2-Stroke Oil in 4-Stroke Crankcase? Let's try it!
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- Is 2-stroke oil up to the task of being used as 4-stroke engine oil? Let's find out!
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"this engine has a lot of wear and tear"
I wonder why.
lol. Great point!
Well of course 😂😂
In deed! Was it the bacon grease test? Maybe it was the WD40 test....
Hard work on the farm, Project Farm that is.
*flashbacks to using shampoo and bananas as lubricant*
Project farm selling a mower on craigslist : oil changed frequently spark plugs changed as well as head gaskets. Engine cleaned multiple times and always starts when needed. Love the videos keep em coming
Honestly he probably is the best used lawnmower salesman. The thing would have been through hell anyway as most people never ever do maintenance to their push mowers. At least you know all the repairs you described have been done.
I have been running amsoil interceptor oil in it with great results!
He sure is proud of his lubricity tester. Lol. Love the vids!
lol. Thanks
@@ProjectFarm Can I use 2 stroke oil on my 4 stroke 125cc motorbike?
@@teddybeer1757 why?
I didn't know the tool existed until i found this channel.
@@teddybeer1757 tell me why?
I love his little smile in the intro! He seems to really love his job. I respect that!
LOL! Thanks!
Project Farm No problem dude! Ima go sub now!
Automatic transmission fluid in the crank case.
Thank you for this recommendation!
Not sure how relevant this is but my buddy's foxbody takes ATF in the manual transmission
I've done it. It works fine.
devildog
I always forget who does what but automotive power steering systems, using ps fluid or atf.
I do remember ford having some fun getting air bled from some of their systems and they’d whine like crazy.
I’ve heard Some of em you would have to pull a vacuum on the reservoir to get the air out if the fluid.
My local Wal Mart was on the news recently. They did an oil service on a lady's car and drained the oil out but put 6 quarts of fresh oil back in the TRANSMISSION by mistake.
This has become my favorite channel. I've been watching for a long time and I love that you take peoples suggestions and test them out. Thanks for everything you do and keep up the good work.
Thank you very much! I get a lot of great recommendations in the comments section!
You should test oil ratios on the lubricity testor. 50:1, 40:1, 32:1, and 24:1!
Thank you for the video idea!
1:10 :)
@@ProjectFarm please do this test!
@@ProjectFarm I would be interested to see this as well
I would too but be careful, it might catch on fire 🔥
I've been binge watching all your videos that I haven't seen yet. I love watching your testing methods develope and evolve. Love the effort you put into these videos thanks.
Thank you very much!
They are addictive.. Usually intend to watch one and then 3 hours later I'm still watching.. Great videos.. 👍🍀🇮🇪
so happy to see how much the channel is growing! I remember when you had 20k and made videos with that tractor lol.. keep it up man
Thank you!
You should use a digital caliper to check the bearing before and after to get a better representation of how much wear is happening.
This is a great recommendation--thank you!
Somehow I don't like those digital calipers, to me analog caliper is better to use. If you need a 0.01mm accuracy a micrometer is way better and it's meant to measure with such accuracy
@@joakimvhes302 as a machinist I can say, digital, dial, or vernier, none is inherently better. It's the skill of the user.
Project Farm.
I recently purchased a crescent brand wrench from Walmart and noticed that they are no longer
made in the US and thought it would be cool if you purchased an older one (but still unused) that was made in the US and the same model that is now made in China and test them see if there is a difference. you could do the same with Craftsman and a few other US brands that are now being made in China. I'd be interested to see how big of a difference, if any, there would be.
Thank you for this recommendation!
there is no comparable usa made are better
@@danwells7691 did you do the test? If not, shut up. The guy makes a valid point.
@@MegaJared2 no need to tell people to shut up dude chill he does make a good point though
@@northtexasskies3243 uhm, I'm chill? My comment was chill? I simply said if he didn't actually do the test himself and is just guessing, then he needs to shut up.
Stop being such an offended pussy and you might live a happier life man
You've become my Bob Vila of small engines. I really enjoy watching you on my weekends. Thanks for the entertainment!
Thank you very much!
Water mixed into the oil like a head gasket leak would be cool
Thank you for this recommendation!
