My video sources were too long for the TH-cam description word count, so here they are in a comment instead: The Catholic Source Book (Pages 238-241): www.amazon.com/Catholic-Source-Book-Peter-Klein/dp/0159018838 Mathew 28 (Go therefore and make disciples): www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_decl_19651207_dignitatis-humanae_en.html Discorso Di Sua Santità Pio PP. XII Ad Un Gruppo Di Membri Della (To be Christian one must be Roman): www.vatican.va/content/pius-xii/en/speeches/1957/documents/hf_p-xii_spe_19571008_pellegrinaggio-irlanda.html The International Theological Commission “The Interpretation of Dogma” #2 (The Church is indefectible): www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/cti_documents/rc_cti_1989_interpretazione-dogmi_en.html 1 Corinthians 12 (Paul’s Body of Christ): bible.usccb.org/bible/1corinthians/12 Rites vs. churches: www.catholic.com/qa/difference-between-rite-and-particular-church Code of Canons of the Eastern Churches 27 (What a Sui Iuris Church is): www.intratext.com/X/ENG1199.HTM Dicastery for the Eastern Churches (not referenced in the script but neat): www.vatican.va/content/romancuria/en/dicasteri/dicastero-chiese-orientali/profilo.html Code of Canon Law 368 (What a particular Church is): www.vatican.va/archive/cod-iuris-canonici/eng/documents/cic_lib2-cann368-430_en.html#:~:text=368%20Particular%20churches%2C%20in%20which,apostolic%20administration%20erected%20in%20a Code of Canon Law #372 (Rites as causes for particular churches to overlap): www.vatican.va/archive/cod-iuris-canonici/eng/documents/cic_lib2-cann368-430_en.html
Code of Canons of the Eastern Churches Canon 28 (What a rite is): www.intratext.com/X/ENG1199.HTM Catechism of the Catholic Church 1203 (the seven liturgical rites of the Church): www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p2s1c2a2.htm#1200 Liturgy - Catholic Encyclopedia (Rosary not part of a rite, while liturgy is): www.newadvent.org/cathen/09306a.htm National Catholic Register (Pope Francis using the title “Patriarch of the West”): www.ncregister.com/news/patriarch-of-the-west-pope-francis-heads-forward-into-the-past CNEWA “Pentarchy” (The Five Patriarchates): cnewa.org/pentarchy-50899 The Eastern Christian Churches by Ronald Roberson: cnewa.org/eastern-christian-churches/the-catholic-eastern-churches/ Catholic Encyclopedia - Eastern Churches: www.newadvent.org/cathen/05230a.htm Our Lady of Purgatory Maronite Catholic Church (Antiochene tradition can encompass Maronites) www.ourladyofpurgatory.org/are-maronites-catholic/ East-Syrian Rite: www.newadvent.org/cathen/14413a.htm Nativity of the Mother of God Ukrainian Catholic Church (Antiochene tradition can encompass Byzantine/Constantinople) nativityukr.org/who_we_are/rites_chart.html USCCB (The Eastern Churches in the Middle East): www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/human-life-and-dignity/global-issues/middle-east/who-are-catholics-in-the-middle-east Diocese of St. Petersburg Eastern Catholic Churches Article: www.dosp.org/chancellor/directory/eastern-catholic-churches/ Had to make some use of wikipedia to clarify some things, but the book resource above and other websites were also used: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_particular_churches_and_liturgical_rites Pope Francis (2015 Installation Document of the Eritrean Catholic Church): www.vatican.va/content/francesco/la/apost_constitutions/documents/papa-francesco_costituzione-ap_20150119_ecclesia-metropolitana-asmarensis.html The Latin (Roman) Rite’s parts: www.usccb.org/prayer-and-worship/the-mass/order-of-mass St. Michael’s Byzantine Catholic Church (“Divine Liturgy” not “Mass”, and “mysteries” not sacraments): stmichaelsbyzantine.com/liturgy-schedule-and-holy-days/welcome-visitors/ Eastern Rites: A Family Tree (This article is a bit dated and has to be filtered through the current legislative situation, but the historical info is really helpful): www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/eastern-rites-a-family-tree-11126 The Eparchy of Parma Map (The diocesan territory of this Byzantine Catholic Church): parma.org/eparchy Code of Canon Law #1248 (Any rite satisfies the Sunday obligation): www.vatican.va/archive/cod-iuris-canonici/eng/documents/cic_lib4-cann1244-1253_en.html#CHAPTER_I. Byzantine fasting: parma.org/the-divine-liturgy www.fortpiercebyzantine.com/about-the-fast Ascension Press: The Eastern Catholic Churches (I had to pull in this series to clear up initiation rules and languages): media.ascensionpress.com/2019/02/05/the-eastern-catholic-churches-part-2-the-armenian-rite/ media.ascensionpress.com/2019/02/19/the-eastern-catholic-churches-part-3-the-alexandrian-rite/ media.ascensionpress.com/2019/03/19/the-other-23-catholic-churches-part-5-west-syrian-rite/ CNEWA “Eastern Rite Sacraments”: cnewa.org/magazine/eastern-rite-sacraments-30094/ Great Lent/ Holy Week at St Sharbels (Maronite Fasting): www.stsharbel.org/2016/01/great-lent-holy-week-at-st-sharbels/#:~:text=Fasting%20in%20the%20Maronite%20Church,fast%20on%20these%20two%20days. The Importance of Syriac (Maronites and Language): www.stsharbel.org/the-importance-of-syriac/ WHAT LANGUAGE DID JESUS SPEAK? GREEK? ARAMAIC? HEBREW? ALL OF THE ABOVE? (Jesus speaking Aramaic): www.bartehrman.com/what-language-did-jesus-speak/ Syriac Language: gedsh.bethmardutho.org/Syriac-Language
As a Latin in ethnicity and Rite , I pray for the expansion in nunbers of all Easterners , their preservation of the traditions they hold since the times of the Apostles who became fathers of their nations and their endurance in the Faith of Christ .
The implication you are making is that we are somehow less persecuted than the east. NOT ANYMORE. As of this very day, the east no longer has a monopoly on Catholic persecution...Change My Mind...
It is absolutely mindblowing how informative and high quality your videos are. As someone in an extremely tense position, looking between Catholicism, EO, and OO, you have been a guiding light. May the Lord, our God, bless you for your work.
