we cannot keep overconsuming fast fashion and being surprised when thrift stores are full of fast fashion. the reason thrift stores are full of crap is because we buy crap in the first place and donate it. the first hand market is what feeds the second hand market after all.
Or we ended up with high end but odd because companies have cheaped out on quality, even rugged brands once able to last a long time are crap. What is sad is brands like Carhart are not nearly as good, Wrangler has gone downhill now the 5 star for brand is gone, brands like ASICS or Brooks are only okay and models people loved for years now cause injuries in mid level models for some people.
What most people don't know: Many corporate or privately owned thrift stores do is take the rare finds and put them online to sell now: the rare electronics, jewelry, clothes, household items. So you won't even find them in thrift stores anymore. Some local small independent shops might still have them...but you're gonna pay more than the thrifty prices you were used to decades ago.
I sincerely miss the days I use to be able to find actually good videogames in thrift stores. Now all the good games are auctioned off online and all the bad shovelware goes into the physical stores
Nah, the staff takes the really good stuff, hides it from management and either just take it or put a tag on them and buy them come end of day. Source; My friend who has worked in several thrift stores around town.
This is something I think of all the time. One day, all the vintage quality clothes will be gone and be replaced on the racks of thrift store with basic, 60%-40% polyester, screen printed tags shirts and going to the thrift will be completely useless for finding anything with decent quality. I think another thing we don't talk about is the amount of "one off" printed event t-shirts that fill up thrifts and they more than likely will go to the landfill once they sit on the racks for months. The amount of shirts I see from some elementary school field day, local sports teams from a single county in rural south carolina, or the most hideous print on demand shirts is staggering and not helping anyone.
I get printed on demand shirts. But it's a design I drew on a shirt I intend to wear for years to come. Yeah the ones made for single events are wasteful though.
The real issue is that Grandpas clothes were made in a different time. Everything is made to break now. Planned obsolescence has creeped into almost every industry. As people buy up the old but gold, all that will be left is undesirable polyester shit made in chinese sweat shop. The issue is that people are fine with buying dogshit that never should have been made.
yes i think part of this conversation that ppl ignore is how much more expensive clothing used to be!! if you adjust for inflation, ppl in the 50s-70s were paying a lot more for basic clothing like t-shirts, jeans, coats etc but they were quality items and ppl knew they would last a long time- also, most ppl back then had the skills to mend minor wear and tear issues and the seams were sewn in a way that could be repaired. poor ppl made their own clothing a lot of the time which was pretty good quality as well, at least compared to now. if an item was in rough shape the fabric could usually still be repurposed and most ppl knew someone who could do that so it wouldn't go to the garbage. a lot of this stuff ended up in thrift shops in relatively good condition so the next generation could enjoy them too. now that we have walmart and h&m and shein mass producing very cheap clothing, we sacrifice quality and longevity. seams in these clothes are sewn with a serger to save pennies in fabric and are unrepairable - the material is also terrible quality. so we save in the short term but lose in the long term. the h&m jeans might be only $20 but won't last longer than a year and you can forget about mending them when the shitty seams inevitably rip
It's not "planned" obsolescence. That would imply some kind of strategy or a predetermined breaking point. It just has the base material and quality control of a yoghurt cup and is made by workers who earn three fifty a month. If their customers wear it 3x on average, what's the point in improving the product from the pov of the manufacturer?
Planned obsolescence indeed!! If the goal are cheap "goods" made w/borderline s la v e wages, then this is what you end up with. If that goal is not a quality product then the plan *IS* obsolescence.
I swear people are so weird. Like how can you even WEAR clothes made of 100% polyester, they are so disgusting on the skin? Not to mention the pilling that often happens after the first wash already. I have a few cotton shirts that I bought 2 years ago and that I wear all the time. They are still looking good.
I hit a point several years ago where I realized I don't even wear most of the clothing I have. As a result, I stopped buying clothes, even thrifted ones, and started treating my closet like a collection. I am slowly condensing and replacing my closet with a curated high-end, handmade slow fashion pieces built with quality materials by small designers. Not only does it feel really good to support small businesses, but I really like the idea of having a wardrobe I can wear for another 10 years as opposed to another 2...
that is such a great idea. you made me think about how many of my clothes i actually wear, and it's only a handful of what i own. do you have an idea what i should do with the clothes i don't wear? none of my family members want them or fit them so that's crossed off, and idk where i should donate them to actually help other people. goodwill is crazyyyy these days :((
I have done the same. I almost never buy clothes these days because I have no money. I handwash undergarments and have stuff from 20-30 years ago that are in great shape, because they weren't garbage made by slave labor. My brands weren't even fancy: Mervyn's, J.C. Penney, Capezio jeans, etc. Basic stuff that never goes far out of style. Save the style for jewelry.
@@autumnelizabeth4973 I stopped buying new clothes. I wear the same 5 outfits since I work from home. I recently gathered my Covid boredom purchases and other items. I contacted a local re-entry organization that put on job fairs, etc. They needed business attire for people trying to go back to work.
I feel like market will correct itself eventually. Too much demand right now even with enough supply. But this is driving prices up and there will only be so many customer willing to pay that price. When firms understand that they’ve lost many price sensitive customers they’ll begging to reduce prices Because at the end of the day they’re in the volume game even though making more on less items is great there is to many thrift stores for this to be possible without being an upscale resale store that’s positioned really well within that image
It's often more affordable to buy new, especially from a sale. Just heard how someone saw a Shein dress at a local donations thrift store for 25€. Should be roughly the same in USD. However I've been buying from Sellpy, which is the H&M greenwashing thrift store (online). It takes time, but they lower the prices for unsold items untill they cost 3€. So you can find reasonably priced ones.
So I grew up on the poverty line. Secondhand clothes- from donation drives, community giveaways, estate/yard/garage/rummage sales, hand-me-downs, & thrift stores- were the bulk of my wardrobe as a kid. In spite of my earning a very decent salary, thrifting is still the best option for my income level until my student loans are paid off. But now I'm much more picky about what I thrift- looking for natural fabrics (cotton, wool, linen), hunting for pieces that are actual Art and Unique (embroidered, painted, patched), and primarily something that will hopefully last me for at least 10-15 years. In a way, it's been a blessing that thrifting has shifted from something that 20 years ago got me bullied relentlessly to something that Everyone just does. Also the popularity has given me a lot more options when it comes to selecting nicer pieces. But on the flip side, I've seen so much more CRAP in these stores lately, and (while it hasn't happened in my stores (yet)) it's grown so popular that it's almost impossible for the actual Poor People to actually buy the basic clothes we need anymore due to many chains hiking up the prices. Yeah, we live in a Society, but maybe we all should take a month or three to buy only what we NEED to survive instead of what we Think we need.
Well said! There's definitely pros to the rise in popularity but if that rise comes at the expense of others its definitely worth some critique. Thanks for sharing your experience here!
Same here, we had a bit more money and were above the poverty line but it was obvious that we didn't have a lot of money. I'd say we were lower middle class, my dad was a landscaper who didn't have a stable income throughout the year and my mom worked remotely from home full-time. Growing up most of my clothes were hand-me-downs and secondhand. I remember a family member bringing over bags of old clothes for my mom and I to go through. It didn't help that I grew up in a town where some people lived like me in small homes and apartments scattered throughout, but just down the road there were million dollar homes. The kids I went to school with had name brand clothes and brand new things. Looking back now of course it seems shallow and stupid, but at the time it was my world. That meant everything to me and I felt so bad that I didn't have those things. I remember, finding a name brand item at the thrift that looked new was the best feeling in the world. I knew that I would fit in when I wore it. Eventually my mom saw how much the bullying was affecting me and she ended up using credit cards to take me shopping at the mall. I remember making labels for my dresser drawers out of notebook paper with the brand names "Hollister," "Aeropostale," "American Eagle,". I'm so appreciative that she did those things for me, but I'm also really sad that we were in that situation to begin with. Where we didn't really have the money to afford those things, but my mom felt like she had to find a way to afford them. Part of it was because my grandparents came to the U.S. when she was 3 and so they were poor, she also had to wear hand-me-downs and would tell me stories of how she was bullied for wearing those clothes. She obviously wanted me to have a different experience. Part of it was also that as an impressionable child, society made me believe that I needed those things for my social survival. That my social survival was the most important. Nowadays I thrift, buy some things new from slow fashion brands, but mostly use what I have and thrifted fabrics to recreate my favorite clothing in new fabrics.
