Did my first oil change without any help from my dad thanks to your video! (Even though I think when he helped me last time he just watched this video first haha.) I love my TU!
If i ever get a motorcycle, i think I'm gonna get one of these. I'm not some ass-wipe adrenaline junky who wants to do 90 in a 30 zone. I've seen several vids and i like this bike.
It is critical that you use motorcycle specific oil of the weight specified in the owners manual. You can’t put car oil in motorcycles that use the same oil to lubricate the transmission and the crankshaft and top end. The reason is, to get more miles per gallon, as requested by the federal government, oil companies removed zinc and phosphorus almost completely from oils used in cars. Zinc and phosphorus are what make oil stand up to Shear. Here is when two surfaces such as gears meshing come together under load..Zinc and phosphorus give oil higher film strength, resistance to sheer. But they reduced the amount of that oil in car oil. That happened in 1989. That’s when oil‘s such as 0W 20 started showing up, One of the motorcycle magazines that report about this change to oils to get more miles per gallon out of our cars in 1989. They actually said, there will be catastrophic motorcycle transmission failures because of the change to car oil’s. One of the motorcycle magazines that report about this change to oil‘s to get more miles per gallon out of our cars in 1989. They actually said, there will be catastrophic motorcycle transmission failures because of the change to car oil’s. luckily, they did not illuminate zinc and phosphorus from the additives package of motorcycle specific oil. You can actually feel when the oil in your motorcycle is worn out. Even if it has as little as 1500 miles on it. You can tell because it becomes difficult to find neutral when you are stopped. And it becomes difficult to shift up through the gears and you start missing shifts for no good reason. That’s when you know your oil is shot no matter how few miles you have on it, when changing your oil. Take your bike out for a 15 minute ride to warm the oil. Do you want to stir up all of the grits, gum, salt, acid, metal particles, and corrosion that gravitate to the bottom of your bikes engine and sit there until the engine is warmed up again, at which point, all of this crap gets suspended in the oil again. Detergent oils keep this crap suspended in the oil so that it can be flushed out of the engine during an oil change. letting the bike idle for five or 10 minutes does not get the oil hot and get all of that crap suspended into the oil so it can be flushed out. Some motorcycle engine oil depending on the bike and the temperature can take as long as an hour for that oil to reach normal operating temperature. Also, letting your bike idle especially an air cold bike, sitting there running without airflow , can overheat the exhaust valve, and the exhaust pipe, turning it blue on some bikes because the idle mixture’s are so lean. So take the bike out for a ride to get the oil warm. When I do an oil change. I do it when I come home from a ride, I pull the drain plug, and I let the oil drain overnight. I have a little sign that I stick my ignition key through and plug it into the ignition in the garage that says “no oil quote, to remind me not to start the bike until I put the drain plug back in and fill the oil.. you would be amazed at how much oil drips out overnight. I always wondered how much more oil would drain out overnight so I put the cap from a can of spray paint under my machine when the oil was done flowing out, and I left that Under the engine overnight. When I put the cap under there it was dripping about one drip every 15 seconds. I thought it was done dripping. boy was I wrong. That Which held about 4 ounces, was overflowing and I had a big puddle on my garage floor. when changing your own oil, you won’t get this in the shop. Fill the oil filter with clean oil and then put it on the machine. That way your engine isn’t running dry until the oil filter fills up with oil. Even if your filter is mounted horizontally, you can still put about four or 6 ounces of oil into an oil filter. keep moving the oil filter around then put some oil in, then move the filter around just to saturate the paper inside the filter. This will reduce the time your engine starved for oil when you restart it. One more tip I learned from the Internet. Never use a Fram filter. Use a HIFLO or an OEM. I worked for a Suzuki Kawasaki Honda dealership years ago. People were putting aftermarket oil filters on their Honda Gold wing‘s that were chromed. They were Chinese crap filters. People who had these filters on their gold wings, and the engines failed due to oil flow problems caused by these filters, Honda would not honor the warranty even though these bikes were under #Warranty. It specifically says in the owners manual, use of non-OEM filters could lead to rejection of any warranty claim. And that did happen. that was big news in the motorcycle shops probably across the country at that time.. use the exact oil and weight specified in your owners