I chose the 300sx before anyone else had one to demo. A leap of faith, and it paid off. It improved my riding dramatically, and it's the most fun bike I've ever ridin.
@Davido50 motorex 40:1. I used to mix 60:1 like ktm wants but I noticed some wear already on the cylinder at only 40 hours. Plus 40:1 is only 1% more oil per gallon. Runs exactly the same.
Hands down, the best KTM 300SX comparison video. The thoroughness of your explanation helped me make a decision on trading in my KX450 for the 24' 300SX. Thank you for this content.
Thank you!!! This was the video that I needed to see. I have KTM 250SX and absolutely love it!!!! I've been contemplating getting a 350SX for an easier ride. I actually think that I would be faster on the 350 but you hit the nail on the head that the two stroke is just more fun to ride. For now, I think I will hold off with adding a 350SX to the garage. Thanks and great video!
Thanks and yes the 2-stroke is just so much fun. I will have some riding videos posted soon, the 350 is growing on me for pure competition if I’m racing every weekend.
For the 300sx it is very stiff if you are light. I'm 152 lbs. Intermediate speed. My setting are. Fork: compression 10 out, Rebound 15, 149 psi Shock: low speed 13 out, high speed 1-2/3 out Rebound 29 out (all the way, but this is with a 3.9 spring, stock was 4.5) These settings work great on Arizona tracks. The seat is rock hard for about the first ten hours.
I have a brand new 2023 SX-F 350. Bought it in Nov of '22 but was recovering from a knee replacement at the time. So....I only have 3 hrs on the bike. I noticed it started leaking gas through the bolt hole that holds the tank on. I just happen to take the seat off and that entire hole was filled with gas. Dealer even said they've never seen anything like that. I had video and pics, the dealer also took a time lapse video showing the gas starts accumulating after 1 hr. Here's my point. Shockingly KTM is being VERY difficult in replacing my defective tank. The new tanks are on backorder til end of Aug. So I was gonna take the bike home and ride it just filling to half tank, then bring the bike in when the tank comes in. Well..........my dealer calls me and says KTM wants to see the tank, so the dealer has to send it....and now I have no tank. Obviously, that means I have no bike. It really sucks because I was gonna race in two upcoming hare scrambles. The dealer said they don't understand what KTM needs to see as the tank is 100% defective. What really angers me is I paid close to $12K when there were many other cheaper options....all to avoid situations just like this....and now they are basically ruining my summer riding and all for a whopping $120 tank and about 20 minutes of labor. I love the bike but EXTREMELY disappointed in KTM. Hope you have better luck, you have two GREAT bikes! I feel bad for folks who have REAL problems with their KTMS.
Iv owned 4 generations of KTM 250sx 07/11/14/18 and really wanted to buy a new 2023 300SX to try fuel injected but could not justify spending $16k NZD on a new bike. Never owned a 4 stroke - was walking past a Kawasaki dealer wanted something different and walked out with a new KXF450 which was 20% cheaper than the a new KTM, 6 hours in so far no issues compared to a mate who brought a 23 350sxf and its been back at the dealer 3 times for issues. That been said the KXF is not quite the same build quality of the KTM and does not turn or stop as good as my 2018 KTM 250sx but the stock kxf suspension feels much better over bumps and the motor is easy to ride. ill probably get another KTM 2 stroke at some point but wait till they iron out little issues. Cheers for review.
That’s terrible, sorry you have to deal with this. As I’ve gotten older and had more experiences, I’ve realized you can have these types of experiences with any brand. Unfortunately once you have that kind of experience it’s very difficult to ever go back so I understand your frustration. I’ve had similar issues with Harley Davidson, Ford, and even Honda which I’ve used for years. In the end do what makes you feel best. Hope you get your issues resolved soon bud.