Ukrainian Catholic ❤ Honestly, I love Latin rite as much as the Byzantine rite, if we consider each of them expressed in the most beautiful way. It's so great to feel that you're a part of the whole universal Church in it's diversity, and can call any catholic from any of those 23 sui iuris churches your brother or sister in faith, since we are one😊
do orthodox people in ukraine look down upon catholics? or are we all seen as brothers and sisters in christ. i hope you don’t find my question offensive im just curious
@@justwilliam4802 Thanks for the question! Unfortunately, I don't think can describe the objective state of affairs in this regard, because a) there are no Orthodox people among my relatives, b) I live in Western Ukraine where the vast majority of Christians are Greek or Latin Catholics, and c) I haven't familiarized myself with orthodox-catholic relationship in Ukraine as a whole. However, in my opinion, just like in any other community, there is a variety of attitudes to the same issue among members. Some might be more friendly, while others keep their distance. I have heard that UGCC has been putting considerable effort to achieve some success in ecumenical issues, particularly with the Orthodox, and sometimes even proposed quite radical unifying actions, but so far, it seems to me, results were not overwhelming. Of course, some movement to unity is observed, like in the world in general, but nothing radical. And this is overall good. I don't know what ideas have been put forward by the Orthodox. Anyway, that's my little answer to your question :) Personally, I hold the view that you described - that we are indeed brothers and sisters in Christ, but I also would really like these Orthodox brethren of mine to experience the fullness of God's revelation in the Holy Catholic Church. Have a blessed day!
I just discovered your channel, and I think this is the best catechesis channel yet! Simple, in depth, and engaging. Shame you don’t have more subscribers
BEAUTIFUL VIDEO!!! I felt like the wait was very long but it was worthwhile. It is incredible to see the diversity within the ONE FAITH. You did an amazing job at your explanations of such a complex topic. Looking forward to future videos and going to watch past ones as well.
No they won't. One of my fellow parishioners attended the Byzantine Rite for the first time and he genuflected when he entered the church. A person approached him instantly, 'You must be Roman.' The parishioner conveyed this story to me in jest as if he was chided by them and using humor with me as a coping mechanism. I instantly became indignant and I defended my Latin Rite. I asked him, "Could you ever think of Never kneeling to Our LORD Jesus Christ exposed in the monstrance in the adoration chapel?" He was struck and answered pensively, 'No.' "It's our tradition for our heads to touch the floor in the presence of God in the adoration chapel. I love my unleavened bread." I said. "I met my first Greek Orthodox monk in my early twenties and I was giddy to talk to him. He asked me if I was Catholic. The moment I said yes, he fiercely screamed at me at the top of his lungs,'Our liturgy is of St. John Chrysostom and is much older than yours!' He saw my face fall from instantly shattering my heart. He couldn't even look at me and he stared at the floor the whole time he was near me in the hardware store." The parishoner was convicted and didn't say a word.
@@matthewvelazquez2013There's a lot to unpack here. Just because their tradition is different, doesn't mean ours is better and that Jesus is offended they don't kneel or genuflect. Also, just because one parishioner at one parish was somewhat rude, doesn't mean that the rest in that parish are like that, let alone in all the other rites. From your comment I am getting a feeling of "holier than thou" and sense of pride in the Latin rite that is not healthy.
@@anastasijahrsak5751 not true. The Latin Rite is not national, it's international. The Latin Rite is not limited to a specific diaspora of people behind a language barrier. The Eastern rites are national, and are truly limited to a specific diaspora of people behind a language barrier. The Universality of the Latin Rite is true. The nationalistic and ethnocentric Eastern rites are much less Univesal than the Latin Rite. The Latin Rite is #1. All the other Eastern rites in the Catholic church are tied for second place.
@@matthewvelazquez2013 The Eastern Rites are not national, if you are Catholic you can attend any one of them. Latin churches have language barriers too, they might occupy the same churches but it's very possible for English mass-goers to never interact with say, Spanish mass-goers because their masses are at different place. You call the Eastern Rites nationalistic and ethnocentric yet display Latin Supremacy. Are you saying St. Mark, St. John Chrysostom, St. Basil, St. James, St. Thomas created an inferior rite??? C'mon.
@@UnionSince452 That’s a good example of how examples matter, as my question was on the original commenters language. Maronites have been in communion with Rome from their origins, but with influence since the Crusades, in comparison to Ukrainians and others who came back into communion. For the original commenter to say “heavily NO influenced” is really confusing given Rome specifically *in and since Vatican II* has denounced latinization, and latinization was a problem the Council sought to resolve. Notably with Pope St John Paul The Greats encyclical Orientale Lumen, he also called for prayer and contrition on the part of the Latin Church regarding latinization as such - and for the Eastern Churches to follow through with acting on Orientalium Ecclesiarium and the authority and dignity it affirmed. I’m a Melkite, I’ve not been to Maronite Liturgy but I’ve heard some parishes the priest isn’t ad orientum.
@@NGAOPC I never said the Latinization was intentional or that it's not currently discouraged, but the reality means that the latinizations to remain there till this day. Rosary, adoration, stations of the cross - all good things, but not ours.
@@dp34576 I should have just asked specifically what you meant by specifying “NO influenced” but no, my comment was to the confusion of the specific phraseology of “NO influenced”. Latinization as such was a problem before Novus Ordo Mass - Vatican II, the same counsel that produced the current Novus Ordo Roman Mass also sought in Orientalium Ecclesiarium to end latinization (which was at times clearly deliberate), in the Eastern Churches and the perceptions behind it; there was not therefore something “Novus Ordo” about latinization, just the opposite.
Very informative. Eastern Catholic churches are few are far between. But there are a number of Eastern Orthodox churches in major cities. That's the reality. Catholic converts from E.O. like myself end up going to the Roman Catholic church, but I wish there were other options to help us.
@@starchysocks what caused you to convert? And in chicago there’s like 25-35 orthodox churches, but technically not 1 Eastern Catholic Church. Although 2 outside of the city
@@randomjake1488 It's a difficult story to share. I haven't formally converted. A better explanation is I am being recognized as being from the Eastern Church and thus I can participate in the sacraments. But I find myself in-between both and struggle with it.
@@starchysocks thanks for sharing. Keeping you in my prayers and that our Lord, through our mother Mary, will give you great joy and blessings and keep you always close to Him
God bless you. Many EO considering conversion to Catholicism are hesitant because they would have to (at least temporarily) participate in Roman liturgies. I will pray that Eastern Catholicism spreads further
I say this somewhat tongue in cheek realizing it's probably not realistic, but consider moving to Pennsylvania. There are plenty of Eastern-Rite/Byzantine Catholic churches there, mostly of the Carpatho-Rusyn/Ruthenian and Ukrainian varieties.
