Wish I could go to Scotland and take one of your tours! I enjoy watching your unique way of telling the history of Scotland Alas, I will have to content myself with your videos since I am of advanced age and have health issues. (Clan Tailyour, here)
I subscribe to this channel because I am an old amateur historian and because this is a superb channel. Over my long life, I have seen and read of a great deal of blame for the troubles of the world assigned to old John Bull. With accumulation of knowledge and maturity, I am come to the verdict that the greatest oppressors of Scotland and Ireland were the very same that were the greatest oppressors of England. They were ignorance, cruelty, filth, poverty, greed, and ultra-violence.
I think the history between England & Scotland has to be the most interesting and turbulent history there is anywhere in the world..our two nationalities are so intertwined and complex than we can ever imagine it's almost impossible to piece it all together and make proper sense of it all..
Nearly as I can discern, most people could not make much sense of it all back then. Most of them might have thought they could make some sense of some of it. It seems to me that a lot of very mean and dumb things got done or were attempted back then. I have also heard that Scottish children in modern times are, more often than not, shocked and saddened to learn of the cruelty and violence of their ancestors.
Side note about the windows on the gothic and neogothic buildings in Scotland (mainly churches, but you see them elsewhere). In most of Europe and even England, the windows are rose windows. But in Scotland... most of them are thistle windows. It's like a big "up yours" to those Welsh and English roses in the language of architecture and it's so very Scottish.
@ alethearia Hmm ... I wonder if the "rose" windows in Wales have a daffodil in the center? Daffodils were brought to Wales by the Romans. The Welsh name for the daffodil is: "Cennin Pedr", it means "Head of Saint Peter".
Like everywhere else Scotland isn't a homogeneous population. Folks are interested in history. My gut feeling is that we tend to be more interested in events and narrative, but you guys are obsessed with clans and family history in a way that we aren't
Perhaps, more and more as Scotland is moving towards yet another time in her of history of independence, then yes, at this point I would say for sure more of us, and I’m a dual Scot/Canadian, are more interested in our history now, which was in many instances denied us in school. Channels like this one are important so our historical past is remembered and accurately documented and the way Bruce presents each of his ‘stories’ does just that.
Agree with what Bruce says, but in the same token there are many of us Scots interested in our History, it is just some more than others. Some Scots may be interested for different reasons, political, family stuff and the fact we have seen oor native Gaelic tongue die out. Only 1% of us Scots can speak and understand Scottish Gaelic anymore, some are trying tae learn tae save it, no tae mention Scots an aw, and that is the attempt, different when ye are spraffing it! 😂
@@roddymcniven8734 I ask because my grandad was born in Dunoon, and I've always been interested in our family history, but I've seen many on the Scottish FB feeds who seem almost disdainful of their American "cousins" for asking questions...
Cracking videos mate, I’ve been subbed for a while and honestly some of the places you’ve taken us too… Scotland’s just unreal for it’s scenery! I hadn’t the foggiest until you took us to these places, so much appreciated! I was wondering, from your readings, travels, etc. Do you think the independence debate today is shaped more by a historical anti-English sentiment, or rather one of anti-Westminster? I’d much appreciate a social history if you could find some primary sources. Such as what the common scot thought throughout time, rather than it’s rulers. Keep up the good work!
Just discovered your channel this week and already watched a gid wee bunch of them man. I love the way you tell each wee tale with a bit of character. I'm by no means anywhere near a history guru like yourself, but I feel I’m one of the few in my generation of Scots interested in the complexity of our history. Not interested in party politics in the slightest (some people can’t see the forest for the trees), but I voted for independence and will vote that way again if I think the means justifies the ends. Never out of bitterness for our English brothers and sisters (we've all fallen victim to the politics of greed and family feuds before), but out of hope. For the ability to be an autonomous nation that has a tangible say in it's future before the memory of the nation itself is forgotten. I’m opposed to being told what part we’ll play in the future of our historical identity, and feeling like a trophy horse in the most subconscious, but very living definition of the colony we’ve become today; the recognition of which though almost lost and forgotten in the amnestic mists of time and through a lack of basic academic education, I believe to be self-evident …seemingly set in stone within the collective mind of contemporary Scotland, by some that still consider us fools being provided board in the “Scottish Estate”, the part of which is played perfectly today by generations of Scots with a lack of good old fashioned national identity.
As someone who has Scottish ancestors. But live on the English side of the Welsh border. I would tell any Scot to vote for independence. If I had my way the Kingdom of the Marches would also vote for independence from the bunch of (add word of choice here) in London. They they do not care for nowt but themselves.
Mind you Friend, was Born Henderson, I depo it many years ago to it’s Celtic name. So I have both today and Proud. Ps they both mean same am told out of history books. 🏴🍺✌️😇🥃🇬🇧
Its a good headline for a you tube vid, but was bound to be contentious.Scotland isnt a colony and is of course already free. Hume, Burns etc all considered themselves as such, as did the hundreds of thousands of Scots who served proudly and with honour in the Kingdom of Great Britains armed forces.I really enjoy the way you present these and you deserve a much wider audience, subbed👍
Yes titles are intended to spark interest, Yes key enlightenment characters saw themselves as North Britons. Yes most military folk naturally see themselves as British, but there's no doubt we're a colony. Some folk are happy being a colony and that's OK. Others aren't. As I say the relationships between large and small neighbours is a complex issue throughout the world
@@ScotlandHistoryTours I think calling Scotland a colony doesnt stand up to even the slightest scrutiny.The Kingdom of Great Britain was a colonial power, with Scots at the absolute forefront in every capacity, militarily,administratively and politically. You do those places colonised a diservice by, in anyway ,suggesting Scotland itself is a victim of colonialism. Its simply wrong.