manual. If you want to see something surprising, as you drain your oil, run it over a magnet. It is scary the amount of metal that comes out of your engine. And that’s only the magnetic part. The aluminum bits are not magnetic..I did that on my Kawasaki KLR. 650 once.. The shrapnel that came out of that drain plug had me scared. Some chunks that came out in that oil looked like parts of the piston, I got shavings that look like they were part of clutch springs, I got thousands of tiny tiny shiny flakes that look like very fine metallic that you see in paint. And all of that crap is stuff that my oil filter didn’t catch. I wonder how much was in the filter element. That was the first oil change on that bike. I imagine a lot of assembly crap during the process of assembling the engine was in there,I think they do that with propeller airplane engines to analyze ware of things like bearings..Somehow they can tell the condition of the internals of an airplane engine by what’s in the oil they drain out of it
I know it's been ages, but your video is still helpful, and will continue to be as long as there are TUXs out there. For me, which barely knew what a socket was, you've explained it really well. And, the manual doesn't tell you what size are the sockets. At least I couldn't find it. Also, another video mentioned different sized sockets. My mechanic confirmed it's a 17mm for the drain plug and a 10mm for the filter cap bolts. I got surprised by the spring that comes out after you remove the filter cap. The manual mentions it briefly. It's a shame you don't own a Tux anymore, because more videos would be awesome. I am a commuter :) and with the bike being so affordable, it's not so affordable to take it to the mechanic every 3 months because you don't know how to do basic maintenance on it. Changing the oil and filter is a great start, with such a small oil pump/container. Thank you again, happy riding!
Your video gave me the courage to undertake this job. It took me a little long though since it was my first time. Next time it should go faster. It is as easy as it looks but a little messy. I almost used 2 bottles of Mobil 1 to get to full level.
Thanks for this video! I just got my first bike and it is a 2013 TU250x! And believe it or not...I live in California. One of the few TU owners in this state I am sure. Anyways, thanks for this video. Would love to see more videos like this on your TU.
Zachary Norman Congrats on the new TUX! Glad this is helpful. I actually traded in this bike last year for a Honda CB500X, which is better for my long freeway commuting. But the TU250X is still a bike I have a fondness for.
Ay this was really helpful. I've never owned a bike newer than an 82, and so sight glasses were always very cloudy. I got my TU a week ago and noticed it looked low on oil, turns out I didn't think hard enough about holding the bike upright haha.
Perfectly. But before installing the new oil filter you need to soak it with new oil. Otherwise, on the first run time will pause in lubrication. (While impregnated with a new filter) Good instructional video!
@@Jax132 I see some OEM pillion (rear) seats for sale on eBay. But I don't see the main seat. I'm guessing some people pull that rear seat off to make room for a rack, or to do a cafe racer mod. The front seat will probably be harder to find. Might want to post on the TU250X forum to see if someone happens to have one sitting around after replacing it with an aftermarket seat.
Just did my first oil change on the 2015 tux, today. I ran into a one issue during the change. Ready for this? As I was removing the last of the 3 nuts from the oil filter cover, the nut popped loose from my fingers and shot right into the fill cap hole!!!! I was like, wtf did I just do??? After trying to fish it out with a magnetic tool, I then had to remove the entire cover (not sure what you call that), to get it out of there. But in the end, it all turned out well. Thinking next time I'll have to put that filter cap back on once its been drained from below before I change the filter! :) Thanks for putting this video out here!
Great tip on keeping the fill cap hole in place while undoing the three nuts. Thanks to oily gloves, while removing one of them it popped into the air first and then into the oil pan. Luckier than you at least.
@@zhukie Yeah, on this bike I had to roll it forward and backward to take care of the chain. I've got a center stand now and it makes it way easier to clean and lube the chain.
im buy one of this bikes. i love the old skool look to it. kinda looks like a Triumph ina way. i got 2 grand saved up. i have no credit. but the bank said if i put up half they will finance the rest. dude told me that lets the bank know u mean business because ull loose ur money if u default on the loan. but hey im 18 gotta start someplace right? i think ima do the silver too. thx for the vid. keep them up. ull help me keep my bike up and running!
Some people are saying that you could find one for 2000, which is true. Mine was only 1600, but if you're 18 it might be worth the extra money to build some credit and buy it on a loan.