@@moto-x First, THANKS! Second, I bought a new 2007 Heritage Softail Classic and after 16 years I literally have had one issue. During my first year, my spokes would come loose and so it felt as though I was riding on ice, they tightened them twice, it happened yet again, and I asked why they can't simply give me a new wheel as I just spent nearly $19K...and they did, problem solved. So, I've had good luck with Harley. Regarding the KTM, I truly expected that this would be a simple process considering it's just a fuel tank. Never did I expect they'd want to see the tank for themselves when they had a time lapsed video from the dealer. I do agree, people have issues with all companies. I just expected a bit more from KTM. I even told the rep that I had to convince my wife that spending the extra $$$ on a KTM was worth it because the bikes are rock solid, constructed with all high-end components...and of course they have EXCEPTIONAL customer service. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Enough bitching! Great video explaining the differences. Very interesting to hear the different characteristics between the 2 stroke versus the 4 stroke. I actually struggled deciding to buy a 4 stroke. I watched all the reviews and shootouts on YT (Motocross Action Magazine, Vital MX, Swap Moto, Racer X, Dirt N Iron, Dirt Bike TV, Kris Keefer, Jay Clark etc) and EVERYONE raved about the SX-F 350. I'm 50 so I grew up riding those CR 250's and 500's in the late 80's and early 90's!!! Talk about having fun on a dirt bike? Ride a CR 500! lol I really love the SX-F 4 stroke but I gotta buy another 2 stroke! You're very articulate and explain well, you should make more comparison vids, like riding certain terrain (trails vs track?)
@@mazza159 Would you happen to know what issues your friend had with the SX-F 350? Also....CONGRATS on the KXF!!! Glad to hear that you're happy with it! That's all that matters because this is supposed to be about having fun, so finding a bike that you gel with is so very important! Good luck with Team Green!
The water pump was faulty after a few rides leaking or not working properly not sure on the other issues sorry. Just know he had it back at the shop a few times.
You did a really great job on this video. I am currently considering a new MX bike. I was weighing the YZ250 vs. 350 SX F. I grew up racing 2-strokes, very comfortable with them. Had an ‘09 CRF250 that I really did not like but assume the 4-strokes have improved over the years. Now I really need to consider the 300 as well. You hit on a number of the feel comments that are very important yet tests seem to gloss over. For example, the engine braking on a 4-stroke is a major difference in feel to someone used to 2-strokes. Thank you!
Thank you, much appreciated. I have since sold the 300, both of them. The TBI still has some hiccups to sort out IMO. Stick to a carb if you go two stroke. 👍
@@user-sp8eb6iz7f coming soon! You’ll be surprised at the lap time comparisons. Most mortals simply can’t use the power on the 450 despite our egos. I am one who converted due to lap times being better, able to ride longer and way less fatigue.
450 is too much, even alot of pros think they are.....while they have come along way its basically an open bike.... We used to just have 250f and 450f and raced both..... Its great to see these 2 options now as the 350 just came out when i last rode and raced These are perfect bikes for the masses.... I would probably take 300 as I grew up riding 2 strokes..... Have heard the new 300 is incredible
Great review of the two. I also have the '23 300 but my 350 is a '21. I have the same opinion as you. The 300 is just plain fun to ride. I think overall I'm faster on the 350 but the smile factor is huge on the 300. Hardest part of owning both is picking which one to ride.
I have a 23 Tx 300 and a 21.5 fc450 rockstar edition, I was skeptical buying a tx because I’m mainly a moto guy but husky dealer support is great near me and no 300s were in stock around me. I’m actually happy I went with the tx because it’s a little more lugalble and I can almost ride an entire moto track in 4th gear and never drop below 3rd. Long story short the FC is forsale and I’ll never be touching a 450 again I think I’m a 300 rider for life now
Cool! I’m tempted to get a yz250 and see if I can make it comparable to these new ktms. There is something about a yz250 that is simple, yet effective!
It seemed like your views on the 350sxf changed a lot since this video? Did that just come from more time on the bike? Trying to decide about moving to another bike. I'm on a yamaha 250f now and weigh 160lbs and considering the 350sxf as opposed to a 450 and detuning it via mapping. Could you comment on what changed and if you think a 350sxf would be good for lighter rider? I'm not trying to insult or be negative in any way just curious for your feedback. I'm looking for something that pulls a bit longer between gears and a bit more bark than my 250f.
