Charles Edward Stewart (Stuart) Last of the Stewart Kings You Didn't Know
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- Charles Edward Stewart, or should it be Charles Edward Stuart. Was he the last of Stewart kings? Scottish history tour guide Bruce Fummey tells a tales from the post Jacobite Rebellion life of Jacobite prince then king, Bonnie Prince Charlie. He's the Charles Edward Stewart (Stuart) you've heard of from Culloden. What about the one you haven't.
With an exclusive visit to Bannockburn House Bruce tells the tale in the house where Bonnie Prince Charlie stayed during the siege of Stirling Castle and the Battle of Falkirk. The start of a love affair, which led to an heir.
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What are you notickng?
Sound~wise I mean
What is your physical evidence? My evidence is quite clear Bonnie Prince Charlie had his real family in America. Vatican Archives can fill in the truth. Including where Charlie ended up dead trying to pay a loan in 1888. As evidencedy his monument at tha Basilica.
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Didn't know he lived to the ripe old age of 167.
I've got to say I love your videos there educational and yet you make them funny at times which keeps me hooked.. plus I love learning more about Scottish history as not hear a few of the stories you have made videos about.. watched your video about the Glencoe massacre and the other clans who where all involved in that dark part of history and I was told that story myself by my grandad who got told about it by his dad and grandad.. keep up the good work..
“…Man flu…” 😂😂😂😂😂
I already despised him, but this video took it to another level. I am consistently enthralled by the resilience of Scottish women in history. Thank you Bruce 🙌
Brilliant! You had me wondering here about Saint Peter's Basilica in Rome as a final resting place. But the twists and turns of ancestry make Dunkeld a much better place to follow the dynasty.
Aye the tenterhooks were just aboot haudin ye up
Aye but his grandad is buried in ………..the Basilica you mention.
One of the most ironic, and touching of stories, Bruce. If I remember Bonnie Prince Charlie sounded more French, and the clans, though Jacobites, were a bit confused regarding the French man in front of them. It was the rich French-Irish slave traders of St Malo, descendants of the Irish rebels of 1690, that brought him to Scotland and financed his campaign. They also stole him out of the country. His father, King James. left England on a French-Irish ship.
Grandpa was 1st born American, his parents were from Edinburgh & Orkney (don’t judge). When I was a small child, he would tell stories of fairies, trolls and such. Some words he said, had a faint Scots accent. I hadn’t thought of those stories in decades. Growing up Mom made mince & tatties. I didn’t know it had a name until I was grown. I make it now, it is comfort food, makes me feel closer to my mom. Mom has a huge sweet tooth, she would hide the Tablet she made from us kids. Thank you for the memories and history.
Now, we come to the meat of the matter...
People disregard Charles Edward Stuart having been fit to rule - not just Scotland, but all _three_ kingdoms, including Ireland as separate states in _personal_ union.
Others remember, however that Charles Edward expressed regret, later to have lead people into the battle of Culloden, a confrontation, he was trained for - and the Jacobites were actually equipped for with e.g. muskets (apart from the lack of cavalry), too - but all came about _too late_ as Williamite troops already returned from the continent - while all depended on taking London and it's 'fiscal-military state' in a raid - and with popular support by _'English_ Jacobites'.
That was the _one_ task, he was born and raised for as the grandson of James the VII/II. - unlike his brother in the 'cloth' who had a established social role.
It's easy to judge a person who is psychologically _broken_ by events - or to side with female accounts of 'being wronged', 'out of principle' so to speak, despite e.g. Louise of Stolberg-Gedern complained about abuse _after_ having had an affair with Vittoria Alfieri - or recently, as if Meghan Markle married Harry due to his outstanding personality, instead of his royal 'brand'.
On the upside, You mentioned *the Jacobite linneage of Ferdinand Maximilien Mériadec de Rohan - the **_brother-in-law_** to Charles Edward's **_cousin_** , Marie Louise de La Tour d'Auvergne who Charles left for Clementina Walkinshaw* , an 'illegitimate' linneage then, but which may become relevant, _sometimes_ - the 'otherwordly ball of thread' of the historical process, like in all 'stories of old'...
