I have been using the Virpil Constellation Alpha now for well over a year, it's not a yoke but boy is it smooth. As you said, every single tiny movement on the stick is shown in the sim, its utterly fantastic, smooth and precise. I don't use a yoke so for me it's a very natural way to fly, especially for jets, single stick GA planes. Using the Crosswinds and a logitech Flight Throttle Quadrant. A very happy pilot here
Whata re your settings? I have been trying to figure out how to map, but i am so lost. I am at the point in which i do not know if i want to continue banging my head. My Joystick inputs are not smooth, and my aircraft always hops. My yoke does hard turns and stays in what ever position i go to even when i center my Virpil control
You're so right, I guess whe're on the same page from the same book when it comes to DCS, MSFS, TM Warthog Hotas and the Virpil Hotas. The thing I'm tryin to find out now is how to use the two mini joy-sticks - the one on the Throttle and the one on the Flight stick - to move my drone's around in MSFS. Just dicovered MSFS again after 26 years - taking a little "sabbatical" from DCS now - and man .. does MSFS has improved a lot since 1998. Love to fly the "old Iron" like the DC-6 and the DC-3 ... I can listen to those engines all day long ;)
I use the VKB Gladiator setup with MFG Crosswind rudder pedals. Amazing what premium gear does for the tim experience. I looked a Virple too but I like the setup that VKB offered because it target a good balance between gen aviation and combat sim.
nice video, I have 2 virpil constellation prime and want to use the right virpil but the sensitiviti is mightmare. what is you sensitivities of the pitch / roll ? I can
I recall driving to Seattle many years for the Thrustmaster Hotas and people thought the Thrustmaster super expensive in Canadian $’s. I am happy to pay for quality. 31:53
Ace Combat, im still working with tflight hotas, and since switched temp. to pc and def need an upgrade for ease of use. The Virpil products looks like a nice save up during holiday sales!
I have a much under used Virpil CM2 which i'll start using for MSFS, already use ''Honeycomb Yoke/Throttle'' for msfs, Dual T1600m's for Elite Dangerous/Huntersnet Starfighter and KB mouse for the black sheep Star Citizen. Virpil are so refined, rugged and customizable.
Any chance that you can share your settings for the virpil alpha stick? It is unflyable for me so far. I have tried 0-20-40 and none of them work. The plane over reacts to every move and is basically not flyable.
Curious to see how it would be with Fenix or PMDG737. If you can do a setup on it that would be great! Also SpadNext setup suggestions. Having a hard time figuring that out. Thanks for the videos !
With all the flight sim gadgetry I have bought over the years (lots) the virpil constellation alpha prime is the absolute STANDOUT. The virpil software isn’t exactly simple, but after a long while i have managed to get some of the buttons to function. Would love to know if there is a way to just import the base settings for each aircraft I want to use and save it as a separate profile. Then just tweak it in MSFS2024 and DCS. I have a full virpil helicopter setup ready to go.
Nice video, quick question: from your experience with the joystick base (essentially), is the joystick ALWAYS returning to middle point no matter where the initial deflection is (like bottom-left bottom-right, top-left top-right)? I'm asking this because the new VKB joystick I have NEVER returns to middle point. Thank you.
just got my first gear, Virpil CM3 throttle and VKB gladiator premium, quite overwhelming to set up, so taking it one step at a a time and adding more and more, but oh boy is it fun
@@dreaux88 u need to bind everything manually, i dont think MSFS has any preset or template for this throttle, i remember i had to bind one by one and it worked. If its not registering your keys, try to open virpil software, update to latest version both sw and firmware and then see if the buttons register within that software, if they do, its a MSFS issue and not your device
Thanks very much for this channel. After watching you fly Msfs 2020 with Virpil, I was convinced that Virpil is the way to go. I just placed an order for the base, stick, and throttle, but they are on backorder. I need your help with the setup. Please can you tell me what your setup configuration in msfs 2020 is ? For example, what button does what and etc-- When I watch you fly, you do it with such ease. I'm new at msfs. Please, I need your buttons configuration layout. For the stick, I got the vpc Constellation ALPHA Prime. Thanks sir
Hi hope ypu are well today , I need some help with my Virpil sticks cant get settings correct in Star Cit, been trying for a month now cant get correct , Help, Curt,
Hey buddy I just purchased the Virpil hawk 60 collective and was wondering when I do the key bindings for msfs will the collective and throttle be on one binding wich should be collective right so it should go up and down and throttle on one binding is that right?
