When I look at this level - Ah, a store. When Controlled Pairs looks this level - Just from a quick glance at the two parked cars outside we can know that there may be civilians inside, one probably being 5 feet 9 inches tall, with a small dog, maybe chihuahua guessing by the condition and wear of the tires, his mother's maiden name is Mariah and his dad is of 1.9% Brazilian descent...
"What do you think?" -"I think a plan is just a list of things that don't happen". In potential future videos on this game it would be interesting to see the uninterrupted replay playback at the end of the video.
You can plan for branching or conditional changes rather than linear planning. If A then B. But it can be B1, B2 or B3. And B has a threshold of which is met and limit of which it is halted. For example, when deploying snipers they could be in a observation role or shooting role. This is entirely conditional. The emergency commander might set the limits due to other factors. But a branching option might be that if a guaranteed hit opportunity presents itself during an immediate action assault then take it. Or during a deliberate action, a sniper-initiated assault might occur. Some food for thought.
@@ControlledPairsGaming As far as I know, you can only pause or continue and adjust. And the sniper cannot be automated. I was just ranting about how you might plan in your head for actions (situational planning) on rather than the movement plans they have in the game.
Maybe once you’ve finished your round up of the levels you can do some more generic tips and tactics guides to the game. Things like how to use all the different classes effectively, while at the same time explaining how they’re relevant to real life. I think that would be very interesting to watch.
Imagine going over to visit your gun nut friends at their convenience store, and when you leave, you open up the door to find some operator looking dude placing a breach charge.
1:24 That 'living space' looks like a storage area turned makeshift interrogation room, probably a significant part of the reason you're assaulting this random store.
Incredible breakdowns! I bought the game today and struggled with my tactics during breaches into buildings like these especially - your videos are a source of invaluable info, can't wait to see more!
@@ControlledPairsGaming it certainly is! I got into the first few missions of the second campaign, there is definitely much more of a step up - much harder to plan because it gets so chaotic
When this game first came out I was second thinking the game. Well now after knowing in depth of the game I started loving it and love how you empliment war tactics from the past. It's something people miss from the real world to games that some people cannot make things a reality with what they have. But anyways great video and enjoy.
I'll be looking forward to all the Door Kickers episodes. I'm a huge fan of CQB and breaking down possibles approaches. Liking your content a bunch, keep it up!
I had some thoughts on your approach and can't withhold myself from sharing them haha. Cameras are a great tool, but I personally wouldn't use them anymore after having made contact. You've lost the element of surprise, so my instinct tells me to get a move on. At 4:12 one of the unarmed contacts runs outside and some person (can't really say who) yells "They're here". Meaning you've been compromised. Is any unarmed person considered a civilian? I'm a little bit surprised you let the contact run behind your back without paying much attention to it. Of course the threat inside seemed bigger and it still is just a game, but I'm just asking purely out of interest and not trying to judge your methods of approach. 4:50 you called it. It's a huge risk, A reckless or even smart combatant, would've put some rounds through that door and it would've resulted into a casualty. I don't think the game has this feature, but it would be nice if they added something like that down the line. I'm aware that CQB is very dangerous. You could be doing everything perfectly, but still take casualties. At 5:50 you used the camera again and I wasn't expecting you would. You've gained information about the inside of the room, but people can constantly move around. So I'm kind of confused at this approach rather than just busting in as soon as possible. 8:20 beautiful reaction to the barricaded shooter. I was kind of looking forward to you dealing with it, but the shooter got a bit too cocky and ran out of cover. A game mechanic I never really liked is that your mission is finished once all shooters have been taken care of. Leaving some rooms uncleared. I get that from a game standpoint, that's more interesting to most people. But I never like to leave rooms uncleared. I'd like to repeat that I'm in no way trying to judge your approach. I'm merely an enthusiast and am more than happy to learn a thing or two. I have no experience on the field, just in games :) Definitely looking forward to your next videos on this game.
@@fireline2545 I think what you're describing is a crash action or immediate emergency action which is what to do during a contained scene hostage rescue when a trigger point is reached (which is usually to make entry and clear the structure as fast as possible). Also, good point on the mission just ending even with uncleared rooms.