Another reason to visit Dunkeld, if nothing else.
Bruce you never cease to amaze me. You have got the knack for blending humor and truth. Beautiful job
I try
Having left Scotland when I was 3, I have no accent myself (although I was occasionally asked if my parents spoke any english), but I LOVE listening to you speak. Thank...I laughed out loud when you said, "...no me."
I grew up in Wales and I moved to the states when I was 9 I miss my accent so much
My Dad spent many years growing up in Dunkeld he has very fond memories of it, but he did not know about this story until I found it by accident one night at work (don’t judge menial job paid well not much to do for 10 hours) and let him know. Now I can actually show him something on it Thanks Bruce 👍 If u make it to Cairns one day 🇦🇺 I’ll buy u a beer 🍻
Brilliant Bruce, Thanks for a fascinating History Tour.
thanks for a warmung Birthday Presentation.
Blink and you'll miss Bannockburn house, nestled down low next to the M9. Grew up a mile from it and didn't even know it was called that until the publicised trouble of getting the people out who had been "looking after" it for years so that the restoration could be started.
Bruce, you help me so much with my research for my job as a tour leader in Scotland, thanks so much!
training the opposition😂
really enjoy your works . One thing about supporting Prince Charles is that as my mothers family {clanranald} would say it was never about he but about the crown which is why they supported him
“Idols with feet of clay.” Thanks for educating with seldom known bits of history.
You're welcome
We visited Bannockburn on our way home, there was a great presentation in the wee building.
This was very interesting.
Thanks, never a moment wasted watching your videos.
Thank you Bruce, absolutely fascinating and SO educational. It is an absolute pleasure to listen and watch every time your programs. So "Bonnie Prince Charlie" wasnae so Bonnie after all!
I've met nicer blokes
Love all your history lessons Bruce, but in this case you've excelled yourself!
Thank you kindly
Simply Fasinating! Wow!. Thx for the Story, love them
Great story! My left ear enjoyed it very much.
The romance and the truth are two different things ? well put together.... thanks Bruce...best wishes to all
Spot on. Excellent vid buddy
I never had high opinion of The bonny Prince... To start a fight and run.... Leaving his men to take the beat
"When ye're the true prince, and a proper Charlie..." 🤣
Alas, American English has no equivalent for that epithet.
Well they should get one. I can't hang about waiting😜
We could exert that famous to the point of stereotype Yankee ingenuity to coining one... how about "stumblef&ck?"
That was great!!!!
Delighted you enjoyed it
Great video, would love to visit the property shown as I've never heard of it...👍🏴
It’s a beautiful house, hope one day u can visit us
Ooo - pleasantly surprised to hear Banish Misfortune
Well.. unfortunately I'm currently touring Colditz Castle. It has links to Lieutenant Colonel Sir Archibald David Stirling who founded the SAS and was born in Perthshire. Braw tour.
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The word: Legend is bandied about far too easily these days.
But Bruce, you truly are. Cheers man.
Love watching your videos very amusing thanks for sharing. Would you consider doing videos of the clans of the jacobite army you can start with the Cameron's if you like
Jeez, that's not a 10 minute video, that's several videos. Maybe in the future, but you have to remember that there are lots of other areas of our history I'm trying to fit in as well. Can you send me an email at requests@scotlandhistorytours.co.uk and then I'll have your suggestion with the rest?
Would make a good modern soap opera. Will have to watch again to follow the twists and turns. Never understood not supporting a child.
Aye, true
Fascinating 😶
Nice music.
What a fantastic story
I thought it was sad
@@ScotlandHistoryTours totally, so much for a Bonnie Prince.......
History, warts and all.
There's so much romanticism around the Stewart's and Jacobites, it's difficult to get the real history.
This is certainly an eye opener
My mother's Scottish family was loyal to the British crown even though they were from the Highlands. They fought in the Scottish regiments they helped form and put down the Jacobites once, and for all😊👍🏻
And you are proud of that?
Come on Bruce I’m nearly gretting 🥲
Fantastic stuff, one hopes the Scots have the balls to grab their destiny and ascend to what they once had; a sovereign independent nation....
