Why are you spinning the top? Spin the glass, and the top should spin forever on it without stopping. I thought you'd do this, what with the gears around the edges of the glass.
All tops are inherently unstable when they start spinning. They self-stabilize thanks to the "gyroscopic effect". However you can't get rid of all the friction that is between the top and the surface it's spinning on. The only way to truly make it spin forever is to remove ALL resistance (air, ground, etc). Aka, spin it in a vacuum on no platform.
@@Dyanosis it could be suspended between 2 magnetic bearings in a vacuum. The earth's rotation on its own would be enough to get it spinning. Take that, flat Earthers 😋
@@Dyanosisand no electromagnetic effects that slow it down. Levitating something in a magnetic field will always cause induced currents. If the levitating part has no electric resistance it will still have these currents and will be a rotating magnet. So you have to make sure that nothing could pick up that magnetic field anywhere. Wait now it really looks impossible. Especially if you think of gravity this can cause all sorts of slowdown. I wouldn't recommend thinking about it for too long another mind will always come up with a thing that could disturb the rotation.
If you can report the dimensions and alloy of the tops you’re using, I’m sure a kind materiel scientist in the comments can run a finite element analysis and tell you how fast the top can spin without exploding. I eagerly await the next version. *Inception theme music playing*
@@BrickMachinesChannel The maximum speed the edge of a cylinder of a given material can rotate is equal to the square root of its specific tensile strength (tensile strength over density). A hard steel has a typical tensile strength of ~1000MPa and density of ~8,000 kg/m³. So the max edge speed is ~350m/s. Assuming a 4cm diameter => 0.126m circumference, then the max rotational speed is 2777 resolutions per second or 166,000 rpm. ... but for heavens sake, don't trust my numbers on the strength or density.
You might find some use in Lego compatible metal stuff like : an Aluminum Liftarm with a bearing, or a steel axle to prevent breaking, melting, bending and achieve higher speeds since the bearing will probably decrease the friction.
@@BrickMachinesChannel I'm already looking forward to see you try to synthesize LK-99 and combine it with magnetic levitation once you've already installed carbon fiber axles! Don't forget to pull vacuum around the setup to avoid aerodynamic losses.
@@BrickMachinesChannel Maybe you could use some kind of grease or lubricant on the gears, and axle wear could be reduced by specialized third-party Lego Technic™ liftarms with axle bearings in them
That's a great idea, and I tried that out but it seemed to actually make it worse lol! Like without silicone lubricant did better than with for some reason haha. But yeah I think you're right that metal axles and bearings would help a ton!
What if you try to make a car entirely out of those technic suspension pieces, of any shape or size that lego makes, and test it outdoors or on a super bumpy track of some kind? I think that could be very interesting.
OMG I know you flicking that Lego piece HAD to hurt at 14:20... That hurt me just watching.. Love the videos though. Did not know I needed Lego experiments in my life. Thank you. Earned a subscription from me good sir. Have a wonderful rest of your day; to you and to any who happen to read this, love you!
Lol I thought it would too, but somehow it didn't hurt at all 😂 Thank you so much! Experiments like these are so fun! Like how can a top go from 13 seconds to 13 minutes? Lots of little improvements lead to big changes 👍
OMG, Daniel! Your latest video on spinning a top forever! The very, very best! I can't believe it's almost twice as long as some of the others and I was mesmerized through the whole thing. You are amazing!
Aw thank you so much! 😁 Yeah when I saw it was 18 minutes I was quite surprised, but it was really a fun video to put together! Thanks so much for watching it and leaving me such a nice comment ❤️
Bro I LOVE this! This we be such good decoration! Also if you ever upgrade it, what about using metal axels to fix the problems you had earlier in the video.
I'm curious if the hard tip wore a slight hole in the glass, as it seemed to be staying incredibly still a lot of the time without any amount of horizontal movement. I doubt it would affect the spin speed but I am curious.
I'm glad you asked that question because I was curious about the same thing during this build! As far as I can tell though, the glass didn't have any hole starting to be bored into it. There were a couple of scratches though, and I'm curious as to when that occurred!