BrandoBrap Good idea
Water and oil or antifreeze and oil,,, generally ruins the engine inside,,, just rebuilt a LS motor with a intake manifold leak,,, white milky stuff stuck all over the inside,,,. Had to take it to a car wash and pressure wash it out,,, then clean everything with transmission fluid,,,. Lucas Oil stabilizer will make it five times worse,,. !!!
Rick Simpson How is that possible? LS engines have dry intakes. No coolant runs through them at all.
HungLikeAHorse #PrO Everyone in the TH-cam comments drives an 1100HP LS swap. How dare you question him.
Always find myself watching every sec of your videos. Very thorough and intelligent man
Thank you!
My Brother works at a Lube shop.
He had a customer tell him he has been doing this for years.
I was not surprised by this result.
Great vid,Very thorough.
Thanks for sharing.
@@ProjectFarm THANK YOU! I enjoy your videos immensely.
Wow, these results surprised me! 2 stroke oil is much thinner than 10W30, so I thought it would do some damage. Thanks again for the video. Love watching it!
Thank you!
How about engine oil use as 2 stroke oil...
Thank you for this recommendation!
OokTiaopi my older than dirt sears chainsaw that says to mix 30 weight with the gas proved it worked for atlest 40 years.
Indeed! Older two-strokes, say from around World War 2, specifically call for motor oil...as do very old-two strokes used in Maytag washing machines before electricity.
yup, thats how it was done in the "days of yore" before modern ash free burning 2-stroke oil.
Project Farm I have wondered the same thing there isnt much info on youtube about this that i could find anyway
What about running engine only with oil additives.
Thank you for this recommendation!
zoninable 1 type of additive like Marvel mystery oil or several different ones like marvel seafoam and lucas?
Several different types but no mixing one at a time.
zoninable I’ve suggested he try Archoil AR-9100 after seeing Jay Leno use it in his cars.
Moly additives are the popular thing in Europe, looking to see if there's any tests here yet.
2-stroke engine oil has lower viscosity than a 4-stroke engine... Hence the oil blew out the exhaust...
Otherwise both oils are designed in lubricating and regulating temperature, so they both are good
Thank you
Bullshit i have klotz sae50 synthetic 2 stroke racing oil, some 2 stroke oil is some pretty thick stuff, i went back to shell rotella SEA 40w 2 stroke diesel oil as it burn off better and is much cheaper, The thick 2 stroke klotz is much better but the rotella works fine
2 strokes are continuous duty as proven by sleds, ships, tugs and big generators, the automotive industry is a sick 4 stroke cult and is light duty, the only us i got for a 4 stroke is to throw it off a cliff and watch it self destruct. i rune nothing but 2 stroke oil, 4 stroke is false reality to me
@@jlo13800
So in other words...
2 strokes rule and 4 strokes drool!!
Not always, i got some klots techniplate r50 2 stroke oil, BTW Silkolene pro 2 sx is SAE40W and XD-100 is SAE 30 but feels kinda of thick. I fill my kohler mower with the XD-100, a bit thicker than 10w30 and it stays much cleaner and i meter it off into the intake for total loss burnoff. So far so good.
Thank you. I have wondered this very thing
Blood instead of oil.
Alright then
LOL
Oof
I got a free kohler toro and all i use is xd-100 2 stroke oil in the crank and some premix, it far exceeds the so called 4 stroke oil and it stays cleaner, i will stay with xd-100 oil or amsoil dominator 2 stroke oil
haha good one
Thanks for this. I had an emergency in my big block Chevy yesterday, running 3 quarts low and sounding like it wanted to seize! Had a quart of mobil1 in the glovebox, but that wasn't enough. Had my landscaping rig in the back, so I added a quart of 2 stroke oil as well to get a reading on the dipstick. It quieted down and I made it home the last few miles. Wondered if I had made the right move, and looks like I'm in the clear. Thanks for the peace of mind!
Yup. Happened t0 us on the job. Our exmark mower was low on oil, we added 2 stroke into it and hoped for the best on a $3000 machine. 😅
This guy rocks. Has answered every "what if I put this in my lawnmower" question I have ever thought up.
Thanks!
