WOW, great video I had already quickly seen a training system on the counterweight, this is very practical because no more space is needed at the top of the shaft or at the bottom and in addition a Ziehl-Abegg motor. For once I like an MRL lift, thank you for this video ;D
Yea, it's really an interesting and innovative concept. I first thought I encountered a normal set of lifts here but then I opened the shaft, got on top and was confused to not find any motor in the shaft head, nor did the ropes go through the holes in the ceiling. Then while going down I realized that the motor was on the counterweight and that I finally found one of these lifts for which I have been looking for for a long time. I'm glad you like the video!
@@lbuuk8139 I tend to say that there's just no creative thinking going on in the UK lift business. In Germany however you will find lots of creative and new solutions, like the Osma belt drive MRLs just to name another example.
The buffer is kept on the right side of the big counterweight and on the right side of the small counterweight, directly underneath the ropes. Where the grey painted metal plate is, so that it doesn't interfere with the travelling cable.
This is a COMPLETLY new thing for me, these have the motor on the counter weight, these are great! 😮 Also, will this be considered an MRL. Also why did they put it on the counter weight, I mean it’s cool, but manufacturers don’t like “cool” things, they want some thing economically efficient, also I imagine the maintenance worker having a hard time fixing the lift. 😅
If you know where to look, you will indeed find interesting things in the lift world that you might not have deemed possible. This here was one of them to me. Maintenance on these lifts is done by the company who manufactured them, Diethelm. As I've already mentioned on the other video, they make really interesting innovative stuff. As long as there is no fault on the motor or the drive, maintenance should not be an issue. Also regarding power: There simply is a hanging cable underneath the counterweight, just as with the lift car. You can see it in the video.
Diese Konstruktion ist in der Tat speziell und momentan wohl auch noch eine ziemliche Rarität. Aber die Zeit wird zeigen, wie gut sich diese Idee durchsetzt.
Schöne Aufzüge, frohe Ostern, und herzlichen Glückwunsch zu denn 500 Abos!
Danke vielmal, dir auch frohe Ostern!
WOW, great video I had already quickly seen a training system on the counterweight, this is very practical because no more space is needed at the top of the shaft or at the bottom and in addition a Ziehl-Abegg motor.
For once I like an MRL lift, thank you for this video ;D
Yea, it's really an interesting and innovative concept. I first thought I encountered a normal set of lifts here but then I opened the shaft, got on top and was confused to not find any motor in the shaft head, nor did the ropes go through the holes in the ceiling. Then while going down I realized that the motor was on the counterweight and that I finally found one of these lifts for which I have been looking for for a long time.
I'm glad you like the video!
A MRL like Kone with cables attaching to the bottom of cabin would also allow for no need of space at the top.
@@Txepetxcc indeed but having the engine at the bottom of the shaft in case of flooding the engine is ruined.
That's so interesting hopefully I will come across something like this
I know of many special lift drive concepts in Germany but I have no Idea if something like this also exists in the UK.
@@TheLiftDragon probably too good for the uk
@@lbuuk8139 I tend to say that there's just no creative thinking going on in the UK lift business. In Germany however you will find lots of creative and new solutions, like the Osma belt drive MRLs just to name another example.
Ich habe die Aufzüge zufäligerweise gefunden!😂😂😂
Haha, wie genial. Ja wenn man an einem der Bahnhöfe in Zürich ist, sind die auch nicht mehr weit. XD
@@TheLiftDragon Ja ich war beim Stadelhofen auf Lifttour und dann habe ich sie gefunden😂
U haven’t shown buffer springs as cable was travelling from counter rails how can the buffer springs were kept on counter side.., any one let me know
The buffer is kept on the right side of the big counterweight and on the right side of the small counterweight, directly underneath the ropes. Where the grey painted metal plate is, so that it doesn't interfere with the travelling cable.
This is a COMPLETLY new thing for me, these have the motor on the counter weight, these are great! 😮 Also, will this be considered an MRL. Also why did they put it on the counter weight, I mean it’s cool, but manufacturers don’t like “cool” things, they want some thing economically efficient, also I imagine the maintenance worker having a hard time fixing the lift. 😅
Also suppling power to the motor is a whole other “problem”
If you know where to look, you will indeed find interesting things in the lift world that you might not have deemed possible. This here was one of them to me. Maintenance on these lifts is done by the company who manufactured them, Diethelm. As I've already mentioned on the other video, they make really interesting innovative stuff. As long as there is no fault on the motor or the drive, maintenance should not be an issue. Also regarding power: There simply is a hanging cable underneath the counterweight, just as with the lift car. You can see it in the video.
Is the vfd is single phase ??
No it's 3ph.
Oh mal eine andere Art von einem Gegengewichtantrieb... Sehr interessanter Einblick, Dankeschön! :)
Freut mich, dass es gefällt!
Very interesting
Indeed. Thank you.
The motor on the top of the counterweight, Interesting🤣
Indeed xD
@@TheLiftDragon Please stop at an intermediate floor so we can see the motor, not moving.
@@jmatx For details on the motor(s) there are still images at 6:23
whose brilliant idea was it to put the motor on the counterweight lmfao 😂
Ask Diethelm. xD
scheint ne besondere Bauform zu sein mit dem Motor auf den Gegengewicht auch noch nicht so gesehen
Diese Konstruktion ist in der Tat speziell und momentan wohl auch noch eine ziemliche Rarität. Aber die Zeit wird zeigen, wie gut sich diese Idee durchsetzt.
@@TheLiftDragon immerhin sehr sparsam im platzverbrauch das maschinchen
@@edgarsinger6388 Das ist wohl wahr. Die ZAtop an sich ist eine Maschine ab Stange sozusagen, die sind schon sehr kompakt.
De motor op het contragewicht , nog niet eerder gezien 👍
I haven't seen it before like this either.
Probably a pain to maintain
Definitely inconvenient if something is actually broken on the hardware side of the motor.
😦😮😯
Yes.