As soon as I saw the thumbnail my mind immediately went to something coming down and re-spinning the top so it would never end, and I was not disappointed :D Very interesting to see what affects different things had on the top's spin duration, also holy cow 19k RPM is fast xD
Build a much larger top, that has a wireless charging coil on the inside of it, that can wirelessly charge to keep itself spinning only using self contained systems.
11 out of 10 for perseverance, as always with your creations😁. What a great video, inspirational if not a little expensive😂. Thanks for sharing and hurry up with the next project whatever it might be.
This shows the true potential of LEGO Technic and motors. I am impressed in how LEGO pieces can hold up to spinning a desk toy. 17:19 I thought my internet broke 🤣🤣
Hey man I was wondering if by any chance u might have some extra parts i would love to built stuff like that, like when we was kids im 17 now but miss this vex3 legos so much
Perhaps make the energy adding function take place every 9-10 minutes instead of 5. That way, energy consumption, and wear and tear gets reduced by half. Both the Black and Silver tops have been shown to pass 10 minutes by a 3 and 1, without too much spin fall off.
I just want to say thank you for including captioning on the video! I usually watch videos with subtitles even though english is my only language and know that often most videos donn't go through the effort to put their own in, relying on youtube's terrible auto captionns, but even though you only have text, you thought of all the non-english speaking people who watch and that makes me quite happy to see, so thank you!!!!
This video was amazing! I remember me and my best friend would watch your videos all day long! Watching these videos gives me that nostalgic feeling! Keep up the great work!
I'm new to this channel, and I have to say that this video is just the type of nerd I am - testing different variables and going for a top result. It made me happy to see someone else with my same mindset actually building and filming and doing the math to predict results and finding inconsistencies and the errrors at fault. I only had NXT bricks and didn't have enough pieces to do much with them, but I absolutely love this. It's amazing how much technology and Lego have come together! We're a long way from NXT bricks now!
Watching around 15:30, it seems the top ends up in slightly different place to where its been spun - implying the centre of the motorized shaft isn't aligned with the centre of the glass. I think that creates all the wobble at start-up.
Great observation! The glass disk is in the center of where the axle SHOULD be, but I guarantee that the axle is not perfectly straight after an application like this, and there are tolerances that likely lead to this behavior. The cool thing is that once the top is spun up to a certain speed it becomes perfectly smooth and stable despite those other conditions
Nice! I _was_ hoping you might try electromagnetic induction though. two or four spinning magnets underneath would keep the top spinning forever with no physical contact necessary! Could be a lot cleaner
@@BrickMachinesChannel Awesome, I cannot wait! Electromagnetism is amazing, I cannot overstate how excited I am for part 2 now :D. Algorithm might boost your video too given the recent hype around LK-99
At around 2.000 rpm, I would strongly recommend using a bit of vaseline or mild oil to decrease friction. Lego pieces can literally wear down to dust over longer periods of time. At nearly 10.000 rpm, I saw some parts being torn apart by the sheer forces being applied on them (= me trying to build a Lego "vacuum cleaner" with 3 XL motors...)
Can we appreciate how much time this man dedicated for our entertainment? Not only spending time designing the machines but also waiting and seeing how the perform. Amazing
I feel like the times would be slightly longer if you started the timer RIGHT as the top was released, or to make an additional mechanism that does that for you?
Yeah I considered a mechanism that would do that, but I only needed the timer for approximate times, so I decided it was okay for the time being. Great suggestion!
Didn't think I could watch a video about spinning tops with Lego for 18 minutes, yet here I am! Let's see what other crazy experiments you can come up with!
Awesome! I love to hear that! I massively underestimated the length of this video. I thought it was going to be like 9 minutes lol. Thanks for watching it all! 🙂
Would lubricant on the glass surface also help? I can imagine most of the energy lost is still lost from surface friction. Maybe a specialty ultra-polished glass would help as well to reduce micro-abrasions that absorb energy.
Check into quad copter motors. Using a ESC and servo tester, I imagine you could get much higher RPMs direct drive from the motor. In addition, measuring the starting RPM of the top when you start the timer would be interesting.