Haven’t seen all your videos yet but if you haven’t tired it yet “normal engine oil in a 2 stroke” love the videos keep up the good work
ok, i thought this up last night, i thought it sounded like a truly amazing idea since you have messed with jb weld plenty already. take the head and remove the head gasket, and all the bolts for the head to fasten it down. jb weld it down, and have it held together by just the jb weld with out any fastners securing it. see how well it holds, and if it can build compression, and maybe even run on it. it sure would make for an awesome video!
Thank you for this recommendation!
I’ve heard stories that it doesn’t work, it can’t take the heat and the pressure of the combustion process.
Although there’s no harm in trying to prove me wrong :)
Thelegend 27 the head made from JB weld, and even the head fixed with JB weld seem to do just fine
Quik steel.
Try 10w30 mixed with gas in a 2 stroke
it will seize within a couple of minutes.
It will work but it will smoke like crazy, like 2 strokes used to back in the day. Not sure how happy a modern 2 stroke will be running like that.
works awesome use it in my weedeater for the last 15 years
5w30
10w30 works awesome been perfect for me for 15 years!!
I actually ran out of oil last summer when I was changing the oil in my old beater push mower and I realized i forgot to get more oil for it and my yard really needed mowed. If I would have known then what I know now I probably would have just put 2 stroke oil in it awesome video 👍
Thanks!
I would like to see a pour test of substances not only as very cold but warm as well. Maybe get on oven, heat, for example, these 4s and 2s oils to like 90°C and pour.
That would certainly be interesting to see!
Thank you, Project Farm guy, for always being polite and down to earth.
Thank you for the video idea!
Run a engine on hairspray
Thank you for this recommendation!
yes that'd be great
Chase McCarter. Nice idea !
Hair spray has polymers in it. The Aquanet anyway.
Chase McCarter. Ayyyy a KG fan ✊
Awesome video, I would’ve thought it would’ve went past the oil ring and into the combustion chamber to be burnt, but surprisingly not, in a pinch you definitely could use 2 stroke oil in a 4 stroke engine. Next try sewing machine oil or transmission fluid in the crank case.
Thank you for this recommendation!
been doing this for years in old worn four strokes which burn oil and fouled plugs. Two stroke oil doesn't foul spark plugs. Synthetic oil doesn't make blue smoke either . Excellent work Thanks
Thank you!
I do small engine repair part time and have seen this a few times and never any damage.
Thank you!
I've been waiting for this video for a long time, i really like the adding of 2 stroke products and testing. Thank you for following up on my previous questions. 2 strokes are awesome machines.
Thank you for suggesting this test! I hope you enjoy the video.
TC-W3 oil is designed for the lower running temperatures of lake or ocean-cooled outboard 2-stroke engines. Most outboards are lucky to see 160° coolant temp most of the time - this is the reason I would never run a TC-W3 rated oil in a string trimmer, chainsaw, or any other air-cooled 2-stroke engine. This here is the best test that could've been done - if a TC-W3 oil can withstand running in a hot crankcase, then regular 2-stroke oil surely can.
Great vid - thanks for posting, as usual! 👍
All great points and thanks for commenting!
On an outboard engine(unless you don't care) it pays to usethe factory recommended oil grade and mixture(if not oil injected) years ago I used to hang out/help out at a boat dealer,had a customer with a large 4 cyl) brand new outboard come back for repairs ,a relative of his had told him if he used the "miracle oil" he was hawking,at a lighter mixture("the miracle stuff was so good less was needed" ,so that's what he did, the problem was he had pretty much welded the rings to the Cyl.walls,reducing the powerhead to scrap,he was less than thrilled to learn he had also voided his warranty was told to get his " oil expert" to pay for the new powerhead,expensive lesson learned,-the engineers who design things have some idea as to what they need.
I have ran pennzoil semisythetic in a 4 stroke briggs for year and never had a problem. im going to try xd100 silcolene pro 2 sx next.