@@ScotlandHistoryTours Ofc its ok to disagree. Maybe put a video together outlining how Scotland is infact a colony and not an ex coloniser. It would really put the cat amongst the pigeons😀
We can always look at it this way too. Considering the England and Scotland or all part of one landmass, that makes all of Scott in the Highlands and all of England the lowlands.
Longshanks to De Bruce” get the locals to fight for you using patriotism or something,and you could get yourself a nice wee kingdom. Always works,always will work., at little cost to yourself. Go for it.
Translation is.on the product page.in my shop at www.scotlandhistorytours.co.uk/shop You don't have to buy anything to get the translation, but you do have to go to the shop 😜
How did you feel about Cameron blocking the release of a TV show (Outlander)? Does England truly fear an independent Scotland? How about a united Ireland ?
With Scottish independence comes the question how does Scotland protect its borders and coastline. The Scottish navy ? The Scottish Airforce ? The ScottishArmy ? What will the currency be tied to, The Euro or the pound ? Will Scotland be financially secure before the offshore gas and oil run out ? Brexit was Britains blunder, will Independence be Scotlands ?
What wars would Scotland be involved in if it was for governments we don’t elect a head of state born south our fianance ran in London along with our taxes the uk is about to fall apart if Scotland does grow up and take responsibility and accountability for itself we will sink with it , brexit was English independence
Jim, I feel you are simply trolling as the questions you have asked have been answered time and time again, so by this stage, you haven't looked, or you dont want to know? By your blatant slant and bias, Im pretty sure I know what the answer is. The solution will not be found, however, in a youtube comments section. So please keep your trolling out of this.
Thanks for the video Bruce. The idea that Scotland is subservient to England now reminds me of the idea that the UK was subservient to Brussels until Brexit and now isn't. (And the arguments used in the run-up to Brexit seemed to have a strong similarity to the arguments used in favour of Scottish independence prior to the referendum on Scottish independence.) Is Scotland more subservient to 'England' than say Newcastle or Reading are, or they all just run by (and for the benefit of) London? Thanks.
The situation vis à vis UK and Brussels is completely different from Scotland and UK. In some ways Yorkshire, Northumberland or Cornwall have similar problems to Scotland. I suppose the difference is that they were subsumed by conquest hundreds of years before Scotland was subsumed, and accept being English
@@ScotlandHistoryTours Thanks for the reply Bruce :) I just think that in both cases, some of the pro-independence reasons give were/are "laws made by people that we didn't vote for" and "huge amounts of money draining from here to there".
They do sound like the kind of thing you'd hear from BREXITEERS. I just don't recall that being the argument in Scotland. In fact the very opposite. We were (and are) continually told that we're being subsidised by the English. Now that doesn't stand up to scrutiny, but it's not supposed to (both sides of any debate tend to just shout slogans). I think the root of the Scottish independence thing is more about sense of belonging. Those who see themselves as Scottish first vote differently from those who see themselves as British first. The laws we didn't vote for might have more mileage. For the majority of my voting life Scotland has voted Labour, but got Conservative governments. Now, as you say, that's the same for folk in Newcastle. I guess that's my point. If you see yourself as a Scottish more than British and Scotland continually votes en bloc and is overruled by their 'colonial masters', then that's going to sting a bit more than a voter in Newcastle. Either way we're not going to resolve it here😂
@@ScotlandHistoryTours Lol, thanks. You might be right, I might have picked that up from an old Eric Bogle song to be honest :D Verse I'm thinking of (I like Eric Bogle's work but this song is probably a bit old now): "And there's still talk of independence, but it seems mainly to consist Of singin' 'Flooer o' Scotland' ad nauseam when you're pissed. There's a little more milk an' honey to take the bad taste from the mouth, From watchin all the oil and the money drain frae the north to the south. You know, the more things change, the more they stay the same-auld Scottish proverb."
@@ScotlandHistoryTours yes but what about the Treaty of Greenwich in 1543, in which one of the terms was to unite the two kingdoms after the Scots were defeated at Solway Moss? You could have mentioned the Scottish victory at Ancrum Moor, surely the Rough Wooing would have counted?
The thing is, the common man knew no difference as to who was 'running' the country. They worked the land regardless, they weren't affected by politics. The Nobility were the ones affected. Lands were given or taken away, taxes were raised or lowered, marriages were arranged as bargaining tools and assurances that loyalty would be bought. What is 'freedom'? We're all free today for example to do practically what we want( so long as it's lawful). We can come and go as please. We're free!. We're taxed regardless of who runs our country. As people, we're in the same boat we in 700 years ago. Nothing will change for us, no matter who's in charge. This obsession some have with Independence is based on romance and fantasy. They seem to think we'll get Indy and a magic Unicorn will descend from the skies, blessing the people of Scotland for all time.
The common people _did_ care, & it _did_ affect them- why do you think the Peasants' Revolt happened? If a king demands massive taxes from his nobles, for sure they'll put up rent for their tenants, & so on. If he decides to start a war but is a rubbish military leader, loads of men will fight & die. If he's a rubbish king & civil war breaks out, it makes life a misery for everyone. Peasants would remain peasants, true, but they could be starving & horribly oppressed peasants, or peasants with some legal rights who could usually feed their families.