How did you set it up? I have a Winwing F 16EX stick and a Virpil throttle and MSFS see's them under controls but does not show me binding to apply. The page is blank.
I now use the t-flight from trustmaster, its a entry level cheap hotas, i now have 100 hours in msfs and i realy like the sim. im planning on upgrading, but i cant get my mind on what i should buy, a quality hotas like virpil or vkb or the honeycomb yoke and trottle quadrant. I have no intentions for flying DCS or space sims and i want it to be as realistic as possible. Knowing you tested both honeycomb and the quality hotas, were would you spend your hard earned mony if you had to choose? I mostly fly yoke GA. how is the honeycomb resolution vs the virpil? is it in the same ballpark?
i just got virpil setup. alpha prime, throttle, and pedals. only nextive i have found (i know i am in the minority on this) those 4 buttons on the back of the throttle are in the damn way.i want trust my fingers there but i cannot because ther eis a button in he way. otherwise this was worth the investment and the wait. fingers crossed i can get them to work on FS2004 otherwise i will be buying x plane 12
@@OverkillSimulations oh ok, in dcs the f18 has a more weighted feel to it in comparison to msfs f18 so I was trying to get the same feeling, the raptor also feels very sensitive but for general aviation it’s perfect
Do you have the autopilot setup on the throttle? And how do you do it? Or a quick tutorial on setting up the stick and throttle in term of assigning buttoms and switches.
Here's a question for you: I am a retired Army helicopter pilot, 5500 hours in MH-47E, CH-47D/C/B, OH-58A/C. I bought MSFS 2020 when it first came out. I have been downloading different helicopters and I looking forward to the updates coming for helicopter support. I have struggle finding flight controls to use, would these be a good starting set? Thanks!
I use Virpil and I fly helis. The joystick is incredibly precise. I have a Thrustmaster Warthog too. IMO, the difference between a budget HOTAS and a Thrustmaster Warthog, is the same difference between the Warthog and Virpil. The quality is amazing, and more importantly, the precision. You can also purchase stick extensions to make it longer, which adds to the precision tenfold. I wouldn't call them a starting set exactly, these would be closer to the high end. If you choose Virpil you will be pleasantly surprised.
Yep seems most of their stuff is pretty good.....IF you can get it! Many items are ALWAYS on backorder and it takes MONTHS to get those items. Other issue is they charge you for everything you order upfront so your money is tied up for the entire time you're waiting. They have serious supply issues and have had for years. I ordered mine several years ago and just went up on their site. All the same items are STILL on backorder. Be prepared for a long wait. At least in the US this is the case. Not sure about other countries. Too bad.
Everytime i order from them theres a backorder but the order is sent within a few weeks, just ordered a backorder on july 15th and its here already and thats the third order in a couple of years, always sent by DHL, always just a few days postage to Australia.
To add to jsflood's comment for anyone else seeing this, the twist axis, on the Constellation grips at least, is phenomenal. I've _always_ had issues with inaccurate joystick twists in the past, but it's absolutely perfect on the Constellation Alpha.
Where is this >60k resolution documented. I looked and Virpil do not seem to openly advertise their resolution. The only mention of resolution I could find was in the calibration software docs and it suggested a resolution of >16k.