It may simply be anecdotal, but while i was out of the country for a year i left my riding mower for use by my neighbor. A few weeks before I got home he went ahead and changed the oil on it using a bottle of "SAE30" that was sitting on the shelf next to the antifreeze in the shed. He mowed the grass with it and then I returned. I noticed the oil was darker than usual and figured he hadn't changed it and decided I'd mow and then drain it hot. I made it through about half the yard, noticed the mower was getting a lot hotter than I remembered and smoking, started heading for the shed and it locked up. Pushed it to the shed and drained it and out came blackish' blue-green oil with a good deal of white metal content. When getting oil out to flush it i noticed my "SAE30" bottle was sitting with my other oil bottles. The mix oil i use for the leaf blower and chainsaw is what I keep in that bottle, which is what my neighbor happened to put in the mower. Anyway, i flushed it a few times, put the usual "regular oil" back in it and still runs, not great, but it runs. I took a strip of pink duct tape and put on that bottle and wrote 2stroke MIX oil on it to prevent that from ever happening again while gone. Of course, not 100% sure it was that mix oil that caused it, but my neighbor and I have the sort of relationship if a problem had happened with the mower while he had it , he would have just bought me a new mower. And the issue happened on the 2 stroke mix oil's watch , and that's really all i have to contribute it to. It may be one of those deals where some engines will tolerate it, some won't, quite possible this one was of the later.
I kicked the 4 stroke oil habbit for some time now, Im running xd-100 2 stroke oil with home made oil injection in my free kohler toro motor. Its a nice motorror a 2 stroke conversion project. It runs at 4300 RPM and damn near makes me def compared to my dads old lawn boy at 2800 rpms. Xd-100 oil 2 stroke oil stays much clean and burn clean as it is 33/gallon
That's not wear and tear, it's wear and torture. Keep up the great work. You have one of the best TH-cam channels out there.
Thank you for the feedback!
My dad was a repair machines at crescent tool when it was in Bridgeport, ct.
Transmission fluid, hydraulic oil, and vacuum pump oil in the engine! Not sure if you’ve done diesel in crank case yet but that’s an idea.
Thank you for this recommendation!
Diesel would be pretty much the same as WD-40.
yeah brake fluid as oil, i would like to know that one too
By The Sea Aspirin Shop perhaps. But I would like to see farm diesel which has lots of sulphur in it. Should compare WD40 to low sulphur diesel from the pumps, and farm diesel.
they use the same oil in all systems in 3rd world countries.. makes life easier
Transmission fluid as engine oil?
Thank you for this recommendation!
Bigfoot And Bananaman ,,, I've been using transmission fluid in the engine oil for over 30 years,,, only one Court added,,, it is the best for cleaning the engine,,. And stuck or ticking lifters,,. Or sludge,,, run it for 500 miles and do an oil change,,,
That's a well known way to clean out a sludged engine.
Rick Simpson I use it as fork oil and I would love to see a lubricity test of it
It would be yet another no outcome type of test. ATF will be an ideal engine lubercant. Next.
Love the channel man! Thanks for your time in doing these!
Thank you!
That lubricity tester is really ingenious! I love it
Thank you!
I had an instance where I had to use some new chain saw bar oil (2 qts) from the store to add to my truck. Still going good at over 200k miles but a show on using bar oil as an emergency option might be interesting.
Thank you!
Do an experement with *TURPENTINE* and/or *D-LIMONENE* (Orange Oil).
Turpentine and D-Limonene are non-polar solvents, meaning they dont mix with water, but they do mix with oil (including gas).
D-Limonene is pretty much orange oil. It is a STRONG solvent -- so strong that it is used to DEGREASE ENGINES and REMOVE GRAFFITI from stuff. It is also used as a cleaner/solvent in homes, industrial kitchens, and factories.
A strange tendency of D-Limonene is that it likes to destroy certain types of rubber, including neoprene and latex. An example of this is if you put orange peel to a balloon; it pops it. The D-Limonene in the orange peel dissolves some of the rubber, causing it to pop. (So, there is a possibility it could erode hoses and/or gaskets. It depends on the material.)
A possible side effect of putting D-Limonene in fuel could be orange scented fumes!
Also, D-Limonene is the liquid base of Mace Triple Action Pepper Spray. I sprayed some and smelled it; it smells like orange cleaner! (And capsaicin, and CN Tear Gas. The tear gas is like inhaling wasabi.)
Thank you for this recommendation!
Found your channel 3 months ago and I love it. Great real world reviews.
In the Remote Control Hobby world of Cars, boats, and Helicopters, there are lots of opinions on which 2 stroke Synthetic oil is best to mix with your gas (or Coleman) to run your Zenoah 26-30 cc engines. On the RC forums these “Which oil is best” forums all turn into “oil wars”..