@gilbertwalker6769 That is a good point, there is a "Saint Photius the Martyr" who died in the 300's, vs. Photius Bishop of Constantinople who lives in the 800's.
@@CatechesisVidsHe's wrong. Please stop the wishful thinking, look up the Melkite horologion for Feb 6 and see who is referenced there. It's prideful to refuse to admit you're wrong and childish too
As I was writing this video, I realized I couldn't encompass everything and turned it into a video about just the eastern rites; I'd like to return and just talk about the latin liturgical traditions at some point.
The Neocatechumenal way is an apostolate; it doesn't have license to adapt the Roman Rite into any special liturgy shape beyond the ordinary ritual laws of the Latin church used in every Roman parish setting.
The division of the new Mass of Paul VI into the liturgy of the word and Eucharist is modern and does not date before 1970. I note you did not mention the historic Roman Rite or the variations or different usages such as Lyon and Mozarabic Rites.
I'd like to do a deep dive on the whole "latin" category of rites and traditions, but the video was long enough just focusing on the east. The liturgy of the word and the liturgy of the eucharist may be modern terminology, but they are not modern categories as such. The proclamation of the word followed by the eucharistic prayers is an ancient delineation, hence why historically catechumens were dismissed half way through the service.
Prior to Vatican II the Rites up to the Offertory were referred to by Liturgists (and you can find it also in Laypeople's missals) the Mass of the Catechumens or the Foremass or Mass of the Faithful . From the Offertory on was known as the Mass of the Eucharist. These terms have changed over the centuries, and the name or descriptions depend on which Liturgists you read. Most are familiar with Fr. Fortescue and Fr. O'Connell who were popular liturgists among English speakers. While I have several editions of both of their books on the Mass, up to 1962 I also have manuals and books by French, German, Italian and Spanish Liturgists going back to the 1600s (The book themselves, some were reprinted from earlier Liturgists. I also have Mozarabic, Parisian, and Ambrosian Missals as well as several other Uses of Religious Orders such as the Dominican, Carthusian, and Carmelite Uses which differed from the Roman Rite. The one thing that remains is that one did not hear of and does not hear of the Two parts of the Mass being a separate rite, just what the focus of each part is. An example of variations before and After the Council of Trent (just sticking with the Roman Rite) is that the Prayers at the Foot of the Altar and Last Gospel were not part of the Mass before the reforms of Trent. They were recited, but they were private prayers said by the priest and sanctuary party (Deacon and Sub-Deacon in Solemn Masses and the priest and acolytes in low mass) This is why in the TLM the priest after kissing the altar goes to the Missal at the Epistle side and makes the sign of the cross when he reads or chants the Introit. Prior to Trent it was the official start of the Mass. The Last Gospel was a private devotion of the priest who would recite it on his way back to the Sacristy. His genuflection was a sign that he was not an Aryian Heretic. One additional error you will hear among some who have been taught by groups like the SSPX and Sede Vacantist groups is that the Canon was never touched from the time of Pope St. Gregory the Great. The truth is (and some of my Altar Missals from the 1560s to the early 1800s include mention of the Holy Roman Emperor or the King or Queen after the commemoration of the Pope, always after the Pope but sometimes before other times after the Ordinary and all bishops. Local saints and Founders of Religious orders are sometimes found added to the Canon too. So the Church while maintaining tradition is not as absolute as some claim.
Having met Patriarch Sviatoslav of the Ukrainians, the West's continued disrespect for the Ukrainian Church by persisting in using a title foreign to the East is especially insulting during these hard days.
@@CatechesisVids Major Archbishop. No Orthodox Church uses that title. Bishops who head a Church are either Archbishops, Metropolitans, or Patriarchs.
@@dp34576it's not natural title. Cardinal is a title only for latins, yet eastern bishops can receive. But it won't mean much to their community since it's foreign title
It's a tricky issue. I went to Mass at an eastern liturgy a few months ago, and was surprised the liturgy celebrated Palmas. It was a difficult issue since he was so revered in the East, but Rome ultimately decided to approve his cult relatively recently (in the 70's maybe? Don't quote me on that). Someone like Photius on the other hand, would be really scandalous to venerate, and he's not approved for veneration in eastern liturgy in union with Rome.
Yes, approved. In the normal process, a person goes from servant of God, to blessed, to saint - each with particular levels of public veneration offered to them. Eastern Catholicism is a reunification with Rome from a previous lack of communion, and obviously they would generate their own saints over time. The problem is, these holy figures are sometimes chosen as examples not of virtue but of vice - as with Photius and his opposition to Rome. It's understandable then, why Rome needed to weigh the sincerity of a cult like that of Palmas due to the context in which he lived and was venerated.
Maybe in classical latin, but in ecclesiastical latin iuris would be pronounced differently. global.oup.com/us/companion.websites/9780190246778/student/church/#:~:text=e%20is%20pronounced%20as%20in,ohm%2Dnee%2Dah).
I think Syro Malankara should come under Alexandrian West Syriac tradition - as the liturgy was developed from within the Syriac Orthodox Patrimony which is within the Alexandrian school.
8:09 I think you have a brief error in the video, you say " the sacrifice of jesus christ is presented and turns blood and wine into the body and blood of christ." I think you meant bread and wine into the body and blood!
11:00 There is also the Eparchy of Parma for the UGCC the catherdrals are down the street from one another. The UGCC goes by "Eparchy of St Josephat, Parma"
One could not properly speaking refer to Eastern Catholics as Orthodox (except as an adjective). Eastern Orthodox is a specific splinter of Christianity, and is not the same thing as either Oriental Orthodox or Eastern Catholic. th-cam.com/video/t9rPjdwwOnQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=y8M8Cg3COHJ0dNw1
I love my Eastern Catholic Brothers and Sisters, but their’s only 18 million Eastern Catholics of the 1.4 billion in the world. They’re an absolute ultra ultra minority. If you love their liturgy and history, why not just be what the Easter Catholic broke away from, the Orthodox?
@@CatechesisVids We are erroneous and false, yet have a valid clergy, bishops and patriarchs, apostolic succession, Eucharist, and faithfully serve 300 million Orthodox Christians? We believe the Catholic Church has fallen away, even eastern Catholics don’t affirm Vatican 1 etc.. I’ve been convinced that the Orthodox has the fullness of the truth.
