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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 มิ.ย. 2024
- I was invited by Square Enix to check out FFXIV Dawntrail early, and here's how Viper plays and what my first impressions of it were!
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0:00 Intro
1:13 How It Works
7:04 More Info & My Thoughts
7:46 Tooltips
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Monk and Dragoon had a baby and that baby says fuck you if your ping is high
* *cries in brazil's ping* *
Cousin Alex says hi
@@mrhazeck6084 NoClippy solves that
It looks intense and fun, but holy fuck the mandatory double weaves might just kill me, especially with the monk/samurai attack speed buff
I thought machinist killed your fingers while weaving richochet during overheat, but for viper you can't even hold the ogcd's for a better time, just HIT EVERY BUTTON
Though upkeeping 3 buffs at once does sound like fun
*laughs in Noclippy*
Having the Gunbreaker Ready system used in this class was a good move.
Yeah it is nice to not have to map 100 skills on your skill bars
I'd love to see RDM's melee combo having this too
Subscribed because you put an on screen view of what the skills combo into, helped a lot!
I feel like it's going to make a lot more sense once we have it in our hands. Also, I'm amazed they didn't call the Serpent's Ire Gauge the Venom Gauge.
Ima call it the venom gauge because it just makes sense lol
Super jazzed to see you got this opportunity Rinon. Thanks for all the info!!!
This is how the 1000 year war started between the RAT combo faction and COIL combo faction.
looking forward to play both new jobs, thank you so much for covering all of them!!
Thank you for covering viper. This really helped me understand the job better.
You did so good with these videos Rinon. Good job!
Gotta say I'm on board with Viper now.
Was worried that all skills except for the last hit in Reawaken were single target, luckily the tooltips at the end proved me wrong lol. Great video!
Vpr’s gonna be so busted in aoe if those potencies stay the same. Full burst aoe with no fall-off OwO
I really love the aesthetics of both new jobs. Probably my favourite of any new dps they've added
So this is essentially our second "greedy" melee DPS job as it has no raid buff?
Correct
Apparently its even "greedier" than the alternatives because apparently every single button (save for the gap closer) is damage oriented, and forgoes even a simple defensive self buff that even the other jobs have (Third Eye for SAM, Manaward for BLM, etc.)
Job looks like it's going to be very busy, looking forward to trying it out!
Can't wait to get my hands on viper. Started playing FFXIV because of her!
even though i'm not the best and most reliable player due to a disability, i've been waiting for this class and can't wait to play it!
it seems a little complicated to play, but somehow it also looks like a lot of fun. I will definitely play the viper and if I play the only solo and for me. dawntrail will offer so much to discover, i hardly notice when i play shit ;)
See you in the harbor!
Didn’t catch it in this video but how does your burst look? Is there a way to fill 50 gauge at start for buffs window?
Yeah, you have a 2 min cd that allows you to enter burst without gauge (it also gives you 1 rat stack)
Along with the information above, most jobs this expansion don't have skills that raise their gauges by 50 anymore (like Red Mage, Machinist, Reaper, etc.). Instead, SE now makes it so those skills were repurposed to allow a free spending of what originally used up your gauge. So for example, Machinist's Barrel Stabilizer no longer increases the heat gauge by 50, but instead allows a free use of Hypercharge. There's only the occasional odd duck this expansion that did not receive this QOL feature in their kits (Warrior, Samurai to name a few). But like is said in all these videos, this is an early build & not an accurate representation of the final build. It's just a sneak peak, so maybe the jobs that "forgot" this QOL may receive it down the line, maybe on day 1 or maybe not at all.
Dude... Viper looks so good... I'm gonna feel like Liu Bei and Cao Pi from Dynasty Warriors, Cao Pi when you put the blades together. YES! XD I can't wait to see the LB3, I love FFXIV
dont care if my ping is high, i will play this class
Honestly I don't think having a bad ping will be "too" much of a dps loss. Most of the ogcd's are single weaves between attacks and that wasn't the worst with machinist and richochet during overheat. Though it helps if your internet is stable, so you can play around the delay for actions. With unstable internet I guess you just get fucked
@@Ghoulicus to be fair, unstable internet is going to give you issues anyway. "Excuse me Mr Boss, Sir. Could you please stop crapping out AOE markers everywhere!?"