I remember being I middleschool and having my peers tell me to be ashamed for shopping at goodwill for all the vintage tshirts I loved, now they all sell secondhand on depop. Love what you love and the sheep will catchup eventually
Something a former coworker of mine introduced me to was having swap parties. Invite everyone from work and ask them to bring everything they’ve been meaning to clear out. You can ‘shop’ off each others stuff and donate everything else. It’s so much fun and I’ve gotten some of my very favourite things from these little get togethers. It’s a nice way to get to know each other a little better outside work and because it’s a group of folks who aren’t your chosen friend group and you probably don’t all have similar styles, you’ll get more surprising and varied pieces.
That's my favorite way to thrift. Most of the thrifted clothes I actually wear are from swap parties. Both small ones from my sports team or big ones organized by the student body!
The town next to me has swap parties every half year. I was interested and went to one: Most people gave pieces that were not good (or even washed) since then I haven't gone again. (I bring washed nice things which were taken at once but won't even find a piece...) Was kinda depressed, people don't care about their cloths. Well at last it wasn't full of shein...
I'll never forget years ago good will had ALL shirts for $1. I remember at the time I saw a shirt at savers for $3 and said what a scam. Now the cheapest shirt at goodwill is $8
One problem with thrifting is also that people buy to re-sell. so that is driving the price up as the thrift stores know that people are going in there looking for specific brands that they can resell for a profit, and more online sellers are going to the store and competing with one another for such merchandise.
This is happening in my area. Some buyers just rush in pull all the decent stuff off the racks and leave the less desirable items behind. If they decide they didn't want the item, they don't return it to the rack they got it from. Once I look around, I don't want to go all over the store to find what is not purchased. Many of these people are rude. I go there to shop for myself or friends not to make money.
Yep. But heaven forbid you say it here or they'll come after you. As someone said below, they swoop in and gobble up anything decent. I don't know what thrift stores can do to curb it, but I hope they figure it out.
I just came here to say that. People buying then using TH-cam to show off how they bought and resold items for higher prices is driving costs up. Now workers checking in clothes set prices the same way. I also heard Goodwill is doing the same and have their online sales too. But I never checked to see if that’s true. I just know process are outrageous. I used to go to buy an extra outfit or pj for when my young grandchildren visit. They sell used holey, stained or items with hems unraveling close to new in store prices. I get better deals shopping sales or clearance in stores. I used to also get used clothes for my husband to work in because they’ll be stained day one at work. It’s next to impossible to find anymore and if anything is close to what he’d wear, the price gives sticker shock.
@@cs8712I've understood the impossible ones are the mixed fabrics. So if you have the classic 40% cotton, 55% polyester, 5% elasthane type of stretch fabric, that's just going to trash, because it can't be recycled. But could be of course, that they can sort it out. I've learned to cut clothes into rags, which we use for cleaning. The problematic clothes, especially socks and panties, which the recycling doesn't accept regardless of material, still make fine disposable rags. I'll use them for cleaning stuff like the balcony or the toilet, because I can just throw them away. Our city also has a trash power plant, so they'll burn my rags into energy.
Recycling clothing requires an excessive use of water, so there is another issue to consider. Wear everything until it wears out, fix it, and when it is not fit to wear, use it for rags, make rugs out of it, etc. When it is thread bare it is less in the landfill.
Thrifting in my community is going to your cousin house and asking if you still wear/use this and trade for something of yours. Money is rarely involved.
@@alysiannnn8274 Yup. I got loads of hand-me-downs from my mom and from her best friend's daughter, and I've been wearing them for years. Nice stuff that doesn't go out of style.
I sort of get the sense that hand-me-downs are not very common, at least right now. I remember that when me and my cousins were younger, the younger of us would always get the clothes of our older cousins as they grew out of them. And my mom and I are always passing things along to each other or our friends (or each others' friends) when weight changes etc happen. But talking to some of my other friends, not everyone's family did this when they were younger/does it now. I don't know if it's maybe because clothes are cheaper/more available than they were? But some of my absolute best clothes are hand-me-downs! It's funny how some of the things my mother gave me when I was 19/20 seemed so boring or outdated, but are now things I reach for all the time and really appreciate now.
This. I gave away a bunch of my mom's hand-me-downs as a kid because I didn't understand that they were better quality than the stuff you'd find in thrift stores. Now her wardrobe is filled with fast fashion and we've lost a bunch of her pieces from the 80's and 90's 😢 but she's breaking into my grandma's old wardrobe now, so we're unearthing nicer pieces from the 70's. And with tailor-made clothes getting more popular in our region, I'm hoping to get nicely made clothes to hand down to my own future kids 😊
I wish I could do that, I feel like there’s a lack of community in my area. I almost feel like I thrift to remind myself of going through handmedowns with my family as a kid.
@@RizzyCatPTSD Well... Kinda. 😅 Prices, "turnover", quality of products being sold, etc. It's all in the video. So just because you can shop at thrift stores even more doesn't mean that you should (this applies to every other purchase as well).
@@teroalitalo3469 The same thing has happened to open air vegetable and meat markets around the western world. The cashed-up folks shopped at grocery stores and the poorer folks haggled at wet markets, and then there is this sudden shift of middle and upper-middle-class folks heading to wet markets and now they are no cheaper than the fucken grocery stores with their price gouging.
You missed the worst problem of them all: All the *good* stuff gets cherry picked and sold on eBay or expensive "vintage" shops. What is left at the thrift stores is the dregs. That is the exclamation point for everything you said in your essay.
No sh1t! People who are poor don't have a choice while Resellers wait for the doors to open every morning, leaving the junk to the others who can't choose.
I noticed that recently. I think Goodwill should be publicly pressured into not having an online sales presence, now that everyone is learning the truth about them.
@@deepwaters7242 Nah its even worse than that, a lot of the time these higher value items are getting cherry picked before they ever even hit shelves, not by resellers camping out the store openings.
@@whoseveret Resellers are the heavy ones in my town, and the employees get first pick. That's cool because they hire low income, elders and people with disabilities. The resellers are a genuine problem in our town - it's touristic, so overpriced boutiques are everywhere selling the stuff they got at thrift stores at 9:05 in the morning, on the rack of a boutique for a huge price by 10am. I know this because I know quite a few of the workers, ex workers, and managers.
Anytime something becomes a "thing" on social media....it's essentially destroyed. Pokémon, Video game collecting, etc etc.....the niches get discovered and everyone hops on a train that isn't for them.
That happened with video game collecting when investors discovered they could make a profit off of the market by buying up everything and manipulating prices. That's why so many retro games cost so much more now than they did before the mid 2010's
I'd rather buy great quality clothes for years from small local brands than pretend to save the planet, buying mainly H&M, Zara, Shein second hand shit.
Thrifting used to be the only way I could buy "new clothes", but now it sucks because I can hardly find anything in my size and the men's section is always like two racks and that's it. Not to mention because prices have increased it's almost like you're just buying the clothes new :(
I felt that way too until I went to a new clothes place a little while back and found out that they too had quadrupled all their prices. You can't win.
Men''s clothes are always short in thrift shops because men usually haven't been so fashion conscious. They buy the items they need and wear them until they are threadbare. It is the very reason that men's clothes are better made and have better fabrics than women's clothing. Anyone from the clothing industry will tell you that men's clothes are designed for many more washes than women's clothing. Next time you go to a shop, have a look. Men's stuff is better sewn, better quality, and made from better fabrics...
@@tianikane3312 Yup, I second this. My dad's old work shirts were so durable it lasted him until he retired. I was able to do some simple alterations on it so that he can wear them again.
what pisses me off is seeing the depop girlies rummaging through the mens section like there isn't already a shortage of mens clothes at any thrift store.
I have also noticed that the thrift stores are mostly full of fast fashion that deteriorates quickly. So while the brand-new polyester/rayon/crappy synthetic clothing looks pretty good brand new, it looks pretty bad at the thrift store. So much for finding “treasures”; it’s harder than it used to be.
Theres an issue as well as "professional" thrifters ransacking all the cheap ones daily to upsell in their own stores or ebay. Always got to be that one guy ruining it for the average thrifter.
For plus size this is how it's always been though, since fast fashion is pretty much the only one that wants to sell us clothes. Hence almost everything plus size in the thrift stores has always been fast fashion.
@@AshaSelfsDemoFilmscapitalism brought you pairs of shoes with contour options instead of buying a single 1 size fits all when one of em busted. Shoes sold as pairs in boxes didn't start until the 1800s. You live in the highest standard of living to have ever existed, owning simple things kings and emperor's would be jealous of like AC. Thank you, free market capitalism, for all your innovations. What you're complaining about predates capitalism. People have been skimping on material and cheating ingredients while jacking prices/meeting quotas in every economic model since the Sumerians. It's a human thing, not a economic model thing. You've really misunderstood free market capitalism's benefits, most of all the fact you have a choice to support or not support a company's practices by buying or boycotting. You can raise capital and start a business and be the change you wish to see in this world. Or sit back and rely on the corporations for your survival in exchange for all your money, while complaining the rich get richer. It's a free market democracy, do what you want. Support what you want with your actions and purchases.