I'm afraid its all over. We are ruled by a moronic woman and don't even have free speech. All the real men were sent away to the new world and have forgoten who they are.
Ho-boy, I hear an echo of Gaberlunzie in this post.
That will be the day
Always wondered what happened after the flight from Culloden
He ran a chippy in Glasgow
@@ScotlandHistoryTours hopefully not pizza crolla on Buchanan Street
I'm not at liberty to say
The Stewart must be a huge family. Because most of the American Scott's I meet are related to them . Lol.
To be fair, it depends on how far back in history that relation goes - if it's far enough, the descendants would indeed be many.
Or it could be like my own family where some of my ancestors share their surname with a Czech medieval noble family and great-uncle thought we were related, but there's no relation, it's just a name that's not all that rare.
All teachers should aspire to teach as you do...brilliant...l was married to a French lady for many years..lived there..they never quite got why lm so proud to be Scottish....its not the notable figures....its the people...plenty arse/hs but so many more brilliant ,decent ,and above all funny..,human beings. That humour has carried us through everything....recent history from thatcher to blob johnson
Legend.
I'm just a Buffalo Scotsman, dreadlock haggis. Now that tune is lodged in my head ya numpty.
I didnae do that. That must've been somebody closer tae your hoose
@@ScotlandHistoryTours Your comment set me off.
Ah yes, now I remember. Sorry, it's such a long time since I made this. I don't always remember the daft comments I make along the way
We are occasionally open to the public
amazing eyeopener although I was never a Charlie fan this confirms to me what I suspected..shared with a request for folk to subsctibe on my group page.
Good man. I look forward to the subs rolling in. This time next year we'll be millionaires
its not quite the end of the Stewart story thou as Diana princess of wales was a direct descendant of both Charles the second and James the second meaning when William becomes king he will be the first true British monarch to sit on the throne since 1714. but hopefully it will be thrones by the time he becomes king
I would love to know what happened to Charlotte’s daughters. You talked about her son, however what happened to her daughter’s? Is there still a Stewart blood line?
Some argue so
@@ScotlandHistoryToursyou ever studied the Breingans and their link to the Stewart’s ? 🧐
See when his carriage overturned, was the accident caused by someone behind a grassy knoll??
No, but he was wearing a white polka dot dress
Can you make a video on lady margaret fleming duchess of albany lady in waiting to Queen Mary of Scotland and her husband Robert (Graham) Graham Master of Graham. They’re my 13th grandparents. I live in America and I appreciate your videos explaining history.
Folks ask me to cover their family every day. I can't promise I'll get round to but a fraction of them
@@ScotlandHistoryTours it’s okay I understand. I have done my own research on these individuals. I just love the way you story-tell lol 😆
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The Stuarts really had no more claim to legitimacy than the Hanoverians: they came to power via the Tudors, who's own legitimacy, and connection to the Plantagenets was pretty tenuous. Far more tenuous than George I, Elector of Hanover, who was no less the grandson of James I than James III. So technically, none of them should have been there, but, I guess there were no Protestant Yorks or Lancasters deemed fit? Oh, and did you find it interesting that Charles, Prince of Wales (a more-or-less Hanoverian) chose "Charles III" as his regnal name instead of the traditional Hanover/SC&G/Windsor "George VII" or "Edward IX"?
Bonnie Prince Charlie buried in The Vatican , his tomb thee!
i, Are there chunks of audio missing for anyone else or just me?
It might be one channel is missing if you're using earphones
Sir, you aught to do a story on Robert Rodgers, son of Ulster Scottish born in the colonies and died in England after the Revolution.
You mean rebellion 😜 Do you want to drop me an email at requests@scotlandhistorytours.co.uk so I have your suggestion in one place with the others
@@ScotlandHistoryTours I sent a email.
You said CES had a carriage accident crossing the border, this reminds be of another accident of a Stuart descendent in Paris in the 20th century. Was it an accident. The Hanover branch of this family are still fearful of this glamorous Scots.
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Do , he wasn't very Bonnie ! Always thought he was
a traitor ....the Act of Union signed just 38 years earlier .