@@CatechesisVids anyways, I hope you and your followers stay true to the faith and don’t fall away as I’ve seen all of my Catholic friends and family have my entire life, even as I worked for the Catholic Church. Maybe the Eastern rite will prevail, but I don’t think 18 million EC’s of the 1.4 billion can maintain the whole church.
Each and every ecumenical council, including Vatican I and II, is binding on all Catholics of whatever rite. The Eastern Orthodox are materially heretical via the refusal to accept trinitarian doctrine, papal primacy, Jesus' teachings on divorce, etc. We can praise God in some measure that they have not been cut off totally from the sacramental life (save marriage and baptism) as have been the Lutherans or Anglicans.
The "infallible" Pope teaches to be Catholic you must be Roman but also teaches the Roman catholic church is the universal church While the Eastern Orthodox Saints teach that its is wrong to say you must be Eastern to be Orthodox.
Anyone who in communion with the Roman Catholic Church Belive the pope is the Supreme patriarch. Where your patriarch is is what church you are. Members of the Russian church or ROCOR are Russian orthodox becaues they are under the authority of the Russian Patriarchal, Greek thing. But Eastern Catholic are under the authority of Roman there your patriarchs can not act separately like us in the orthodox church can.
In part I like it because it's sort of thematic since the intent is to make videos that present material which is "black and white", which is to say "objective". But mostly I just like how it looks; the design reminds me of a blackboard with white chalk. All that said, my next video after this one uses color by necessity - as you'll see probably next month.
James could have been Jesus' brother by Joseph if Joseph had a first wife; there are a lot of possibilities compatible with the doctrine of Mary's perpetual virginity.
@@CatechesisVids St. Joseph didn't have a first wife. I believe the Church accepts that he was a virgin- perhaps a consecrated virgin in today's term- and would not have had a first wife. Mary was also a consecrated virgin prior to the Annunciation. She and Joseph would have had a celibate marriage. Of course they did after all, anyway. The Church also accepts that James was a cousin as was Jude. In that time a man's cousin was referred to as his brother, a cultural thing.
I don't know of any such tradition on St. Joseph's perpetual virginity prior to marrying Mary, but I would be curious if you have more details. Certainly the blessed mother herself (along with Joseph) would have had a celibate union that was miraculously fruitful in the person of Christ - and both Joseph and Mary would not have had relations. While I don't know of any tradition of prior virginity on the part of St. Joseph, the Church regards St. Joseph's holiness as tertiary to Jesus and Mary; he is considered more holy than any of the other saints.
It's not a contest, and the TLM is not a rite. It is an old form of the Roman rite. Furthermore, have you experienced worship in the other rites? If not, how do you know which is the best? The church is Catholic, universal, and our diversity in worshipping Christ and unity in faith is beautiful.
@@jasmineandrose123 I have experienced the byzantine rite, the Maronite rite as well and have seen the coptic and the Syro-malankara rite. I agree it is not a contest and all of these forms are the real and only Mass, but I double down, the TLM is the most beautiful and the one that has had the biggest consequences on humanity as a whole as well as the biggest impact and the best fruits. It is not old, it is eternal, it is not a rite, it is THE rite, the original one of the roman church, MOTHER OF ALL CHURCHES.
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My video sources were too long for the TH-cam description word count, so here they are in a comment instead:
The Catholic Source Book (Pages 238-241): www.amazon.com/Catholic-Source-Book-Peter-Klein/dp/0159018838
Mathew 28 (Go therefore and make disciples): www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_decl_19651207_dignitatis-humanae_en.html
Discorso Di Sua Santità Pio PP. XII Ad Un Gruppo Di Membri Della (To be Christian one must be Roman): www.vatican.va/content/pius-xii/en/speeches/1957/documents/hf_p-xii_spe_19571008_pellegrinaggio-irlanda.html
The International Theological Commission “The Interpretation of Dogma” #2 (The Church is indefectible): www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/cti_documents/rc_cti_1989_interpretazione-dogmi_en.html
1 Corinthians 12 (Paul’s Body of Christ): bible.usccb.org/bible/1corinthians/12
Rites vs. churches: www.catholic.com/qa/difference-between-rite-and-particular-church
Code of Canons of the Eastern Churches 27 (What a Sui Iuris Church is): www.intratext.com/X/ENG1199.HTM
Dicastery for the Eastern Churches (not referenced in the script but neat): www.vatican.va/content/romancuria/en/dicasteri/dicastero-chiese-orientali/profilo.html
Code of Canon Law 368 (What a particular Church is): www.vatican.va/archive/cod-iuris-canonici/eng/documents/cic_lib2-cann368-430_en.html#:~:text=368%20Particular%20churches%2C%20in%20which,apostolic%20administration%20erected%20in%20a
Code of Canon Law #372 (Rites as causes for particular churches to overlap): www.vatican.va/archive/cod-iuris-canonici/eng/documents/cic_lib2-cann368-430_en.html
Code of Canons of the Eastern Churches Canon 28 (What a rite is): www.intratext.com/X/ENG1199.HTM
Catechism of the Catholic Church 1203 (the seven liturgical rites of the Church): www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p2s1c2a2.htm#1200
Liturgy - Catholic Encyclopedia (Rosary not part of a rite, while liturgy is): www.newadvent.org/cathen/09306a.htm
National Catholic Register (Pope Francis using the title “Patriarch of the West”): www.ncregister.com/news/patriarch-of-the-west-pope-francis-heads-forward-into-the-past
CNEWA “Pentarchy” (The Five Patriarchates): cnewa.org/pentarchy-50899
The Eastern Christian Churches by Ronald Roberson: cnewa.org/eastern-christian-churches/the-catholic-eastern-churches/
Catholic Encyclopedia - Eastern Churches: www.newadvent.org/cathen/05230a.htm
Our Lady of Purgatory Maronite Catholic Church (Antiochene tradition can encompass Maronites) www.ourladyofpurgatory.org/are-maronites-catholic/
East-Syrian Rite: www.newadvent.org/cathen/14413a.htm
Nativity of the Mother of God Ukrainian Catholic Church (Antiochene tradition can encompass Byzantine/Constantinople) nativityukr.org/who_we_are/rites_chart.html
USCCB (The Eastern Churches in the Middle East): www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/human-life-and-dignity/global-issues/middle-east/who-are-catholics-in-the-middle-east
Diocese of St. Petersburg Eastern Catholic Churches Article: www.dosp.org/chancellor/directory/eastern-catholic-churches/
Had to make some use of wikipedia to clarify some things, but the book resource above and other websites were also used: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_particular_churches_and_liturgical_rites
Pope Francis (2015 Installation Document of the Eritrean Catholic Church): www.vatican.va/content/francesco/la/apost_constitutions/documents/papa-francesco_costituzione-ap_20150119_ecclesia-metropolitana-asmarensis.html
The Latin (Roman) Rite’s parts: www.usccb.org/prayer-and-worship/the-mass/order-of-mass
St. Michael’s Byzantine Catholic Church (“Divine Liturgy” not “Mass”, and “mysteries” not sacraments): stmichaelsbyzantine.com/liturgy-schedule-and-holy-days/welcome-visitors/
Eastern Rites: A Family Tree (This article is a bit dated and has to be filtered through the current legislative situation, but the historical info is really helpful): www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/eastern-rites-a-family-tree-11126
The Eparchy of Parma Map (The diocesan territory of this Byzantine Catholic Church): parma.org/eparchy
Code of Canon Law #1248 (Any rite satisfies the Sunday obligation): www.vatican.va/archive/cod-iuris-canonici/eng/documents/cic_lib4-cann1244-1253_en.html#CHAPTER_I.