Came here looking for the Inception comment and not found it yet. If it spins forever....is this video a dream? Should have put the Inception theme at the end too 😂
Couldn't you also theoretically add energy by spinning the glass plate that the top is resting on (once the top was already moving)? That's where my mind went when I saw how you were holding the glass in place. It wouldn't be quite as efficient at adding the energy, but because it's so much less intrusive and obvious that you could run it all the time
I don't think it will improve a lot since the top has little friction with the glass, but spinning the glass in the same direction will slightly decrease the friction so the top will need less energy to rotate and it will increase the time it rotates !
if you made the glass dish rotate slightly in the same direction as the top, would that not reduce the friction between the two and thus help the top spin for longer?
You should attempt to make a series, where you make a whole working Minecraft house! Start with making furniture, then some working stuff, then make the floor, walls & ceiling! It would definitely get a bunch of content out there, and would be super fun!!!
Great build! I'd love to see more obscure ways of adding external energy. For example, you could make the glass plate spin at an insane speed. Or build something similar to the "drive/actuator" that just hovers over/around the top to make the air around it spin.
You'd have to remove the magnet, otherwise it'd slow the top when it's not rotating. But why a physical magnet? You can generate a rotating EM field with a bunch of stationary coils and three-phase input.
I have a friend who collects tops for fun, do you have the lego schematics for this build? Would be a neat gift for him once he gets older can can't get the rpm he used to by manually spinning.
Wow, that's so cool! I don't have instructions for it sadly, but I used a filming technique that shows where virtually every piece goes, so if you slow down the video you can each piece. The reason I don't typically make instructions is because it takes a lot of time, and I don't have much extra to put towards that right now.
I was hoping for a spiral vortex of compressed air from beneath the top coming up through the base plate to reduce the weight of the top a bit and provide enough air friction to keep the top spinning without the need to be touched again.
This is awesome! It was really fun watching the trial and error, and then when you made it go forever... wow! And yes, cool lights are very important 😂
This guy's content reminds me of the little bit of work I got to do with nxt's back in middle school where I made a sumo bot. I really miss getting to work with them cus it was a lot of fun but it was all the schools property so I don't get to do that stuff anymore. But seeing what he does here with his motors and controllers is just awesome to see cus it's like seeing some of the ideas I came up with back then brought into reality. Truly awesome stuff dude, and so creative. Love to see it all.
Check out my newest video! It's epic! th-cam.com/video/6TcieXHVLVc/w-d-xo.html
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Thank you!
That's not a ps4 controller
Make a lego supersonic with high speed motor and gear ratio!!!😎
Why are you spinning the top? Spin the glass, and the top should spin forever on it without stopping. I thought you'd do this, what with the gears around the edges of the glass.
This man makes me believes that anything can be accomplished with Lego
Thanks very much 😊 LEGO® bricks are seriously incredible! 👍
Next time will be world peace.
@@BrickMachinesChannel true😃😃😃
Even reviving the dead.
even creating life
Maybe reducing the wobbliness of the top spinner structure could also reduce the energy loss? (and make the top more stable)
Yes, definitely! I noticed that as well, and attempted to mitigate it by supporting the spinning axle much better on the final machine. Great idea!
I was thinking that a flywheel on the spinner might do just that.
All tops are inherently unstable when they start spinning. They self-stabilize thanks to the "gyroscopic effect". However you can't get rid of all the friction that is between the top and the surface it's spinning on. The only way to truly make it spin forever is to remove ALL resistance (air, ground, etc). Aka, spin it in a vacuum on no platform.
@@Dyanosis it could be suspended between 2 magnetic bearings in a vacuum. The earth's rotation on its own would be enough to get it spinning. Take that, flat Earthers 😋
@@Dyanosisand no electromagnetic effects that slow it down. Levitating something in a magnetic field will always cause induced currents. If the levitating part has no electric resistance it will still have these currents and will be a rotating magnet. So you have to make sure that nothing could pick up that magnetic field anywhere. Wait now it really looks impossible. Especially if you think of gravity this can cause all sorts of slowdown. I wouldn't recommend thinking about it for too long another mind will always come up with a thing that could disturb the rotation.