@@beth7935 And peasants were peasants regardless of who was their lord or monarch. It made no difference to them. The Black Death was massively responsible for the Peasants Revolt
Love the videos, you're a great story teller! Keep it up. As an Englishman who has lived in Scotland for many years, it never ceases to amaze me that (some) Scots actually do believe they are they are not independant, as if England has the country shackled in some way. Yes, there have been countless invasions (on both sides) and wars galore........but since the Union Scotmen have disproportinatly led, shaped and molded the UK in their image. It's a shame that the Scots consistenly down play the extraordianry contribution they have made this country, its standing and prosperity. Let's be honest, the UK would be much more a backwater of Europe if not for Scotland's contribution. To my mind, the nations of the UK and Ireland resemble a squabbling family than, say..Taiwan and China, Estonia and Russia etc. which are, to be fair, unjust comparisons. However, once again, I love the videos and am very much looking forward to viewing more
I think what may causes the confusion is when two elections in a row Scots vote in a parliament to have hold a referendum and one guy in London says, no and it couldn't be further from his in tray. It gives the impression that democracy in Scotland is superseded by some authoritarian outside force. You can see how the confusion would occur
@@ScotlandHistoryTours it depends if you view the UK as one single polity. Going by that logic London, Bristol, the North East etc have been superseded by an authoritarian force as well.
No they're not a single polity. That's why Scotland has it's own elections to its own parliament, that repeatedly votes one way, but is refused it's democratic rights. I support the people of Bristol, London, Aberdeen, or anywhere else to democratically express themselves. Obviously each of these places have different status based on how they came to be under a pseudo democratic centralised government which may make the argument different... but should it? How folk should govern themselves is messy and has nuances that we'll never sort out here. My point was simply that if The Scottish Parliament repeatedly votes to hold a democratic event, but London says: 'No we'll decide when you can have democracy.' it's little wonder folks feel aggrieved.
@@ScotlandHistoryTours By polity I mean a group of people under a single sovereign governing structure (there are some looser definitions though). US or Australian regional governments have equal and in some cases more powers than the Scottish parliament. No one would claim these countries have distinct internal polities though. Anyway, drifting off topic now. Keep up the great content 😃.
Respectfully sobering. I am sure a few groups south and north wont like the sensitive neutrality of how it's told, but some things on this small island and as so world over... never change lol. Edit: Yup lol. Scrolled just one comment down. I would give you a follow to hear your stories and education further but i fear i will find a lot of the comments below the videos... "triggering" or sad as a resident of this isle... and quite frankly, I'm tired of the politics. But please keep up the good education and work.
"Richard's crusade did liberate the Holy Land, this one" Ha ha great line. I guess there was one good thing that came out of the 3rd Crusade. Sorry Holy Land, you'll always have Dunbar!
Look at Name MacEanruig, when Scotland was run By Scottish Scotland/= some People was lords of tha Highlands there lands was there Country, Yes Country they could walk for two days and walk there Country till another Clan had tha rest of the land there of, it’s very same to America indigenous people, like Clans of people again. That is Scottish History 🍺😇🇬🇧✌️
That bastard Cromwell eh...Wasn’t it because of him that Christmas wasn’t celebrated and that “pointless enjoyment” was frowned upon? Inns and theatres shut too?
Hmm... that Scots would like to be free of English oppression isn't all that surprising, and the Welsh, and some of the northern Irish... Know who else would like to be free of English oppression? The English.
Here is my take on Scottish history with regards to the English always having designs I’m dominating controlling Scotland The English and their precursor Saxons and angles were particularly very aggressive and war like They were initially invited by the Roman Britain’s because the other Britain is known as the Picts were also exceptionally or like an aggressive The Roman Britain’s have their war like tendencies bread out of them courtesy of the Roman empire and the soldiers that were there to Garrison the place but that’s another story When the English coalesced into a solid group they look north specifically the English game and said I thought gosh all that land connected to us that would be someplace for someone to take over and further attack as a base to weaken in our kingdom we better take care of it and take it over for ourselves Getting ahead of myself I think King Henry eighth made a similar statement about Ireland and the island at this time saying that whoever controls Ireland holds a dagger to England’s heart at least in film drama that I’ve seen Scotland never had the population that England was able to raise my rates for the fact that it was warmer with more arable land some more food can be grown So Scotland was always limited by its population and it’s ability to produce food stuffs it made up for it by having exceptionally or like an aggressive people I could never match an army of the size and armaments of what an English king could raise
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being an independent country is not the same as being free.. bear in mind at Culloden, more Scots fought for the govt - and were all volunteers, whereas Charlies clan army were mostly tenants who had no choice but to fight when their laird ordered it. Scotland is not ruled by England, you have a devolved govt ( England does not , alone among the British nations ) and representation in Westminster central govt. 85% of the population lives in England, so inevitably England will be the senior partner. i'm English so i won't try and lecture you on the wisdom or otherwise of following SNP. Scots will determine their own fate, as they have done for the past 300 years.
Also the fact therehas been 10 Scottish PM's you know the people who run the country and have most of the power if Scotland was a colony I do not think there would have been 1.
@@owenfautley Scotland is in a union with England, Wales and N.I. - not a colony. idk why ppl insist on talking about "independence" .. they mean secession. 85% of Britons live in England so ofc most of the mps are from England. we could not have a system were each nation wielded equal power - all they would do is gang up on England in any case as many do now.. fewer ppl live in Scotland than do in London. the nations have fair representation based on their populations.
