I was using MC and fischl but I’m probably gonna use razor now that I have him I would’ve preferred just about any five star seeing as I have no five stars I’m ftp and I’m too lazy to reroll I think I’ve done 40 or 50 pulls on the venti banner still no five star 😭
SpiritGaming yeah I will I just really wanted a five star but my luck has been so bad (Also which characters should I use with him I have fischl, Barbara, Xiangling, Bennett, Noelle, and all the starters)
You still need Elemental Mastery for the reactions that you would make using Razor (buffs dmg of Overload, swirl etc.) So its not technically bad if you have a bit of those aside raw attack Also the best dps team you can build as a f2p (dps wise) would be Razor, Fischl, Xiangling, Anemo MC (or Venti) since the Xiang and Fischl will constantly apply Overload cos of their low cd skills + Swirl Though you will need Barbara's heals in higher abyss so you might need to swap out anemo for her
Once you get barbara everything chages since xiangling does not work well with barbara. I also thought about that team but it didnt work out as well as the barbara team did oh and we need a cryo character otherwise the damage wont be nearly as good. And as for the elemntal mastery yes it will increase the damage by a bit but our main damage comes from normal attacks and not elemental combinations. As you can see in wold form you are still getting white numbers which are the normal attacks. That means elemental mastery goes after normal atk damage hence why i said it was bad
@@SpiritGaming_SG oh you must be building a Razor team which is centered around his raw normal attacks then my bad. So superconductor would be really handy as the main reaction (minus Pdef), though Qiqi is not really ideal if used as a reactor mainly since she has high cd skills so you might also consider Chongyun or Kaeya as substitute since they have better cryo skills that can apply effects with lower cd. Also add that 2 healers isnt ideal in a team imo, you will lack in terms of dps But imo Overload dmg is just insane (+effective against shields) thats why Im building mine centered around making that reaction and just not put in Barbara for my Anemo slot
Chongyung makes it so you lose the normal attack damage so that is out of the plan. While it is true qiqi wont hive you damage at all but you do not need it since the whole team is built around the main dps which is razor and his ultimate form which he gets to use every 20 deconds
@@SpiritGaming_SG oh sht forgot that Chongyun's E will be wasted mb but my point being is Qiqi is bad as a cryo reactor for superconduct Then the comp that you're currently running (with kaeya)can potentially be the best version of it I guess, though Im thinking maybe Jean healer instead of Barbara to help spread Ice through Swirl but I havent tested that one yet x.x
I think qiqi is still better coz you need superconduct every 8 seconds oh and barbara is basically a must have coz tou need to apply effects for 15 seconds straight not just 8 and if you use razor ult and switch to a different character the ult will be wasted
Superconduct is by far the best elemental combo for Razor the way I understand it. Superconduct doesnt depend much on elemental mastery because what it does is reduce the physical armor of enemies by 50% (from what I read). And Razor being a hitter class playstyle mostly revolves on physical damage. Electrocharge on the other hand is okayish but wont deal much damage since it scales off elemental mastery which you dont build in Razor. And the same case for overload. The team I think would fit him best would be: Razor - Qiqi - Fischl - Jean/Venti (preferably Jean) 1. Razor for the DPS 2. Qiqi is just the best support + healer for him for the cryo + good heal 3. Fischl will add a good amount of dps and will help Razor with applying constant Electro and make his energy recharge faster 4. Jean will complement Razor's playstyle of staying upfront in battle for extended fights by laying down the healing field. Venti can make Razor burst groups of enemies with her vacuum; and Venti makes a great team with Fischl's Oz.
Yes super conduct is one of the best elemental procs but you only need to proc it every 8 seconds instead of every hit. Overload does the most single target damage out of any elemental procs while electro charge does the most aoe damage because the charge stays and each time you auto attack it procs.
I am maining him till the end, his wolf form is good for crowded fights and if paired with rainslasher increases damage to electro/hydro inflicted enemies.😂
Right now I'm using qiqi, xiangling, fischl alongside razor; is barbara really that good? I feel like Xiangling brings a lot to the table as a support. Also do you know when prototype animus becomes better than refinement 5 debate club? Right now I have refinement 2 prototype animus at level 50 and it seems weaker.