During the depression, one company used large cotton bags for flour. Found out ppl were using them to make dresses. So they started putting floral prints on the bags.
I have a quilt handmade by my great-grandmother sometime in the 1920s or 30s in which the feed sack logos can still be faintly seen on the back. In the hills of Missouri, quilts were made out of necessity.
@@Gothlite-i1l I sew. I make walker bags to donate, and handbags, etc. I tried quilting because all of my sewing friends quilt. I hate it I just hate the concept of what quilting has become. My husband said it best: today's quilting is taking made in China big pieces of fabric, cutting them into little pieces, then putting them back together into big pieces. Wasteful, fast fashion only as a hobby called quilting. During WWI, well to do housewives wanted to contribute to the war effort. They were put to work knitting socks and scarves. They knitted so much stuff that people were quietly put to work to unravel what they made, then the yarn was given back to them to knit more socks and scarves. Busy work. that is what today's quilt hobby is, busy work that is a consumption nightmare. Gone are the days of flour sacks and grandpa's old shirts. Just visit a quilt shop.
there's not many estate sales in my area, but i'm moving and i hope the new place has tons of those because i want to get new decorations for my room and stuff! i also need a desk but idk if i'll be able to find one i like lol wish me luck :D
Even the companies running estate sales have upped their prices and are charging absurds amounts for certain pieces of clothing, this is the case at least in my area
I see so few estate sales anymore. 10-20 years ago there were loads of them, and you could score such great stuff. Now they only sell the leftover junk or giant furniture they can’t sell for $$$ online.
Put the blame on big corporations, not on the little local thrift shops that are dealing with the same price increases that you are. Dystopian is right! Estate sales, yard sales, hand-me-downs from neighbors/relatives, even thrift stores, it's all as it should have been all along.
1990s - 2000s thrifting was killer for 1940s - 1970s era stuff that was plentiful and dirt cheap: electronics, furniture, home decor, lighting, books, records and most importantly clothing. For a very long time the only new clothing I bought was socks, underwear and shoes. After a while the good vintage stuff didn't show up anymore and was replaced by Gap, Old Navy and other poorly made brands, I gave up trying to find anything vintage regardless of price nearly 20 years ago.
A chain thrift store in my country has recently really started to lean into the 70s aesthetic as part of their branding. Thing is, I haven't seen any 70s items in there since I was a child, no way are you going to get a retro groovy outfit from there.
All that stuff has dried up. Now you have 1990's to 2020s stuff like old computers, Ikea furniture, toys, more toys, and very little adult nostalgia items. Yet when an older item from the 80s is dropped off its way overpriced and is often broken.
My family thrifted out of necessity when I was younger and it wasn’t as cool. It’s been amazing to see so many people discovering how awesome thrifting is recently, but at the same time it’s been hard to see the industry change to become so much more commercial.
Is it amazing are is it showing how shit humans are? Perfectly content to put others down until the enshitification of capitalism ravaged everything. I'm tired.
Lmao on the other hand it’s better if people don’t know about it since there would be fewer people getting whatever semi serviceable items the store actually does put out. Never tell anyone about your secret fishing spot
I stopped going to goodwill..got tired of fighting over others garbage.the rich have become trashy and goodwill is greedy..taking a preachers dream to help the poor to a Corp that exploits the system to maximize profits..this place brings out the worse in people.
@@nerinok I heard another story similar to that recently. It is so laughable--how long can they continue pretending that they're "helping" anyone with those prices? Also, price comparisons ftw (even when it seems counterintuitive). The same need for comparing prices applies to coupons--I have seen coupons where, when you did the math, you actually paid more *with* the coupon. (Seriously--I had another person check my math just in case.)
It's the dollar store items getting marked up that really gets under my nerves. As much as I like the idea of thrifting, everything is pretty low quality now and when I shop I get stupid picky so I feel good in what I wear
@@zoyadulzura7490 goodwill is kind of just filled with junk now. id rather buy it new and get more for my money. Its less environmentally friendly, but if im honest, i dont care about that if it significantly impacts my wallet.
I lived in Chile in the 80's, our thrift stores were second hand clothes from the US, so we called it "La ropa Americana" it means "The American clothes" I was so hyped one day when i found a Mr T and a Dukes of Hazzard tee lol.
hey I have lived in Chile now for the past 23 years and it is still ropa americana at the feria! I find tons of cashmere sweaters - and the prices are low because the majority of the population are not wealthy. But I have noticed that there is more and more shein and way more polyester crap than before.
The quality of clothing from big brands has gotten so bad over the years. I have a 12 year old Under Armour T-shirt that still fits and looks good. I bought a UA T-shirt less than a year ago, and it has 3 holes in it and has shrunk. The big brands don't give a hoot about creating more waste, its all about shareholders and greed.
I have stopped buying clothes altogether, because I have skin sensitivities that cause me to break out into rashes and blisters whenever I wear synthetic fibers, like polyester or nylon, etc. And I can't trust any factory made clothes to be completely free of synthetic materials, because the fiber content listed on the label only applies to the main fabric of the garment. Things like decorative trim, zippers, the thread used to sew the seams and even the label itself can still be made of synthetics in a garment that's labeled as 100% natural fiber. So I make all of my clothes myself, even my underwear, and wear and mend them until they can't be mended anymore.
People will pay you to make clothing for them. I would. I can't sew well enough to not be embarrassed by my lousy skills. Bespoke clothing is going to be the future.
The fabric costs alone, are more than buying new clothing; people like OP & I, with specific material or sizing needs, _have_ to make stuff ourselves, but it can be cripplingly expensive.
I have thrifted for years. Recently I have felt that its sometimes not worth it. Stores like Goodwill etc. get items for free and they charge a ridiculous amount for "used" items.
Thrifting used to be about allowing the lower paid and poorest to be able to buy decent reasonable quality second hand clothing and goods, at least in the UK. Here the majority of "thrifting" is via what we call charity shops, run to provide funds either to small local charities or to large national charities. The rise of influencer culture has ruined that experience for many of the poorest as charity shops have continually upped their prices knowing that the market is expanding and they now attract better off customers. Some charity shops here now sell second hand clothes for just as much and often more than you can buy new clothes for, and it's even worse for electrical goods, vinyl records and CDs. Major charities will now rather sell such items on Ebay where they can get more money for them instead of in their shops. In some ways that's good for the charity, they get more money, but it's pricing out the very customers these shops attracted for decades.
We've already been priced out of our communities with rising rents and units being converted to airbnbs... now we're getting priced out of our beloved thrift stores, too.
mary queen of shops ruined it, she told shops to look like boutiques and match their prices to attract "better" customers, yes it's class cleansing, you can see those episodes on youtube right now
I liked thrift stores because slave labor is used in the making of most new clothes. I thrifted partially because of affordability and partially due to not wanting to give my money to unethical, climate-change-fuelling corporations. But now? I might be forced to buy new again.
Too many of them have become 'boutiques' with fancy window displays and curated collections. At one thrift store in my city, there is a line up before opening and people are looking at the window display and on their phones looking up the value. They are 'flippers'. If you don't get there at opening time, the best stuff is long gone. It really isn't that much fun any more and I rarely find anything vintage except crystal and some fine china that no one wants.
Here is a hack that still works: If you are traveling to New York and want a shirt that says "New York " Go to the local goodwill and you can great deals. I recently got a like new condition Grand Canyon shirt for 2$ in Flagstaff, AZ.
I think you missed a big piece of the puzzle here, though. The last ungentrified thrift stores near me (Habitat for Humanity Restore in 2 different cities) had to change how they operated because their landlords dramatically increased their rent. They went from supporting lower income people and keeping things out of landfills to being another place that rejects anything but high-quality items they can sell for 50% of MSRP or higher. During gentrification, it's landlords who put small businesses out of business by aggressively raising rents.
@Tonysopranoyafinook Including the cooperate ones or just the small time guy who risks dealing with squatters. Oh and by the way don't forget the local assesors office. SOMEBODY has to pay for our chitty public school system!
This is part of a bigger problem imo. In a lot of cases landlords are raising rents due to increases in property taxes as values of properties have gone up due to our crazy economy.