What you seem to be saying is Scotland has to be a colony because it's population is smaller and it must be that way so that England gets its way. That's all well and good, but you can't then say it can't be a colony. Anyway I really don't want to get involved in modern politics. This just seemed to lack logic in itself
@@ScotlandHistoryTours By saying that then the Orkney and Shetland islands are a colony of Scotland since they have a smaller population which then have most of the decisions done by the larger Scottish population in the mainland. In the uk government of course there would be more english than Scottish because it is a representation of of the total population England 55,980,000 and Scotland 5,454,000 England has 11x the population thus to have equal representation in the main parliament more mps and honestly Scotland gets the better deal they have rounded 1mp per 92,000 whilst in England it has 1mp oer 105,000. They also have their own devolved government where they have the power for almost everything baring what is important to keep central like defense, food and animal welfare standards (don't want to lower them like the EU are currently doing so ), foreign policy and paying civil servants.
@@marypetrie930 by being dominated by a Tory government Scots didn't vote for but the English did. It is not a fair union at all. It's always lead by English decisions. Enough is enough.
@@jackwhitehead5233 wasnt it just! Such nonsense. We already held a democratic vote and Scotland had spoken so that in itself demonstrates freedom does it not?
Overly simplistic? Probably. A useful summary of a complex issue? Certainly. My main concern is that to adopt a nationalist narrative and ignore the issues of power and class might exacerbate hostility between Scottish and English people.
@@ScotlandHistoryTours I worry about people sometimes... That's the 2nd person I've seen diss your hair, & I'm sure you care 0%, but in the interests of balance, I think your dreads are awesome. I just don't go round commenting on youtubers' appearance, because _duh_ :D
@@ScotlandHistoryTours are dreads just like you didn't wash your hair or is it a trait that people have that are relieves of African people. Not being disrespectful, just curious and see most country, do u think they see the uk as just england my uncle travelled to Asia and they thought it was. One of the many reasons I want independence
Why do the people living in scotland oppose the UK so much? It is getting annoying... The union of Scotland and England was done by a Scottish line of kings who had inherited the English throne and wanted to do so. The Scottish fought with them against Cromwell's parliamentary rebellion (a rebellion that moved us much further from absolute monarchy to democracy). Then the union was formalised into one sovereign state in 1707. Before that people living in scotland and england were all in poverty, ruled and exploited by a small number of well positioned individuals. Haggis is not Scottish, bagpipes are not unique to Scotland, Scottish kilts are from Highlanders not Scotland generaly. Since the union Scottish and English people together developed the best government system on earth which has been copied by countless countries around the globe, and given us, the peasants, (yes we are the peasants of this story), the freedoms we enjoy today. One fifth of the Scottish has been swapped out by migration in the past twenty years alone. Scotland is not oppressed by any standard I can think of. Seems like a bunch of people desperate for a tribal identity, and I will include you in that desperate group by how much you use the word "we". Wars of the past were not fought like they were today with the backing of the main population, the main population had no say, and wars certainly weren't fought on behalf of them. People living is Scotland and England have very very little genetic differences, if you compare other European countries the differences are much much larger. People in Scotland and England are no different except for the accents, and different areas of England have as much accent and culture variation as Scotland does. Wales has an actual real world language, Scotland not so much.
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Wish I could go to Scotland and take one of your tours!
I enjoy watching your unique way of telling the history of Scotland
Alas, I will have to content myself with your videos since I am of
advanced age and have health issues. (Clan Tailyour, here)
Great video as always Buddy..FREEDOM 🏴
{the ballot box is better than the sword} well said and thanks again for your knowledge, exceptional insight and humour
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Glad you enjoyed it
I subscribe to this channel because I am an old amateur historian and because this is a superb channel. Over my long life, I have seen and read of a great deal of blame for the troubles of the world assigned to old John Bull. With accumulation of knowledge and maturity, I am come to the verdict that the greatest oppressors of Scotland and Ireland were the very same that were the greatest oppressors of England. They were ignorance, cruelty, filth, poverty, greed, and ultra-violence.
Now I’m getting more interested in history 🌞
Yay
I think the history between England & Scotland has to be the most interesting and turbulent history there is anywhere in the world..our two nationalities are so intertwined and complex than we can ever imagine it's almost impossible to piece it all together and make proper sense of it all..
Nearly as I can discern, most people could not make much sense of it all back then. Most of them might have thought they could make some sense of some of it. It seems to me that a lot of very mean and dumb things got done or were attempted back then. I have also heard that Scottish children in modern times are, more often than not, shocked and saddened to learn of the cruelty and violence of their ancestors.
Include Ireland and the Wales and then you're back to square 1!🙋🇮🇪🏴🙏
Side note about the windows on the gothic and neogothic buildings in Scotland (mainly churches, but you see them elsewhere). In most of Europe and even England, the windows are rose windows. But in Scotland... most of them are thistle windows. It's like a big "up yours" to those Welsh and English roses in the language of architecture and it's so very Scottish.
@ alethearia
Hmm ... I wonder if the
"rose" windows in Wales
have a daffodil in the center?
Daffodils were brought to
Wales by the Romans. The
Welsh name for the daffodil
is: "Cennin Pedr", it means
"Head of Saint Peter".