@@ryean1_aus Thanks for the info! Yeah, it's something I noticed during playing the first Door Kickers game. Kind of wish they didn't bring that to the second game. In this case he had the advantage of the targets being pretty much locked inside the building, giving the operators time to advance. But you never know if there are any secret (or even obvious) escape routes. In the end, there's never THE way to clear a building. It all comes down to preference and the safety of the operators should always be high up on the priority list. Just like to discuss these topics to see people's opinions or views on the case. :)
@@fireline2545 "Cameras are a great tool, but I personally wouldn't use them anymore after having made contact. You've lost the element of surprise, so my instinct tells me to get a move on." It's certainly debatable, though I tend to err on the side of using the camera. On the one hand it definitely slows you down and gives the enemy more time to act. On the other hand, you've lost the element of surprise anyways so taking time to set up instead of rushing in can be worth it. Moreover, the enemy has likely moved to actual combat positions rather than where they were originally, and the risk of stumbling into a room full of guns pointed at the door is much greater. It also (as with the initial cameraing) allows you to avoid wasting grenades on empty rooms. If you do use the camera though, it becomes doubly important to post security on the doors. Losing dudes because someone opened the door they were spy camming is... common and annoying. In a way it kind of depends on how the enemy responds - if they seem to be hunkering down, using the cams is helpful, if they're moving to counterattack/execute hostages/flee to the Bahamas/whatever it's counterproductive. As a final note, carrying spy cams means you aren't carrying a different tool. Having only one cam guy for initial observation and then not using it means you can bring more breaching charges or nades or whatever. And of course I'm coming from Door Kickers 1, in which you had silenced guns with which you could clear a room without even alerting the guys next door. "Is any unarmed person considered a civilian? I'm a little bit surprised you let the contact run behind your back without paying much attention to it. Of course the threat inside seemed bigger and it still is just a game, but I'm just asking purely out of interest and not trying to judge your methods of approach." In game, no, any unarmed person is not necessarily considered a civilian, insurgents can start out unarmed and pick up weapons from the environment (or fallen insurgents?). However, you automatically know which targets are civilians and which are hostile somehow. Your soldiers won't shoot at a civilian, even if they get 'surprised' or in other situations that might be ambiguous IRL (such as a guy making a very poorly timed exit from the store) though they _will_ shoot at an enemy behind a civilian, which can end badly. Interestingly in Door Kickers 1 the 'They're Here!" shout didn't actually indicate the enemy as a whole knew about your presence, it just happened the first time an enemy saw you _or_ you shot an enemy (see aforementioned stealth weapons). "the shooter got a bit too cocky and ran out of cover. " Or realized you were going to frag and tried to charge and take out at least one of you? Not sure the AI is actually that smart, but it's plausible both in and out of game. "A game mechanic I never really liked is that your mission is finished once all shooters have been taken care of. Leaving some rooms uncleared. I get that from a game standpoint, that's more interesting to most people. But I never like to leave rooms uncleared." I'm pretty sure the idea is that well, what's going to happen is that you'll clear the remaining rooms and nothing interesting will happen no matter how you play because there is no threat. I guess there's the possibility of accidentally killing a civilian and/or hostage?
God damn this is a gold mine. You explaning the theory behind the strategy and watching you execute it is beyond great content. Im going to have a great day binge watching this series.
I think what I like most about this so far is how quickly you adjust the plan to enemies doing things you didn't expect. Immediately followed up by working on regaining the initiative. It's something I had a concept of, but not actually being trained, had no real idea of what it looked like in a (sort of) realistic depiction.
I played the original to death and was waiting for the 2nd game, just kinda forgot about it! Then today I find your channel and I'm definitely gonna play this game! Thanks!
Just started playing the first door kickers, although some things like lethal nades don't carry over into that, I still found it helpful to watch these videos so Thanks!
a good tactic in this mission is to bring some Stinger non-lethal grenades. when you locate the civilians, throw a couple of Stingers near them and they will flee the building in panic when they blow up. it does not always work though, sometimes, the civs just stays suppressed where they stand, stunned from the Stingers if they land too close to them.
For the situation where friendly fire was of high risk, what tools or methods could you use to make it safe? This map just seems like its of high moral risk all around. This is interesting from an engineering perspective.