Really popular here in the U.K. and Spain, very similar to the T.u. same performance for the 200cc van as the T.U. But i had one of the last got it last November ,the Euro cull hit them January 2017 so not making anymore. Would have bought a new T.u. but not had them in the U.k. probably 5 years or more. Suzuki are bringing out a baby V Strom 250cc in the summer based on the Inazuma engine ,but heavy i like lightweight bikes now i am getting long in the tooth.
Michael Evans Ah you're in the UK, that explains it. We're just now getting the VanVan here in the US. I think the TU would be a good upgrade from the VanVan if you can get your hands on one. Much more capable on the highway.
jamesmegill It was a great first bike. If I didn't have such a long freeway commute (1 hour each way) I'd have kept it even longer. I did move up to a 500cc eventually because of the commute.
I just got this bike used two weeks ago. It had low miles on it and it is very easy to ride for a beginner like myself. However, I already am in need of more power while riding long straight roads. It is great for the city and twisty roads otherwise. Get a used one rather than new since you will want to upgrade soon.
looks like you forgot mention the spring and rod above the drain plug, now I'm not sure which way to go back first since when I remove the drain plug the three parts came out inside the pen.
Sqeptick , tu250riders.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=21142&p=59411&hilit=detent#p59411, if you didn't have that above your drain plug, you missing something very important.
It turns out i did remove the wrong plug, but the forum mentioned that by draining the "WRONG" plug would let more old oil out (It did), since i already know how to put the shift detent and spring back in, i would drain that same hole again next time, thanks for your video and reply.
Gosh, I don't think so, but it's been a while since I had this bike. But I think I would have mentioned that if so. I suppose you could try an impact wrench, or wave the white flag and take it to a shop.
@@Sqeptick See www.partzilla.com/catalog/suzuki/motorcycle/2009/tu250x/oil-pump part number 18, spring. It is a pressure relief spring. If it is not there the oil filter gets bypassed !!
fede mejia I actually traded it for a bigger bike when it had just 4000 miles (about 6000km). If the 2009 has been well maintained, I doubt it will give you problems. The engine is known to be very reliable. But I would take it to an independent mechanic to make sure the seller isn't hiding anything from you.
Why these companies are not intrested in indian market. India is a very big country please utlais it we dont have any retro style bikes please come to india suzuki 250, yamaha sr400 all are good
8 years later still helping! Thanks a ton 👍🏻
Awesome, thank you for saying that.
Did my first oil change without any help from my dad thanks to your video! (Even though I think when he helped me last time he just watched this video first haha.) I love my TU!
Great job, Kristine! It's not too bad once you dive into it.
Me too in a few days. 🙂
This video saved me from losing the gasket that can easily stick to the used oil filter. Thank you.
Cool, glad it helped.
If i ever get a motorcycle, i think I'm gonna get one of these. I'm not some ass-wipe adrenaline junky who wants to do 90 in a 30 zone. I've seen several vids and i like this bike.
It's a great first bike that you can ride for a couple years and trade up, or keep riding it for a lifetime.
General Zod My thoughts exactly.
Mine is on the way.
you can also buy an old GN250 are almiost identical but actually made in japan, this one is made in suzuki china
@@215alessio The GN250 had 4 valves and carbs but they were made from 1982 to 1988 so they are all very old.
Just changed my oil for the first time! Super easy thanks to your video! Thanks so much
Forrest Ihler Awesome, glad it helped.
It is critical that you use motorcycle specific oil of the weight specified in the owners manual. You can’t put car oil in motorcycles that use the same oil to lubricate the transmission and the crankshaft and top end.
The reason is, to get more miles per gallon, as requested by the federal government, oil companies removed zinc and phosphorus almost completely from oils used in cars. Zinc and phosphorus are what make oil stand up to Shear. Here is when two surfaces such as gears meshing come together under load..Zinc and phosphorus give oil higher film strength, resistance to sheer. But they reduced the amount of that oil in car oil. That happened in 1989. That’s when oil‘s such as 0W 20 started showing up, One of the motorcycle magazines that report about this change to oils to get more miles per gallon out of our cars in 1989. They actually said, there will be catastrophic motorcycle transmission failures because of the change to car oil’s.
One of the motorcycle magazines that report about this change to oil‘s to get more miles per gallon out of our cars in 1989. They actually said, there will be catastrophic motorcycle transmission failures because of the change to car oil’s.
luckily, they did not illuminate zinc and phosphorus from the additives package of motorcycle specific oil.
