Lee Auto Breech Lock Pro Press
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- After having this press for a few days, I am going to show you the operation of this press and my initial thoughts. So far I am very happy with it. I have had a few minor issues. This press will require a little tinkering and adjusting to make it run right.
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This press works great with .223 and 300 Blackout rounds, especially with pre-prepped cases that are already trimmed and primed. Start station 1 with powder charging, and leaving station 2 open for placing a bullet while the shell plate is on the up stroke.
Thx 243 Outdoors! I think the RCBS bullet feeder will better suit this press. Its hit an miss with that bullet feeder and I dislike that itll drop a bullet without a case. I also replace that detent spring to a lower tention in the carrier in both the pro 1000 and this press. Its to strong and its whats causing the powder to pop out
Elvis Ammo used the die from a Mr. Bullet feeder in a video. It looks superior to the Hornady & RCBS bullet feeding dies.
What's crazy is last night after i filmed the video i hooked it up and it ran about 75 rounds perfecly. I was only putting in 15 rounds at a time and refilling when it got down to 5. Then all of a sudden is was spitting out bullets left and right. Nothing changed. Just had a mind of it own.
I have never used one of these or seen a video:
www.titanreloading.com/lee-bullet-feeder-return-spring-upgrade?search=bullet%20feeder
Yes I also have a Hornady bullet drop system off of my LOL that I'm sure I can adapt to it. Cheers😁
Thanks for the video. Got my reloading equipment on order and will be using it the same way like you until Lee comes out with a better bullet feeder.
Woah! Ive been trying to decide on the loadmaster or the breech lock pro, i didnt know you could upgrade the breech lock pro with a case feeder and bullet feeder, thats pretty awsome. With it all upgraded like this does the loadmaster have any advantages besides the fifth die hole?
Very nice review looks like you got this system working well. Great price too thanks for taking the time and being so detailed. You da man.
I just finished 100 rounds with it. No problems, and it went real smooth.
Ugh, watching this video is painful. I am not impressed with this press. I have 2 LEE Loadmasters and they are a much better press. Just by watching the video, I would not recommend this press. Get a Loadmaster!
Great review thank you for your honesty,,,,, You did a great job casting them bullets too they look awesome👍👍👏👏🇺🇸🤓
They casted and turned out real well. I just wish they were coated a little better, the camera makes them look a little better than the actually are. They shoot real good. I just went out and shot 90 of them. They all went bang.
To stop the powder flying out I took a weaker spring out of a broken printer ( same diameter and I cut it to length ) and replace the spring under the shell plate.
Problem solved. Press works great .
Maybe in 3 - 5 years from now Lee would come up with an idea to make that annoying priming system automatic.
That's the biggest downfall with their systems. People would gladly pay a little more for a decent priming system.
Heck Yeah, great video & sweet Dump Tray, 👍🏻👊🏻.
Have a Happy New Year~!
Sincerely,
Matthew
Just got a Lee 2018 catalog in the mail today and the Lee Breech Lock Pro is on the cover. Interesting because it shows the press set up the way you use it here... no bullet feeder.
The press had a catalog in the box but the new press isn't in it.
Took another look at the catalog. It's a 2019 version. And they do show it with a Lee Auto Drum powder measure.Just as an aside, I've been using the Auto Drum on my Classic Turret press and with Titegroup it's unbelievably accurate.
I just cover the shell with my finger so it dont spill
Looks good just need a more sturdy bench to mount it on.
Love your videos man. Where can a guy get one of those matthews fab dump trays? checked out their site, but they don't have one listed?
I would send him an email or message and I bet he can hook you up.
Andy,
Glad you like it, you can message me through my website www.MatthewsFabrication.com to inquire about the Dump Tray.
Sincerely,
Matthew
#MatthewsFabrication
As far as the inverted cases in the case feeder, I've had great luck with this fix. A.22LR casing will fit perfectly in the small center hole of the collator. Take a penny and drill a hole in the center of it so the 22 case will fit in it but will be held in place by the rim. Once done, place that in the collator and it will decrease your inverted cases by over 90%.
Hey did you buy the bullet feeder separate? Trying to find one with it
Yes it’s separate.
I just ordered this press. Overall after this time, advice on it?
It’s great. I’ve probably loaded 5k rounds total of 9mm,223, and 38’s. Take your time. It will have minor issues here and there but overall I really like it.
@@243Outdoors Thanks much, I mainly will load 9mm on it. I’m going to use my Loadmaster for 223 and 308.
Don't use an adjustable charge bar on a progressive. With certain powders and smell pistol charges, the cavity will not fill completely and you'll have inconsistent charge weights. I only use those on my classic turret because as it bounces around the stations, it packs the cavity full flawlessly.
I should make a screen saver of ammo being loaded!....dig it brother....KEEP ON ROCKIN IT ! 243 Outdoors
Nice video on the new press. If you are having trouble with the bullet feeder, you might want to check out the mini mr bullet feeder. I have one on my turret press works great, but I use the lee drum powder measurer. I don't know how it would work with the auto disk. Just thought I would let you know. Keep up the good work.