Not in the area I live in. I was actually shocked to listen to landlords brag how they are going up on rent to make a profit. I am truly amazed how the local government can do something but they do not.
We now have at least one shop in Iceland that rents outfits from higher end brands for occations. So you no longer need to buy a dress for a one night outing to never wear it again as you can rent it! I think that's super clever!
of course there are people who take advantage of these business models as well… i saw an article about a woman who stole like $800,000 of clothes of nuuly and sold them all on poshmark.
I live in Canada and thrifting majorly changed since Covid. No more seniors discounts in my city. Also NO CHANGE ROOMS. So try buying a pair of pants without trying them on, paying $7.50 (the average price in my city) and if they don't fit, you can't return them! So the types of things I can buy now is very limited. And very few really vintage items any more...and if they appear, they are squirreled away in a showcase and you can't easily access them.
I've noticed recently that Goodwill is removing items off the racks that have tags with that week's 50% off color. When I said something about it to an employee, they pleaded the fifth.
@@karenr7931 Sounds like they're removing them too early; they do the sale of a specific color day to try to get rid of as much of that color as possible before they remove it the next day. Those items have been on the floor for a month so they're being replaced with something that might have a better chance to sell.
Returns to regular stores are immediately thrown in the trash. It costs the stores too much to handle the returns so they just chuck them. Even dedicated Dumpster Divers are having a hard time because most dumpsters are padlocked. At least with most thrift stores, the clothes just go back on a rack and are sold again.
I seen a good will in London Ontario wanted $109.99 for a pair of leather boots last week. I collect Levi’s jeans and have since I was a kid with my dad and the prices are getting outrageous. Sometimes they are just under retail prices
I live in Thailand, thrift store mostly meant Japanese's throwaway items, it amazed me that a lot of them are very recent items, not that old, but they ended up in the throwaway or donation and shipped abroad. Lots of them are like-new items people somehow don't want, or their former owners might not be around anymore. I happened to live near wholesaler who sell these things in weight, not by how much it worth, so it's an incredible deal when you find something nice for really cheap. Thrifting isn't yet gentrified here, but I'll be sad if it turned to something like these stores in the US.
im from Malaysia and this was really popular in the 2010s, we call it "bundle stores". im seeing some gentrification of it, stores brand themselves like Bandoru (bundle in Japanese 🙄) n sell these items with higher prices, but i dont see them becoming popular. whats more preferrable now are online shopping or markets, you get to buy items from the owner themselves and haggle a bit if you buy more. its much more fun (for me, at least) especially when i get a good piece from muji for a cheap price ❤
Can we stop pretending that massive for profit corporations making millions every year in profit (goodwill) are going to GO UNDER if their labor costs increase slightly and they DON'T triple their prices?
Goodwill isn't a great example, because many people don't shop there because of their gross business practices. Plus, why would you spend tons of time searching for things that end up costing almost as much as the new product (or same amount)? Well, and . . . large for-profit companies generally don't have a labor cost issue, they have an issue figuring out how to keep all the money at the top & pay their shareholders more every year. They have PLENTY of money to pay people more; they just don't want to.
@@lajohnson1967 Yeah, I know but it doesn't change that many people have stopped shopping at Goodwill. I fact checked how much they earned before I wrote my initial comment. :D
The only reason there’s such a huge market for thrift stores is because people have so much excessive stuff to get rid of in the first place Thrift stores are a byproduct of fast fashion
And there is nothing to do in life It seems then go to the bar, Go out to eat and a few other things in between like bowling movies but now that everybody is a lazy loser they all just get their food delivered get driven around by someone else and probably buy thrift store stuff from someone else because they are also it's too lazy to get out there and do it...
I'm one of those Boomers you mentioned. Even as a kid, I would go to Goodwill and yard sales with my grandmother to find good bargains. Not just clothing either, good quality wooden furniture too! People need to get back into crafting! Clothing too worn to wear can be made into beautiful decorative and functional items.
@@CT-uv8os Yes! Have done both as well as other projects. The rugs I made are iften called rag rugs or braided rugs. With all this fast fashion clothing that is often made out of 100% synthetic fabrics, they make great little rugs for the backdoor when you have dogs. Cotton and cotton blends make rugs that can hold up to heavy traffic for years and depending on their size are machine washable. The cost to make one is less than $5! Theft stores will put anything with a stain or rip in the 'rag' pile and often give some to you for the asking, which means all you need to buy is a needle and thread.
I have bought everything at thrift stores since 1966. Lived a very rich life with everything I ever needed at 10 cents on the dollar for many years. It's been so fun and easy! 😂
I used to shop in thrift stores in the 80s. I would find incredible pieces from the 40s, 50s and 60s, many of them handmade and homemade. In some stores you could fill a whole bag for $5 or even $2. Nowadays all I find is worn out fast fashion for $15 for a normal item. I can often get the same brand new for less!
In the 80s you could actually find clothes from the 40s. Now those clothes are 80 years old. Even clothes from the 1980s are 45 years old and you'd be lucky to find them in thrift stores. White bread was 54 cents a loaf in 1983. Times change, honey.
Unfortunately adjusting modern clothing is usually not practical or possible. In the old days, there was ample seam allowance (3/4 inch) standard. Then sergers came in and there is basically no extra fabric to let out (HUGE savings for manufacturers as they need less fabric). Also the super stretchy rubbery fabric they use now is actually very difficult to sew and hem. I have modified clothing I owned rather than buying new (new job would allow zippered sweaters/jackets but not hoodies, so I removed the hood and fashioned a small stand up collar.) and I turned a maxi t-shirt dress that I had bought in a thrift store years ago into one just above the knee for summer.
@@puch9830 Yah well, I know how to sew but we are expected to pay 50% of the bills if in a relationship and 100% if single so the 'corporate' work was kinda needed. How much you going to pay me to hem your trousers compared to what the corporate job pays?
My wife exclusively shops at a Goodwill outlet location that puts everything out in unsorted bins that they sell by weight. Pretty much her entire wardrobe is just expensive name brand, but that she bought for $2.50 a pound.
It seems to me that prices went up and quality went down after the COVID shutdown. When my kids were growing up, thrifting was really beneficial, because there was such a short time that kids clothes fit, and mostly they aren't worn out. The kids would have a packed closet. But that went away when the kids became teenagers. The selection that was acceptable went away or was in too bad shape. Now they have nearly empty closets of a few treasured items. But the bookshelves are still loaded.
Excessive lockdowns and the hyperinflation afterwards in 2021. The only people who benefited from those are corrupt politicians, the big corporations as many small businesses became closed, and the corrupt teachers' unions.
Because Kids born in newest Generation Alpha from 2011--2013 when stared depending on where you grew up ( Alpha Short hand for asshole/swipe up generation) they do not know how to read and even do all reading of books in red by a person form on rare chance they need to read even using speech functions on machines/phones or books until middle school when kids get all books on computer in a DVD form using an external DVD drive each classroom has or downloads depending on how company operates and use speech to function on how be read to buying a pair of headphones for said reason. Reason 90% of schools went his route was schools gave so much work kids backpacks were failing mainly due to having to overload backpacks beyond what is normal or seeing kids using smaller overnight/big day packs made for hiking/hunting or kids backs were being ruined.
@@JC_WT I found in 2023 Baseball hat an official MLB licenced Milwaukee Brewers, a cheaper mesh one used for a season in Little league or similar which was in bigger size kids one in a kids L/XL so hat will fit me as I am 5 foot 2 inch and even had higher end logo on said hat like a 3D sewed on patch. Reason hat was sill here is 95% of kids and adults are Minnesota Twins fans or are 10% Chicago Cubs with rest being 5% rest maybe 1/2 of tha being Colorado Rockies. Odd as Brewers are second closest team from where I live, Minnesota is first, then third is Colorado.
I can already feel that becoming more of a thing now- unless my route into sustainability and fashion videos have resulted in my algorithm giving me more people who like to sew
Watch Mary Queen of Shops and how she TOLD charity shops in England to remodel like a designer boutique and attract "better" customers. It's class cleansing at its finest. So you have middle class people working there and pricing out the poor now.
The only reason there's even a market for thrift shops is because we already consume too much sh*t to begin with. This is especially true with fast fashion and electronics. Can't begin to tell you how many bluray players and old denim outfits I've personally seen in thrift shops...
Many clothes found at real thrift stores are most likely there because their previous owner died before them. High quality clothes last multiple decades, especially if well treated. I have a cotton coat I wear atleast 100 days every year for 10 years now and it’s still rocking my outfits
Thrift Stores have existed for a long time, but the merchandise has slowly evolved from donated products that were made to last, to donated products that will last a bit (if you're lucky) when you buy that at the thrift store. I would say it's kind of a mix right now, depending on what you're looking for, but older, better made items are getting snatched up for resale. In another ten years, there probably won't be any and it'll all just be mass produced junk that was built to break.