You can actually feel when the oil in your motorcycle is worn out. Even if it has as little as 1500 miles on it. You can tell because it becomes difficult to find neutral when you are stopped. And it becomes difficult to shift up through the gears and you start missing shifts for no good reason. That’s when you know your oil is shot no matter how few miles you have on it,
when changing your oil. Take your bike out for a 15 minute ride to warm the oil. Do you want to stir up all of the grits, gum, salt, acid, metal particles, and corrosion that gravitate to the bottom of your bikes engine and sit there until the engine is warmed up again, at which point, all of this crap gets suspended in the oil again. Detergent oils keep this crap suspended in the oil so that it can be flushed out of the engine during an oil change. letting the bike idle for five or 10 minutes does not get the oil hot and get all of that crap suspended into the oil so it can be flushed out. Some motorcycle engine oil depending on the bike and the temperature can take as long as an hour for that oil to reach normal operating temperature. Also, letting your bike idle especially an air cold bike, sitting there running without airflow , can overheat the exhaust valve, and the exhaust pipe, turning it blue on some bikes because the idle mixture’s are so lean. So take the bike out for a ride to get the oil warm. When I do an oil change. I do it when I come home from a ride, I pull the drain plug, and I let the oil drain overnight. I have a little sign that I stick my ignition key through and plug it into the ignition in the garage that says “no oil quote, to remind me not to start the bike until I put the drain plug back in and fill the oil.. you would be amazed at how much oil drips out overnight. I always wondered how much more oil would drain out overnight so I put the cap from a can of spray paint under my machine when the oil was done flowing out, and I left that Under the engine overnight. When I put the cap under there it was dripping about one drip every 15 seconds. I thought it was done dripping. boy was I wrong. That Which held about 4 ounces, was overflowing and I had a big puddle on my garage floor.
when changing your own oil, you won’t get this in the shop. Fill the oil filter with clean oil and then put it on the machine. That way your engine isn’t running dry until the oil filter fills up with oil. Even if your filter is mounted horizontally, you can still put about four or 6 ounces of oil into an oil filter. keep moving the oil filter around then put some oil in, then move the filter around just to saturate the paper inside the filter. This will reduce the time your engine starved for oil when you restart it.
One more tip I learned from the Internet. Never use a Fram filter. Use a HIFLO or an OEM. I worked for a Suzuki Kawasaki Honda dealership years ago. People were putting aftermarket oil filters on their Honda Gold wing‘s that were chromed. They were Chinese crap filters. People who had these filters on their gold wings, and the engines failed due to oil flow problems caused by these filters, Honda would not honor the warranty even though these bikes were under #Warranty. It specifically says in the owners manual, use of non-OEM filters could lead to rejection of any warranty claim. And that did happen. that was big news in the motorcycle shops probably across the country at that time..
use the exact oil and weight specified in your owners manual. If you want to see something surprising, as you drain your oil, run it over a magnet. It is scary the amount of metal that comes out of your engine. And that’s only the magnetic part. The aluminum bits are not magnetic..I did that on my Kawasaki KLR. 650 once.. The shrapnel that came out of that drain plug had me scared. Some chunks that came out in that oil looked like parts of the piston, I got shavings that look like they were part of clutch springs, I got thousands of tiny tiny shiny flakes that look like very fine metallic that you see in paint. And all of that crap is stuff that my oil filter didn’t catch. I wonder how much was in the filter element. That was the first oil change on that bike. I imagine a lot of assembly crap during the process of assembling the engine was in there,I think they do that with propeller airplane engines to analyze ware of things like bearings..Somehow they can tell the condition of the internals of an airplane engine by what’s in the oil they drain out of it
True. Hopefully that's clear in the video.
I know it's been ages, but your video is still helpful, and will continue to be as long as there are TUXs out there. For me, which barely knew what a socket was, you've explained it really well. And, the manual doesn't tell you what size are the sockets. At least I couldn't find it. Also, another video mentioned different sized sockets. My mechanic confirmed it's a 17mm for the drain plug and a 10mm for the filter cap bolts. I got surprised by the spring that comes out after you remove the filter cap. The manual mentions it briefly. It's a shame you don't own a Tux anymore, because more videos would be awesome. I am a commuter :) and with the bike being so affordable, it's not so affordable to take it to the mechanic every 3 months because you don't know how to do basic maintenance on it. Changing the oil and filter is a great start, with such a small oil pump/container. Thank you again, happy riding!