I love how you kept improving the machine and literally pushed Legos to their limit! Great vid as always!
Thank you 🙂
How dare you, it’s LEGO®.
@@RaceEngineerJeff Well, nobody asked for your opinion.
@@i-am-the-peastrue
This guy makes it look like legos have no limits!
If you can report the dimensions and alloy of the tops you’re using, I’m sure a kind materiel scientist in the comments can run a finite element analysis and tell you how fast the top can spin without exploding. I eagerly await the next version. *Inception theme music playing*
You're probably right! Any kind material scientists out there??? 😉 That'd be so crazy so get a top to spin that fast!
@@BrickMachinesChannel The maximum speed the edge of a cylinder of a given material can rotate is equal to the square root of its specific tensile strength (tensile strength over density).
A hard steel has a typical tensile strength of ~1000MPa and density of ~8,000 kg/m³. So the max edge speed is ~350m/s.
Assuming a 4cm diameter => 0.126m circumference, then the max rotational speed is 2777 resolutions per second or 166,000 rpm.
... but for heavens sake, don't trust my numbers on the strength or density.
@@tompw3141 @BrickMachines1 I think we found the scientist!!
might need more than just safety goggles
material*
You might find some use in Lego compatible metal stuff like : an Aluminum Liftarm with a bearing, or a steel axle to prevent breaking, melting, bending and achieve higher speeds since the bearing will probably decrease the friction.
I love that idea! I need to try those out!
@@BrickMachinesChannel Carbon axles are very common nowadays as the axles are easily the weakest point in most machines.
I definitely need to find some carbon fiber axles then!
@@BrickMachinesChannel I'm already looking forward to see you try to synthesize LK-99 and combine it with magnetic levitation once you've already installed carbon fiber axles! Don't forget to pull vacuum around the setup to avoid aerodynamic losses.
oh right someone also did some testing to see what each material was best for, axle wise atleast
this is seriously impressive, both from a technical standpoint and an editorial standpoint
Wow, thank you so much!! Very happy you enjoyed the build and even the editing ☺️
Looking forward to hearing from you in the comments! Leave me one below and I'll get back to you as soon as I can 😄
Can you try to make a cards shuffler ? 💀
@@Padz. That's a very cool idea! I'll add it to my list and it might happen at some point 👍
@@BrickMachinesChannel Thanks ! I think it could be amazing !
@@Padz. Yeah I think it'd be very cool! And probably it would have some tricky mechanisms, so that'd be fun! 👍
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So.. who defeated you at Beyblades that you needed to make this video?
weird tutorial on how to slowly drill through glass...
Yeah but i think now we need to add a sharper drill that can actually cut it to get the job done
HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON SPOTTED!!?!??!!?
You should put this in a vacuum chamber to test the effect of air resistance
Great idea!
It's sad that wasn't part of the initial build.
But make it with Lego 🤣
@@pissoffeachother tbh i think thats impossible, but this man could probably do it
@@light_swich it's easy. get an airtight container and run some tubes through a lego pump. there's some videos out there already
Your build ideas, filming and explanations never cease to impress! Well done
Wow, thank you for such a nice comment! 😁
those gear teeth gonna be *WORN OUT* 😅
Lol yeah they would need to be changed eventually! But I have the motor ramp up pretty slowly so that the initial high stress is decreased by a lot 👍
@@BrickMachinesChannel Maybe you could use some kind of grease or lubricant on the gears, and axle wear could be reduced by specialized third-party Lego Technic™ liftarms with axle bearings in them
That's a great idea, and I tried that out but it seemed to actually make it worse lol! Like without silicone lubricant did better than with for some reason haha. But yeah I think you're right that metal axles and bearings would help a ton!
Who hurt bro in a beyblade contest💀
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What if you try to make a car entirely out of those technic suspension pieces, of any shape or size that lego makes, and test it outdoors or on a super bumpy track of some kind? I think that could be very interesting.
Great idea! Thank you!