@JimG1964 no worries at all. Yeah so I really loved the 350sxf, it’s a phenomenal bike. I’m a bit heavier than you at 200lbs without gear. For me it was wanting a bit more low end torque. I think for you coming off a 250 you will find this bike really good because you’re already use to ringing it out and you will notice more power. At your weight I think the 350 is a great option for you. The 350 is also a little lighter feeling then the 450s especially on lean in angle in corners. Let me know what you decide as well!
Thanks! I prefer map 2. Have a bunch of new vids to upload talking about whether it’s worth buying a vortex and all but the green map 2 is what I prefer! Co grays on the purchase! You will love it!
Hey, looking at buying a 24 300sx, is it worth it ? Have you had engine issues with your 300 ? Is the sx prone to these engine issues ? Should i just buy a 350sxf to avoid having any engine problems ?
It’s all about the sound and the 2 stroke is a true race bike and if you compared bikes equally by the cubic inch of the motor then the 2 stroke would win easily
Yeah I’m slowly starting to realize USEABLE power is better than raw power. I have a kx450 right now and I’m heavily considering going to a new ktm350sxf. I just don’t need the power of a 450 and if I’m being honest I’m not good enough to ride one the way they should be ridden.
Thank you. It’s the ktm low seat, 15mm drop. I’m 5’11 and I found the new 23’s and later to be a tad tall for me compared to the 22s. This seat works good, and I can still get a good grip with the knees.
Hey, I’m a “Non-Racer” just causal trail rider. I want a dirt bike that’s got some juice when needed but also something reliable. Is a 2023+ 2 stroke KTM a reliable bike?
All new gen bikes have some issues, but IMO these TBIs can be a bit more complex than a carb bike. I had two but they both had issues, have had four friends also same issues. They will get them sorted out but for now I went back to a carb. I would recommend a carb bike over these for reliability and ease of working on them.
It’s a -15mm KTM Powerparts seat. I called my local dealer who didn’t have it in stock and they were able to find me two dealers that had them. You should be able to have your dealer find you dealers who have them in stock.
@@rumblebudgie2085 then you would know these two bikes are some of the most popular and often compared to one another. A mellow, rideable 2-stroke and a not so aggressive 350, both appeal to similar audiences.
Does it make more use able power than a cr250 or yz250? Does it have an advantage over these two? Is the ktm chassis as good as a yz250? Thanks. Could barely hear you. More volume.
I’ll see if I can get a better mic. Yes, the window of power is much broader then any other two stroke I’ve ever ridden and I’ve had a lot of bikes over the years. Definitely has an advantage in terms of easier to ride, less fatigue. I love the new ktm chassis and I think it’s definitely a bike to consider if you want to go the 2 stroke route (300sx)
I chose the 300sx before anyone else had one to demo. A leap of faith, and it paid off. It improved my riding dramatically, and it's the most fun bike I've ever ridin.
Wise choice ! What premix oil do ya use? Thanks. 👍🏻 -Ohio
@Davido50 motorex 40:1. I used to mix 60:1 like ktm wants but I noticed some wear already on the cylinder at only 40 hours. Plus 40:1 is only 1% more oil per gallon. Runs exactly the same.
How’s the reliability been
@@Griff-np3nf about 70 hours now. No problems.
Hands down, the best KTM 300SX comparison video. The thoroughness of your explanation helped me make a decision on trading in my KX450 for the 24' 300SX. Thank you for this content.
Thank you!!! This was the video that I needed to see. I have KTM 250SX and absolutely love it!!!! I've been contemplating getting a 350SX for an easier ride. I actually think that I would be faster on the 350 but you hit the nail on the head that the two stroke is just more fun to ride. For now, I think I will hold off with adding a 350SX to the garage. Thanks and great video!
Thanks and yes the 2-stroke is just so much fun. I will have some riding videos posted soon, the 350 is growing on me for pure competition if I’m racing every weekend.
The '24 KTM 350SXF is amazing you'd love it. 💯 -Ohio
One of the best reviews I have seen. Straight to the point, no BS. Thank you!
For the 300sx it is very stiff if you are light. I'm 152 lbs. Intermediate speed. My setting are.
Fork: compression 10 out,
Rebound 15, 149 psi
Shock: low speed 13 out, high speed 1-2/3 out
Rebound 29 out (all the way, but this is with a 3.9 spring, stock was 4.5)
These settings work great on Arizona tracks. The seat is rock hard for about the first ten hours.