In game, as it stood at the time of upload, and still stands at the time of writing this comment? Also ignoring the fact there is an unobstructed window on the North side of the building he could have utilised to deploy handheld devices through? Stand-off, an L-shape, as well as correct positioning of both team members. The guy providing coverage for the guy setting the slap charge should have been on the handle (South) side of the Western door, and the guy placing the charge should have been on the hinge (North) side. That would allow the guy providing coverage the opportunity to stand off about 9 feet at a 30 degree angle to the handle of the door, while putting the breach placing operative in a position where if the door opens, the person providing coverage doesn't have the door's opening obstruct his fire, and the door itself would provide a certain degree of cover for the operative planting the charge. Then IF the door opens, you can fire through the doorway immediately even before the enemy combatant is in the doorway, without the now open door obstructing your fire. The 30 degree angle away from the wall also provides enough of an angle to work with initially, leaves him close enough to the wall to dart into cover if needed, and he can step out even further from the wall to 'earn his shot' if necessary. To clarify, his mistakes were: - Putting the covering troop on the hinge side of the door, - Not providing enough stand-off distance, - Not holding an angle where he could see even 6 inches into the room which allowed an enemy to step through the threshold and position himself directly between the team-members without being exposed to fire, - Putting himself at a 180 degree angle opposite his explosives technician such that if an enemy were to succeed in stepping through the threshold, which they did, you're forced to direct firepower directly towards your own team-mate. Honestly, if over-pen was a thing in DK2, he'd still have committed fratricide here due to high velocity medium calibre rounds at point blank range usually going straight through a person and not magically stopping. In real life? Breaching charge on a long pole pressed to the door past a ballistics-shield operator at the head of the stack would likely be optimal.
im just wondering, since the people inside the store are buying and therefore helping the targets would that make them people who you would need to capture or no? how would you handle them in that kind of event?
CPG, could you analyse my response to this question, and tell me where I'm right and where I'm wrong please? I don't know if you still check comments on videos this old, but I hope so. Ryan Brown asked: For the situation where friendly fire was of high risk, what tools or methods could you use to make it safe? My response: Stand-off, an L-shape, as well as correct positioning of both team members. The guy providing coverage for the guy setting the slap charge should have been on the handle (South) side of the Western door, and the guy placing the charge should have been on the hinge (North) side. That would allow the guy providing coverage the opportunity to stand off about 9 feet at a 30 degree angle to the handle of the door, while putting the breach placing operative in a position where if the door opens, the person providing coverage doesn't have the door's opening obstruct his fire, and the door itself would provide a certain degree of cover for the operative planting the charge. Then IF the door opens, you can fire through the doorway immediately even before the enemy combatant is in the doorway, without the now open door obstructing your fire. The 30 degree angle away from the wall also provides enough of an angle to work with initially, leaves him close enough to the wall to dart into cover if needed, and he can step out even further from the wall to 'earn his shot' if necessary. To clarify, I think your mistakes were: - Putting the covering operator on the hinge side of the door, - Not providing enough stand-off distance, - Not holding an angle where he could see even 6 inches into the room which allowed an enemy to step through the threshold and position himself directly between the team-members without being exposed to fire, - Putting his covering operator at a 180 degree angle opposite his explosives technician such that if an enemy were to succeed in stepping through the threshold, which they did, you're forced to direct firepower directly towards your own team-mate. Honestly, if over-pen was a thing in DK2, you'd still have committed fratricide here due to high velocity medium calibre rounds at point blank range usually going straight through a person and not magically stopping. In real life? My guess is a breaching charge on a long pole pressed to the door past a ballistics-shield operator at the head of the stack would likely be optimal.
Also it's good to see a mixture of tactics such as limiting penetration of large, interconnected rooms before deciding on an entry. And seeing hostages flood out the door at first opportunity and how to handle that. Great content once again.
Good content! I have a suggestion for the game's grenade mechanics. I do not own the game so I guess you guys can give the feedback. I was thinking of a slight ricochet from grenades when it hits the wall? From every Door Kickers 2 gameplay I watched, it seem that it still has not been done by any. Just my thought.
Hey, I wanted to ask if you were ok with me putting this series up in a guide on Steam. I had put it up before thinking, and so I wanted to ask if you want me to make you the owner/a contributor or to take it down. Sorry about that.
@@ControlledPairsGaming Oh, of course! It's still in the "approval" phase but I made sure it's clear that it's yours. Your channel is linked, as well. Thanks for these great vids, I'm hoping more people will be able to get a grasp on CQB. I made a vid on my old TH-cam once, but yours is a million times better in terms of info and presentation, keep it up!