Byzantine fasting: parma.org/the-divine-liturgy
www.fortpiercebyzantine.com/about-the-fast
Ascension Press: The Eastern Catholic Churches (I had to pull in this series to clear up initiation rules and languages):
media.ascensionpress.com/2019/02/05/the-eastern-catholic-churches-part-2-the-armenian-rite/
media.ascensionpress.com/2019/02/19/the-eastern-catholic-churches-part-3-the-alexandrian-rite/
media.ascensionpress.com/2019/03/19/the-other-23-catholic-churches-part-5-west-syrian-rite/
CNEWA “Eastern Rite Sacraments”: cnewa.org/magazine/eastern-rite-sacraments-30094/
Great Lent/ Holy Week at St Sharbels (Maronite Fasting): www.stsharbel.org/2016/01/great-lent-holy-week-at-st-sharbels/#:~:text=Fasting%20in%20the%20Maronite%20Church,fast%20on%20these%20two%20days.
The Importance of Syriac (Maronites and Language): www.stsharbel.org/the-importance-of-syriac/
WHAT LANGUAGE DID JESUS SPEAK? GREEK? ARAMAIC? HEBREW? ALL OF THE ABOVE? (Jesus speaking Aramaic): www.bartehrman.com/what-language-did-jesus-speak/
Syriac Language: gedsh.bethmardutho.org/Syriac-Language
Syro Malabar Catholic here!
Long live the Holy Catholic Church!! 🇻🇦🤍💛
syro malabar here too 💛🤍
I was once blessed to attend a Syro Malabar mass/liturgy. I was a bit lost but was beautiful.
As a Latin in ethnicity and Rite , I pray for the expansion in nunbers of all Easterners , their preservation of the traditions they hold since the times of the Apostles who became fathers of their nations and their endurance in the Faith of Christ .
Me too. I support and attend my local Melkite Greek Catholic Church✝️❤️☦️🇻🇦
The implication you are making is that we are somehow less persecuted than the east. NOT ANYMORE. As of this very day, the east no longer has a monopoly on Catholic persecution...Change My Mind...
Can't do that when latin church expanded to the east.
@@josephjacob3274 Now the Byzantines must expand in the West!😁
@luisrios3446 it already has, eastern orthodox apparently been bringing Protestants and new converts lately the past decade.
I am a syro malankara catholic. 😇
Ukrainian Catholic here. Love the Eastern rite. When I go to church, I FEEL like I’m in church.
Chaldean Catholic here! This video was extremely well done. I’m grateful we speak the language Jesus spoke in our liturgy
I felt comfortable at the Chaldean rite because I am semitic You know 7 ad
I love Eastern Catholicism
Well well well 🌲🎂
We love Pinesap
No you don't. You hate that we venerate St. Photios and Palamas
You hate Saint Palamas, keep coping.😂
Eastern Catholicism does not love you lol
very cool video. love from an Orthodox Christian ☦️
It is absolutely mindblowing how informative and high quality your videos are. As someone in an extremely tense position, looking between Catholicism, EO, and OO, you have been a guiding light. May the Lord, our God, bless you for your work.
Thank you for your comment, God bless your search.
Ukrainian Catholic ❤ Honestly, I love Latin rite as much as the Byzantine rite, if we consider each of them expressed in the most beautiful way. It's so great to feel that you're a part of the whole universal Church in it's diversity, and can call any catholic from any of those 23 sui iuris churches your brother or sister in faith, since we are one😊
do orthodox people in ukraine look down upon catholics? or are we all seen as brothers and sisters in christ. i hope you don’t find my question offensive im just curious
@@justwilliam4802 Thanks for the question! Unfortunately, I don't think can describe the objective state of affairs in this regard, because a) there are no Orthodox people among my relatives, b) I live in Western Ukraine where the vast majority of Christians are Greek or Latin Catholics, and c) I haven't familiarized myself with orthodox-catholic relationship in Ukraine as a whole.
However, in my opinion, just like in any other community, there is a variety of attitudes to the same issue among members. Some might be more friendly, while others keep their distance. I have heard that UGCC has been putting considerable effort to achieve some success in ecumenical issues, particularly with the Orthodox, and sometimes even proposed quite radical unifying actions, but so far, it seems to me, results were not overwhelming. Of course, some movement to unity is observed, like in the world in general, but nothing radical. And this is overall good. I don't know what ideas have been put forward by the Orthodox.
Anyway, that's my little answer to your question :) Personally, I hold the view that you described - that we are indeed brothers and sisters in Christ, but I also would really like these Orthodox brethren of mine to experience the fullness of God's revelation in the Holy Catholic Church. Have a blessed day!
@@romanpylypivua thank you that was very informative
Ukrainian Catholic here, I pray that our church grows, we have very few here in the Midwest
I just discovered your channel, and I think this is the best catechesis channel yet! Simple, in depth, and engaging. Shame you don’t have more subscribers
BEAUTIFUL VIDEO!!! I felt like the wait was very long but it was worthwhile. It is incredible to see the diversity within the ONE FAITH. You did an amazing job at your explanations of such a complex topic. Looking forward to future videos and going to watch past ones as well.
Thank you!
Extremely well made! Much love, brother. May God bless your ministry.
Hello from the Russian Greek Catholic Church.