I use barbara, razor, fischl, and qiqi. I use qiqi's E, switch to fischl's E, switch to barbara to proc the dragon tale's effect for 48% extra damage, then switch to razor. He consistently burst 1500+ attack using a lvl 50 debate club
Damn, I dont have good heroes to pair with Razor. My team composition mostly consists of Geos; C2 Ningguang (Main DPS) C5 Geo MC (Sub DPS) C0 Razor C0 Kaeya This doesn't give me the most elemental reactions needed but it can kill most enemies tho. Geo currently is my strongest lineup :/ But my team before is the same but with 2 Pyros; C1 Xinyan C0 Xiangling Any suggestions? Im sticking with Ningguang only because she is one of my only best heroes.
razor is my main dps too but i need advice about team now my team is xiangling razor venti barbara but other i have fischl ningguang and chongyun cn u advice me what is the best team for razor? i stuck in abyss spiral 4th floor
Anyone can tell me like ive been wondering for quite some times now. My razor lvl is 40 now but the damage he does is like around 300~500 only even with a critical. Is that normal or do i need to change some things on him ? I feel like giving up on making him my main dps for the team. Tell me what to do 😭
I used rainslasher and elemental mastery artifacts and one electro dmg bonus artifact, it is very effective with pyro or hydro character, it still depends on your playstyle
Yes it really does. You can build characters differently. For example im building my razor right now as a bruiser instead of just full DPS. Basically i have atk and def on a lot of my artifacts and even the weapon. It all comes to personal prefernce n the end
I have the same party as yours (with fischl and barbara) but i use Kaeya for Dispatched missions. I am looking for someone to replace him. I have Venti but I dnt like him. lol I'm torn between Mona and Xiangling. Any thoughts?
Xiangling is a really good partner for both Razor and Fischl. Her burst is basically the pyro version of Kaeyas but with better range. You proc overloaded so many times in a row for huge damage
I dont have Qiqi but Kaeya.Can I use him instead of Qiqi since he also applies cryo with his e and then I can go into super conduct and Barbara can be there for heals.
hello spiritgaming bro. I have Razor, Fischl, Qiqi in my team. i am undecided with my fourth. My choices are Sucrose c1 for aoe swirl, and Xiangling for overload. Which one is better?
Quick tip : better use mona instead of barbara in the "p2p" team, and use the prototype claymore. Reasons : with qiqi u already have a healer and a cryo debuff, and with the combo of Mona's ult + prototype claymore, u will deal HUGE damage
Im using Sacrificial Greatsword but i want that Rainslasher so bad.. it has 40% chance to reset skill cooldown.. if it procs and ulti is ready.. razor can perform 3x skills in a row.. with xiangling ulti and barbara's E,razor's hold skill do good damage.. great vid as always.. ;)
I'm lvling my debate club to lvl 50 and max refined it. On paper the calculation should be as follows: The debate club has 120% atk every 3 seconds for 15 seconds, so 120%*5 should be 600% per 15 seconds, compared to the aminus which only has 240% per 15 seconds, and yeah I'm planning to continue using my debate club until my razor got *5 claymore
Made new acc today and pulled Razor, Beidou, Barbara, Kaeya and Favonius sword for him. Damage is nuts on Razor and Beidou's ulti stays on him. Any thoughts on that comp? Btw it's Kaya, not Kiya :)
@@saiyukirengoku3023 Did all pulls from standard one, didn't want Venti or all thos XL and Fischls like I have on my another AR30 acc lol. Now need only Fischl and Bennett for some experiments
I literally got Razor today and started trying out the team. Razor's big thing is energy generation and in that way, he can facilitate more damage than Chongyun, but I have to admit, I kind of miss Chongyun's crowd control potential with Barbara, since constantly freezing everyone around you made a lot of teleporting enemies a lot easier. However, if you face a geo enemy, Razor + Xiangliang just tears them to shreds, so it's a matter of offensive vs. defensive preference. Spiral Abyss favors offense though.
@@SpiritGaming_SG its kinda situational, chongyu elemental skill can be combo into a supeconduct and the cryo buff works if razor is facing electro enemy
If anyone is here, I’d like to take some time out of your day for a favor. I have razor, amber, Xiangling, Barbara, Xingqiu, keqing, chongyun, mc, noelle, sucrose, Lisa, and finally Kaeya. If anyone can recommend me a party Thank you.
Comment down below on what DPS character are you using and why.