I appreciate that, and I'm glad this might save you a bit of money. The tu250x is a great little bike, perfect for some situations. Enjoy it!
Nicely done! Good tips on reusing the o-rings.
+KC TUX Thanks. Looking forward to your vids as the weather gets better...maybe you could do some similar "maintenance" videos this summer.
Your video gave me the courage to undertake this job. It took me a little long though since it was my first time. Next time it should go faster. It is as easy as it looks but a little messy. I almost used 2 bottles of Mobil 1 to get to full level.
Glad you got it done. Brings you closer to your bike. 😁
Thanks for this video! I just got my first bike and it is a 2013 TU250x! And believe it or not...I live in California. One of the few TU owners in this state I am sure.
Anyways, thanks for this video. Would love to see more videos like this on your TU.
Zachary Norman Congrats on the new TUX! Glad this is helpful. I actually traded in this bike last year for a Honda CB500X, which is better for my long freeway commuting. But the TU250X is still a bike I have a fondness for.
Looks so simple. Thanks!
TobinhoDiaz It is, and you're welcome.
Ay this was really helpful. I've never owned a bike newer than an 82, and so sight glasses were always very cloudy. I got my TU a week ago and noticed it looked low on oil, turns out I didn't think hard enough about holding the bike upright haha.
Glad to be of service, Patrick. Good luck with your new TUX.
Perfectly. But before installing the new oil filter you need to soak it with new oil. Otherwise, on the first run time will pause in lubrication. (While impregnated with a new filter) Good instructional video!
Great point, Thanks!
Hey thanks for the vid, it was exactly what I needed. I do need to know though where you got that seat? Looks sick
That's a stock seat. Did yours come with something different?
@@Sqeptick yeah but i got it second hand, i'll look online for options
@@Jax132 I see some OEM pillion (rear) seats for sale on eBay. But I don't see the main seat. I'm guessing some people pull that rear seat off to make room for a rack, or to do a cafe racer mod. The front seat will probably be harder to find. Might want to post on the TU250X forum to see if someone happens to have one sitting around after replacing it with an aftermarket seat.
Just did my first oil change on the 2015 tux, today. I ran into a one issue during the change. Ready for this? As I was removing the last of the 3 nuts from the oil filter cover, the nut popped loose from my fingers and shot right into the fill cap hole!!!! I was like, wtf did I just do??? After trying to fish it out with a magnetic tool, I then had to remove the entire cover (not sure what you call that), to get it out of there. But in the end, it all turned out well. Thinking next time I'll have to put that filter cap back on once its been drained from below before I change the filter! :) Thanks for putting this video out here!
Thanks, and glad you were able to recover everything.
thanks ,with my shit irish luck i would probably do the same thing
Great tip on keeping the fill cap hole in place while undoing the three nuts. Thanks to oily gloves, while removing one of them it popped into the air first and then into the oil pan. Luckier than you at least.
Thank you for the great video, I feel more confident doing this now. I hope you drank that beverage!
Great! I did drink it, but sadly that's a non-alcoholic beer.
0:21 I was surprised to see how far the exhaust hangs below the bike.
Not for off roading without serious mods.
@@Sqeptick Unfortunately no paddock stands will fit making chain cleaning difficult.
@@zhukie Yeah, on this bike I had to roll it forward and backward to take care of the chain. I've got a center stand now and it makes it way easier to clean and lube the chain.
Nice video.
Thanks!
Best NA Beer out there! good vid...thx!
im buy one of this bikes. i love the old skool look to it. kinda looks like a Triumph ina way. i got 2 grand saved up. i have no credit. but the bank said if i put up half they will finance the rest. dude told me that lets the bank know u mean business because ull loose ur money if u default on the loan. but hey im 18 gotta start someplace right? i think ima do the silver too. thx for the vid. keep them up. ull help me keep my bike up and running!
Charles Graham For $2K you should be able to buy a used one... save yourself a loan.
Did you end up getting the bike?
you can find them for 2 grand
Some people are saying that you could find one for 2000, which is true. Mine was only 1600, but if you're 18 it might be worth the extra money to build some credit and buy it on a loan.
Sweet little bike! My favorite part was the beverage!