Interesting, well-done and compact. Kudos and thank you, my brother.
I highly recommend everyone visit their local Eastern Catholic church and get to know the people there. They’ll welcome you with open arms!
No they won't. One of my fellow parishioners attended the Byzantine Rite for the first time and he genuflected when he entered the church. A person approached him instantly, 'You must be Roman.' The parishioner conveyed this story to me in jest as if he was chided by them and using humor with me as a coping mechanism. I instantly became indignant and I defended my Latin Rite. I asked him, "Could you ever think of Never kneeling to Our LORD Jesus Christ exposed in the monstrance in the adoration chapel?" He was struck and answered pensively, 'No.' "It's our tradition for our heads to touch the floor in the presence of God in the adoration chapel. I love my unleavened bread." I said. "I met my first Greek Orthodox monk in my early twenties and I was giddy to talk to him. He asked me if I was Catholic. The moment I said yes, he fiercely screamed at me at the top of his lungs,'Our liturgy is of St. John Chrysostom and is much older than yours!' He saw my face fall from instantly shattering my heart. He couldn't even look at me and he stared at the floor the whole time he was near me in the hardware store." The parishoner was convicted and didn't say a word.
@@matthewvelazquez2013There's a lot to unpack here. Just because their tradition is different, doesn't mean ours is better and that Jesus is offended they don't kneel or genuflect. Also, just because one parishioner at one parish was somewhat rude, doesn't mean that the rest in that parish are like that, let alone in all the other rites. From your comment I am getting a feeling of "holier than thou" and sense of pride in the Latin rite that is not healthy.
Or they won't bc you aren't their ethnicity
@@anastasijahrsak5751 not true. The Latin Rite is not national, it's international. The Latin Rite is not limited to a specific diaspora of people behind a language barrier. The Eastern rites are national, and are truly limited to a specific diaspora of people behind a language barrier. The Universality of the Latin Rite is true. The nationalistic and ethnocentric Eastern rites are much less Univesal than the Latin Rite. The Latin Rite is #1. All the other Eastern rites in the Catholic church are tied for second place.
@@matthewvelazquez2013 The Eastern Rites are not national, if you are Catholic you can attend any one of them. Latin churches have language barriers too, they might occupy the same churches but it's very possible for English mass-goers to never interact with say, Spanish mass-goers because their masses are at different place. You call the Eastern Rites nationalistic and ethnocentric yet display Latin Supremacy. Are you saying St. Mark, St. John Chrysostom, St. Basil, St. James, St. Thomas created an inferior rite??? C'mon.
This channel rocks! As a new Catholic the information is very clearly presented and easy to follow. Great job!
Good job, from a Maronite!
This video is such an excellent resource! Astoundingly condensed ❤ I'll likely use it for my Catechesis classes.
Byznessman here 😎☦️
Eastern churches are beautiful❤
This is extremely helpful! Thank you so much!!
Let's all pray for the delatinization of the Eastern rites...it hurts to see how much many of them are heavily NO influenced atm
Explain with examples please. Have you read Orientalium Ecclesiarum?
Maronite rite has NO influence.
Source: I am a Maronite
@@UnionSince452 That’s a good example of how examples matter, as my question was on the original commenters language. Maronites have been in communion with Rome from their origins, but with influence since the Crusades, in comparison to Ukrainians and others who came back into communion. For the original commenter to say “heavily NO influenced” is really confusing given Rome specifically *in and since Vatican II* has denounced latinization, and latinization was a problem the Council sought to resolve. Notably with Pope St John Paul The Greats encyclical Orientale Lumen, he also called for prayer and contrition on the part of the Latin Church regarding latinization as such - and for the Eastern Churches to follow through with acting on Orientalium Ecclesiarium and the authority and dignity it affirmed. I’m a Melkite, I’ve not been to Maronite Liturgy but I’ve heard some parishes the priest isn’t ad orientum.
@@NGAOPC I never said the Latinization was intentional or that it's not currently discouraged, but the reality means that the latinizations to remain there till this day. Rosary, adoration, stations of the cross - all good things, but not ours.
@@dp34576 I should have just asked specifically what you meant by specifying “NO influenced” but no, my comment was to the confusion of the specific phraseology of “NO influenced”. Latinization as such was a problem before Novus Ordo Mass - Vatican II, the same counsel that produced the current Novus Ordo Roman Mass also sought in Orientalium Ecclesiarium to end latinization (which was at times clearly deliberate), in the Eastern Churches and the perceptions behind it; there was not therefore something “Novus Ordo” about latinization, just the opposite.
Dear Eastern-rite Catholics - we, of the West, need your support in keeping Our Liturgy of St. Peter/ the Roman Rite / the "Latin Mass".
??? There is no Liturgy of St. Peter. The TLM is a relatively new rite…
Loving these videos
🙏🙏 amazing research brother
Thank you for the excellent video!
Melkite catholic of the eastern rite church here
Oooh found a nice catholic channel. Subscribed.
as a protestant i personally respect Eastern Catholicism.
I'm a simple man: I see His Beatitude Sviatoslav, I like! 😁
Top tier content.
Fascinating!
Very informative. Eastern Catholic churches are few are far between. But there are a number of Eastern Orthodox churches in major cities. That's the reality. Catholic converts from E.O. like myself end up going to the Roman Catholic church, but I wish there were other options to help us.
@@starchysocks what caused you to convert? And in chicago there’s like 25-35 orthodox churches, but technically not 1 Eastern Catholic Church. Although 2 outside of the city
@@randomjake1488 It's a difficult story to share. I haven't formally converted. A better explanation is I am being recognized as being from the Eastern Church and thus I can participate in the sacraments. But I find myself in-between both and struggle with it.
@@starchysocks thanks for sharing. Keeping you in my prayers and that our Lord, through our mother Mary, will give you great joy and blessings and keep you always close to Him
God bless you. Many EO considering conversion to Catholicism are hesitant because they would have to (at least temporarily) participate in Roman liturgies. I will pray that Eastern Catholicism spreads further
I say this somewhat tongue in cheek realizing it's probably not realistic, but consider moving to Pennsylvania. There are plenty of Eastern-Rite/Byzantine Catholic churches there, mostly of the Carpatho-Rusyn/Ruthenian and Ukrainian varieties.
Beautiful video
Fascinating.
ByzCath here! Remember Latins, we venerate Sts. Photius and Palamas 😁
Palamas yes, Photius no. Photius is a heretic and his canonization would be extremely scandalous.