@@BrickMachinesChannel👍 😄👍
14:38 god dang that turbo flutter sound man 😮💨😮💨🔥🔥
OMG I know you flicking that Lego piece HAD to hurt at 14:20... That hurt me just watching.. Love the videos though. Did not know I needed Lego experiments in my life. Thank you. Earned a subscription from me good sir. Have a wonderful rest of your day; to you and to any who happen to read this, love you!
Lol I thought it would too, but somehow it didn't hurt at all 😂 Thank you so much! Experiments like these are so fun! Like how can a top go from 13 seconds to 13 minutes? Lots of little improvements lead to big changes 👍
Do so the top spins in 13 days
Lego motor at 20k RPMs?? Sign me up all day. I loved the failed tweezer design 😅
Also, I think the 99.59 minute timer should be on the thumbnail. 🤘🏻
Thanks so much! Lol that design wasn't the best 🤣 Great idea! I'll give that some thought!
OMG, Daniel! Your latest video on spinning a top forever! The very, very best! I can't believe it's almost twice as long as some of the others and I was mesmerized through the whole thing. You are amazing!
Aw thank you so much! 😁 Yeah when I saw it was 18 minutes I was quite surprised, but it was really a fun video to put together! Thanks so much for watching it and leaving me such a nice comment ❤️
An incredible concept, as usual!
Thank you very much!
Just....wow. I VERY MUCH loved the iterative process used and the refusal to stop until it was pushing the very edge of what was possible!
Glad you enjoyed it!
This is amazing! You push Lego to the absolute max! Love your work!
Thanks so much!
Awesome! Could you maybe make the glass "floor" rotate to add energy to the top without touching it from above?
Yes, great suggestion!
Bro I LOVE this! This we be such good decoration! Also if you ever upgrade it, what about using metal axels to fix the problems you had earlier in the video.
Thank you! Great idea! Yeah I need to try some of those out!
@@BrickMachinesChannelalso use metal gears and exchange other affected parts mith metal!
@@Wolang13 That would be awesome! I'm going to try some metal parts out soon I think! That'll help push the limits even more 👍
@@BrickMachinesChannelit’s a cool decoration for sure but isn’t very noisy every 5 minutes? Or is the sound not too bad
@@loen9591 No you're right, it is pretty noisy 😂 I'd have to find a way to quiet it down
"Epic" is not a good enough word to describe this :)
Wow, thank you so much!
I love watching your vids!
Thank you so much!
I'm curious if the hard tip wore a slight hole in the glass, as it seemed to be staying incredibly still a lot of the time without any amount of horizontal movement. I doubt it would affect the spin speed but I am curious.
I'm glad you asked that question because I was curious about the same thing during this build! As far as I can tell though, the glass didn't have any hole starting to be bored into it. There were a couple of scratches though, and I'm curious as to when that occurred!
Very cool! Probably limited by parts melting? maybe a contraption that uses air to keep it going? :D
Air would probably be a bad idea, as unfortunately fluids introduce turbulence, which would slow the top down.
@@zacdye7922 but.. The jet would speed it up... Lol
I’m curious if something similar could be done with Euler’s disc, a disc specifically designed to spin for as long as possible
I'll have to check out Euler's disk. That sounds really cool and could probably be used here too!
As soon as I saw the thumbnail my mind immediately went to something coming down and re-spinning the top so it would never end, and I was not disappointed :D Very interesting to see what affects different things had on the top's spin duration, also holy cow 19k RPM is fast xD
Great thinking! And yeah 19k RPM is awesome!
as soon as i saw the thumbnail my mind immediately went to a gif of an anime girl trapped in a cnc
@@pbjwizard umm...alright then
As soon as i saw the thumbnail my mind immediately went to inception
Build a much larger top, that has a wireless charging coil on the inside of it, that can wirelessly charge to keep itself spinning only using self contained systems.
I love that idea! Then it could spin forever, even without a machine!
@@BrickMachinesChannel You could also have a spinning magnet below the top that spins the top, but if the magnet stopped the top would too.