@@ControlledPairsGaming Damn, I'd love to see a video on that. I enjoy your content man. After watching a few of your DoorKicker2 videos and listening to your train of thought regarding CQB. I've applied a lot of what you've said to my own tactics in FPS games and it's been very useful.
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good lord a best time of 9 sec! haha
Lol smart ass
Your videos are incredible, you speak really eloquently, and I'm loving this series so I subscribed, thanks for this!
When I look at this level - Ah, a store.
When Controlled Pairs looks this level - Just from a quick glance at the two parked cars outside we can know that there may be civilians inside, one probably being 5 feet 9 inches tall, with a small dog, maybe chihuahua guessing by the condition and wear of the tires, his mother's maiden name is Mariah and his dad is of 1.9% Brazilian descent...
You see I possess a certain set of skills...
/s
He has very special eyes
"What do you think?" -"I think a plan is just a list of things that don't happen". In potential future videos on this game it would be interesting to see the uninterrupted replay playback at the end of the video.
That feature isn't integrated yet :(
You can plan for branching or conditional changes rather than linear planning. If A then B. But it can be B1, B2 or B3. And B has a threshold of which is met and limit of which it is halted. For example, when deploying snipers they could be in a observation role or shooting role. This is entirely conditional. The emergency commander might set the limits due to other factors. But a branching option might be that if a guaranteed hit opportunity presents itself during an immediate action assault then take it. Or during a deliberate action, a sniper-initiated assault might occur. Some food for thought.
100% is this possible in game?
@@ControlledPairsGaming As far as I know, you can only pause or continue and adjust. And the sniper cannot be automated. I was just ranting about how you might plan in your head for actions (situational planning) on rather than the movement plans they have in the game.
That was a Way of the Gun ref, right? Nice.
just bought this through your store and tipped you a dollar because your commentary is absolutely phenomenal. stellar job, man
Legend. Thank you!
I've been watching all these, and I've played through most of the game already. You're fantastic at teaching and explaining your rationale.
Thank you! More today :)
the poor lady you thought was a bad guy
Lucky gal
Maybe once you’ve finished your round up of the levels you can do some more generic tips and tactics guides to the game. Things like how to use all the different classes effectively, while at the same time explaining how they’re relevant to real life. I think that would be very interesting to watch.
I'll start working that in!
@@ControlledPairsGaming sounds good
Imagine going over to visit your gun nut friends at their convenience store, and when you leave, you open up the door to find some operator looking dude placing a breach charge.
1:24 That 'living space' looks like a storage area turned makeshift interrogation room, probably a significant part of the reason you're assaulting this random store.
Great catch!
You just sold me the game, congratulations.
Enjoy!
I'm watching videos cuz I'm broke still great video
Incredible breakdowns! I bought the game today and struggled with my tactics during breaches into buildings like these especially - your videos are a source of invaluable info, can't wait to see more!
Filmed one tonight... It's getting harder lol.
@@ControlledPairsGaming it certainly is! I got into the first few missions of the second campaign, there is definitely much more of a step up - much harder to plan because it gets so chaotic
I just found this channel from playing door kickers on my tablet. Absolutely love it!
Sweet, welcome!
When this game first came out I was second thinking the game. Well now after knowing in depth of the game I started loving it and love how you empliment war tactics from the past. It's something people miss from the real world to games that some people cannot make things a reality with what they have. But anyways great video and enjoy.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
@@ControlledPairsGaming your welcome man! Have a good day 👌❤
I'll be looking forward to all the Door Kickers episodes. I'm a huge fan of CQB and breaking down possibles approaches. Liking your content a bunch, keep it up!
Thanks man! Appreciate the support.
I had some thoughts on your approach and can't withhold myself from sharing them haha.
Cameras are a great tool, but I personally wouldn't use them anymore after having made contact. You've lost the element of surprise, so my instinct tells me to get a move on.
At 4:12 one of the unarmed contacts runs outside and some person (can't really say who) yells "They're here". Meaning you've been compromised.
Is any unarmed person considered a civilian? I'm a little bit surprised you let the contact run behind your back without paying much attention to it.
Of course the threat inside seemed bigger and it still is just a game, but I'm just asking purely out of interest and not trying to judge your methods of approach.
4:50 you called it. It's a huge risk, A reckless or even smart combatant, would've put some rounds through that door and it would've resulted into a casualty.