@@lateformyownbirth My dude, they made no statement about your mother specifically, nor any mothers for that matter. They did not necessarily state that people donating clothing after the death of a loved one was somehow inherently evil or should be stopped.
The same thing has happened to open air vegetable and meat markets around the western world. The cashed-up folks shopped at grocery stores and the poorer folks haggled at wet markets, and then there is this sudden shift of middle and upper-middle-class folks heading to wet markets and now they are no cheaper than the fucken grocery stores with their price gouging.
I'm thrifting for like 15 years, and the change of the industry is so huge- with a weight change I'm pushed back to buy used clothing , since "quality" clothing in my country is mostly fast fashion that is close fitting me. As a teen, had to keep in secret to avoid bullying where are my clothes are from. We do have second hand store lines and also small, independent thrift shops (their actually doing charity work) is even changing into a shein drop-off that I deeply hate. Plastic clothing is like 95% of the stores. Sometimes I do find some old people clothing that I enjoy to death, but it's not the same like it used to be :") However, importing fabrics (as you try to sew clothing) makes everything HARDER to get and create actual clothing - this makes slow down the process, which is okay, but there are lots of workplaces when you're pressured (especially woman, femmes ) to wear a clothing piece like once in a year. I know, because some people were actually making fun of other women for liking the same sets, and calling them "unhygienic", total BS. Anyways, back to waiting for linen arriving in my country!
@@kgb4187 they're making larger profits, but I'm talking consignments. Levi addressed how online sales of used clothes is a big factor in rising prices.
As opposed to not buying the clothes? When not bought, they'll be eventually thrown in the dump. Go to a goodwill bins some time. Thousands of pounds of clothes, shoes, and goods tossed daily....everywhere.
@@ResellTheWorld quality clothes vs what should have never been donated. Cotton is recycled: those are the bins people should be filling with worn out items instead of Good Will or VV or 2nd Ave.
@@jonclark5113 so you think people should toss their clothes in the recycling? Then even more clothes will be produced instead of being reused. That takes way more energy (fuel/production) than just reselling. What you are suggesting is less sustainable. I think capitalism is your problem. People making money.
Honestly, blame middle class people for buying fast fashion. The lack of decent clothing is a bigger problem than the gentrification. Thrifting has been slowly gentrifying for decades. Thrift stores just can't resell shirts that were $3 in the first place, that are falling apart at the seams. If you want to do something about the problem, call people out for buying from SHEIN, H&M, Target, etc. Realistically, people who are buying that garbage aren't poor. Poor people can't afford to buy clothing that they can only wear twice. If you can afford disposable clothing, you can afford better quality clothes. Period. No exceptions.
@@KNURKonesur The by weight places tend to be mostly things that thrift stores didn't think they could sell, or things that were on the salesfloor for too long. 1. Poor people deserve a bit more choice than tee shirts that say, "Smith Family Vacation 2016" on them, and stained sweatshirts with kittens on them. 2. Poor people rely on thrift stores for things like clothing for job interviews, social occasions, etc. They need more than just the bare essentials so they're not naked. They need more than just the basics, just like most people do. 3. Thrifting varies a ton based on demographics. Wealthier communities tend to have significantly better thrifting opportunities. Communities that need them the most tend to have a lot of crap. There's some degree of distribution with some chain thrift stores, but less than you'd think. They also don't redistribute based on community need. They send the best stuff back to stores in wealthier communities where they can make the most from it. (I generally don't thrift for clothes because I don't feel like one should take stuff from the people who really need it, but I will in parts of Connecticut because Goodwill will have things like Burberry coats for $100 or Canali suits for $150. My mother bought a Chanel Boy bag in excellent condition there for like $200. In that store they don't even have things like shirts from The Gap or Target on the racks. Thrifting varies A LOT. Saying "Oh, it's great near me, so it must be like that everywhere" is kind of like saying, "Well, it's raining where I am, so it must be raining everywhere.")
The problem is synthetic cheap fabrics are flooding all of the thrift stores and the consignment shops and places like Plato’s closet are all getting heavily flooded with cheap low quality synthetic fabrics that were previously already made unsustainable
The internet destroyed thrifting. Now thrift stores see expensive online listings for similar items they have so now these thrift stores match the expensive prices they see online at their thrift stores. Large corporations also now own and control many of the larger thrift stores, which keeps prices high. I am seeing a lot of posts on social media of Goodwill increasing the price of items for Target selling them for more than the marked Target prices.
I've worked for GoodWill in Quebec (called Renaissance here) for 4 years during my studies. They have a 6 month programs set in place to training people new to the country, or have disabilities, or even have a criminal record. Not everyone hired there is on this cycle, but please understand that it can be hard to check on every single item that hits the floor. If the pricer was told that the base price of shoes HAS to be a certain amount, they will put the tag on even with the dollar store tag still attached. They shouldn't, but they're not paid enough to care. I disregard items like this. Because I know they have a quota for this minimum wage job. They do lifting, sorting, cleaning and tagging items to sell, and ending their day cleaning up the mess customers leave from their children that ran around breaking open toy bags, leaving garbage on the shelves, and clothing on the floor. It is often thankless. Be kind! I still enjoy thrift shopping. I still donate to them. Tip if you read this far: I recommend monthly visits for a completely different floor of goods. The color tags are the rotation system. Ask the staff what color the current week is to know what's newest to the floor.
All Goodwill shops in my area do not color code, never have sales, no discounts for senior or military/1st responders. With the exception of shoes, all categories are unit price (a few have "bin" clothing priced lower per unit, some do price up a children's RL puffer if the cashier catches it, etc. However, I've shopped at major city locations while traveling with my husband for work and have seen the stark difference in brands and quality of goods priced accordingly, sometimes luckily enough to hit the sales if there on the sale day. It may be that these city populations donate more of the better goods, but more likely the case, if you walk into a thrift and see the category board pricing on the wall, (with no shopping carts, only hand baskets), the more likely you will not find anything of real value. It's been sorted and kept off the floor if and when it gets donated.
what is the point of this comment? it's like we're having a discussing about their being lead in the ice cream machines at Mcdonalds and you start in about how hardworking and underpayed the employees are. what does that have to do with fucking anything? Nothing in the video or the comments was disparging low-level employees.
@@Vault-Born I'm not criticizing anything. This video is great! It's just to give perspective on where the money is going and what conditions they're under when discussing thrift stores and their pricing methods. My personal annoyance about dealing with customers aside. XP
Sure, it's gotten popularized on social media, but there's another reason there's an uptick in thrifting: Everything is getting more and more expensive and so there's no choice BUT to thrift.
A shirt at Winners used to cost 25-30$ new and 5-10 at Value Village. Now they cost 30-35$ new and 20-25$ at Value Village... This is not about inflation
True. I can't afford to pay $30 for a new bra. So I go to a thrift store that have some in great shape for $4.50 .....BUT WAIT! ....It has a yellow tag so it's 50% off!! I try to shop the 50% off tag colours.
We recently got a thrift store near my house and it is interesting seeing how the prices change. I'm all for sustainability and am also a person who can see potential in things. I found a pair of capris that were on sale, but were brand new. They were obviously donated due to a manufacturing flaw. It had five buttons on them when there should have been four and three of them were sewn directly on the top of the leg instead of on the belt. I took them home, moved everything around and now they are perfect!
I'm not poor, but I don't make a lot of money and so I have to be resourceful. I used to wear about 90% thrifted clothes. Not anymore. I like brands like Boden and Madewell, but I can't afford those new. So I learned to sew. There's a salvage store near me that has a large and awesome fabric department. I buy patterns when they go on extreme sale at Joann, or I buy them secondhand from online sellers (Etsy, etc). My sewing machine and most of my sewing tools were bought secondhand (mostly from FB Marketplace). I love my handmade clothes and I feel proud of wearing them!
@@Gothlite-i1l :-D My son (age 23) has said a very similar thing to me several times. Not that it's a thing I want to think about very much, but if society collapsed somehow, I actually have a meaningful skill that I could contribute to a community!