@@BrickMachinesChannel Without machine is not infinite
11 out of 10 for perseverance, as always with your creations😁. What a great video, inspirational if not a little expensive😂. Thanks for sharing and hurry up with the next project whatever it might be.
Thank you very much! I'm so glad you enjoyed it! 🙂 Not to worry, I've got some more great projects on the way 😁
This shows the true potential of LEGO Technic and motors. I am impressed in how LEGO pieces can hold up to spinning a desk toy.
17:19 I thought my internet broke 🤣🤣
A better made endurance top with this setup could go crazy
Hey man I was wondering if by any chance u might have some extra parts i would love to built stuff like that, like when we was kids im 17 now but miss this vex3 legos so much
You can get tons of these parts on LEGO.com or Bricklink.com!
One day people are going to see a man dressed in a Lego iron man suit zooming across the sky. Good work!😊
That'd be so cool!
Is it possible to have some sort of magnetic coupling instead of friction? I like your projects.
That could work if you had a powerful enough magnet below the top and the top was also a sufficiently strong magnet as well.
Yes, absolutely! I'd have to look into it! Good idea 👍
8:59 Really nice use of that new Archimedes screw part!
Perhaps make the energy adding function take place every 9-10 minutes instead of 5. That way, energy consumption, and wear and tear gets reduced by half. Both the Black and Silver tops have been shown to pass 10 minutes by a 3 and 1, without too much spin fall off.
I just want to say thank you for including captioning on the video! I usually watch videos with subtitles even though english is my only language and know that often most videos donn't go through the effort to put their own in, relying on youtube's terrible auto captionns, but even though you only have text, you thought of all the non-english speaking people who watch and that makes me quite happy to see, so thank you!!!!
I'm so glad you mentioned that! It is a lot of work, but I would love these videos to be able to be seen by more than just English-speaking people. 🙂
This video was amazing! I remember me and my best friend would watch your videos all day long! Watching these videos gives me that nostalgic feeling! Keep up the great work!
I'm new to this channel, and I have to say that this video is just the type of nerd I am - testing different variables and going for a top result. It made me happy to see someone else with my same mindset actually building and filming and doing the math to predict results and finding inconsistencies and the errrors at fault.
I only had NXT bricks and didn't have enough pieces to do much with them, but I absolutely love this. It's amazing how much technology and Lego have come together! We're a long way from NXT bricks now!
This is such a thoughtful comment 🙂 Thank you so much! ☺️
Watching around 15:30, it seems the top ends up in slightly different place to where its been spun - implying the centre of the motorized shaft isn't aligned with the centre of the glass. I think that creates all the wobble at start-up.
Great observation! The glass disk is in the center of where the axle SHOULD be, but I guarantee that the axle is not perfectly straight after an application like this, and there are tolerances that likely lead to this behavior. The cool thing is that once the top is spun up to a certain speed it becomes perfectly smooth and stable despite those other conditions
I can’t for the life of me figure out why I watched this entire video
"thats a problem" had me cracking😂🤣🤣
Lol me too when it happened 🤣
Nice! I _was_ hoping you might try electromagnetic induction though. two or four spinning magnets underneath would keep the top spinning forever with no physical contact necessary! Could be a lot cleaner
I love that idea! I'm considering a part 2 and would love to attempt that!
@@BrickMachinesChannel Awesome, I cannot wait! Electromagnetism is amazing, I cannot overstate how excited I am for part 2 now :D. Algorithm might boost your video too given the recent hype around LK-99
At around 2.000 rpm, I would strongly recommend using a bit of vaseline or mild oil to decrease friction. Lego pieces can literally wear down to dust over longer periods of time. At nearly 10.000 rpm, I saw some parts being torn apart by the sheer forces being applied on them (= me trying to build a Lego "vacuum cleaner" with 3 XL motors...)
Great suggestion!
I bet some day all the top brick channels will get together and build the Lego Hadron Collider.
You're always so creative with your ideas. I'm always excited to see what you come up with next.
Can we appreciate how much time this man dedicated for our entertainment? Not only spending time designing the machines but also waiting and seeing how the perform. Amazing
Such achievements should be entered in the Guinness Book of Records👍😀
That would be epic!