If TM didnt cheapout and used Hal effect sensors instead of pots they would have the same resoloution, just saying, but the TM products have also been out for quite a while and were the flagship of controls back in the days as there nearest competitor was Saitek back then with their over piced plastic stuff. Dont get me started on the junk pots they use and trying to find them is as rare as rocking horse poo. Also if TM had used a plastic flight stick instead of all metal you would get more control as you are not trying to overcome and fighting the weight throw caused by a heavy stick which is more evident when you add a stick extension hence why TM dont really offer one like Virpil do. TM went down the road of modeling off real world controls like the Cougar and the Warthog from the F-16 and A-10. The TM Cougar was mainly aimed at the F16 community back in the days of Falcon 4.0 when Microprose went belly up and its source code was leaked and you got the OpenFalcon, FreeFalcon/RedViper, BMS projects which were all free except you had to own the original Falcon 4.0 CD. Allied Force (you had to purchase) by Lead Pursuit/Atari was a collection of stolen work done by the previous teams mentioned for a quick cash grab by Atari who bought the ip's for Microprose and didnt last too long as the community went underground and ignored the C&D issued by LP and said a big F*****U, Sadly now there is only BMS team left. The TM Warthog was released when ED had Lock on Modern Air Combat and Flaming Cliffs then merged and developed DCS and released their 1st A10 module and TM used the same stick as the cougar but shrank the base and created the new throttle.
Thustmasters uses hall sensors even in the t16000m (not in the twist stick, though). But the ball in the warthog is not as smooth as the cams that vipil has. I know, I own both.
Bro...literally cannot figure out how to setup my cm3 and constellation within MSFS. Please tell me you have a video or somewhere I can figure it out. MSFS reads the hotas but literally nothing is bound. At least DCS it auto binds the basic stuff like throttle.
@@dreaux88what are you guys talking about? Once you have configured a profile in the Virpil software and made sure the firmware is up to date you then start adding assignments in MSFS, it’s not difficult and no one should assume every game or sim has presets for every controller device out there. Now, what do you mean the page is blank? Of course it’s going to be if you haven’t added anything to the device yet. If the device is showing at the top search for an assignment and add it.
I've been looking at this set for like 2 months. They were always on back order. I give up and order the warthog yesterday. Now you posted this video and I see them in stock on the site. UGH :(
If you still can, cancel that order or return. Virpil products are always in back order, because they are made to order! Depending on where you live, expect to receive a Virpil in about 2-3 weeks. It is soo worth it
I have been using the Virpil Constellation Alpha now for well over a year, it's not a yoke but boy is it smooth. As you said, every single tiny movement on the stick is shown in the sim, its utterly fantastic, smooth and precise. I don't use a yoke so for me it's a very natural way to fly, especially for jets, single stick GA planes. Using the Crosswinds and a logitech Flight Throttle Quadrant. A very happy pilot here
Whata re your settings? I have been trying to figure out how to map, but i am so lost. I am at the point in which i do not know if i want to continue banging my head. My Joystick inputs are not smooth, and my aircraft always hops. My yoke does hard turns and stays in what ever position i go to even when i center my Virpil control
I have VKB’s Warbird with the MCG ultimate grip and its amazing, smooth and precise and built like a tank.
I know virpil and VKB are very similar in their builds so I don't doubt it. Definitely been a game changer for me that I didn't expect
You're so right, I guess whe're on the same page from the same book when it comes to DCS, MSFS, TM Warthog Hotas and the Virpil Hotas.
The thing I'm tryin to find out now is how to use the two mini joy-sticks - the one on the Throttle and the one on the Flight stick - to move my drone's around in MSFS.
Just dicovered MSFS again after 26 years - taking a little "sabbatical" from DCS now - and man .. does MSFS has improved a lot since 1998.
Love to fly the "old Iron" like the DC-6 and the DC-3 ... I can listen to those engines all day long ;)
I use the VKB Gladiator setup with MFG Crosswind rudder pedals. Amazing what premium gear does for the tim experience. I looked a Virple too but I like the setup that VKB offered because it target a good balance between gen aviation and combat sim.