Would love to see you compare the following 2 stroke Full Synthetic high end oils mixed at 32:1 in a Zenoah 26-30cc engine running at max RPM (11,000-14,000)
Redline, Pennzoil Marine, Motul, Bel-Ray, and any others you like. Thanks for the consideration.
Imagine when 2 stroke mixture outboard oil used 4 stroke oil.
NICE VIDEO MY MAN!
Thank you!
I would like to see a test on different synthetic oils and the film they provide. For example run a engine on mobil 1 and the other on Pennzoil Platinum and see which one seizes first as well as the lubricity tests
Thank you for this recommendation!
I had this emergency a few days ago :D I didn´t do it though, I went to bed as the off grid battery bank went to 0% and the lights went out.. Now I¨m excited to see what would have happened if had done it :D
Thank you!
2 stroke oil is way heavier duty, 4 joke is not!
I really like your videos. They are high quality and I refer to the content there. ☺️
Thank you!
You make the BEST videos.
Thanks
Thank you!
Hey maybe you can use a catch can that you can buy off eBay for the blow by that way you can measure how much oil is lost in your future videos keep up the great work
This is a great recommendation--thank you!
Great video, thanks! So now you'll do conventional oil in a 2 stroke right? :)
Michael Rogers
Haha I think I did that when I was in a pinch about 20yrs ago when I was a kid.
It worked but it didn’t like it much under a heavy load
Thank you for this recommendation!
Works fine I actually have a couple old 2 stroke chainsaws than are marked sae30 only
If you by that mean to mix gasoline with regular motor oil, that's not a problem - I've done that many times back in the days on my 2-stroke Yamaha. :-)
It works, did it with my mini bike as a kid.. run it rich and shake the shit outta it and giver!
Awesome video.
My son unfortunatelly topped Up our 4 stroke motorbike with 2 stroke oil instead of 4 stroke.
I was about to drain the engine despite I did an oil change less than 300miles ago.
I"ll just continúe topping the engine Up with our usual castrol 4 stroke oil.
Thanks Mate from Spain.
Thank you!
I like some of the aspects of these older videos. Especially the paper towel test.
Your videos make me feel like a bad teenager, getting into trouble in a friend's garage. And his dad's due home in an hour.
lol!
You should mix MMO and Seafoam together and try it! (Saw this recommendation in another video and loved the idea)
Thank you for this recommendation.
Thanks. Some suggestions are a bit outrageous that I find them unbelievable. Like what you are doing, sir.
Thank you!
Shoot, I just noticed this Video! I remember suggesting this yesterday, Hahahaha! I love your channel! Been watching for about a year! I’m a rare commenter! Take care!
Thank you!
Liquid soap instead of oil and lighter fluid as the fuel. Also try what will happen if you add bleach or engine degreaser to engine oil while the engine is running.
Thank you for this recommendation!
Fabulous videos you produce. So much interesting information. I enjoy the unconventional testing you perform, again a fantastic job 👍. Extremely educational as well, many thanks 🙏.
Thanks and you are welcome!
I ran 2 stroke oil in a honda gx 4.0hp for at least 5hours of use without realizing. Heavy use at that, being used in my shingle hoist. That was 5 years ago and its still working fine.
This is great to know that it'll last for a lot longer than the 1-hour test. Thanks for commenting.
Make a see through crank case cover for a 2 stroke trimmer so we can see how the bottom end gets oil. It would be neat to see how different mix ratios effect the amount of residual lube left. Also I think I mentioned testing different brands and rating of 2 cycle oil on your lubricity tester.
Great video idea! Thank you
Use pure oxygen in the intake to see if you get more power under load
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actually that was researched for submarines before and during wwII. pure oxygen will ignite the engine-- literally. the metal of engine itself will burn. the trick is to dilute the oxygen with some of the exhaust gasses, the same principle as modern automotive EGR systems.
basically it doesn't work.
DON'T DO THIS! !! This is extremely dangerous.
oh yeah thats safe...are you trying to kill him? O2 is way to reactive with virtualy everything...the first thing we learned in welding class was how much more dangerous the O2 bottle was over the acetylene can (mainly for its rocket like ability if the stem breaks off) but the reactivity made it equaly dangerous to any other gas we had...oxygen is added to gasoline with chemistry like adding Methyl tert-butyl ether or MTBE...personally i will not try adding pure O2 to gasoline
I did this with a bottle of portable oxygen and a leaf blower. It revs up a hell of a lot when added to the intake of the carb. The hose somehow caught fire and and started burning up like a cannon fuse to the bottle. Very cool but not gonna lie scared at the same time.