Honestly the only problem for me the main problem is fat fingering the weaves.
Just use NoClippy or Alexander
@@MrDarkBoy93 whats that?
@@aftertone3146 the best thing to ever happen to high ping players. alex is an application that injects into your client and starts up on game launch. noclippy is a plugin in the XIVlauncher (3rd party launcher) plugin hub. they both do the same thing but essentially eliminate heavy gcd/ogcd delay from latency. highly recommend using one even if you have average ping. completely changes your combat experience.
Your last point was me. I hope it PLAYS easier than the tooltips are to READ.
Welp. Im going to be using this and reaper A LOT
As a controller player thank you for this!
Weird to see what is essentially RPR deluxe when RPR itself failed to get any changes to evolve it in its own way. Viper certain looks fun at least, flashy if nothing else, and yeah, doesn't really entice me like Pictomancer does, but I'm excited to try it out.
i feel like they are running out of ideas for classes or it could the 2 min bursts format they really want to uphold that the root of the problem. i wonder what they do in 8.0 for class identity when reaper and viper both have a pretty similar identities.
Since we only have 3 ranged phys, next expansion, we SHOULD get a new ranged phys, but I thought the same with Reaper but then they added Viper too, so who even knows anymore.
@@williamkraut5849 Yoshi stated in an interview that they don't seperate the jobs via Melees/Phys.ranged/caster but via Melees/Ranged... if you think about it this way then there were 5 Melees vs 6 ranged in Endwalker. So it makes sense to get another melee from this perspective even tough I don't agree with summarizing casters and phys.ranged into one pig pot
I plan on maining dancer for this expansion but i will probably end up with Viper as a secondary cause it seems like a very fun class to play
How did it feel on controller did u set it up as each combo on each side or both on one
It’s very comfy on controller, I put the basic combo and gem spender on one side and the rest on the other and it worked o it very nicely
looks great but im suprised theres no poisen dot
feel like i'll need to play VPR to get it, cos those are really wordy tooltips x-x
Melee already scares me with its rotations (I came from WoW, not used to 500 buttons 😅) so this scares the hell out of me, though I’ll definitely give it a try
You dont need thr gauge to help u tbh, Viper has some smart system that'll have the hotbar light up for which ever buffs duration is lowest. So literally just look at your buttons and press whatever lights up.
I hope Ouroboros gets a follow up in 8.0 called "Global Saturation" huhuh :P
Complicated GCD rotation and whack-a-timer gameplay with burst windows? This sounds a lot like Heavensward NIN, in a way. That's a good thing in my book. Current NIN is very fun, don't get me wrong, but HW NIN was fun in a very different way, and I've kinda been wanting a job like that again.
Complicated? Probably not. It seems like it just plays like Dancer where you press the button the game tells you to.
@@Medbread To be fair it has the most total and most frequent positionals in the game, and they are always swapping back and forth. Monk doesn't even come close as both jobs have a positional every 3 GCDs, but Monk gets to stay at the flank for 11 GCDs and only move to the rear for a single Demolish. Viper constantly rotates between Flank and Rear every 6 seconds AND the twinblade combo (40s CD) has a gibbet/gallows style back-to-back positional requirement which also requires a double weave mid movement.
The combos aren't complicated since you are led through them and there's no perfect balance to mix things up, but god damn will you be fighting for your LIFE to maintain positional uptime on any boss that likes to turn around and walk to the center of the arena every 12 seconds.
did you manage to get a preview of the bstance and vpose?
We didn't have vpose and bpose unlocked in the Media Tour build unfortunately
@@RinBanana aww thats unfortunate... Q.Q
One of those stances is seen in the trailer. History would indicate it’s the victory stance, where he sticks one sword in the ground.
HOLY SHIT VIPER LOOKS INSANELY FUN
I decided to main viper the moment it was announced. I was like, "yep I'm on board, I don't need additional info I'm in."
How many Vipers are going to run the Serpentlord title, I wonder?
(I know I will be)
I'm one of the surprisingly few players who has The Serpentsworn, Serpentbringer and Serpentcarrier - also very good options!