Xiang and flench and keay😂😂
I was using MC and fischl but I’m probably gonna use razor now that I have him I would’ve preferred just about any five star seeing as I have no five stars I’m ftp and I’m too lazy to reroll I think I’ve done 40 or 50 pulls on the venti banner still no five star 😭
Trust me use razor he is a better dps than a lot of other 5 stars
SpiritGaming yeah I will I just really wanted a five star but my luck has been so bad
(Also which characters should I use with him I have fischl, Barbara, Xiangling, Bennett, Noelle, and all the starters)
@@someoneontheinternet6671 razod,fischl,keya,barbara
Amazing guide man!! Iam using razor as dps but I was looking for a team setup and rotation skill guide, this was rlly helpful thx a lot and suscribe.
Yayy another vid, thanks sm spirit x
You still need Elemental Mastery for the reactions that you would make using Razor (buffs dmg of Overload, swirl etc.) So its not technically bad if you have a bit of those aside raw attack
Also the best dps team you can build as a f2p (dps wise) would be Razor, Fischl, Xiangling, Anemo MC (or Venti) since the Xiang and Fischl will constantly apply Overload cos of their low cd skills + Swirl
Though you will need Barbara's heals in higher abyss so you might need to swap out anemo for her
Once you get barbara everything chages since xiangling does not work well with barbara. I also thought about that team but it didnt work out as well as the barbara team did oh and we need a cryo character otherwise the damage wont be nearly as good. And as for the elemntal mastery yes it will increase the damage by a bit but our main damage comes from normal attacks and not elemental combinations. As you can see in wold form you are still getting white numbers which are the normal attacks. That means elemental mastery goes after normal atk damage hence why i said it was bad
@@SpiritGaming_SG oh you must be building a Razor team which is centered around his raw normal attacks then my bad. So superconductor would be really handy as the main reaction (minus Pdef), though Qiqi is not really ideal if used as a reactor mainly since she has high cd skills so you might also consider Chongyun or Kaeya as substitute since they have better cryo skills that can apply effects with lower cd. Also add that 2 healers isnt ideal in a team imo, you will lack in terms of dps
But imo Overload dmg is just insane (+effective against shields) thats why Im building mine centered around making that reaction and just not put in Barbara for my Anemo slot
Chongyung makes it so you lose the normal attack damage so that is out of the plan. While it is true qiqi wont hive you damage at all but you do not need it since the whole team is built around the main dps which is razor and his ultimate form which he gets to use every 20 deconds
@@SpiritGaming_SG oh sht forgot that Chongyun's E will be wasted mb but my point being is Qiqi is bad as a cryo reactor for superconduct
Then the comp that you're currently running (with kaeya)can potentially be the best version of it I guess, though Im thinking maybe Jean healer instead of Barbara to help spread Ice through Swirl but I havent tested that one yet x.x
I think qiqi is still better coz you need superconduct every 8 seconds oh and barbara is basically a must have coz tou need to apply effects for 15 seconds straight not just 8 and if you use razor ult and switch to a different character the ult will be wasted
Superconduct is by far the best elemental combo for Razor the way I understand it.
Superconduct doesnt depend much on elemental mastery because what it does is reduce the physical armor of enemies by 50% (from what I read). And Razor being a hitter class playstyle mostly revolves on physical damage. Electrocharge on the other hand is okayish but wont deal much damage since it scales off elemental mastery which you dont build in Razor. And the same case for overload.
The team I think would fit him best would be:
Razor - Qiqi - Fischl - Jean/Venti (preferably Jean)
1. Razor for the DPS
2. Qiqi is just the best support + healer for him for the cryo + good heal
3. Fischl will add a good amount of dps and will help Razor with applying constant Electro and make his energy recharge faster
4. Jean will complement Razor's playstyle of staying upfront in battle for extended fights by laying down the healing field. Venti can make Razor burst groups of enemies with her vacuum; and Venti makes a great team with Fischl's Oz.
Yes super conduct is one of the best elemental procs but you only need to proc it every 8 seconds instead of every hit. Overload does the most single target damage out of any elemental procs while electro charge does the most aoe damage because the charge stays and each time you auto attack it procs.
just wanted to let you know venti is a dude. just.. ah.. just sayin.
SpiritGaming ooh thank you. So it's alright to go for an Overload combo even without elemental mastery?
@@UltimatePrinceofBB yes it is, razors main damage still comes from auto attacks
I am maining him till the end, his wolf form is good for crowded fights and if paired with rainslasher increases damage to electro/hydro inflicted enemies.😂
Right now I'm using qiqi, xiangling, fischl alongside razor; is barbara really that good? I feel like Xiangling brings a lot to the table as a support.