Did you ever try adding it to the gasoline to see what it does for cleaning up carbon deposits/adding deposits?
honestjhon of course it will add deposits... if they didn’t, 2 stroke engines would always be clean
A couple of times I used gasoline as a cleaning agent in the oil reservoir. Of course I did remove the spark plug and cranked the engine manually. In addition I used gasoline, 2t mineral and kerosene as injector cleaners at different ratios in common rail diesel engines.
One thing for sure, nothing beats the mechanical cleaning, especially for diesel injectors.
Thanks for sharing.
I ride dirt bikes and so many times we have someone in the group break their engine casing on a rock, losing some or most of the oil in the crank. Most of us carry epoxy and some (the ones riding 2-strokes) carry 2-stroke oil but almost nobody ever caries 4-stroke oil so we clean up the crankcase with gasoline and epoxy it back together and use the 2-stroke oil in the crank. This works very well and is Much better than riding with little or no oil and we have Never had any engine problems from doing this.
Thank you
I never comment or like channels. This is my first. Thank you for your dedication
Thank you for the support!
How about putting 10W30 into a small engine, put ut into a deeo freezer, then see how long the engine lasts upon immediate startup with everything being really cold?
Thank you for this recommendation!
Canadian snowblowers, vehicles, generators etc do it all the time. Not an issue.
I'm in northern Canada. outside right now on March 6th it's -26 Celsius, its like this more than 6 months out of the year and often goes below -40! i've had vehicles with over 250,000 miles started every morning for nearly 20 years and they have no issue whatsoever. We do have block heaters to keep the oil and coolent warm overnight, but i only use mine when it gets below -30.
So like, normal use for the rest of the world in the northern hemisphere? Canada, Russia... Russia in particular still drives a ton of old cars, so they obviously last a long time. Besides that, they have temperatures that would make food get freezer burn, so its actually colder than the deep freezer.
Ross N you probably got some 5W30or 5W40 or 0W30 or ......
Not surprised by the results. I once owned an Austin Mini van with a 850cc 4 cylinder water cooled engine which had a 'noticeable' engine oil leak, I also had access to copious amounts of ATF and did 50 miles a day running the engine on it with no discernible problems except leaving pink patches everywhere i parked it.
Thank you
I actually bought a second hand snowblower Arens 7HP with electric start 4-5 years ago that didn't run too well. After I got it home I checked the oil and guess what? It was 2 stroke oil. Lol. I changed the oil with what's supposed to be in it and adjusted the carb. It's been working fine ever since... Oh and one tire had a leak/flat so I used that green slime tire repair stuff too.
Excellent!
@@ProjectFarm good job reading a comment from one year old video
I bet you get hundreds of them everyday
The boss had me look at the leaf blower one day at work, said it wouldn't start. Ok, well spark plug was good, then I opened the gas tank...what is supposed to be 2 stroke fuel was pure 2 stroke oil, no fuel in it at all...well there's your problem lady.
@@wildbill23c lol, I can see how that could cause a problem...
Wow, judging from the amount of blowby coming out of the crankcase vent port, that engine was already seriously worn to begin with. That port really should be connected to the intake to suck the oil fumes into the combustion chamber to burn them up.
I'd like to see a test of various high-temperature vegetable oils (olive, safflower, sesame, canola, peanut) to see which produces the least gunk in the crankcase. You know, in case the asteroid hits and civilization crumbles and I have to lube my generator with whatever oil I can find. I didn't list castor oil because we already know that makes a good engine oil -- lots of 2-stroke engines already use it. Also, nobody keeps a gallon jug of castor oil in their pantry...I hope.
Can use use regular oil to mix 2 stroke gas?
How much do you care about the engine? We used to, but modern two stroke oil is cheap at Walmart so there’s really no reason to.
I ran pennzoil semi synthetic tcw3 in the crankcase of a Briggs engine mower many times without out any problems, I also mix a little in the fuel and never had any problems.
Thanks for commenting on this!