You're absolutely right about the quality of product!! Night and day
nice video, I have 2 virpil constellation prime and want to use the right virpil but the sensitiviti is mightmare. what is you sensitivities of the pitch / roll ? I can
I recall driving to Seattle many years for the Thrustmaster Hotas and people thought the Thrustmaster super expensive in Canadian $’s. I am happy to pay for quality. 31:53
Ace Combat, im still working with tflight hotas, and since switched temp. to pc and def need an upgrade for ease of use. The Virpil products looks like a nice save up during holiday sales!
They're really quite amazing. I really wasn't expecting the quality they are
I have a much under used Virpil CM2 which i'll start using for MSFS, already use ''Honeycomb Yoke/Throttle'' for msfs, Dual T1600m's for Elite Dangerous/Huntersnet Starfighter and KB mouse for the black sheep Star Citizen. Virpil are so refined, rugged and customizable.
anything you say that is in need of work is great for the revision process.
Any chance that you can share your settings for the virpil alpha stick? It is unflyable for me so far. I have tried 0-20-40 and none of them work. The plane over reacts to every move and is basically not flyable.
Curious to see how it would be with Fenix or PMDG737. If you can do a setup on it that would be great! Also SpadNext setup suggestions. Having a hard time figuring that out. Thanks for the videos !
With all the flight sim gadgetry I have bought over the years (lots) the virpil constellation alpha prime is the absolute STANDOUT. The virpil software isn’t exactly simple, but after a long while i have managed to get some of the buttons to function. Would love to know if there is a way to just import the base settings for each aircraft I want to use and save it as a separate profile. Then just tweak it in MSFS2024 and DCS. I have a full virpil helicopter setup ready to go.
Nice video, quick question: from your experience with the joystick base (essentially), is the joystick ALWAYS returning to middle point no matter where the initial deflection is (like bottom-left bottom-right, top-left top-right)? I'm asking this because the new VKB joystick I have NEVER returns to middle point. Thank you.
just got my first gear, Virpil CM3 throttle and VKB gladiator premium, quite overwhelming to set up, so taking it one step at a a time and adding more and more, but oh boy is it fun
I have the Virpil CM3 throttle and it's listed under controls but will not let me bind. It gives me a blank page. Am I missing a step?
@@dreaux88 u need to bind everything manually, i dont think MSFS has any preset or template for this throttle, i remember i had to bind one by one and it worked.
If its not registering your keys, try to open virpil software, update to latest version both sw and firmware and then see if the buttons register within that software, if they do, its a MSFS issue and not your device
@@BeowulfGaming Thank you I will try again.
Thanks very much for this channel. After watching you fly Msfs 2020 with Virpil, I was convinced that Virpil is the way to go.
I just placed an order for the base, stick, and throttle, but they are on backorder. I need your help with the setup. Please can you tell me what your setup configuration in msfs 2020 is ?
For example, what button does what and etc-- When I watch you fly, you do it with such ease. I'm new at msfs.
Please, I need your buttons configuration layout.
For the stick,
I got the vpc Constellation ALPHA Prime.
Thanks sir
Hi hope ypu are well today , I need some help with my Virpil sticks cant get settings correct in Star Cit, been trying for a month now cant get correct , Help, Curt,
Hey buddy I just purchased the Virpil hawk 60 collective and was wondering when I do the key bindings for msfs will the collective and throttle be on one binding wich should be collective right so it should go up and down and throttle on one binding is that right?
Great video! I’m really thinking about replacing my Warthog Hotas now haha, which cams do you have installed on the CM3 Base?
How did you set it up? I have a Winwing F 16EX stick and a Virpil throttle and MSFS see's them under controls but does not show me binding to apply. The page is blank.