@@beckypetersen2680 You are so correct! In fact, my daughter and I have made it one of our 2025 goals to learn to sew with the sewing machine I got as a gift two years ago. I'm going to clean off a vintage tea table in our living room (which has been turned into a painting studio for my daughter) and put the machine there. I have tried to learn many times over the years, but finally gave up about 15 years ago when my girls and I paid for a 4-H course and the teacher stopped showing up after the second lesson. No reason, and no refund. This time, with the help of great vids, we will be self-taught and maybe get a bit more out of it. I do slow stitching so I can mend and a little more, but we are determined this time.
i miss when thrift stores were only for poor people, i had to pretend i didnt get all my stuff there when i was a kid but now all the clothes are overpriced crap made in the last 10 years, so maybe the stigma was worth being able to get decent quality clothing at a good price
thirft stores were never "only" for poor people. thrifting was popular for people from all across the socioeconomic spectrum, when i was growing up in the 80s and 90s.
@@helpfulcommenterMaybe where you lived, where I grew up, you would be bullied for that shit. I never let anyone find out I mainly wore secondhand stuff for that reason as a kid
@@randomtinypotatocried are you talking about being an actual child or like being a teenager? because yeah where i greew up if you wore nice clothes as a teenager you'd get clowned, you had to thrift your clothes to look cool. 80s/90s.
@@helpfulcommenterI got bullied for wearing hand me downs the year I started junior high. Then I'm high school some of the cool kids started wearing "vintage", but it was niche 70s stuff like bellbottoms that weren't cheap. I got two pairs of jeans at the beginning of the year and just had to patch them as the knees gave out.
My prime thrifting years were 1984 to 1999. You could get amazing, stylish, quality clothes for a decent price. By the time of the early 2000's there was a lot of poor quality items around and the good stuff was getting skimmed off and sold for hundreds. I can't imagine how thrifting would be worth it anymore. I still have some great items, I'm probably sitting in a goldmine!
There are a lot of wealthy people out there that will throw good clothing out because it has a small grease stain on it, or a very tiny fabric pull or whatever. I think just in that sense, that they can donate it versus throwing it in the trash is 100% a good for the planet.
Doesn't even need a reason, my mother has a rich ladyfriend who buys expensive cloths and only wears them once or twice, then they go in a garbage bag and she gifts them away to her friends or donates.
@@JP-ve7or i’ve found so much incredibly expensive clothing that’s just like a two minute job with rubbing alcohol to get a tiny stain out, or the grease stain that you put Dawn on and then put in the laundry. Lots of really wealthy people have literally zero tolerance for any imperfection in their clothing, no matter how small or hard to notice it is. And i’m here for it.
It’s honestly wild how growing up poor, I was used to getting pennies thrown at me by other kids for not wearing branded clothing cause it either came from goodwill or dollar general. Now those same people have grown up and are thrifting cause it’s cool now 🥴 Like don’t get me wrong, I’m glad more people are thrifting now, but it’s just really ironic isn’t it? It really sucks that the clothes I’ve bought from goodwill lately have just absolutely fallen apart in less than 2 years :(
I grew up with a single mom who could only shop at thrift stores. I remember in the early 2000's shopping as a child and going to school in what I found at the thrift. By the time I got to college, I had thrifted everything in my closet! I remember people being shocked at the vintage pieces I had found. I did get my share of "that's gross, I could never wear someone's old clothes!" so when It got popular to thrift I was honestly super excited!
I have never been able to wrap my head around why people would think used clothing is gross. We have washing machines. If your friend offered you a top or pants you liked you would take them home gladly, same difference just a different human. 😊
When my mother was alive she said; "I don't get it! They're getting all these things donated to them for free, but when they sell them they charge about the same price that you can buy it new at another store." She specifically was talking about Salvation Army at the time. And I agree 100% because I have seen it for myself.
When you said that the responsibility for providing affordable clothing to low income people falls on these **companies**, right after talking about how these companies were jacking up prices just because they can, that really disturbed me. That's messed up, and I know this is how things work in many areas, but I never thought about it with clothes before. They're responsible, not the government, and they don't have to follow any rules for their pricing. Thanks for laying it out that way!
The TV show Fallout had an interesting example of circularity. One of the main characters in this post apocalyptic world lives in an underground vault, which has one wedding dress that all brides use, and then sign with their name and wedding date. They even make a joke about brides usually do not spend much time in the dress anyway, so it makes sense to share
That's a really good idea! Also, back in the day, wedding dresses were meant to be taken apart, dyed, and restructured into dresses for the bride to wear regularly.
Wedding dresses used to be handed down from one generation to the next. Before Queen Victoria II wore a white dress for her wedding, brides just wore the best dress they had for their wedding. No biggee.
It's been bastardized by greedy resellers. I repair/make stuff from old clothing and seeing what people charge make me gag. That tattered Hanes sweatshirt from 2008 you're selling is not worth $50, get a grip 🤢
So true! I've ordered a "vintage" dress (it has overlocked seams so not very old...) thinking it was in good condition considering the price of $60, nope... it came with holes! I now have an unwearable dress! They just rip you off because they can get away with it :S
@@someguycalledcerberus9805 I was just thinking about that- I work at a tourist spot (today's my last day actually lol) The amount of people who buy the gift shop trash is _insane._ Instead of getting a nice, unique souvenir, ppl act like they _have_ to buy a low qual magnet that every store has. It gets made in China, wrapped in plastic and shipped to Canada. Then ppl buy it AND TAKE IT BACK TO CHINA. Like what? 😭
I stopped going to our local chain thrift store when their security guard stalked and harassed me through the store because he thought I was trying to steal stuff (I was not). Yes a security guard. For the thrift store.
Can't blame him when in many cities, shoplifting have rising for years because of corrupt mayors relaxing of even refusing to enforce laws against shoplifting and go after businesses who attempt to catch shoplifters with lawsuits.
I started thrifting on 1983, and I still do it, though the vintage stuff is long gone. I can sometimes find decent modern clothes amongst the Shein and Lularoe, but the prices are ridiculous at a lot of stores.
I've always thrifted. Used to because you can get designer clothing cheap. Now it's because the clothing made many years ago now, are better made. You can have your shirt or pants last a lifetime. The stuff made now is just landfill ready apparel at huge cost.
i was diagnosed with a terminal illness, my mother in law donated all my things to value village and union gospel mission without my permission, I went there with proof of the items being mine and that I didnt donate them and to please either let me buy them back or get them back because they were my family heirlooms they said no and told me to leave. They need to fix that because what they did to me was horrible and I dont know if I will ever recover from the pain.
There’s a problem with all this. People (like me) who can’t afford… really most stuff new HAVE to go to those stores because EVERYTHING is too expensive otherwise. I had to get a $5 rug at 5 below and a 99¢ one at goodwill because the floors in my apartment are just… the worst. And I had to wait for 5 months to get those when I had wiggle room for once. And that’s before you get into the clothes that are worn to the last thread. So I need thrift stores. But they suck because they aren’t as affordable as they used to and they’re horrifically picked over. Cheap SHEIN type stuff overloads them and nothing in my size is really… there. I’m not even a weird size, kinda average which is actually the issue. It sucks and makes me have to hunt down deals elsewhere which only makes it worse when I don’t know when I’ll have like… new socks or that one off thing I need for the kitchen or something.
Now? NOW? It's sucked for DECADES. I used to play in a rockabilly/psychobilly band right before the Swing Revival happened in the 90s. Before, we could go to Salvation Army or Goodwill and get authentic 50s clothing for next to nothing. Once the Revival hit, the thrift shop people swooped in like vultures, bought up everything, and put it in their stores to resell at 100x what they got it for. Thrifting has pretty much always been garbage because of nostalgia and trends.
About 30 years ago I lived in a small community and the set up a Free Store. It was so people in need could go and just take what they needed, for free, and people would donate things they didn't want. Then they expanded and everything in the store was $2. Some days they'd have a 'bag day' and everything you could stuff in a plastic grocery bag, in bag cost you $2. So it was still a good deal. Then they expanded again and prices started getting comparable to the thrift stores in town. The internet allowed people to check on resell price values. Too bad....I remember buying a brand new cat flap door still in it's package for $2 and an entire bathroom set of towel bar, robe hook,toilet paper holder, etc for $2. Those days are long gone.....
I remember moving to Alaska when we were first married (1986) and commenting to the people up there that the thrift stores up there had a lot better quality than ones in the lower 48. Then, we discussed that it was probably because at the time, there were very few of the cheaper stores for people to buy from, so the clothes being donated to the second hand shops were better quality. So, IMO, this "bad quality at the thrift stores" is really nothing new. It is somewhat amusing to see people calling it that.
i have found some HEAT at the thrift store, like a shirt with extremely confusing lettering. i found 2 crop tops at a bougie thrift store and i turned 1 into a long sleeve shirt and the other i decorated with bleach. by far the best thing i have found at a thrift store was a $15 WORKING air fryer. its amazing. the big problem seems to be the influx of low quality clothing at the thrift. most of the shirts i donate dont fit me or were free shirts that i almost never wear. i almost gave one of my band shirts to the thrift, but then my grandma wanted it. i wear shirts at night and during the day, so it makes since why i have more shirts than anything
Really long shot. But just in case it's a Cosori air fryer, there was a major recall where they could catch fire. Maybe someone donated it because they didn't want to go through the hassle.