Also do you know when prototype animus becomes better than refinement 5 debate club? Right now I have refinement 2 prototype animus at level 50 and it seems weaker.
Xiangling is not a support.
Yep she is. She can be both dps or a support. That is why xiang is one of the best 4 stars
same question about the debate club :(
I use barbara, razor, fischl, and qiqi. I use qiqi's E, switch to fischl's E, switch to barbara to proc the dragon tale's effect for 48% extra damage, then switch to razor. He consistently burst 1500+ attack using a lvl 50 debate club
Not to mention you can pretty much use razor's ulti indefinitely when having fiscl if you time it correctly
Damn, I dont have good heroes to pair with Razor. My team composition mostly consists of Geos;
C2 Ningguang (Main DPS)
C5 Geo MC (Sub DPS)
C0 Razor
C0 Kaeya
This doesn't give me the most elemental reactions needed but it can kill most enemies tho. Geo currently is my strongest lineup :/
But my team before is the same but with 2 Pyros;
C1 Xinyan
C0 Xiangling
Any suggestions? Im sticking with Ningguang only because she is one of my only best heroes.
razor is my main dps too but i need advice about team now my team is xiangling razor venti barbara but other i have fischl ningguang and chongyun
cn u advice me what is the best team for razor? i stuck in abyss spiral 4th floor
That team is good but try using fischl instead of xiangling. And make sure you are using the 3 star book for barbara called thrilling dragon.
@@SpiritGaming_SG debate club and skyrider greatsword which is better?
@@kronosx7745 It was my bad that i did not mention skyrider but skyrider is better sorry about that
@@SpiritGaming_SG thank you so much
@@SpiritGaming_SG so replace xiaoliang with fischl? Razor+venti+fischl+barbara?
If only razor's ultimate burst was better by it not disappearing after changing characters
Razor's is spose to be a dps, so it doesn't actually matter if his skills stay
If so, it would very op, if u change to diluc or one hand sword user, it will totally op
Yeet with diluc, use razor ult and attacc, back to diluc yeet again, and razor again would be damn OP
is xinyan razor diona and sucrose good?
Anyone can tell me like ive been wondering for quite some times now. My razor lvl is 40 now but the damage he does is like around 300~500 only even with a critical. Is that normal or do i need to change some things on him ? I feel like giving up on making him my main dps for the team. Tell me what to do 😭
Can u help me with this
I've Venti, Razor, Xiangling, Mona, Barbara, Fischl, Chongyun
Which team should I use for abyss or for normal and damage?
I used rainslasher and elemental mastery artifacts and one electro dmg bonus artifact, it is very effective with pyro or hydro character, it still depends on your playstyle
Yes it really does. You can build characters differently. For example im building my razor right now as a bruiser instead of just full DPS. Basically i have atk and def on a lot of my artifacts and even the weapon. It all comes to personal prefernce n the end
I have the same party as yours (with fischl and barbara) but i use Kaeya for Dispatched missions. I am looking for someone to replace him. I have Venti but I dnt like him. lol I'm torn between Mona and Xiangling. Any thoughts?
Xiangling is a really good partner for both Razor and Fischl. Her burst is basically the pyro version of Kaeyas but with better range. You proc overloaded so many times in a row for huge damage
I dont have Qiqi but Kaeya.Can I use him instead of Qiqi since he also applies cryo with his e and then I can go into super conduct and Barbara can be there for heals.
Please do fischl .. these videos are so helpful
I have Prototype Aminus (refinement rank 2) and Rainslasher (refinement rank 1). Which one is better ?
I have the same doubt too
prototype is better
I just add team :
Razor DPS
Xiangling Support
Qiqi Healer
And Surcrosce
This is my core team too!
What makes sucrose good
hello spiritgaming bro. I have Razor, Fischl, Qiqi in my team. i am undecided with my fourth. My choices are Sucrose c1 for aoe swirl, and Xiangling for overload. Which one is better?
i like xiangling more :D but it is up to you
@@SpiritGaming_SG Thank you for your response. 😇
Bro physical DMG bonus% is better than ATK%
Razor, Keqing, Mona and barbara is this team good?
Hi, i have a question: what abou Royal greatsword? i have protype, white blind and royal, i am struggling to choose one for him really.
@SpiritGaming
Prototype or Debate club both enhances his basic attack
Quick tip : better use mona instead of barbara in the "p2p" team, and use the prototype claymore.