@@CatechesisVids He's literally in the official Melkite and Rutherian calendars + horologions.
@@dp34576 I believe it must be a different Photius, not the Patriarch of Constantinople who entered into schism.
@gilbertwalker6769
That is a good point, there is a "Saint Photius the Martyr" who died in the 300's, vs. Photius Bishop of Constantinople who lives in the 800's.
@@CatechesisVidsHe's wrong. Please stop the wishful thinking, look up the Melkite horologion for Feb 6 and see who is referenced there. It's prideful to refuse to admit you're wrong and childish too
Nice video! Would you ever consider a video on the unique liturgical rites of religious orders, like the Dominican Rite Carmelite Rite?
As I was writing this video, I realized I couldn't encompass everything and turned it into a video about just the eastern rites; I'd like to return and just talk about the latin liturgical traditions at some point.
✝️🇻🇦🤍🙏🏼 LONG LIVE THE HOLY CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC FAITH ESTABLISHED BY OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST ✝️🇻🇦🤍🙏🏼
Thanks. Very nice. Question: where in all this does the neocatechumenate way fall? Under specialized liturgy?
The Neocatechumenal way is an apostolate; it doesn't have license to adapt the Roman Rite into any special liturgy shape beyond the ordinary ritual laws of the Latin church used in every Roman parish setting.
they’re roman rite
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Can you use different colors for different chapters? But it is my opinion.
The division of the new Mass of Paul VI into the liturgy of the word and Eucharist is modern and does not date before 1970. I note you did not mention the historic Roman Rite or the variations or different usages such as Lyon and Mozarabic Rites.
I'd like to do a deep dive on the whole "latin" category of rites and traditions, but the video was long enough just focusing on the east. The liturgy of the word and the liturgy of the eucharist may be modern terminology, but they are not modern categories as such. The proclamation of the word followed by the eucharistic prayers is an ancient delineation, hence why historically catechumens were dismissed half way through the service.
Prior to Vatican II the Rites up to the Offertory were referred to by Liturgists (and you can find it also in Laypeople's missals) the Mass of the Catechumens or the Foremass or Mass of the Faithful . From the Offertory on was known as the Mass of the Eucharist. These terms have changed over the centuries, and the name or descriptions depend on which Liturgists you read. Most are familiar with Fr. Fortescue and Fr. O'Connell who were popular liturgists among English speakers. While I have several editions of both of their books on the Mass, up to 1962 I also have manuals and books by French, German, Italian and Spanish Liturgists going back to the 1600s (The book themselves, some were reprinted from earlier Liturgists. I also have Mozarabic, Parisian, and Ambrosian Missals as well as several other Uses of Religious Orders such as the Dominican, Carthusian, and Carmelite Uses which differed from the Roman Rite. The one thing that remains is that one did not hear of and does not hear of the Two parts of the Mass being a separate rite, just what the focus of each part is.
An example of variations before and After the Council of Trent (just sticking with the Roman Rite) is that the Prayers at the Foot of the Altar and Last Gospel were not part of the Mass before the reforms of Trent. They were recited, but they were private prayers said by the priest and sanctuary party (Deacon and Sub-Deacon in Solemn Masses and the priest and acolytes in low mass) This is why in the TLM the priest after kissing the altar goes to the Missal at the Epistle side and makes the sign of the cross when he reads or chants the Introit. Prior to Trent it was the official start of the Mass. The Last Gospel was a private devotion of the priest who would recite it on his way back to the Sacristy. His genuflection was a sign that he was not an Aryian Heretic.
One additional error you will hear among some who have been taught by groups like the SSPX and Sede Vacantist groups is that the Canon was never touched from the time of Pope St. Gregory the Great. The truth is (and some of my Altar Missals from the 1560s to the early 1800s include mention of the Holy Roman Emperor or the King or Queen after the commemoration of the Pope, always after the Pope but sometimes before other times after the Ordinary and all bishops. Local saints and Founders of Religious orders are sometimes found added to the Canon too. So the Church while maintaining tradition is not as absolute as some claim.
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Are non-Ukrainians welcome?
@deutschermichel5807 absolutely, you are welcome to all liturgical functions
@@deutschermichel5807we have MANY non Ukrainians in our parish. We offer liturgies in both English and Ukrainian.
8:07 there is an error where you say turns “blood and wine into…” i think you mean “bread and wine” hehe
😑 Dang it. There's always something.
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Ukrainian Catholic here 😁
There's also an Ukrainian Eparchy of Parma, and their Cathedrals are about a mile apart.
Im roman rite, really interested in something older and more closer to apostoles.. that hasn't changed over time 🔥
Nothing is unchanged, as liturgies develop through the centuries.
The East isn’t the exact same and has also gone through changes. They don’t do a bunch of Last Supper recreation esque liturgies anymore.
Having met Patriarch Sviatoslav of the Ukrainians, the West's continued disrespect for the Ukrainian Church by persisting in using a title foreign to the East is especially insulting during these hard days.
Huh? Using what title?
@@CatechesisVids Major Archbishop. No Orthodox Church uses that title. Bishops who head a Church are either Archbishops, Metropolitans, or Patriarchs.
@@ilyazhitomirskiy9218 Who cares, it's one the Pope gives him. Vatican I ftw!
@@dp34576it's not natural title. Cardinal is a title only for latins, yet eastern bishops can receive. But it won't mean much to their community since it's foreign title
Eastern Catholics have Saint Gregory of Palamas but the Papists call him heretic?
It's a tricky issue. I went to Mass at an eastern liturgy a few months ago, and was surprised the liturgy celebrated Palmas. It was a difficult issue since he was so revered in the East, but Rome ultimately decided to approve his cult relatively recently (in the 70's maybe? Don't quote me on that).
Someone like Photius on the other hand, would be really scandalous to venerate, and he's not approved for veneration in eastern liturgy in union with Rome.
@@CatechesisVidsHe's approved 😂
Yes, approved. In the normal process, a person goes from servant of God, to blessed, to saint - each with particular levels of public veneration offered to them. Eastern Catholicism is a reunification with Rome from a previous lack of communion, and obviously they would generate their own saints over time.
The problem is, these holy figures are sometimes chosen as examples not of virtue but of vice - as with Photius and his opposition to Rome. It's understandable then, why Rome needed to weigh the sincerity of a cult like that of Palmas due to the context in which he lived and was venerated.
@@CatechesisVids that's circular ngl.
I believe that the designation Sui Iuris used in video really should read as Sui Juris_ meaning Self-governing.