I lived in Bozja for a month to get the "Sword of the South" title for Viper.
alright, this looks really bad ass, ngl
I’m an absolute SUCKER for Thunderclap and Icarus. I am so hype that Viper gets an enemy/friend dash, too.
The "noclippy or xivalex" job if your ping is anywhere over 100.
its a must have for anyone with bad ping tbh
But what to do when your ping is high and you play on console
@@Alvaromm27 You suffer
viper can have a little viper (as a treat)
i've watched like 5 of these viper guide vids and the only thing i've come to understand is that i need to play it for ANYTHING to make sense
yeah pretty much, the tooltips are very overwhelming but it's simple in action
This video could have literally been 10s long 'click the next shiny button'
Looking at the job descriptions, I like it.
It seems like an awfully simple job in terms of how much juggling of resources and upkeep you need to do, most of the time the upkeep and resources juggle themselves as long as you chain the combos properly.
What I really liked about it is each "skill" is more like a button rather than a skill, and you press the buttons in specific orders to go through your rotation as the buttons change in their behaviour depending on what is pressed before it. I like it, this feels like a dynamic system as it feels like pressing a combo sequence in a fighting game. In terms of job button feel, this feels like its going to be pretty fun.
Once you get the hang of the combo sequences and button sequences though, the job mechanics seems to be very straight forward. So in a sense, you can consider this like a "gimmick" job.
I do like this direction for how jobs go but they could try something more resource and timer upkeep in the future while adding different freedom of combo paths in the future.
Love how it looks. But I'm worried that it's gonna be like Sommoner. where I drop it because it was too boring. But i do consider it for my new main
@@markula382 true. As long it's fun to play. I guess that good enough.
@@markula382by the looks of it all jobs will be simple in DT tho, which sucks, because there are also people who want complex jobs.
Agreed. I hope the speed and all the weaves you have to do on a non-dummy target end up being challenging enough to keep it interesting
@@pryanik1337 Is there anything to suggest that? Even in this video, he mentions that picto is more complex than viper
@@Oppurtunafish as if it is takes a lot to be more complex than a viper. C'mon, that bar is way too low.
But I think nonexistence of complexity is the case at least in melee role. Like, the only thing left that can be fucked up by some mechanics and will require some actual planning is TCJ, which is really sad.
If only dash worked as DNC dash... without targeting
Vastly inferior to nin shukuchi, which is kinda sad
This is just endwalker monk but with the interesting parts replaced by Gunbreaker's combo
My brain is frying trying to understand this from the video. I'm just gonna have to run PotD a couple times to get the gist of it.
I hate that the same buttons change to different positionals. All the other melees, I've had flank positionals on the top row and rear positionals on the second row. With this system, I'm going to fail positionals constantly because it fights with my eyes' muscle memory.
Indeed, im so used to having all the positionals on d-pad left and/or right and down, and i push them only when have to. With this im scared that im gonna watch the action bar the whole fight to see when they change to positionals and therefore miss most of the boss aoe. But have to wait and try it myself, it might be good also.
As a guy who plays a lot of NIN I was kinda bummed to see how simple and forward this job is. I guess it being "fast" is the sacrifice for utility and stuff but it feels more like Melee MCH where you just kinda hit your buttons and call it a day. I'll be curious to see what I think when I get my hands on it but coming off of Mudras, Ninki, Huton, etc management just going "hit buttons in order" isn't really what I was hoping for from the second scouting class. :/
personally, i saw this coming considering the direction the game has been taken these past few years. everything has been made easier and more accessibe to newer players
@pizzaaFAEN the reason this doesn't really work is if you look at picto it has plenty going on so as much as people like to be doomer about it I just don't agree.
@@DarianAntilles its not just classes/jobs, its the game in general that has been made easier. just look at the last few expansions and the overall mechanics that has been dummed down for general players. most of the jobs are pretty easy too. you can even go back as recent as shadowbringers to see this. take dancer for exaple, easy. gunbreaker is a tank so not really all that complex. then you have endwalker with reaper which is easy af, with sage only being slightly difficult. now you have viper, which looks to be easy mode, and picto being slightly more comlicated. like its not an opinion to say that the game is easier, its a fact.