I now use the t-flight from trustmaster, its a entry level cheap hotas, i now have 100 hours in msfs and i realy like the sim. im planning on upgrading, but i cant get my mind on what i should buy, a quality hotas like virpil or vkb or the honeycomb yoke and trottle quadrant. I have no intentions for flying DCS or space sims and i want it to be as realistic as possible. Knowing you tested both honeycomb and the quality hotas, were would you spend your hard earned mony if you had to choose? I mostly fly yoke GA. how is the honeycomb resolution vs the virpil? is it in the same ballpark?
i just got virpil setup. alpha prime, throttle, and pedals. only nextive i have found (i know i am in the minority on this) those 4 buttons on the back of the throttle are in the damn way.i want trust my fingers there but i cannot because ther eis a button in he way. otherwise this was worth the investment and the wait. fingers crossed i can get them to work on FS2004 otherwise i will be buying x plane 12
Just recieved my Virpil controls a couple weeks back and I’m loving them! I was curious what sensitivity settings you are using in msfs?
Keep it all default... a pain to learn but trust me worth it in the end.
@@OverkillSimulations oh ok, in dcs the f18 has a more weighted feel to it in comparison to msfs f18 so I was trying to get the same feeling, the raptor also feels very sensitive but for general aviation it’s perfect
Do you have the autopilot setup on the throttle? And how do you do it? Or a quick tutorial on setting up the stick and throttle in term of assigning buttoms and switches.
It's not possible to use the rudder with this grip?
Does the stick have Z axis twist to control yaw/rudder?
For the throttle, do you need to configure the buttons in the Virpil software or only in SPAD.
SPAD
Here's a question for you: I am a retired Army helicopter pilot, 5500 hours in MH-47E, CH-47D/C/B, OH-58A/C. I bought MSFS 2020 when it first came out. I have been downloading different helicopters and I looking forward to the updates coming for helicopter support. I have struggle finding flight controls to use, would these be a good starting set? Thanks!
I use Virpil and I fly helis. The joystick is incredibly precise. I have a Thrustmaster Warthog too. IMO, the difference between a budget HOTAS and a Thrustmaster Warthog, is the same difference between the Warthog and Virpil. The quality is amazing, and more importantly, the precision. You can also purchase stick extensions to make it longer, which adds to the precision tenfold.
I wouldn't call them a starting set exactly, these would be closer to the high end. If you choose Virpil you will be pleasantly surprised.
Yep seems most of their stuff is pretty good.....IF you can get it! Many items are ALWAYS on backorder and it takes MONTHS to get those items. Other issue is they charge you for everything you order upfront so your money is tied up for the entire time you're waiting. They have serious supply issues and have had for years. I ordered mine several years ago and just went up on their site. All the same items are STILL on backorder.
Be prepared for a long wait. At least in the US this is the case. Not sure about other countries. Too bad.
Everytime i order from them theres a backorder but the order is sent within a few weeks, just ordered a backorder on july 15th and its here already and thats the third order in a couple of years, always sent by DHL, always just a few days postage to Australia.
What is the airplane in the caption image please? :)
Got the constellation alpha prime with the mongoost50cm2 base for Star Citizen... Virpil is top notch!
I'm loving them!! It's an amazing change
@@OverkillSimulations my first joystick since 1990... Quite the upgrade from 3 buttons and two axes haha
How do you find the Alpha Prime in your hand? To some it feels a bit thick and stubby. What’s your opinion? Thanks.
@@doifeellucky it's my first joystick since 1990 it's amazing to me.
@@doifeellucky I mean... It is kinda big and bulky overall... Idk I love it though
I'd really like to get the Virpil setup but then I'd also have to get some rudder pedals. My X-56 Hotas has the twist grip for the rudder.
VirPil have twist on their grips too, at lest I have it on my Constellation ALPHA Prime.
To add to jsflood's comment for anyone else seeing this, the twist axis, on the Constellation grips at least, is phenomenal. I've _always_ had issues with inaccurate joystick twists in the past, but it's absolutely perfect on the Constellation Alpha.