Are the Scots (native, living in Scotland) as interested in learning their history as those of us in the States? Just curious! ☺️
Like everywhere else Scotland isn't a homogeneous population. Folks are interested in history. My gut feeling is that we tend to be more interested in events and narrative, but you guys are obsessed with clans and family history in a way that we aren't
Perhaps, more and more as Scotland is moving towards yet another time in her of history of independence, then yes, at this point I would say for sure more of us, and I’m a dual Scot/Canadian, are more interested in our history now, which was in many instances denied us in school. Channels like this one are important so our historical past is remembered and accurately documented and the way Bruce presents each of his ‘stories’ does just that.
Agree with what Bruce says, but in the same token there are many of us Scots interested in our History, it is just some more than others. Some Scots may be interested for different reasons, political, family stuff and the fact we have seen oor native Gaelic tongue die out. Only 1% of us Scots can speak and understand Scottish Gaelic anymore, some are trying tae learn tae save it, no tae mention Scots an aw, and that is the attempt, different when ye are spraffing it! 😂
We already know our history. Love you 🏴
@@roddymcniven8734 I ask because my grandad was born in Dunoon, and I've always been interested in our family history, but I've seen many on the Scottish FB feeds who seem almost disdainful of their American "cousins" for asking questions...
Cracking videos mate, I’ve been subbed for a while and honestly some of the places you’ve taken us too… Scotland’s just unreal for it’s scenery! I hadn’t the foggiest until you took us to these places, so much appreciated!
I was wondering, from your readings, travels, etc. Do you think the independence debate today is shaped more by a historical anti-English sentiment, or rather one of anti-Westminster?
I’d much appreciate a social history if you could find some primary sources. Such as what the common scot thought throughout time, rather than it’s rulers.
Keep up the good work!
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Thank you for all your hard work, Bruce.
You're welcome Leslie
Just discovered your channel this week and already watched a gid wee bunch of them man. I love the way you tell each wee tale with a bit of character.
I'm by no means anywhere near a history guru like yourself, but I feel I’m one of the few in my generation of Scots interested in the complexity of our history. Not interested in party politics in the slightest (some people can’t see the forest for the trees), but I voted for independence and will vote that way again if I think the means justifies the ends. Never out of bitterness for our English brothers and sisters (we've all fallen victim to the politics of greed and family feuds before), but out of hope. For the ability to be an autonomous nation that has a tangible say in it's future before the memory of the nation itself is forgotten.
I’m opposed to being told what part we’ll play in the future of our historical identity, and feeling like a trophy horse in the most subconscious, but very living definition of the colony we’ve become today; the recognition of which though almost lost and forgotten in the amnestic mists of time and through a lack of basic academic education, I believe to be self-evident …seemingly set in stone within the collective mind of contemporary Scotland, by some that still consider us fools being provided board in the “Scottish Estate”, the part of which is played perfectly today by generations of Scots with a lack of good old fashioned national identity.
As someone who has Scottish ancestors. But live on the English side of the Welsh border. I would tell any Scot to vote for independence. If I had my way the Kingdom of the Marches would also vote for independence from the bunch of (add word of choice here) in London. They they do not care for nowt but themselves.
Well said👏👏
Mind you Friend, was Born Henderson, I depo it many years ago to it’s Celtic name. So I have both today and Proud. Ps they both mean same am told out of history books. 🏴🍺✌️😇🥃🇬🇧
It's coming Bruce no mad rush.
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Nice one Bruce 👍
I thank you
Its a good headline for a you tube vid, but was bound to be contentious.Scotland isnt a colony and is of course already free. Hume, Burns etc all considered themselves as such, as did the hundreds of thousands of Scots who served proudly and with honour in the Kingdom of Great Britains armed forces.I really enjoy the way you present these and you deserve a much wider audience, subbed👍
Yes titles are intended to spark interest, Yes key enlightenment characters saw themselves as North Britons. Yes most military folk naturally see themselves as British, but there's no doubt we're a colony. Some folk are happy being a colony and that's OK. Others aren't. As I say the relationships between large and small neighbours is a complex issue throughout the world
@@ScotlandHistoryTours I think calling Scotland a colony doesnt stand up to even the slightest scrutiny.The Kingdom of Great Britain was a colonial power, with Scots at the absolute forefront in every capacity, militarily,administratively and politically. You do those places colonised a diservice by, in anyway ,suggesting Scotland itself is a victim of colonialism. Its simply wrong.
So we disagree. OK
@@ScotlandHistoryTours Ofc its ok to disagree. Maybe put a video together outlining how Scotland is infact a colony and not an ex coloniser. It would really put the cat amongst the pigeons😀
...and that's exactly why not. Spending all day dealing with the nutters on your side AND the nutters on my side. I believe you'd say NO THANKS
We can always look at it this way too. Considering the England and Scotland or all part of one landmass, that makes all of Scott in the Highlands and all of England the lowlands.
Longshanks to De Bruce” get the locals to fight for you using patriotism or something,and you could get yourself a nice wee kingdom. Always works,always will work., at little cost to yourself. Go for it.
With any luck we'll be free of this lot again. Saor Alba Gu Brath
Great video Bruce. You show what a wonderful gem representative government is if we stick with it.
I am sure someone has asked this before -- but what is the Gaelic phrase you sign off with? Thanks for your videos, truly amazing.
Translation is.on the product page.in my shop at www.scotlandhistorytours.co.uk/shop You don't have to buy anything to get the translation, but you do have to go to the shop 😜
How did you feel about Cameron blocking the release of a TV show (Outlander)? Does England truly fear an independent Scotland? How about a united Ireland ?