I don't think the game has this feature, but it would be nice if they added something like that down the line.
I'm aware that CQB is very dangerous. You could be doing everything perfectly, but still take casualties.
At 5:50 you used the camera again and I wasn't expecting you would. You've gained information about the inside of the room, but people can constantly move around. So I'm kind of confused at this approach rather than just busting in as soon as possible.
8:20 beautiful reaction to the barricaded shooter. I was kind of looking forward to you dealing with it, but the shooter got a bit too cocky and ran out of cover.
A game mechanic I never really liked is that your mission is finished once all shooters have been taken care of. Leaving some rooms uncleared. I get that from a game standpoint, that's more interesting to most people. But I never like to leave rooms uncleared.
I'd like to repeat that I'm in no way trying to judge your approach. I'm merely an enthusiast and am more than happy to learn a thing or two. I have no experience on the field, just in games :)
Definitely looking forward to your next videos on this game.
@@fireline2545 I think what you're describing is a crash action or immediate emergency action which is what to do during a contained scene hostage rescue when a trigger point is reached (which is usually to make entry and clear the structure as fast as possible). Also, good point on the mission just ending even with uncleared rooms.
@@ryean1_aus Thanks for the info!
Yeah, it's something I noticed during playing the first Door Kickers game. Kind of wish they didn't bring that to the second game.
In this case he had the advantage of the targets being pretty much locked inside the building, giving the operators time to advance.
But you never know if there are any secret (or even obvious) escape routes.
In the end, there's never THE way to clear a building.
It all comes down to preference and the safety of the operators should always be high up on the priority list.
Just like to discuss these topics to see people's opinions or views on the case. :)
@@fireline2545 "Cameras are a great tool, but I personally wouldn't use them anymore after having made contact. You've lost the element of surprise, so my instinct tells me to get a move on."
It's certainly debatable, though I tend to err on the side of using the camera. On the one hand it definitely slows you down and gives the enemy more time to act. On the other hand, you've lost the element of surprise anyways so taking time to set up instead of rushing in can be worth it. Moreover, the enemy has likely moved to actual combat positions rather than where they were originally, and the risk of stumbling into a room full of guns pointed at the door is much greater. It also (as with the initial cameraing) allows you to avoid wasting grenades on empty rooms.
If you do use the camera though, it becomes doubly important to post security on the doors. Losing dudes because someone opened the door they were spy camming is... common and annoying. In a way it kind of depends on how the enemy responds - if they seem to be hunkering down, using the cams is helpful, if they're moving to counterattack/execute hostages/flee to the Bahamas/whatever it's counterproductive.
As a final note, carrying spy cams means you aren't carrying a different tool. Having only one cam guy for initial observation and then not using it means you can bring more breaching charges or nades or whatever. And of course I'm coming from Door Kickers 1, in which you had silenced guns with which you could clear a room without even alerting the guys next door.
"Is any unarmed person considered a civilian? I'm a little bit surprised you let the contact run behind your back without paying much attention to it. Of course the threat inside seemed bigger and it still is just a game, but I'm just asking purely out of interest and not trying to judge your methods of approach."
In game, no, any unarmed person is not necessarily considered a civilian, insurgents can start out unarmed and pick up weapons from the environment (or fallen insurgents?). However, you automatically know which targets are civilians and which are hostile somehow. Your soldiers won't shoot at a civilian, even if they get 'surprised' or in other situations that might be ambiguous IRL (such as a guy making a very poorly timed exit from the store) though they _will_ shoot at an enemy behind a civilian, which can end badly.
Interestingly in Door Kickers 1 the 'They're Here!" shout didn't actually indicate the enemy as a whole knew about your presence, it just happened the first time an enemy saw you _or_ you shot an enemy (see aforementioned stealth weapons).
"the shooter got a bit too cocky and ran out of cover. "
Or realized you were going to frag and tried to charge and take out at least one of you? Not sure the AI is actually that smart, but it's plausible both in and out of game.
"A game mechanic I never really liked is that your mission is finished once all shooters have been taken care of. Leaving some rooms uncleared. I get that from a game standpoint, that's more interesting to most people. But I never like to leave rooms uncleared."
I'm pretty sure the idea is that well, what's going to happen is that you'll clear the remaining rooms and nothing interesting will happen no matter how you play because there is no threat. I guess there's the possibility of accidentally killing a civilian and/or hostage?