+HardWayFarms I would figure your favorite part would be the side panel decals.
Sqeptick I like those too!
HMMM...looks like you have a fan Sqeptick!
Great video
Thanks, Mark.
Good tutorial ,very similar to my Suzuki 200cc van van ,and if like me you only do 1500 miles a year great little runaround.
Michael Evans You're the first person I've heard of with a VanVan.
Really popular here in the U.K. and Spain, very similar to the T.u. same performance for the 200cc van as the T.U. But i had one of the last got it last November ,the Euro cull hit them January 2017 so not making anymore. Would have bought a new T.u. but not had them in the U.k. probably 5 years or more. Suzuki are bringing out a baby V Strom 250cc in the summer based on the Inazuma engine ,but heavy i like lightweight bikes now i am getting long in the tooth.
Michael Evans Ah you're in the UK, that explains it. We're just now getting the VanVan here in the US. I think the TU would be a good upgrade from the VanVan if you can get your hands on one. Much more capable on the highway.
Very helpful. Thank you!
You're welcome.
How do you like the bike overall? Thinking about this bike for my first bike. Thanks,jim
jamesmegill It was a great first bike. If I didn't have such a long freeway commute (1 hour each way) I'd have kept it even longer. I did move up to a 500cc eventually because of the commute.
@@Sqeptick 500 what?
@@brianmurphy2382 Honda CB500X. th-cam.com/video/uB2Duz9IAgk/w-d-xo.html
I just got this bike used two weeks ago. It had low miles on it and it is very easy to ride for a beginner like myself. However, I already am in need of more power while riding long straight roads. It is great for the city and twisty roads otherwise. Get a used one rather than new since you will want to upgrade soon.
looks like you forgot mention the spring and rod above the drain plug, now I'm not sure which way to go back first since when I remove the drain plug the three parts came out inside the pen.
never mind, I found the answer in tu250riders.com
sssgeneral Yeah, it sounds like maybe you pulled the wrong plug.
Sqeptick , tu250riders.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=21142&p=59411&hilit=detent#p59411,
if you didn't have that above your drain plug, you missing something very important.
sssgeneral If you had the shifter detent above the plug, you opened the wrong plug.
It turns out i did remove the wrong plug, but the forum mentioned that by draining the "WRONG" plug would let more old oil out (It did), since i already know how to put the shift detent and spring back in, i would drain that same hole again next time, thanks for your video and reply.
The Incredible Hulk installed my sump plug I cant budge it. Is it reverse threaded or something?
Gosh, I don't think so, but it's been a while since I had this bike. But I think I would have mentioned that if so. I suppose you could try an impact wrench, or wave the white flag and take it to a shop.
What happened to the Spring at 3:45 ?
Not sure I'm seeing what you're seeing.
@@Sqeptick See www.partzilla.com/catalog/suzuki/motorcycle/2009/tu250x/oil-pump part number 18, spring. It is a pressure relief spring. If it is not there the oil filter gets bypassed !!
Thanks for the helpful video👍
You're welcome, thanks for checking it out.
Ilove this bike, but I notice there's no kick start..
Nope, no kickstarter. The only bike that's kind of in this class with one that I know of is the sr400.
How tall are you? Is this bike comfy for 6'"2 person?
5'11". Might be a little small for you to be honest.
What mileage does your motorcycle have? Do you think there is no problem if I buy a suzuki 250 x 2009 with 25000 km
fede mejia I actually traded it for a bigger bike when it had just 4000 miles (about 6000km). If the 2009 has been well maintained, I doubt it will give you problems. The engine is known to be very reliable. But I would take it to an independent mechanic to make sure the seller isn't hiding anything from you.
thank you very much
fede mejia FYI I purchased a 2009 with 25,000km on it about six months ago. Runs perfectly. Wouldn't be too worried about mileage.
What oil are you using ? Does it have to be car oil 10w 40
Thanh, I put the links to the oil and oil filter in the description of this video.
Why these companies are not intrested in indian market. India is a very big country please utlais it we dont have any retro style bikes please come to india suzuki 250, yamaha sr400 all are good
Ajo joseph You have Royal Enfield though, but their quality isn't quite as good as the Japanese bikes.
The oil you posted is not the same at all!
They may have changed the product to the link, Nils. I'll take a look, thanks for letting me know.
I think 1500 ml is to much