Hi there, I've been watching your videos for a long time now. And i must say I truly appreciate and enjoy them. I understand your not sponsored by any of these products that you compare or run tests on, but, it does help me decide on what product to buy. I'm sure you help many people with what product/item/tool, etc, to pick or buy. And you explain how to install or replace, or fix, many jobs at hand, which is extremely helpful.
I just wanted to say, Thank You, for what you do! Many of us love watching your videos. I teach commercial diving, (not scuba, hard hat or helmet) and many of my students know you, and are subscribed to you. The videos are entertaining and educational and sometimes it just plain cool to watch. Thanks again,
M. Merchant II. aka Red.
(sorry, I can't think of any video suggestions at the moment, but I'll keep you in mind if something comes up)
Thanks so much!
have you thought about getting a go kart and trying to drive it around with your crazy tests lol
This is a terrific idea! Thank you!
Project Farm I agree. Sounds like a fun way to use the engines power. More exciting than an engine brake lol
oh yeah? picture yourself on a go kart
I like it.
Yeah go cart
When I was a kid, I remember a neighbor kid who was mad about having to cut the grass. The mower was out of gas so he filled the tank with transmission fluid. Somehow he managed to start the engine. It smoked, I fled the scene before his dad killed him. I don’t know how far he got with it. Maybe see how that works, or how long and what will happen.
Thanks for the video idea.
Where I’m committing from back in the days there was a oil that could be used for both. With modern technology oils are much better and engender for specific applications but in reality they not to far apart when looking at “if they can be used”.
Love your videos please keep up👍.
Sorry about those typos 😀
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When I was young and growing up on the farm, I used 2 stroke oil on a 4 stroke lawn mower. Seemed to be ok for the first hour and a half... However, after that hour and a half the engine lost significant power. Shortly there after the engine would seize completely. The first time I thought i broke it as I was not able to pull start thengine. But after it cooled down, I could start it again. Happened about 3 times b 4 I saw what my mistake was.
After replacing the oil with 10W30 it was fine.
Just thought I would share.
Great point. Thank you
Back then there was a lot less oil and more fuel/dispersants in the mix because mixing and getting the oil to burn w/o fouling plugs was the problem. The stuff they make now is thicker, less volatile and burns much more cleanly.
Can i buy that mower?
I figure two stroke oil is meant to run threw a crank case mixed with gas at a cool temperature never getting hot really compared to conventional oil that's meant to run hot so in a two stroke it's not only lubrication but cooling as well because it's not being reused and heated as much so maybe it breaks down and gets thinner under heat because it's supposed to be burned off thus maybe the extra heat makes it extra thin cuasing the extra blow by.... Just an educated guess on maybe why it did what it did.what do you think?
Great point! I believe you're right that it is designed to burn and is designed to become very thin when heated.
I agree the engine is older therefore there is some blow by. The amount of visible blow by is probably a result of the 2 stroke oil is designed to be atomized with gasoline for its intended purpose instead of a motor oil that designed to be stable despite being in severe turbulence/splashing around in a crankcase.
I have got a free kohler toro mower, filled it withxd-100 2 stroke oil and fed it to the carb intake for total loss. The 149cc kohler make a nice 2 stroke conversion mot when i cut port into it. im am thinking of my yz-250 port pattern!
i mow over an achier with it so far so good. I got it for free and it holds up well
it inject into the carb on my kohler and it burn off so ijust add it as it gets low. im running nothing but xd-100 2 stroke synthetic oil
Love your videos. Thanks a lot for these very useful comparisons of products that we use everyday. Your videos gives confidence why we need to spend extra or save.
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I bought two new gokarts 6 years ago, they've had Klotz 2-stoke oil in them from day one.
They have been ridden to death, still running, and absolutely zero engine problems.
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House paint as crank case oil?
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Now that would be fun. lol
After that suggestion . . . You're a real criminal . . . (O_O).
I would honestly feel bad for that engine.
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Do you think there's any difference in the super tech brand products compared to the name brand products? Is there any type of testing you could do to see if there's a quality difference?
I think the quality is similar, but not as good as the premium products. Thank you for this recommendation!
I would like to see the amsoil saber 100:1 stuff compared to the other brands.