God damn this is a gold mine. You explaning the theory behind the strategy and watching you execute it is beyond great content. Im going to have a great day binge watching this series.
Really cool! Sorry your team was busted by an exiting civ but the execution was near flawless! Can't wait for more.
I think what I like most about this so far is how quickly you adjust the plan to enemies doing things you didn't expect. Immediately followed up by working on regaining the initiative. It's something I had a concept of, but not actually being trained, had no real idea of what it looked like in a (sort of) realistic depiction.
Loving these videos, hope you'll start showing a full speed replay at the end to show it all go down in real time.
Not a feature in the game yet, but as soon as it is!
@@ControlledPairsGaming Isn't there a replay button on the mission complete page? Or is that just a placeholder and it's not implemented yet?
I played the original to death and was waiting for the 2nd game, just kinda forgot about it! Then today I find your channel and I'm definitely gonna play this game! Thanks!
Of course! Enjoy!
Just started playing the first door kickers, although some things like lethal nades don't carry over into that, I still found it helpful to watch these videos so Thanks!
No problem, thanks!
loving your content!
please consider playing the cinematic video at the end, it only takes a minute and it rounds the whole thing off so well
This video is older than that feature.
i love when you flashed with Alpha then entered whit Bravo
Just got this game and tried it myself, listening to you talk about how to do it really put my running and gunning to shame.
5:37 and here we have our tactical watermelons coming into play
Not the melons D:
Found the channel yesterday. Absolutely love it man 👌🏼
Awesome, thank you!
7:55 That's so smooth!
a good tactic in this mission is to bring some Stinger non-lethal grenades.
when you locate the civilians, throw a couple of Stingers near them and they will flee the building in panic when they blow up.
it does not always work though, sometimes, the civs just stays suppressed where they stand, stunned from the Stingers if they land too close to them.
Found your channel today. Would love to see how real tactics apply in other games like escape from tarkov
really enjoy this series
Thanks!
For the situation where friendly fire was of high risk, what tools or methods could you use to make it safe? This map just seems like its of high moral risk all around. This is interesting from an engineering perspective.
In game, as it stood at the time of upload, and still stands at the time of writing this comment? Also ignoring the fact there is an unobstructed window on the North side of the building he could have utilised to deploy handheld devices through?
Stand-off, an L-shape, as well as correct positioning of both team members.
The guy providing coverage for the guy setting the slap charge should have been on the handle (South) side of the Western door, and the guy placing the charge should have been on the hinge (North) side. That would allow the guy providing coverage the opportunity to stand off about 9 feet at a 30 degree angle to the handle of the door, while putting the breach placing operative in a position where if the door opens, the person providing coverage doesn't have the door's opening obstruct his fire, and the door itself would provide a certain degree of cover for the operative planting the charge. Then IF the door opens, you can fire through the doorway immediately even before the enemy combatant is in the doorway, without the now open door obstructing your fire. The 30 degree angle away from the wall also provides enough of an angle to work with initially, leaves him close enough to the wall to dart into cover if needed, and he can step out even further from the wall to 'earn his shot' if necessary.
To clarify, his mistakes were:
- Putting the covering troop on the hinge side of the door,
- Not providing enough stand-off distance,
- Not holding an angle where he could see even 6 inches into the room which allowed an enemy to step through the threshold and position himself directly between the team-members without being exposed to fire,
- Putting himself at a 180 degree angle opposite his explosives technician such that if an enemy were to succeed in stepping through the threshold, which they did, you're forced to direct firepower directly towards your own team-mate.
Honestly, if over-pen was a thing in DK2, he'd still have committed fratricide here due to high velocity medium calibre rounds at point blank range usually going straight through a person and not magically stopping.
In real life? Breaching charge on a long pole pressed to the door past a ballistics-shield operator at the head of the stack would likely be optimal.
These are pretty interesting. Keep em coming man
Thank you!
I've been waiting for a channel like this
With this mission, I sent a sniper to the top window killing 2 Hostiles and watching a third surrender and learning that hostiles can surrender.
This is much more entertaining than Sadar City in 05.
Lol true
Amazing breakdown I subbed
Appreciate it!
Hey man. Good job with the video. Keep it up! :)
im just wondering, since the people inside the store are buying and therefore helping the targets would that make them people who you would need to capture or no? how would you handle them in that kind of event?