I've scored some REALLY nice stuff at my local Goodwill, including a steamer, brand new couch, and a toaster oven! I think it was only about $50 altogether? Also yes to sharing clothes with family! My cousins and I will swap wardrobes once or twice a year! I actually still have a skirt from the late 90s that five of my cousins wore before I ended up with it. It's still my favorite one tbh.
I’ve always loved thrift shopping, but the last couple of months I’ve noticed the Salvation Armies in IOWA have really been jacking up the prices. Sometimes within on,y a few dollars less than brand new!
I'm a life long thrifter... (at almost 63 I have a low income) so I now shop at the bins and at yard sales when I can... I also donate and take from neighborhood free boxes to save money for bills. The only time I buy new clothing is when I buy from small vendors - at the renaissance faires I work at and the conventions I work at.
Thrift store are not a thing in my country and the very few that exist are mostly niche stuff. So I resorted to buy quality instead of quantity. Works for me so I'm sticking with it.
Used to buy clothes used like 10 years ago but the value proposition has plummeted as prices surged. Hard to justify buying possibly damaged clothing with a worse return policy when the price is comparable (and very often higher) than buying new. It's entirely ruined in my city.
Where I live in Canada, thrift stores have no change rooms so you can't try them on before buying and there are NO refunds or exchanges. (I don't buy much now)
Great video. One note... At 2:02 it says "in the70's" but everything that follows in that segment is from the 1960's. (Source: I was a little kid in the 60's and a teen in the 70's. Vastly different decades.)
Agree to everything. I would like to add a trend that I’m seeing. The nicer things are not being donated, rather, the owners are posting them to Facebook, Craigslist,etc. This is particularly obvious when I look for better-made designer furniture or handbags (like vintage Dooney & Burke or Coach) in my North Texas area. IMO
I like to buy used clothes. I live in east Germany and there is a chain called ReSales. But the last years the quality noticeably decreased. Especially the mens area is getting significant smaller every time I visit one of their stores. I like classic menswear, but long coats are gone and suits are only available in "kids sizes" (I'm quite large).
a brand i really like - freedom rave wear launched a secondhand resell program for used rave clothes and i am so happy about that! i wish more brands would launch programs like that
I used to almost exclusively purchase thrifted items until 2022. From 2020-2022, I saw more and more fast fashion and fast “manufacturing” items take over thrift stores near me. I haven’t found anything worth purchasing secondhand from a local thrift store since 2022, honestly. Instead, I have focused on purchasing secondhand items from private sellers and vintage stores that focus on high-quality items. It’s more expensive, but I know what I’m purchasing will last a long time.
This is spot on. I noticed recently fast fashion pieces appearing in Goodwill. I have to go to curated, niche shops to find heirloom quality pieces and you certainly pay the price (roughly $50-$70). I justify the inflated cost by comparing it to buying a new heirloom quality piece for upwards of $200-$300
It’s mainly due to having a lower percentage of high quality clothes produced and eventually you end up with a lot of plastics and neylon clothing passed down to thrift shops.
You said it! I was a 2XLT and it was a struggle to find anything that fit or that wasn't already worn out. Now that I've crept into 3XLT forget it I have to buy new.
Heck, or these days even being a small or medium, or like 28 waist 32 leg or something is really hard to find at thrift shops - feels like everything is size L or XL and nothing else.
I used to thrift all the time bc we couldn’t afford anything new. Goodwill and Unique were lifesavers for us. But now it’s sad to see that a shirt from Unique can cost twice as much as buying it brand new. Luckily now I can afford clothes from big brands from time to time, but I feel sorry for families in situations were thrifting is no longer an affordable option.
My mother started thrifting when we were kids back in 1969. My father worked and my mom stayed home to take care of us kids. So there was no money for luxury. The current village discounts were the AMVET stores. You could find most items for 50 cents or 1 dollar. I have been thrifting for 50 plus years. Thrifting has not been a fad with me, but a way of life. Thrift on people!
During the 90's, almost all of the clothes I wore to my office job came from thrift stores. If I couldn't find it at the Salvo, I didn't own it. Skirts, button-down shirts, blouses - all 2nd hand. Socks, pantyhose, and underwear were the only things purchased new. Nowadays, I score old T-shirts and sweatpants for gardening and hiking. The $30 shirts that I do own are worn when going someplace nice-ish.
Thrifting is commonplace. But you know people want it cheap. They're not gonna be investing so much on clothes that they're only gonna wear a few times and then change it for better ones that are more better in overall quality.
I recently went to about 8 charity shops (UKs version of thrift stores) on one road, and all the quality clothes were very expensive. like £50+ for a 100% cotton shirt for a guy. But all the shein branded shit was rarely over £5...
I've got a few rules I follow. 1. Don't shop for fun. Only get things I need. 2. When I need something check the thrift stores first. 3. Buy higher quality things. Natural fibers where possible. 4. Wear them as long as possible. 5. Repair. 6. Anything that's still in good condition that I can't wear I donate to a local church. They give clothing away for free to those who need it. 7. Anything that's in poor condition gets disassembled and used as rags or for it's hardware parts. I love saving zippers and buttons because I sew. I'm just trying not to be wasteful.
It's crazy to think that not that long ago in the history of humanity, we lived in small communities and wore hand made clothing for functionality, and this entire issue just didn't exist. Humanity is crazy
we cannot keep overconsuming fast fashion and being surprised when thrift stores are full of fast fashion. the reason thrift stores are full of crap is because we buy crap in the first place and donate it. the first hand market is what feeds the second hand market after all.
Or we ended up with high end but odd because companies have cheaped out on quality, even rugged brands once able to last a long time are crap. What is sad is brands like Carhart are not nearly as good, Wrangler has gone downhill now the 5 star for brand is gone, brands like ASICS or Brooks are only okay and models people loved for years now cause injuries in mid level models for some people.
Another reason is the stores are putting up the good items for auction or selling on websites.
This is so true. Screw you guys. I been donating heat
@@MichelleB022 i gave my lightning mcqueen crocs to a goodwill
My husband bought some premium price wrangler socks the other day that were absolute garbage. @@caseysmith544
What most people don't know: Many corporate or privately owned thrift stores do is take the rare finds and put them online to sell now: the rare electronics, jewelry, clothes, household items. So you won't even find them in thrift stores anymore.
Some local small independent shops might still have them...but you're gonna pay more than the thrifty prices you were used to decades ago.
I have seen charities have accounts on eBay
I sincerely miss the days I use to be able to find actually good videogames in thrift stores. Now all the good games are auctioned off online and all the bad shovelware goes into the physical stores
@@chrisk5985 It's such false economy because it takes away the reason to visit their stores in the first place - the chance of finding a bargain
Nah, the staff takes the really good stuff, hides it from management and either just take it or put a tag on them and buy them come end of day.
Source; My friend who has worked in several thrift stores around town.
People love to pretend only the chains do this but local thrift shops do to.
This is all a symptom of capitalism.
This is something I think of all the time. One day, all the vintage quality clothes will be gone and be replaced on the racks of thrift store with basic, 60%-40% polyester, screen printed tags shirts and going to the thrift will be completely useless for finding anything with decent quality.
I think another thing we don't talk about is the amount of "one off" printed event t-shirts that fill up thrifts and they more than likely will go to the landfill once they sit on the racks for months. The amount of shirts I see from some elementary school field day, local sports teams from a single county in rural south carolina, or the most hideous print on demand shirts is staggering and not helping anyone.
i respect the people who buy those one time shirts as irony lol
That day is already here. Thrifting is basically useless now for clothing and electronics.
Oof add all the horrible company/product logo crap that is churned out constantly...
Polyester is the bane of my existence.
I get printed on demand shirts. But it's a design I drew on a shirt I intend to wear for years to come.
Yeah the ones made for single events are wasteful though.