Best 300 vs 350 video I've seen, I have the 300 and love it! Keep the videos coming
Excellent bike! Thanks, I’ve got a lot more coming.
I have a brand new 2023 SX-F 350. Bought it in Nov of '22 but was recovering from a knee replacement at the time. So....I only have 3 hrs on the bike. I noticed it started leaking gas through the bolt hole that holds the tank on. I just happen to take the seat off and that entire hole was filled with gas. Dealer even said they've never seen anything like that. I had video and pics, the dealer also took a time lapse video showing the gas starts accumulating after 1 hr.
Here's my point. Shockingly KTM is being VERY difficult in replacing my defective tank. The new tanks are on backorder til end of Aug. So I was gonna take the bike home and ride it just filling to half tank, then bring the bike in when the tank comes in. Well..........my dealer calls me and says KTM wants to see the tank, so the dealer has to send it....and now I have no tank. Obviously, that means I have no bike. It really sucks because I was gonna race in two upcoming hare scrambles. The dealer said they don't understand what KTM needs to see as the tank is 100% defective. What really angers me is I paid close to $12K when there were many other cheaper options....all to avoid situations just like this....and now they are basically ruining my summer riding and all for a whopping $120 tank and about 20 minutes of labor. I love the bike but EXTREMELY disappointed in KTM. Hope you have better luck, you have two GREAT bikes! I feel bad for folks who have REAL problems with their KTMS.
Iv owned 4 generations of KTM 250sx 07/11/14/18 and really wanted to buy a new 2023 300SX to try fuel injected but could not justify spending $16k NZD on a new bike. Never owned a 4 stroke - was walking past a Kawasaki dealer wanted something different and walked out with a new KXF450 which was 20% cheaper than the a new KTM, 6 hours in so far no issues compared to a mate who brought a 23 350sxf and its been back at the dealer 3 times for issues. That been said the KXF is not quite the same build quality of the KTM and does not turn or stop as good as my 2018 KTM 250sx but the stock kxf suspension feels much better over bumps and the motor is easy to ride.
ill probably get another KTM 2 stroke at some point but wait till they iron out little issues. Cheers for review.
That’s terrible, sorry you have to deal with this. As I’ve gotten older and had more experiences, I’ve realized you can have these types of experiences with any brand. Unfortunately once you have that kind of experience it’s very difficult to ever go back so I understand your frustration. I’ve had similar issues with Harley Davidson, Ford, and even Honda which I’ve used for years. In the end do what makes you feel best. Hope you get your issues resolved soon bud.
@@moto-x First, THANKS! Second, I bought a new 2007 Heritage Softail Classic and after 16 years I literally have had one issue. During my first year, my spokes would come loose and so it felt as though I was riding on ice, they tightened them twice, it happened yet again, and I asked why they can't simply give me a new wheel as I just spent nearly $19K...and they did, problem solved. So, I've had good luck with Harley.
Regarding the KTM, I truly expected that this would be a simple process considering it's just a fuel tank. Never did I expect they'd want to see the tank for themselves when they had a time lapsed video from the dealer. I do agree, people have issues with all companies. I just expected a bit more from KTM. I even told the rep that I had to convince my wife that spending the extra $$$ on a KTM was worth it because the bikes are rock solid, constructed with all high-end components...and of course they have EXCEPTIONAL customer service. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Enough bitching! Great video explaining the differences. Very interesting to hear the different characteristics between the 2 stroke versus the 4 stroke. I actually struggled deciding to buy a 4 stroke. I watched all the reviews and shootouts on YT (Motocross Action Magazine, Vital MX, Swap Moto, Racer X, Dirt N Iron, Dirt Bike TV, Kris Keefer, Jay Clark etc) and EVERYONE raved about the SX-F 350. I'm 50 so I grew up riding those CR 250's and 500's in the late 80's and early 90's!!! Talk about having fun on a dirt bike? Ride a CR 500! lol I really love the SX-F 4 stroke but I gotta buy another 2 stroke!
You're very articulate and explain well, you should make more comparison vids, like riding certain terrain (trails vs track?)