England's no more a single homogeneous unit than Scotland
Speaking as someone from England, we have no real emotion regarding either. Though I can't speak for Westminster of course.
Thanks Bruce!
You're welcome
Nice ending.
With Scottish independence comes the question how does Scotland protect its borders and coastline. The Scottish navy ? The Scottish Airforce ? The ScottishArmy ? What will the currency be tied to, The Euro or the pound ? Will Scotland be financially secure before the offshore gas and oil run out ? Brexit was Britains blunder, will Independence be Scotlands ?
This is history Jim, not modern day politics
What wars would Scotland be involved in if it was for governments we don’t elect a head of state born south our fianance ran in London along with our taxes the uk is about to fall apart if Scotland does grow up and take responsibility and accountability for itself we will sink with it , brexit was English independence
Now nowJohn, I refer you to my comment to Jim above
@@ScotlandHistoryTours Granted, it's history, but I was referring to your opening statement, which seems to be a question for the present.
Jim, I feel you are simply trolling as the questions you have asked have been answered time and time again, so by this stage, you haven't looked, or you dont want to know? By your blatant slant and bias, Im pretty sure I know what the answer is. The solution will not be found, however, in a youtube comments section. So please keep your trolling out of this.
Thanks for the video Bruce. The idea that Scotland is subservient to England now reminds me of the idea that the UK was subservient to Brussels until Brexit and now isn't. (And the arguments used in the run-up to Brexit seemed to have a strong similarity to the arguments used in favour of Scottish independence prior to the referendum on Scottish independence.) Is Scotland more subservient to 'England' than say Newcastle or Reading are, or they all just run by (and for the benefit of) London? Thanks.
The situation vis à vis UK and Brussels is completely different from Scotland and UK. In some ways Yorkshire, Northumberland or Cornwall have similar problems to Scotland. I suppose the difference is that they were subsumed by conquest hundreds of years before Scotland was subsumed, and accept being English
@@ScotlandHistoryTours Thanks for the reply Bruce :) I just think that in both cases, some of the pro-independence reasons give were/are "laws made by people that we didn't vote for" and "huge amounts of money draining from here to there".
They do sound like the kind of thing you'd hear from BREXITEERS.
I just don't recall that being the argument in Scotland. In fact the very opposite. We were (and are) continually told that we're being subsidised by the English. Now that doesn't stand up to scrutiny, but it's not supposed to (both sides of any debate tend to just shout slogans). I think the root of the Scottish independence thing is more about sense of belonging. Those who see themselves as Scottish first vote differently from those who see themselves as British first.
The laws we didn't vote for might have more mileage. For the majority of my voting life Scotland has voted Labour, but got Conservative governments. Now, as you say, that's the same for folk in Newcastle. I guess that's my point. If you see yourself as a Scottish more than British and Scotland continually votes en bloc and is overruled by their 'colonial masters', then that's going to sting a bit more than a voter in Newcastle. Either way we're not going to resolve it here😂
@@ScotlandHistoryTours Lol, thanks. You might be right, I might have picked that up from an old Eric Bogle song to be honest :D Verse I'm thinking of (I like Eric Bogle's work but this song is probably a bit old now):
"And there's still talk of independence, but it seems mainly to consist
Of singin' 'Flooer o' Scotland' ad nauseam when you're pissed.
There's a little more milk an' honey to take the bad taste from the mouth,
From watchin all the oil and the money drain frae the north to the south.
You know, the more things change, the more they stay the same-auld Scottish proverb."
Scotland for every
What about the Rough Wooing?
That wasn't a takeover though
@@ScotlandHistoryTours yes but what about the Treaty of Greenwich in 1543, in which one of the terms was to unite the two kingdoms after the Scots were defeated at Solway Moss? You could have mentioned the Scottish victory at Ancrum Moor, surely the Rough Wooing would have counted?
The thing is, the common man knew no difference as to who was 'running' the country. They worked the land regardless, they weren't affected by politics. The Nobility were the ones affected. Lands were given or taken away, taxes were raised or lowered, marriages were arranged as bargaining tools and assurances that loyalty would be bought.
What is 'freedom'? We're all free today for example to do practically what we want( so long as it's lawful). We can come and go as please. We're free!. We're taxed regardless of who runs our country. As people, we're in the same boat we in 700 years ago. Nothing will change for us, no matter who's in charge.
This obsession some have with Independence is based on romance and fantasy. They seem to think we'll get Indy and a magic Unicorn will descend from the skies, blessing the people of Scotland for all time.
The common people _did_ care, & it _did_ affect them- why do you think the Peasants' Revolt happened? If a king demands massive taxes from his nobles, for sure they'll put up rent for their tenants, & so on. If he decides to start a war but is a rubbish military leader, loads of men will fight & die. If he's a rubbish king & civil war breaks out, it makes life a misery for everyone. Peasants would remain peasants, true, but they could be starving & horribly oppressed peasants, or peasants with some legal rights who could usually feed their families.
@@beth7935 And peasants were peasants regardless of who was their lord or monarch. It made no difference to them.