I and J are used interchangeably with Latin terms, so that's a distinction without a difference I believe.
@@CatechesisVids The pronunciation was off_what's eeyouriss?
I pronounced it yur-eece, which I believe is the correct one.
@@CatechesisVids The proper pronunciation is Jooriss as in Jurisprudence or Jurisdiction.
Maybe in classical latin, but in ecclesiastical latin iuris would be pronounced differently.
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I think Syro Malankara should come under Alexandrian West Syriac tradition - as the liturgy was developed from within the Syriac Orthodox Patrimony which is within the Alexandrian school.
You mean anthiochian school.
8:09 I think you have a brief error in the video, you say " the sacrifice of jesus christ is presented and turns blood and wine into the body and blood of christ." I think you meant bread and wine into the body and blood!
11:00 There is also the Eparchy of Parma for the UGCC the catherdrals are down the street from one another. The UGCC goes by "Eparchy of St Josephat, Parma"
Yes, I misspoke at 8:09.
Neat!
Is this channel's icon AI? It's quite bizzare.
No. It's adapted from an illustration of the known world from an edition of St. Isidore of Seville's Etymologie.
@@CatechesisVids Cool, thanks! And great video. You got yourself a sub.
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so could you refer to the whole Eastern church as just "orthodox"?
One could not properly speaking refer to Eastern Catholics as Orthodox (except as an adjective). Eastern Orthodox is a specific splinter of Christianity, and is not the same thing as either Oriental Orthodox or Eastern Catholic.
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You can also refer to the western church as Orthodox if you gonna use it in that manner
I love my Eastern Catholic Brothers and Sisters, but their’s only 18 million Eastern Catholics of the 1.4 billion in the world. They’re an absolute ultra ultra minority. If you love their liturgy and history, why not just be what the Easter Catholic broke away from, the Orthodox?
Because Orthodoxy is false, its teachings are erroneous, and it lacks full communion with the one Body of Christ - the Church.
@@CatechesisVids We are erroneous and false, yet have a valid clergy, bishops and patriarchs, apostolic succession, Eucharist, and faithfully serve 300 million Orthodox Christians? We believe the Catholic Church has fallen away, even eastern Catholics don’t affirm Vatican 1 etc.. I’ve been convinced that the Orthodox has the fullness of the truth.
@@CatechesisVids anyways, I hope you and your followers stay true to the faith and don’t fall away as I’ve seen all of my Catholic friends and family have my entire life, even as I worked for the Catholic Church. Maybe the Eastern rite will prevail, but I don’t think 18 million EC’s of the 1.4 billion can maintain the whole church.
Each and every ecumenical council, including Vatican I and II, is binding on all Catholics of whatever rite. The Eastern Orthodox are materially heretical via the refusal to accept trinitarian doctrine, papal primacy, Jesus' teachings on divorce, etc. We can praise God in some measure that they have not been cut off totally from the sacramental life (save marriage and baptism) as have been the Lutherans or Anglicans.
@@randomjake1488filioque is true. Being a minority isn’t bad.
The "infallible" Pope teaches to be Catholic you must be Roman but also teaches the Roman catholic church is the universal church
While the Eastern Orthodox Saints teach that its is wrong to say you must be Eastern to be Orthodox.
To be Catholic you must be Roman, but you need not be Latin. Cultural or liturgical practices are not absolute.
I won't call myself a roman but catholic. That's a slap in the face to eastern catholics.
Anyone who in communion with the Roman Catholic Church Belive the pope is the Supreme patriarch. Where your patriarch is is what church you are. Members of the Russian church or ROCOR are Russian orthodox becaues they are under the authority of the Russian Patriarchal, Greek thing. But Eastern Catholic are under the authority of Roman there your patriarchs can not act separately like us in the orthodox church can.
Why do you make your videos in black and white?
In part I like it because it's sort of thematic since the intent is to make videos that present material which is "black and white", which is to say "objective". But mostly I just like how it looks; the design reminds me of a blackboard with white chalk.
All that said, my next video after this one uses color by necessity - as you'll see probably next month.
Even crayons experience rising costs due to inflation.
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Are you a real person or an AI man voice?
Are you asking if the videos use AI audio? If so no - it's my voice. Are you asking if they are written by AI? Also no.
@@CatechesisVids I just found your voice so monotone that I thought it was generated.
Oof
@@CatechesisVidsLmao
James, Jesus' cousin.
James could have been Jesus' brother by Joseph if Joseph had a first wife; there are a lot of possibilities compatible with the doctrine of Mary's perpetual virginity.
@@CatechesisVids St. Joseph didn't have a first wife. I believe the Church accepts that he was a virgin- perhaps a consecrated virgin in today's term- and would not have had a first wife. Mary was also a consecrated virgin prior to the Annunciation. She and Joseph would have had a celibate marriage. Of course they did after all, anyway.
The Church also accepts that James was a cousin as was Jude. In that time a man's cousin was referred to as his brother, a cultural thing.
I don't know of any such tradition on St. Joseph's perpetual virginity prior to marrying Mary, but I would be curious if you have more details. Certainly the blessed mother herself (along with Joseph) would have had a celibate union that was miraculously fruitful in the person of Christ - and both Joseph and Mary would not have had relations. While I don't know of any tradition of prior virginity on the part of St. Joseph, the Church regards St. Joseph's holiness as tertiary to Jesus and Mary; he is considered more holy than any of the other saints.
TLM is the best rite in the Church.
All Rites matter.
That is not a rite
It's boring. Lol
It's not a contest, and the TLM is not a rite. It is an old form of the Roman rite. Furthermore, have you experienced worship in the other rites? If not, how do you know which is the best? The church is Catholic, universal, and our diversity in worshipping Christ and unity in faith is beautiful.
@@jasmineandrose123 I have experienced the byzantine rite, the Maronite rite as well and have seen the coptic and the Syro-malankara rite. I agree it is not a contest and all of these forms are the real and only Mass, but I double down, the TLM is the most beautiful and the one that has had the biggest consequences on humanity as a whole as well as the biggest impact and the best fruits. It is not old, it is eternal, it is not a rite, it is THE rite, the original one of the roman church, MOTHER OF ALL CHURCHES.
In terms of the Byzantine rite, it's basically orthodox in communion with the Catholic Church.
Liturgically you mean, the rite is very similar to the Orthodox one?
@@CatechesisVids YES
Hello from the Russian Greek Catholic Church.
Hello from a Latin Rite Catholic! God bless you brother