@@mazza159 Would you happen to know what issues your friend had with the SX-F 350? Also....CONGRATS on the KXF!!! Glad to hear that you're happy with it! That's all that matters because this is supposed to be about having fun, so finding a bike that you gel with is so very important! Good luck with Team Green!
The water pump was faulty after a few rides leaking or not working properly not sure on the other issues sorry. Just know he had it back at the shop a few times.
You did a really great job on this video. I am currently considering a new MX bike. I was weighing the YZ250 vs. 350 SX F. I grew up racing 2-strokes, very comfortable with them. Had an ‘09 CRF250 that I really did not like but assume the 4-strokes have improved over the years. Now I really need to consider the 300 as well. You hit on a number of the feel comments that are very important yet tests seem to gloss over. For example, the engine braking on a 4-stroke is a major difference in feel to someone used to 2-strokes. Thank you!
Thank you, much appreciated. I have since sold the 300, both of them. The TBI still has some hiccups to sort out IMO. Stick to a carb if you go two stroke. 👍
Amazing detail man, I have ktm 450 but I think I'm ready for the 350. Great video, thanks from New Zealand
Thank you! It took me two years to make the switch but I’m glad I did. Let me know when you get a 350 and best of luck!
I went from a 450 to a 350 and I wouldn’t ever go back. Best bike I’ve ever owned
@@MrHabitat009 I agree 100 percent! It’s really amazing how good these bikes are.
"datractor" on a 350 will never beat "datractor" on a 450. Let's see some lap times..
@@user-sp8eb6iz7f coming soon! You’ll be surprised at the lap time comparisons. Most mortals simply can’t use the power on the 450 despite our egos. I am one who converted due to lap times being better, able to ride longer and way less fatigue.
450 is too much, even alot of pros think they are.....while they have come along way its basically an open bike....
We used to just have 250f and 450f and raced both.....
Its great to see these 2 options now as the 350 just came out when i last rode and raced
These are perfect bikes for the masses....
I would probably take 300 as I grew up riding 2 strokes.....
Have heard the new 300 is incredible
Great review of the two. I also have the '23 300 but my 350 is a '21. I have the same opinion as you. The 300 is just plain fun to ride. I think overall I'm faster on the 350 but the smile factor is huge on the 300. Hardest part of owning both is picking which one to ride.
Couldn’t agree more! Both great but I give the fun nod to the 300 lol.
I have a 23 Tx 300 and a 21.5 fc450 rockstar edition, I was skeptical buying a tx because I’m mainly a moto guy but husky dealer support is great near me and no 300s were in stock around me. I’m actually happy I went with the tx because it’s a little more lugalble and I can almost ride an entire moto track in 4th gear and never drop below 3rd. Long story short the FC is forsale and I’ll never be touching a 450 again I think I’m a 300 rider for life now
Great bike! You can’t go wrong with the 300 or 350! And spit on with the 450!
A lap time comparison between the 2 would be great!!
Working on that for all upcoming videos! 👍
I got a 2023 yz250 that's got some mods done to the motor that you can do a comparisons video
Cool! I’m tempted to get a yz250 and see if I can make it comparable to these new ktms. There is something about a yz250 that is simple, yet effective!
It seemed like your views on the 350sxf changed a lot since this video? Did that just come from more time on the bike? Trying to decide about moving to another bike. I'm on a yamaha 250f now and weigh 160lbs and considering the 350sxf as opposed to a 450 and detuning it via mapping. Could you comment on what changed and if you think a 350sxf would be good for lighter rider? I'm not trying to insult or be negative in any way just curious for your feedback. I'm looking for something that pulls a bit longer between gears and a bit more bark than my 250f.
@JimG1964 no worries at all. Yeah so I really loved the 350sxf, it’s a phenomenal bike. I’m a bit heavier than you at 200lbs without gear. For me it was wanting a bit more low end torque. I think for you coming off a 250 you will find this bike really good because you’re already use to ringing it out and you will notice more power. At your weight I think the 350 is a great option for you. The 350 is also a little lighter feeling then the 450s especially on lean in angle in corners. Let me know what you decide as well!
What did you think of and your feedback on the 21.5 SXF FE?