Seems he was also not a good man
My mama is A Stewart we have DNA 🧬 to the Bonnie Prince Charlie!
Yawn!
Who on here hasn't?
@@glennmeade2390 I'm pretty sure I don't, I'm Czech. :D
But Tonya certainly did not pick a good video to brag about hers...
It would make one wonder where his two sisters ended up and if they had any issue? I know there are claims and counterclaims, just makes one think ….did dear old Henry (who for many years had his portrait mistaken for his elder brother) maybe do a wee bit of meddling and forcing signatures/making things disappear, just so he could inherit his “claim” as such. He was after all a Cardinal and well wouldn’t be the first time the church or churchmen did a wee bit of meddling in Scots affairs 😂😂😂
A good vid as they all are.
Bruce, What happened to the two girls?
Hmmmm, more digging required
@@ScotlandHistoryTours Acht, am sorry
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlotte_Stuart,_Duchess_of_Albany. Such information as there seems to be.
@@edithengel2284 Thanks 👍 I've read that already. I wish there was more.
@@waynekerrgoodstyle Me, too. I hope they had happier lives than their mother and grandmother.
I’m American for hundreds of years. Well not personally that long myself. I find it ironic that both Charlie and the Confederate President Jefferson Davis were wearing women’s clothing to try and get away. Charlie pulled it off but Davis got captured by Union Forces. Both served lost causes which caused great suffering for regular people like my own
Stuart is from France, they don't have a w in their alphabet.
What is that last little bit you say in all your videos? Im American, and have no idea what you are saying friend.
Because people have asked this I've had T-shirts andmugs made. You'll get a translation on the product page in my shop at www.scotlandhistorytours.co.uk/shop even if you don't buy
@@ScotlandHistoryTours a capitalist!! I love it. Haha i will check out your store now friend.
Johnny
I know I'm late and many, MANY, will disagree with me, but this does not change my positive opinion on the Bonnie Prince. All it does is sadden me. It seems to me a depressing case of a man broken by heavy burdens and expectations, then the failures. It does not excuse the behavior, but I try to empathetic.
HRH C E Stuart was before his time - He wanted to battle with Wade's Army but No - Murray's Deal I'll let you go into England thou - IF a battle had been Fought and won by Charles men ( And who was left of the " Rebel Commanders ) which he should have instead
BPC's character sometimes seems as big a what-if as his cause. The bitterness of failure turned him into a monster there was no sign of in his youth. Would success have averted that? Or would the corruption of power have had a similar or worse effect?
Oooft, a question for the ages
Charles Edward stuart Ron was likely to have your skin colour as his grandparents were swarthy looking
I was born a Patterson
I didn't have a high opinion of him to begin with......
That's ok ,I dinny have a high regard for him anyway.
Why doesn't any of this surprise me, I always had a feeling that the bonny prince was just a tosser.
Tosser sounds about right
What happened to Charlotte‘s daughters? Bugs me that only the males lineage is followed.
Them were the times. I have some stories of great Scottish women as well, honest th-cam.com/video/t7uM297N8D0/w-d-xo.html
The Scottish Lairds were never careful of their daughters in warning them that the kings and Lairds were not great bets as marrying men. Mary QoS thirs husband was an example.
(21.6k subscribers!) Turns out Bonnie Prince Charlie was a bit o' a tosser, no?
Let's not forget his link to slavery.
"Man Flu" :D :D :D
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Who'll go and fight or care for Charlie?
Not me either. And after this video, I think of my own ancestors who followed Bonnie Prince Charlie into Culloden - for Honour. What ironic, idealistic stupidity.
I’m American and it kills me when Americans somehow join on the Not So Bonnie Charlie Train. In truth Chuckie was as big a sphincter as King George. The only Train that worked was called The American Revolution !
With a French train driver!
It occurs to me that as a Revolution it was rather incomplete (which consolidated its success), but as a Rebellion it was successful. Hence respectable. Not to mention comprehensive.
My people supported this guy, pretty ad decision tbh. Still cool though
Not wearing a string semmit under that posh blouse is a bit distracting but enjoying your work otherwise.