Compare the manufacturer labeling on the bottom of the so called "brand name" oil bottom vs. Super tech. You'll be surprised to see that it is the same. Sort of like Motorcraft oil vs valvoline. There's only so many manufacturers....just the labeling determines where it goes and what certain makeup of additives is put in the oil. All oils and fluids have to meet a certain amount of criteria and any oil or fluid on a shelf has to meet it. Yes brand a may be better than super tech in some ways. But super tech will meet the requirements...as will any oil if it has the API certification label on it.
thefordmaniac Klotz or nothing.
Most ST oils are made by Warren Distribution. The conventional oil is API SN, and the full syn is Dexos1/GM certified. Their flagship brand is MAG1, along with a few other brands, but they primarily make private label oils like Supertech. I ran the conventional in my mower with zero issues, used the full syn in one of our vehicles with zero issues, and run the 2cycle in my outboard, again zero issues. So far so good.
I grew up in a cycle shop, 60s and 70s. Our competitor across town used pioneer chain saw 2 cycle oil in all their bikes. New and used. Ordinarily, that might now sound like much, but their bikes were all 4 cycle engines. I always figured it was because they got it at a great price. I do know they never had any oil related problems.
This is interesting. Thanks for commenting on this!
I would love to see a 2 stroke test platform added to the PF lineup. It would be really neat to see how differently the oiling and fuel tests turn out
Thanks for this video project idea! I'll add 2 stoke testing soon.
looking forward to it!
will an ordinary compressed spray such as deodorant like AXE or dove which is flammable be able for an engine to run of off. could it be a replacement to a started spray?
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Yes,. My friend used roach killer, insecticide, to start a old diésel engine and it works
Will a 4 stroke run on warm bacon grease instead of oil in the crankcase??
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there's a video where a guy fries bacon in cooking oil inside a crankcase.... looked delicious...
@matt its this same guy who fried that bacon!
I would end up driving away from work, to a pancake house, if I followed a car in the morning which smelled like bacon!
Awesome video, I had suggested trying 2 stroke oil in a four-stroke crankcase a while back. Thank you for trying this!
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I recently bought some non-ethanol gas for my boat outboard, and also a one-gallon container to use in the lawn mower. By mistake, I added some two-stroke oil into this gas also. . Later when I looked in the lawn mower, the gas was bluish and I realized what I'd done. I thought it might smoke or gum up/damage engine, but to my surprise it ran better! Quieter with a bit more power. That was of course with the normal fill of 30wt. in the 4-stroke mower..
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Could you make a video about the lubricant tester. I still dont understand how it works
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Yes, can you add a tape measure and/or caliper measurements to bearings after testing?
Will synthetic air compressor oil work as a substitute oil for an engine?
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Compressor oil is actually just very refined motor oil so they are pretty much interchangeable. Compressor oil has no distillates or silica to prevent problems with spray painting but that's about the only difference. If you are never going to paint and only use air tools you can run motor oil in your compressor.
ipissed wow thanks! I did not know that
Thanks I really enjoy your videos. I really enjoyed the product tests. Answered a lot of questions I had. I will definitely be swayed now when shopping for products.
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In my Flymo 520 2-stroke hover mower I use 4 stroke engine oil to make the petrol / oil mix.
Have done for more than 40 years. Engine has never been stripped.
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How about lard?
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Will be interesting to see the results.
Lard may actually work reasonably, as long as it has been heated enough to evaporate any residual water.
animal fat surpasses standard 2 stroke oil and vegetable oil, i steer clear of veggie oil!
Pack the crankcase with grease now
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i too vote this.
It would melt and act like some kind of oil I suppose
It will only flow when hot and the engine will be kinda ok till the number of cold starts increases.
We used to use Amsoil synthetic 2 stroke oil in Honda GX160 5.5hp kart race engines. These retimed and race prepped would rev 6000rpm. I changed the oil after every race day. I have never had any kind of problems using this or other brands of synthetic 4 stroke oil.
Impressive!
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Antifreeze as engine lubricant
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antifreeze, even a small amount is death to rod and main bearings.Far worse than the same amount of plain water.
Splungers I know, that's why I want to see it 😉
Yes my request
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man! you got some good tests going on! i clicked the bell!
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Thanks for the vid! Really liked how complete you testing was. Thanks for the extra flush with the MMO. Did you try the filter test to see if there were any metal flacks in the MMO mix?