Great video. I pick up my new 350 on Friday. What map do you like best on you 350? Thanks
Thanks! I prefer map 2. Have a bunch of new vids to upload talking about whether it’s worth buying a vortex and all but the green map 2 is what I prefer! Co grays on the purchase! You will love it!
@@moto-x I hope so. I order a Vortex for mine. I can let you know what I think about it. Thanks for the info
KTM all the way. Cant beat em! -Ohio #MaximaOils #F150Raptor
Fantastic comparison dude nice work
Thanks I appreciate it!
Hey, looking at buying a 24 300sx, is it worth it ? Have you had engine issues with your 300 ? Is the sx prone to these engine issues ? Should i just buy a 350sxf to avoid having any engine problems ?
@@iridemoto9675 I would save yourself the aggravation and either buy a carbed 2-stroke or the 350sxf. TBI needs a few more years for sure.
Beutiful detail, i wish i had a 23 300!
Any engine issues with the 300 ? Has it been reliable?
It’s all about the sound and the 2 stroke is a true race bike and if you compared bikes equally by the cubic inch of the motor then the 2 stroke would win easily
Yeah I’m slowly starting to realize USEABLE power is better than raw power. I have a kx450 right now and I’m heavily considering going to a new ktm350sxf. I just don’t need the power of a 450 and if I’m being honest I’m not good enough to ride one the way they should be ridden.
What seat is it that on the 350 there? I’d like to get one. Nice review 👍🏻
Thank you. It’s the ktm low seat, 15mm drop. I’m 5’11 and I found the new 23’s and later to be a tad tall for me compared to the 22s. This seat works good, and I can still get a good grip with the knees.
@@moto-x ok cheers mate, thanks for the reply.
Hey, I’m a “Non-Racer” just causal trail rider. I want a dirt bike that’s got some juice when needed but also something reliable. Is a 2023+ 2 stroke KTM a reliable bike?
All new gen bikes have some issues, but IMO these TBIs can be a bit more complex than a carb bike. I had two but they both had issues, have had four friends also same issues. They will get them sorted out but for now I went back to a carb. I would recommend a carb bike over these for reliability and ease of working on them.
What is the black seat you have on the 350 and where did you get it? Powerparts has a black factory race seat but its backordered. Thanks
It’s a -15mm KTM Powerparts seat. I called my local dealer who didn’t have it in stock and they were able to find me two dealers that had them. You should be able to have your dealer find you dealers who have them in stock.
The sx300 has comparable power to the cr500 classic?
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@@dabeuszek lol no not even close.
I’ve rode both the 300 is an easy choice
Both are excellent, just depends on what you want. If I’m buying a bike to have the most fun on and still go well, that’s the 300.
Great review
Thank you much appreciated.
Is the the same 300sx that you have been having issues with?
It was, no longer have either. 350 was great bike but I preferred the torque of a 450.
@@moto-x thanks for the quick reply!
I think I will be getting the 24 fc350 in April.
I will keep my 2016 yz250 for life!
I have a KTM 350 a gasgas300ex and a crf450r lol
Cool.
I wish they made a ,450 2 stroke
Bring back the 500cc two strokes
Remember the KTM 495.....my last open bike was 86 CR 500.....
They most certainly could make a 450 2 st with modern tech
Yall should also compare a clock radio to a potato, or maybe a radial tire to a wizard.
@rumblebudgie2085 you don’t know the difference do you? 😂
@@moto-x I race a 300sx now and am well aware of the difference. This is why I think comparing them is foolish.
@@rumblebudgie2085 then you would know these two bikes are some of the most popular and often compared to one another. A mellow, rideable 2-stroke and a not so aggressive 350, both appeal to similar audiences.
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Does it make more use able power than a cr250 or yz250? Does it have an advantage over these two? Is the ktm chassis as good as a yz250? Thanks. Could barely hear you. More volume.
I’ll see if I can get a better mic. Yes, the window of power is much broader then any other two stroke I’ve ever ridden and I’ve had a lot of bikes over the years. Definitely has an advantage in terms of easier to ride, less fatigue. I love the new ktm chassis and I think it’s definitely a bike to consider if you want to go the 2 stroke route (300sx)
@@moto-x Thanks bud. Enjoy.