Never had good results with the adjustable charge bar for small charges for pistol, and others have reported the same. I've had really good luck with the bullet feeder on my 1000 as long as the bullet base is smooth, if not smooth base it's better to only load the tube about half way up so there's less weight on the bottom bullet. As others have said, the case collator can be improved, the latest and best is a disc that hovers above the holes to prevent cases going straight in, see the video by NotAnExpert. Regarding the roller handle, can't you rotate it back one tooth, you can change the starting angle on the 1000.
I'm still waiting on my BLP to be shipped from Titan since everything is backordered, but your setup and operational tips will be a terrific help to me in getting it up and running. Thanks for providing this video.
I don't really think of this as a true progressive press. It's more like a Turret +. The juggling with the primer really downgrades it, but if the bullet feeder made up for that, maybe it would be a progressive ish. I've got a couple comparison videos in the works at the moment. Was trying to get them up last saturday, but I was just too slow.
The priming system is the real downfall with it. I do still call it a progressive because it produces a round every pull, but other actions are required.
@@243Outdoors With all the patents and potential litigation, this is probably the best LEE can do without sacrificing reliability. This system is probably the fastest I've seen when it comes to switching primer size (large vs small). Unlike Dillon which is absurd amount of time just to switch.
You might try an RCBS or Hornady bullet feeder also if you could come up with a way to make the primer automatic feed it would be a great press
All progressives need a little tinkering to get tuned and running smooth. Especially when changing calibers. All in all not to bad. The priming system would drive me nuts. Mainly because I like to inspect the cases as I prime. It’s not a gig against the press, just a matter of habit on my part.
I guess it's all what your use to. I am getting the hang of this one now pretty good now. I just ran 100 rounds through it with no problems.
Okay. Good review, all things about Lee equipment aside. Value, Lee is a company that offers Value to the reloader. all their products are made with that in mind. So now that is out of the way. Process. There are ways to increase your output of finished product by doing your procedure in steps with the Lee equipment. The first thing to consider is size and de-prime all your brass on a single stage or set the Lee progressive up to do it. (If you wet tumble this works awesome, I would suggest that you start wet tumbling your brass) then as a separate process set up a bowl of cleaned brass and use a bench mounted auto primer unit, the lee will work fine, however, the RCBS is a much nicer unit to work with but a spendy unit if bought new. So with all your brass Clean, resized and primed start the process of progressively feeding them through the press. As far as the final lock up and the "Powder slinging" going on, It seems that there is too much-stored energy on that mechanism, the use of reduced power springs may be the answer other than the O-ring trick. one thing you didn't explain was, Is the powder slinging out as the plate rotates, or in the powder being thrown out and up as the detent snaps into its lock? , there isn't much you can do about powder slinging out because of the momentum of the case going to its next station Other than Slow down. However, I would try using weaker springs to avoid any sudden "Snap" as the shell plate locks in place. I believe that UJ did a similar fix on a Dillon press he has. anyway, I would abandon the bullet feeder. People more than not have problems with the Lee mechanism working 100%. So NO Lee bashing here. Lee offers quality and Value to the reloaders of the world. we need them to keep doing so, in doing so other companies keep control of pushing their prices through the roof as the only gig in town. I used a Lee Pro 1.000 when I was still starting out, that press taught me a lot about what could go wrong usually will and to watch those steps on any progressive press regardless of Make and Cost. Richard Lee has come up with Tools and reloading equipment that many others copied in their design. and may I add, A majority of reloaders has started with Lee equipment, So keep going Lee!! this was a good unbiased review buddy. Dave.
I love the Lee stuff, because that's mostly what i have. As far as the powder spilling the shell plate speed is controlled by the handle running the index rod. The problem is the sudden snap of the ball detent. Eagle Eye changed out his spring and it helped. The O ring trick is to give a little resistance to the shell plate. A proper sized O ring should help. I ran 100 rounds tonight and had no issues. I am getting use to the press, and am really liking it.
Hey 243 Outdoors... I'm thinking about getting one of these presses,, and my main loads would be 9mm and 243... what's your opinion on the 243..
I have this press and it runs pistol ammo no problem. I also run 223 in it, but I pull the indexing rod out and manually index the shellplate. If I don't, the shellplate starts to move before the bullet tip has cleared the seating die.
I've never reloaded 243, but it's OAL is only about a quarter-inch shorter than 223. I suspect you'd have to do the same as I did with 223.
Add the Hornady Bullet feeder....
I prefer to set bullets by hand too. I like the auto disk for handgun and 223 rounds . I also prefer the adjustable powder bar over the disc's to dial in the powder charge. I also noticed you mark your dies once adjusted. I thought I was the only one to do that . Ha
My problem is with this being new, i marked it and have made adjustments to it. I think i have it where i want it now.
I would probably feed the bullets by hand as well. That’s still a great press for$100. Thanks Josh👍🏻🇺🇸
Yeah the basic press is $100. By the time I got everything else it was over $300. The good thing is all you turret press guys will already have most everything you need for it.