The Black Death was massively responsible for the Peasants Revolt
Love the videos, you're a great story teller! Keep it up. As an Englishman who has lived in Scotland for many years, it never ceases to amaze me that (some) Scots actually do believe they are they are not independant, as if England has the country shackled in some way. Yes, there have been countless invasions (on both sides) and wars galore........but since the Union Scotmen have disproportinatly led, shaped and molded the UK in their image. It's a shame that the Scots consistenly down play the extraordianry contribution they have made this country, its standing and prosperity. Let's be honest, the UK would be much more a backwater of Europe if not for Scotland's contribution. To my mind, the nations of the UK and Ireland resemble a squabbling family than, say..Taiwan and China, Estonia and Russia etc. which are, to be fair, unjust comparisons. However, once again, I love the videos and am very much looking forward to viewing more
I think what may causes the confusion is when two elections in a row Scots vote in a parliament to have hold a referendum and one guy in London says, no and it couldn't be further from his in tray. It gives the impression that democracy in Scotland is superseded by some authoritarian outside force.
You can see how the confusion would occur
@@ScotlandHistoryTours it depends if you view the UK as one single polity. Going by that logic London, Bristol, the North East etc have been superseded by an authoritarian force as well.
No they're not a single polity. That's why Scotland has it's own elections to its own parliament, that repeatedly votes one way, but is refused it's democratic rights. I support the people of Bristol, London, Aberdeen, or anywhere else to democratically express themselves. Obviously each of these places have different status based on how they came to be under a pseudo democratic centralised government which may make the argument different... but should it?
How folk should govern themselves is messy and has nuances that we'll never sort out here. My point was simply that if The Scottish Parliament repeatedly votes to hold a democratic event, but London says: 'No we'll decide when you can have democracy.' it's little wonder folks feel aggrieved.
@@ScotlandHistoryTours By polity I mean a group of people under a single sovereign governing structure (there are some looser definitions though).
US or Australian regional governments have equal and in some cases more powers than the Scottish parliament. No one would claim these countries have distinct internal polities though.
Anyway, drifting off topic now. Keep up the great content 😃.
Another good and informative video 👍. Parcel of rogues indeed . Looks like you have some more subscribers 😁
Little by Little they're growing
Respectfully sobering. I am sure a few groups south and north wont like the sensitive neutrality of how it's told, but some things on this small island and as so world over... never change lol.
Edit: Yup lol. Scrolled just one comment down. I would give you a follow to hear your stories and education further but i fear i will find a lot of the comments below the videos... "triggering" or sad as a resident of this isle... and quite frankly, I'm tired of the politics.
But please keep up the good education and work.
Scotland is free now! However, what is free?
"Stand back and stand by"... I see what you did there.😉
Well done Stephanie😜
Five stories for the price of one? What a bargain
"Richard's crusade did liberate the Holy Land, this one" Ha ha great line. I guess there was one good thing that came out of the 3rd Crusade. Sorry Holy Land, you'll always have Dunbar!
The world is like a big council estate, you can't choose your neighbours.
Your videos are good Mr fumey. My favourite people from Scottish history is the border reivers.
Aye, they wouldnae be if the came roon yer hoose
@@ScotlandHistoryTours aye your right would be like a visit from captain black beard and al capone
For better or worse my ancestors. It is what it is. Those people settled the western USA where I still live today.
Me often thinks that old long shanks had Alexander III OFFED so he could take over Scotland
Hmmmm 🙄
Look at Name MacEanruig, when Scotland was run By Scottish Scotland/= some People was lords of tha Highlands there lands was there Country, Yes Country they could walk for two days and walk there Country till another Clan had tha rest of the land there of, it’s very same to America indigenous people, like Clans of people again. That is Scottish History 🍺😇🇬🇧✌️
That bastard Cromwell eh...Wasn’t it because of him that Christmas wasn’t celebrated and that “pointless enjoyment” was frowned upon? Inns and theatres shut too?
I think John Knox deserves a mention, don't you?
The English love of acquiring it’s neighbors
I think it's just human nature
you're welcome.
Hmm... that Scots would like to be free of English oppression isn't all that surprising, and the Welsh, and some of the northern Irish... Know who else would like to be free of English oppression?
The English.
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Here is my take on Scottish history with regards to the English always having designs I’m dominating controlling Scotland
The English and their precursor Saxons and angles were particularly very aggressive and war like
They were initially invited by the Roman Britain’s because the other Britain is known as the Picts were also exceptionally or like an aggressive
The Roman Britain’s have their war like tendencies bread out of them courtesy of the Roman empire and the soldiers that were there to Garrison the place but that’s another story
When the English coalesced into a solid group they look north specifically the English game and said I thought gosh all that land connected to us that would be someplace for someone to take over and further attack as a base to weaken in our kingdom we better take care of it and take it over for ourselves
Getting ahead of myself I think King Henry eighth made a similar statement about Ireland and the island at this time saying that whoever controls Ireland holds a dagger to England’s heart at least in film drama that I’ve seen
Scotland never had the population that England was able to raise my rates for the fact that it was warmer with more arable land some more food can be grown
So Scotland was always limited by its population and it’s ability to produce food stuffs it made up for it by having exceptionally or like an aggressive people I could never match an army of the size and armaments of what an English king could raise
@🏴 Scotland History Tours w/ Bruce Fummey
Bha a’ bhidio seo nam inntinn às deidh dhi (banrigh Ealasaid) dìreach a dhol seachad. Thòisich mi a’ smaoineachadh air mar a bha cuid ann an Alba air a bhith ag iarraidh agus fhathast ag iarraidh a bhith gu tur saor bho riaghladh Shasainn
Bullshit I live in the UK and I am free.