I haven't even watched the full video but this is already cool! Keep it up :)
Thank you! I hope you enjoy the rest of it!
I feel like the times would be slightly longer if you started the timer RIGHT as the top was released, or to make an additional mechanism that does that for you?
Yeah I considered a mechanism that would do that, but I only needed the timer for approximate times, so I decided it was okay for the time being. Great suggestion!
The things and ideas you build a truly insane, i aspire to have that great of a mind
Wow, thank you so much! What a nice comment!
@@BrickMachinesChannel no problem, just supporting one of my fav channels!
You're amazing, thank you!
3:22 Heh! I was about to say "You should use a heavy top" and I think that's the same one I got as a stocking bonus last Christmas.
Didn't think I could watch a video about spinning tops with Lego for 18 minutes, yet here I am! Let's see what other crazy experiments you can come up with!
Awesome! I love to hear that! I massively underestimated the length of this video. I thought it was going to be like 9 minutes lol. Thanks for watching it all! 🙂
this made me legit smile at the end, when you reached infinity.
So glad you enjoyed it :)
Cool 😃 I'd use teflon grease to lower friction and avoid heat on bearing points and gears, it will last longer and maybe rotate a bit faster. ✌️
Would lubricant on the glass surface also help? I can imagine most of the energy lost is still lost from surface friction. Maybe a specialty ultra-polished glass would help as well to reduce micro-abrasions that absorb energy.
Thanks for the great tip! I'd love to try that!
Ah, good thinking as well! So long as the top can stay balanced I think that could probably work
Check into quad copter motors. Using a ESC and servo tester, I imagine you could get much higher RPMs direct drive from the motor. In addition, measuring the starting RPM of the top when you start the timer would be interesting.
Great suggestions. Thank you!
What kind of programming are you using to power the 3x3 light matrix with the large hub.
Came here looking for the Inception comment and not found it yet.
If it spins forever....is this video a dream?
Should have put the Inception theme at the end too 😂
Couldn't you also theoretically add energy by spinning the glass plate that the top is resting on (once the top was already moving)? That's where my mind went when I saw how you were holding the glass in place. It wouldn't be quite as efficient at adding the energy, but because it's so much less intrusive and obvious that you could run it all the time
Yes, absolutely! Great idea! My only concern would be if the top would gain enough energy to stay balanced, but it is definitely worth a test!
I don't think it will improve a lot since the top has little friction with the glass, but spinning the glass in the same direction will slightly decrease the friction so the top will need less energy to rotate and it will increase the time it rotates !
@@BrickMachinesChannel it still would need a starter from above i think.
I miss him talking😢
He talked?
if you made the glass dish rotate slightly in the same direction as the top, would that not reduce the friction between the two and thus help the top spin for longer?
Okay, can we just appreciate how man basically made a v16 with Legos? Like HOW
6:16 did it lose an entire gram due to friction from spinning?
Lol it must be right on the border of those two weights, but good catch! I didn't notice that!
It's so satisfying to see that each iteration brings some improvement
Could you add multiple motors to the same drive drivetrain to deal with the torque issue?
3:01 that sound is so satisfying.
Thank you! I love all those clicks 🙂
Really cool machine! But where did u get that light thingy? I cant fimd them anywhere
Thank you! You can get them on LEGOEducation.com or in the Spike Essential kit
You should attempt to make a series, where you make a whole working Minecraft house! Start with making furniture, then some working stuff, then make the floor, walls & ceiling! It would definitely get a bunch of content out there, and would be super fun!!!
That would definitely be a crazy video for sure!
That would definitely be a crazy cool video for sure!
The effort put into this video and that the fact that you respond to comments has earmed you a sub.
Wow, thank you very much ☺️
I'd like to see this done again but swap out the glass plate with a Teflon base with a slight concave
Great suggestion!
Great build! I'd love to see more obscure ways of adding external energy. For example, you could make the glass plate spin at an insane speed. Or build something similar to the "drive/actuator" that just hovers over/around the top to make the air around it spin.
If the glass spins at the same speed as the top, does the top just fall over?