Where is this >60k resolution documented. I looked and Virpil do not seem to openly advertise their resolution. The only mention of resolution I could find was in the calibration software docs and it suggested a resolution of >16k.
16 bit = 2^16 steps = 65536 steps
@@alphastratus6623 yep I know what 2^16 is but where’s the Virpil published resolution. I couldn’t find 16bit referenced.
I tried to get on your discord but it will not verify me, it does not accept the code it sent by phone
That's odd.. I never heard of that
Hello. Which plane are you flying in the vidéo ?
M20 Mooney
@@OverkillSimulations Thank you
I need to sell my
Kidney for this joke…
If TM didnt cheapout and used Hal effect sensors instead of pots they would have the same resoloution, just saying, but the TM products have also been out for quite a while and were the flagship of controls back in the days as there nearest competitor was Saitek back then with their over piced plastic stuff. Dont get me started on the junk pots they use and trying to find them is as rare as rocking horse poo.
Also if TM had used a plastic flight stick instead of all metal you would get more control as you are not trying to overcome and fighting the weight throw caused by a heavy stick which is more evident when you add a stick extension hence why TM dont really offer one like Virpil do.
TM went down the road of modeling off real world controls like the Cougar and the Warthog from the F-16 and A-10.
The TM Cougar was mainly aimed at the F16 community back in the days of Falcon 4.0 when Microprose went belly up and its source code was leaked and you got the OpenFalcon, FreeFalcon/RedViper, BMS projects which were all free except you had to own the original Falcon 4.0 CD. Allied Force (you had to purchase) by Lead Pursuit/Atari was a collection of stolen work done by the previous teams mentioned for a quick cash grab by Atari who bought the ip's for Microprose and didnt last too long as the community went underground and ignored the C&D issued by LP and said a big F*****U, Sadly now there is only BMS team left.
The TM Warthog was released when ED had Lock on Modern Air Combat and Flaming Cliffs then merged and developed DCS and released their 1st A10 module and TM used the same stick as the cougar but shrank the base and created the new throttle.
Thustmasters uses hall sensors even in the t16000m (not in the twist stick, though). But the ball in the warthog is not as smooth as the cams that vipil has. I know, I own both.
Dino
??? What is Dino?
Bro...literally cannot figure out how to setup my cm3 and constellation within MSFS. Please tell me you have a video or somewhere I can figure it out. MSFS reads the hotas but literally nothing is bound. At least DCS it auto binds the basic stuff like throttle.
Msfs you have to bind manually
@@OverkillSimulations Yes but what do you bind to. the page is blank?
@@dreaux88what are you guys talking about? Once you have configured a profile in the Virpil software and made sure the firmware is up to date you then start adding assignments in MSFS, it’s not difficult and no one should assume every game or sim has presets for every controller device out there.
Now, what do you mean the page is blank? Of course it’s going to be if you haven’t added anything to the device yet. If the device is showing at the top search for an assignment and add it.
I can do most everything you talk about with my Thrust master HOTAS X!!! It's a whole lot less complicated and less stressful......
I will admit there was a learning curve with the configuration software
I had that stick, and you couldn’t make me go back to it after having Virpil gear and there’s no problem with setting it up, there’s just more choice.
Just got the new VKB Gladiator NXT EVO!!
I've been looking at this set for like 2 months. They were always on back order. I give up and order the warthog yesterday. Now you posted this video and I see them in stock on the site. UGH :(
Cancel it... :) trust me... I was loyal to the hawg for 6 years... you'll be much much happier with this setup
The VIRPIL products are hands down a far superior product. Plus the customer support is way better as well. Trust me!
If you still can, cancel that order or return. Virpil products are always in back order, because they are made to order! Depending on where you live, expect to receive a Virpil in about 2-3 weeks. It is soo worth it
They have a new distributor now. Shipping in 2 to 4 weeks
Very Overkill for MSFS, better with a cheap collective and yoke system
Virpil fanboy🤣
I am now :) I'll accept that. I'm impressed