I see you have had good luck with your case feeder I got the same press tried to set it up for 10 mm everything works good but that thing flips about 80% of the cases I've adjusted according to the directions adjusted in out up down can't seem to get the hang of it. If you have a clue I'd appreciate knowing what it is because how you say you got yours working so well thanks Robert
Yes, I love mine. The only thing I can think of off hand is make sure the plastic piece that the brass slides on is free of burrs.
Thanks for the video. Its my impression that except for the Dillon, all the progressives require a fair amount of fiddling. The autodrum powder measure is a pretty good upgrade for this package as long as you dont use the finest powders. Its a little more accurate than the charge bar option IMO.
I didn't know which powder measure to get. More people recommend the auto disc for running finer pistol powders. So far it seems pretty good. I didn't like it when the case kept crashing into the side of the expanding die, but i got it all figured out "for now."
The charge bar is a nice upgrade over the fixed disks for sure. On the handle interference, you may be able to lower the handle a little in the clamp and since the handle is bent out you may get more clearance. That worked for me on the turret version where it hit the primer feeder. That was a great idea to run cases into the dies to align the upper frame, Good job!
Nice review. I like the 4th die station this press offers, but I still prefer the Pro-1000.
Powder spill is a problem with every progressive I've seen, especially short cases like 9mm.
Thanks for the review, stay safe.
I've got a different sized 0 ring on it now and it really doesn't spill any powder anymore. I had one that was to big and it was jamming up.
For 9mm brass to go down the collator tube better. Drill a hole dead center in a penny the size of a empty 22 case. Put the penny in center of collator pushing the spent 22 case into the hole in the center. It makes the 4 holes smaller and you will have fewer upside down cases.
I did that right after this video was made.
Nice review !
Lee called this the fastest single stage press on the market. I am not sure they consider this a progressive press or not. I see it as a progressive turret along the lines of a Dillon 550. Both of these have manual user inputs to work.
On the BRP you manually set a case, set a primer, and set a bullet.
On the 550 you manually set a case, set a bullet, and index the shell plate.
I have watched a few videos on this press. The turret press user in my likes it in its basic form out of the box. I can set a primer and set a case at the top of the stroke so easy enough. Place the bullet on the down stroke when I set the primer. I would want an inspection mirror to verify powder.
I find the Lee AutoDrum measure to be the Bees Knees over the Lee AutoDisk. Some powders work better in the Lee AutoDisk like they do in a Dillon. I have not had issue.
I had people recommend both measures. For the powder that i am using most said to go with the auto disc. For what i am doing i think this press is perfect for me. It's still new so i'm loading every night. It will slow down once the new wears off.
Do the penny mod on the case collator and you won’t have anymore upside down cases. Bullet feed works just fine, too.
I already did. It works great.
+243 How's the press doing? You still loading with it?
Doing great. I loaded 200 rounds this morning. Counting Primers I have loaded about 2500 rounds with it so far.
Very informative video on this new press. FYI, powder flakes jump out of the case when I run my Lee Pro 1000 press too quickly, too. Must be a Lee thing.
The Blue Team buys a host of after market parts to remove powder spillage.
Yeah i thinks so. Nothing precise with these rounds just plinkers.
Good honest review. Thanks Josh.
Thanks for watching Cleatus!!!
nice work im about to get that same set up and im wondering what is the purpose of the powder coating of the bullets ?? please advise thank you .
Was told today that coated rounds will keep lead from building up in your barrel. This was from a professional shooter who coats his.
@@CastleHives thank you for your reply .
I tried the oring idea to stabilize the brass case as it's going around from stage 2 to 3. Great tip. I always got a little powder spillage.
Eagle Eye said to change the spring out under the detent ball with a ball point pen spring. He said it helped his out. I will probably look for a smaller diameter o ring.
Eagle Eye shows the trick 243 is talking about in his video on the machine.
Curious about the chain that is used on the powder measure. I see your not using it. I realize it's case activated. I just don't understand the reason why or why not the purpose of the chain.
The instructions say to use the chain for progressive press applications. It is still case activated but the chain resets it when the ram is all the way down. It basically keeps it from double charging. I prefer it without the chain.
@@243Outdoors it's just confusing because it resets when another case goes in. I just don't know how the chain prevents a double charge. If the shell plate moved to the next station your ok. I just bought the auto breach lock pro, and I'm trying to figure out why the chain. Thanks for the reply.
With out the chain, if you go half way down and back up it will double charge. With the chain it has to go all the way down to reset and then the shell plate also rotates. I see no reason for the chain.
Thank you for the review
You're welcome. I have had it for a little over a month, and have ran 1000+ 9mm through it.
3/1...
No bullet feeder, TD.
I've got the Lee bullet feeder, but it's not reliable enough. Wasn't impressed with it at all.
@@243Outdoors Did you use it with just one tube; or did you get the 4-tube add-on? Was the length of your bullets within the spec of the unit you used? What went wrong? If you have the 4-tube-turret, you can shut the bullets on&off by turning it between tubes.
Single tube, everything is what it should be, just a poor design in my opinion.