Reasons : with qiqi u already have a healer and a cryo debuff, and with the combo of Mona's ult + prototype claymore, u will deal HUGE damage
Which one better? Prototype aminus or skyward greatsword?
proto
Im using Sacrificial Greatsword but i want that Rainslasher so bad.. it has 40% chance to reset skill cooldown.. if it procs and ulti is ready.. razor can perform 3x skills in a row.. with xiangling ulti and barbara's E,razor's hold skill do good damage.. great vid as always.. ;)
Yup i have it and its crazy
Would you recommend a max refined 3 star weapon over a 0 refines 4 star?
Depends on the weapon but a lot of the times yes
No you will regret like me just craft 4 stars weapon as you can craft more as you expand map or kill boss and refine it to max
is debate club max refinement better than prototype aminus no refinement?
I'm lvling my debate club to lvl 50 and max refined it. On paper the calculation should be as follows: The debate club has 120% atk every 3 seconds for 15 seconds, so 120%*5 should be 600% per 15 seconds, compared to the aminus which only has 240% per 15 seconds, and yeah I'm planning to continue using my debate club until my razor got *5 claymore
For me i will aim for max refined aminus which is better than debateclub and better than unrefind 5 stars
Is it okry to use barbara E beidou ult kaeya ss then razor?
Always use barbara before razor
@@SpiritGaming_SG wow that was fast reply thank you! Barbara kaeya beidou razor is that a good lineup
@@saynaiyub3805 Yup it is totaly fine
@@SpiritGaming_SG thank youuu nice guide btw ♥️♥️
For weapons, what about skyrider greatsword? Idky but it feels stronger to me than bloodtainted greatsword
Yup it is really good i made a mistake there. Especially since with razor you are using him for 15 seconds so yeah that sword is awsomr
Do you recommend using Mona in a team with razor?
Yes however if you are using mona then you have to use qiqi
Razor, venti, fischl, Barbara its a good team?
yes it is good
how was it?
Made new acc today and pulled Razor, Beidou, Barbara, Kaeya and Favonius sword for him. Damage is nuts on Razor and Beidou's ulti stays on him. Any thoughts on that comp? Btw it's Kaya, not Kiya :)
Which banner did u pull from?
@@saiyukirengoku3023 Did all pulls from standard one, didn't want Venti or all thos XL and Fischls like I have on my another AR30 acc lol. Now need only Fischl and Bennett for some experiments
@@overbe Thx for the info bro 👍
Is Razor better or chongyun? My team has fischl, and xiangling
I literally got Razor today and started trying out the team. Razor's big thing is energy generation and in that way, he can facilitate more damage than Chongyun, but I have to admit, I kind of miss Chongyun's crowd control potential with Barbara, since constantly freezing everyone around you made a lot of teleporting enemies a lot easier. However, if you face a geo enemy, Razor + Xiangliang just tears them to shreds, so it's a matter of offensive vs. defensive preference. Spiral Abyss favors offense though.
1st and thx for the guide
He's gone 😭
I joined the game late that's why I didn't have much starglitter
I hope he comes back later 😭
Yeah, I was about to miss out on him and then I lucked into a 5star weapon which gives 10 starglitter - was happier to get Razor than the weapon lol
Is razor ,chongyun, fishl,xingqui good?
Chongyun decreases Razor's damage
Chong yu also work well with razor
No he is actually the worst one to combo with razor!! It will make it so razor loses damage coz he is gonna make razor do cryo damage
@@SpiritGaming_SG its kinda situational, chongyu elemental skill can be combo into a supeconduct and the cryo buff works if razor is facing electro enemy
Bro this team sucks if your fighting against electric type of monster any advice?
Yes use razors auto attacks to one shot them anyway :D
I think for that case razor, fischl, xiangling, barbara will be good
Well the main point is to create superconduct and just wham the enemy with your boosted attack speed
How Tf u doing 500 damage at level 40 brus I can barely hit 200
its cause its artifacts and weapon upgrades
I have razor 500 + dmg at level 40
I used
Weapon - prototype aminus
Artifact - berserker set
I have diluc but not razor
Can you add subbed Indonesian innyour video ?
Im not indo so no :D
If anyone is here, I’d like to take some time out of your day for a favor. I have razor, amber, Xiangling, Barbara, Xingqiu, keqing, chongyun, mc, noelle, sucrose, Lisa, and finally Kaeya. If anyone can recommend me a party Thank you.
wow must be nice
Wow wow luky luky
Xiang Ling, Venti, Barbara, Fishchl combo is op
What does that have to do with this video