Great suggestions! Thank you! I'd love to try some of those :)
I believe you are correct, but if the glass plate spins faster than the top then that would likely work
What about using spinning magnet below the concave glass periodically to give boost?
You'd have to remove the magnet, otherwise it'd slow the top when it's not rotating.
But why a physical magnet? You can generate a rotating EM field with a bunch of stationary coils and three-phase input.
That’s a very cool and interesting design, using Lego train wheeled as the parts making the top spin
this guy didnt intentionally kept filming, the endlessness of the machine was so mesmerising that he fell asleep without turning off the camera
😂 You got me
There has to be a guiness book of reccords in this somewere, brilliant video really enjoyed the evolution to the end
Yeah! Maybe "Longest top spin recorded by a LEGO® robot" 😁 Thanks, that's awesome!
Welp, another lego channel to binge watch at 1am. Thanks for showing up in the recommended
I have a friend who collects tops for fun, do you have the lego schematics for this build? Would be a neat gift for him once he gets older can can't get the rpm he used to by manually spinning.
Wow, that's so cool! I don't have instructions for it sadly, but I used a filming technique that shows where virtually every piece goes, so if you slow down the video you can each piece. The reason I don't typically make instructions is because it takes a lot of time, and I don't have much extra to put towards that right now.
I was so expecting you to put everything on a vacuum chamber that somehow you had in your garage or something like that.
The interstellar-esque finale had me tearing up. Beautiful work.
Thank you so much ☺️
could that work with a magnet under the glas ? that keeps the top spinning "invisible"
the record going to 3:34 to 4:45 hurt so much I was screaming at the screen for you to stop the timer a second earlier 🤣
I was hoping for a spiral vortex of compressed air from beneath the top coming up through the base plate to reduce the weight of the top a bit and provide enough air friction to keep the top spinning without the need to be touched again.
you have some of the finest engineering iv seen keep up the great work. it may be Lago but that's not a benefit but a challenge to work around.
Thank you, that means a lot!
What would you get if you put it in a vacuum chamber or spray the glass with a thin layer of oil (castor oil perhaps)?
Great ideas! I anticipate the vacuum chamber would lead to longer spin times. Not sure about the oil...it might help or hurt in this case.
Man, even 3 mins Is impressive!
Thank you! I thought so too!
Omg u uploaded yay! I discovered ur channel yesteday and bingeed like ALL of ur vids!
Wow, thank you so much! Glad you enjoy the channel 🙂
man i love the sound of the spinning top with the glass
This is awesome! It was really fun watching the trial and error, and then when you made it go forever... wow!
And yes, cool lights are very important 😂
Thank you! Totally agree, cool lights are key :)
@@BrickMachinesChannel That rhymed 😂
🤣 I didn't even know! Hahaha
You: We also need cool lights :D
Me: Cool lights are an essential component, yes.
Can you make a CNC mini mill next ? This soda reminds me of the Oilers disc for some reason ?
i think a rubber gasket at the end of the bit that sit on the flatter part of the top would help with grip and give you better rpm transfer on the top
Great idea!
YES! we have cool light... thats the most important thing we got :D
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Was hoping to see you add a vacuum chamber. Easy plexiglass cube draw near vacuum and no more air resistance either. Thoughts?
Love the idea! I might do a part 2 and that's a great addition. Thank you!
My man just turned top spinning into a flywheel apparatus. Now he just needs to extract energy back FROM the top
Everytime I think you reached the longest possible time you just rebuild the entire machine and beat it again 😂
Hi
Thanks Jumi! 🙂
This guy's content reminds me of the little bit of work I got to do with nxt's back in middle school where I made a sumo bot. I really miss getting to work with them cus it was a lot of fun but it was all the schools property so I don't get to do that stuff anymore. But seeing what he does here with his motors and controllers is just awesome to see cus it's like seeing some of the ideas I came up with back then brought into reality. Truly awesome stuff dude, and so creative. Love to see it all.
What would happen if you would spin the bottom plate with the top? A better looking forever?
Great question! I imagine there would be less friction and the top would spin longer 👍 Nice idea!