I'd like to talk with you over a beer
Ah, remember pubs?
being an independent country is not the same as being free.. bear in mind at Culloden, more Scots fought for the govt - and were all volunteers, whereas Charlies clan army were mostly tenants who had no choice but to fight when their laird ordered it. Scotland is not ruled by England, you have a devolved govt ( England does not , alone among the British nations ) and representation in Westminster central govt. 85% of the population lives in England, so inevitably England will be the senior partner. i'm English so i won't try and lecture you on the wisdom or otherwise of following SNP. Scots will determine their own fate, as they have done for the past 300 years.
Also the fact therehas been 10 Scottish PM's you know the people who run the country and have most of the power if Scotland was a colony I do not think there would have been 1.
@@owenfautley Scotland is in a union with England, Wales and N.I. - not a colony. idk why ppl insist on talking about "independence" .. they mean secession. 85% of Britons live in England so ofc most of the mps are from England. we could not have a system were each nation wielded equal power - all they would do is gang up on England in any case as many do now.. fewer ppl live in Scotland than do in London. the nations have fair representation based on their populations.
What you seem to be saying is Scotland has to be a colony because it's population is smaller and it must be that way so that England gets its way. That's all well and good, but you can't then say it can't be a colony. Anyway I really don't want to get involved in modern politics. This just seemed to lack logic in itself
@@ScotlandHistoryTours By saying that then the Orkney and Shetland islands are a colony of Scotland since they have a smaller population which then have most of the decisions done by the larger Scottish population in the mainland. In the uk government of course there would be more english than Scottish because it is a representation of of the total population England 55,980,000 and Scotland 5,454,000 England has 11x the population thus to have equal representation in the main parliament more mps and honestly Scotland gets the better deal they have rounded 1mp per 92,000 whilst in England it has 1mp oer 105,000. They also have their own devolved government where they have the power for almost everything baring what is important to keep central like defense, food and animal welfare standards (don't want to lower them like the EU are currently doing so ), foreign policy and paying civil servants.
Hopefully one day Nicola will make it a 6th time. I live in hope we will be free of English oppression again.
How are you oppressed?
@@marypetrie930 by being dominated by a Tory government Scots didn't vote for but the English did. It is not a fair union at all. It's always lead by English decisions. Enough is enough.
Ridiculous comment 😂
@@jackwhitehead5233 wasnt it just! Such nonsense. We already held a democratic vote and Scotland had spoken so that in itself demonstrates freedom does it not?
Overly simplistic, maybe do a video on Panama... Scottish colonialism isn’t spoken about much. I wonder why?
Overly simplistic? 1200 years into as many minutes. How could it possibly be overly simplistic?😄😆😜
Overly simplistic? Probably. A useful summary of a complex issue? Certainly. My main concern is that to adopt a nationalist narrative and ignore the issues of power and class might exacerbate hostility between Scottish and English people.
Ah think that's a disgrace, choppin yir heed aff afore ye've had yir puddin lol
There is no English oppression of Scotland. From someone who lives in the Borders.
1707 a United Kingdom was formed, is that not one helluva joke on us all
Only if you think becoming the literal global hegemon is some kind of joke.
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i would watch your videos but the amount of times you slapped your lips is so off putting so sadly i wont be watching anymore.
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Get a hair cut.
😆😅😂🤣No
@@ScotlandHistoryTours I worry about people sometimes... That's the 2nd person I've seen diss your hair, & I'm sure you care 0%, but in the interests of balance, I think your dreads are awesome. I just don't go round commenting on youtubers' appearance, because _duh_ :D
Just the second. There have been waaaay more than that. Am I changing them? I think you can guess😜
@@ScotlandHistoryTours are dreads just like you didn't wash your hair or is it a trait that people have that are relieves of African people. Not being disrespectful, just curious and see most country, do u think they see the uk as just england my uncle travelled to Asia and they thought it was. One of the many reasons I want independence
Why do the people living in scotland oppose the UK so much? It is getting annoying... The union of Scotland and England was done by a Scottish line of kings who had inherited the English throne and wanted to do so. The Scottish fought with them against Cromwell's parliamentary rebellion (a rebellion that moved us much further from absolute monarchy to democracy). Then the union was formalised into one sovereign state in 1707. Before that people living in scotland and england were all in poverty, ruled and exploited by a small number of well positioned individuals. Haggis is not Scottish, bagpipes are not unique to Scotland, Scottish kilts are from Highlanders not Scotland generaly. Since the union Scottish and English people together developed the best government system on earth which has been copied by countless countries around the globe, and given us, the peasants, (yes we are the peasants of this story), the freedoms we enjoy today. One fifth of the Scottish has been swapped out by migration in the past twenty years alone. Scotland is not oppressed by any standard I can think of.
Seems like a bunch of people desperate for a tribal identity, and I will include you in that desperate group by how much you use the word "we". Wars of the past were not fought like they were today with the backing of the main population, the main population had no say, and wars certainly weren't fought on behalf of them.
People living is Scotland and England have very very little genetic differences, if you compare other European countries the differences are much much larger. People in Scotland and England are no different except for the accents, and different areas of England have as much accent and culture variation as Scotland does. Wales has an actual real world language, Scotland not so much.
If I had to narrow it down, I reckon Thatcher is the reason
@@ScotlandHistoryTours the Scots are scared of a dead women! Sums it up really!!
Apologies, I thought you were being serious and I was trying to respond helpfully, but you're just being nasty and silly
@@ScotlandHistoryTours apologies, I thought the whole video was nasty and silly, but it turns out you are just a genuine numpty
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