CPG, could you analyse my response to this question, and tell me where I'm right and where I'm wrong please? I don't know if you still check comments on videos this old, but I hope so.
Ryan Brown asked: For the situation where friendly fire was of high risk, what tools or methods could you use to make it safe?
My response:
Stand-off, an L-shape, as well as correct positioning of both team members.
The guy providing coverage for the guy setting the slap charge should have been on the handle (South) side of the Western door, and the guy placing the charge should have been on the hinge (North) side. That would allow the guy providing coverage the opportunity to stand off about 9 feet at a 30 degree angle to the handle of the door, while putting the breach placing operative in a position where if the door opens, the person providing coverage doesn't have the door's opening obstruct his fire, and the door itself would provide a certain degree of cover for the operative planting the charge. Then IF the door opens, you can fire through the doorway immediately even before the enemy combatant is in the doorway, without the now open door obstructing your fire. The 30 degree angle away from the wall also provides enough of an angle to work with initially, leaves him close enough to the wall to dart into cover if needed, and he can step out even further from the wall to 'earn his shot' if necessary.
To clarify, I think your mistakes were:
- Putting the covering operator on the hinge side of the door,
- Not providing enough stand-off distance,
- Not holding an angle where he could see even 6 inches into the room which allowed an enemy to step through the threshold and position himself directly between the team-members without being exposed to fire,
- Putting his covering operator at a 180 degree angle opposite his explosives technician such that if an enemy were to succeed in stepping through the threshold, which they did, you're forced to direct firepower directly towards your own team-mate.
Honestly, if over-pen was a thing in DK2, you'd still have committed fratricide here due to high velocity medium calibre rounds at point blank range usually going straight through a person and not magically stopping.
In real life? My guess is a breaching charge on a long pole pressed to the door past a ballistics-shield operator at the head of the stack would likely be optimal.
I'm getting 2015 hypercacher raid vibes.
Also it's good to see a mixture of tactics such as limiting penetration of large, interconnected rooms before deciding on an entry. And seeing hostages flood out the door at first opportunity and how to handle that. Great content once again.
Really appreciate the feedback!
"...combatants or people...." lol
Training works lol
God I love these
Thanks for watching!
Good content! I have a suggestion for the game's grenade mechanics. I do not own the game so I guess you guys can give the feedback. I was thinking of a slight ricochet from grenades when it hits the wall? From every Door Kickers 2 gameplay I watched, it seem that it still has not been done by any. Just my thought.
Amazing video again
Hey, I wanted to ask if you were ok with me putting this series up in a guide on Steam. I had put it up before thinking, and so I wanted to ask if you want me to make you the owner/a contributor or to take it down. Sorry about that.
You're welcome to share wherever, man. Just give credit as appropriate. 🤙
@@ControlledPairsGaming Oh, of course! It's still in the "approval" phase but I made sure it's clear that it's yours. Your channel is linked, as well. Thanks for these great vids, I'm hoping more people will be able to get a grasp on CQB. I made a vid on my old TH-cam once, but yours is a million times better in terms of info and presentation, keep it up!
Appreciate it!
Awesome work
Sorry, what is the "L" that you often mention?
These videos are dope
Best time: 9 seconds
pew
Got it down to 5 seconds yesterday. The tactics were completely unrealistic though (sprinting through fire to the back room while a buddy covers him).
@@MisterExon Went full COD on them.
How is your best time 9 seconds? Holy crap!
It was.... Dynamic. Lol.
@@ControlledPairsGaming Damn, I'd love to see a video on that. I enjoy your content man. After watching a few of your DoorKicker2 videos and listening to your train of thought regarding CQB. I've applied a lot of what you've said to my own tactics in FPS games and it's been very useful.
When will this game come to Android play store just like door kickers
Not sure yet
Thanks for the video
I believe you could have detained the one civilian that fled by you
Good call!
This is sooo cooool
So good
Thanks man
It conveniently seems that enemies in these games, they don't station guards outside.
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"the breach"... fuck sake, just say door when it's a door.
Must be new here, aye Son? We try hard. We sweat when we sim. We operate from keyboards. We sound cool af. See me at the airsoft field fam.
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The game is pretty expensive. I expected 10 euros or something, but this is close to 20... I will stick to watching you.
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