@@pizzaaFAENOkay, and why is an accessible game not desirable? You’re acting as if 90% of the player base is clearing ultimates because of the ease of rotations. Or would you prefer EVERYONE be bound to The Balance, reading spreadsheets on how they can gain .5% more DPS if they cast X spell or use Y potion at the 16-second mark of a pull? What is it you desire more from an MMO, a vast player base with all sorts of individuals, or a game where you bust your ass endlessly to unlock cosmetics/titles just to get “nice” from like two people while you AFK in Limsa?
This. I'm with this comment.@@BLKM4NTI5
I dont know why players dont use jog gears in game, its looks great, all of it.
Is this high ping friendly? :/
I just noticed. How are there holes in the job emblems design? Aren’t certain people gonna have problem with that just how it was for Sage before they changed it?
you are thinking of trypophobia. any random hole isnt going to trigger this phobia. it needs to be in a specific pattern to trigger. ALSO! DO NOT SEARCH IT UP IF YOU THINK YOU HAVE IT!
So ... if I wanted to play a Viper, since I can't get access to this until level 80, I would have to play a class I might not like until then? I wonder why they do this? I assume there is a very good reason to lock certain classes behind levels but it escapes me.
These classes tend to be balanced around their higher levels. The idea is that you're going to play them to take them into the most recent expansion. As a new player, it's much better for you to start with a more basic class so you can understand the way the game works.
Viper looks really interesting, but I'm not a fan of all eight of those GCDs being on two buttons.
It's great as an option but I'd much prefer the option of having them all seperate since it works better for me
I agree, I'm not the hugest fan on the 1-2-3 combo but everything else is super fun
I'm pretty sure you have the option to separate them into different buttons now.
The Better Ninja ngl
:( i was hoping for a bit more complexity. It was one i was really excited to be my new main after just hovering between melee in EW but it doesn't look like it was much to it
It looks like Miguel Spiderverse
Or.maybe Prowler
Viper just seems so uninspired compared to Pictomancer, nothing says generic skill like literally adding the positional + the word strike to name it.
Should have been Corsair!
I wish Reaper had something like Viper Sight. I hate having to stare at my buffs / hotkeys to remind myself which scythe skill is up next.
fastest class in the game, but still enough time to make lunch, poop, and walk the dog before the next attack.
they don't call you quick finisher for nothin'
@@RinBanana you misspelled multitasker
Eh, not sure I like having four different gauge things to keep track of, or the job's apparently incessant need to be firing things off or your whole rotation plummets (because mechanics can and will stop you cold). I think I may have over-estimated how much I was going to like Viper if it's going to be such an erratic mess.
So it's for people who wanted rogue, specifically, not ninja. :D
I am just happy we finally get another DPS Job using swords for people who are not into Samurai...
Honestly, the one thing that has always bugged me is that all the good sword classes, the sword and shield, the Zweihänder, and the Gunblade are for some weird reason Tanks, and the only DPS Option is the Weeb Class that isnt even accurate to how a Samurai would do Battle, using a Decorative Status Symbol as a weapon...
Please make a video about #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE
I'm thinking of replacing monk with this as my dps class. Since monk was reworked it's become a boring job. The only issue that monk ever had was a lack of a ranged ability. Every other class has at least one. Except monk. 😢. It's sad because I've been playing monk since the ARR beta
@@lucanastral735 what level do we get the ranges abilities?
From what I can tell this job is perfect for me. Too bad it's a very high level unlock, it's gonna take me ages to get to it
If you're still progressing MSQ do your levelling roulette every day as well while progressing the story. You'll outpace the MSQ level bracket pretty quickly and could probably swap to Viper well before finishing Shadowbringers. I know people in my FC who hit max level on their main job long before catching up on MSQ.
@@michaelmulholland6679 I'm still doing arr msq lol. I started only a couple weeks back
Wait, does this job have any form of mitigation? Bro, even black mage have a shield
I really don't like it cuz the enjoyment factor solely lies in your healers, which is not a great design.
I was seeing someone say because of the fast pace at which Viper seems to attack, Bloodbath could come in clutch. Not mitigation, but it'll be interesting to see if that's truly how it's going to work out.
I’m a little bummed that viper is so easy. I do like the speed of it.