The real issue is that Grandpas clothes were made in a different time. Everything is made to break now. Planned obsolescence has creeped into almost every industry. As people buy up the old but gold, all that will be left is undesirable polyester shit made in chinese sweat shop. The issue is that people are fine with buying dogshit that never should have been made.
yes i think part of this conversation that ppl ignore is how much more expensive clothing used to be!! if you adjust for inflation, ppl in the 50s-70s were paying a lot more for basic clothing like t-shirts, jeans, coats etc but they were quality items and ppl knew they would last a long time- also, most ppl back then had the skills to mend minor wear and tear issues and the seams were sewn in a way that could be repaired. poor ppl made their own clothing a lot of the time which was pretty good quality as well, at least compared to now. if an item was in rough shape the fabric could usually still be repurposed and most ppl knew someone who could do that so it wouldn't go to the garbage. a lot of this stuff ended up in thrift shops in relatively good condition so the next generation could enjoy them too. now that we have walmart and h&m and shein mass producing very cheap clothing, we sacrifice quality and longevity. seams in these clothes are sewn with a serger to save pennies in fabric and are unrepairable - the material is also terrible quality. so we save in the short term but lose in the long term. the h&m jeans might be only $20 but won't last longer than a year and you can forget about mending them when the shitty seams inevitably rip
It's not "planned" obsolescence. That would imply some kind of strategy or a predetermined breaking point. It just has the base material and quality control of a yoghurt cup and is made by workers who earn three fifty a month.
If their customers wear it 3x on average, what's the point in improving the product from the pov of the manufacturer?
Planned obsolescence indeed!! If the goal are cheap "goods" made w/borderline s la v e wages, then this is what you end up with. If that goal is not a quality product then the plan *IS* obsolescence.
"polyester shit made in chinese sweat shop" - Not cool, man. Those slave laborers can only work with the materials provided to them.
I swear people are so weird. Like how can you even WEAR clothes made of 100% polyester, they are so disgusting on the skin? Not to mention the pilling that often happens after the first wash already.
I have a few cotton shirts that I bought 2 years ago and that I wear all the time. They are still looking good.
I hit a point several years ago where I realized I don't even wear most of the clothing I have. As a result, I stopped buying clothes, even thrifted ones, and started treating my closet like a collection. I am slowly condensing and replacing my closet with a curated high-end, handmade slow fashion pieces built with quality materials by small designers. Not only does it feel really good to support small businesses, but I really like the idea of having a wardrobe I can wear for another 10 years as opposed to another 2...
that is such a great idea. you made me think about how many of my clothes i actually wear, and it's only a handful of what i own. do you have an idea what i should do with the clothes i don't wear? none of my family members want them or fit them so that's crossed off, and idk where i should donate them to actually help other people. goodwill is crazyyyy these days :((
I have done the same. I almost never buy clothes these days because I have no money. I handwash undergarments and have stuff from 20-30 years ago that are in great shape, because they weren't garbage made by slave labor. My brands weren't even fancy: Mervyn's, J.C. Penney, Capezio jeans, etc. Basic stuff that never goes far out of style.
Save the style for jewelry.
@@autumnelizabeth4973try a humane society/church based/charity style thrift. They tend to have better stuff at lower prices.
Is there a list or website that names these "small designers"?
@@autumnelizabeth4973 I stopped buying new clothes. I wear the same 5 outfits since I work from home. I recently gathered my Covid boredom purchases and other items. I contacted a local re-entry organization that put on job fairs, etc. They needed business attire for people trying to go back to work.
Thrift shops have been raising their prices. I'm almost back to buying new
Very true it sucks when things go mainstream
I feel like market will correct itself eventually. Too much demand right now even with enough supply.
But this is driving prices up and there will only be so many customer willing to pay that price.
When firms understand that they’ve lost many price sensitive customers they’ll begging to reduce prices
Because at the end of the day they’re in the volume game even though making more on less items is great there is to many thrift stores for this to be possible without being an upscale resale store that’s positioned really well within that image
The prices is what made me stop going.
I still shop second-hand just to undermine the mainstream retailers.
It's often more affordable to buy new, especially from a sale. Just heard how someone saw a Shein dress at a local donations thrift store for 25€. Should be roughly the same in USD.
However I've been buying from Sellpy, which is the H&M greenwashing thrift store (online). It takes time, but they lower the prices for unsold items untill they cost 3€. So you can find reasonably priced ones.
So I grew up on the poverty line. Secondhand clothes- from donation drives, community giveaways, estate/yard/garage/rummage sales, hand-me-downs, & thrift stores- were the bulk of my wardrobe as a kid. In spite of my earning a very decent salary, thrifting is still the best option for my income level until my student loans are paid off. But now I'm much more picky about what I thrift- looking for natural fabrics (cotton, wool, linen), hunting for pieces that are actual Art and Unique (embroidered, painted, patched), and primarily something that will hopefully last me for at least 10-15 years. In a way, it's been a blessing that thrifting has shifted from something that 20 years ago got me bullied relentlessly to something that Everyone just does. Also the popularity has given me a lot more options when it comes to selecting nicer pieces. But on the flip side, I've seen so much more CRAP in these stores lately, and (while it hasn't happened in my stores (yet)) it's grown so popular that it's almost impossible for the actual Poor People to actually buy the basic clothes we need anymore due to many chains hiking up the prices. Yeah, we live in a Society, but maybe we all should take a month or three to buy only what we NEED to survive instead of what we Think we need.
Thank you - You just saved me 5 minutes of not needing to write that exact thing - 😁
Well said! There's definitely pros to the rise in popularity but if that rise comes at the expense of others its definitely worth some critique. Thanks for sharing your experience here!
Same here, we had a bit more money and were above the poverty line but it was obvious that we didn't have a lot of money. I'd say we were lower middle class, my dad was a landscaper who didn't have a stable income throughout the year and my mom worked remotely from home full-time.
Growing up most of my clothes were hand-me-downs and secondhand. I remember a family member bringing over bags of old clothes for my mom and I to go through. It didn't help that I grew up in a town where some people lived like me in small homes and apartments scattered throughout, but just down the road there were million dollar homes. The kids I went to school with had name brand clothes and brand new things.
Looking back now of course it seems shallow and stupid, but at the time it was my world. That meant everything to me and I felt so bad that I didn't have those things.
I remember, finding a name brand item at the thrift that looked new was the best feeling in the world. I knew that I would fit in when I wore it. Eventually my mom saw how much the bullying was affecting me and she ended up using credit cards to take me shopping at the mall. I remember making labels for my dresser drawers out of notebook paper with the brand names "Hollister," "Aeropostale," "American Eagle,".
I'm so appreciative that she did those things for me, but I'm also really sad that we were in that situation to begin with. Where we didn't really have the money to afford those things, but my mom felt like she had to find a way to afford them. Part of it was because my grandparents came to the U.S. when she was 3 and so they were poor, she also had to wear hand-me-downs and would tell me stories of how she was bullied for wearing those clothes. She obviously wanted me to have a different experience. Part of it was also that as an impressionable child, society made me believe that I needed those things for my social survival. That my social survival was the most important.
Nowadays I thrift, buy some things new from slow fashion brands, but mostly use what I have and thrifted fabrics to recreate my favorite clothing in new fabrics.
Same! Very well said.
I remember being I middleschool and having my peers tell me to be ashamed for shopping at goodwill for all the vintage tshirts I loved, now they all sell secondhand on depop. Love what you love and the sheep will catchup eventually
Something a former coworker of mine introduced me to was having swap parties. Invite everyone from work and ask them to bring everything they’ve been meaning to clear out. You can ‘shop’ off each others stuff and donate everything else. It’s so much fun and I’ve gotten some of my very favourite things from these little get togethers. It’s a nice way to get to know each other a little better outside work and because it’s a group of folks who aren’t your chosen friend group and you probably don’t all have similar styles, you’ll get more surprising and varied pieces.
That's my favorite way to thrift. Most of the thrifted clothes I actually wear are from swap parties. Both small ones from my sports team or big ones organized by the student body!
this is such a great idea! I'll try to implement it in the future
This is great!
The town next to me has swap parties every half year. I was interested and went to one: Most people gave pieces that were not good (or even washed) since then I haven't gone again. (I bring washed nice things which were taken at once but won't even find a piece...) Was kinda depressed, people don't care about their cloths. Well at last it wasn't full of shein...
omg i need to do that!! that is such a cool idea, and much, much better than shopping at goodwill :D
I'll never forget years ago good will had ALL shirts for $1. I remember at the time I saw a shirt at savers for $3 and said what a scam. Now the cheapest shirt at goodwill is $8
Wow I haven’t been in an illwill in years. Are the T shirts $8 now?!!!
I've seen some heavily used, crappy-looking "name brand" T-shirts at Goodwill and Savers for up to 12 to 15 dollars.
One problem with thrifting is also that people buy to re-sell. so that is driving the price up as the thrift stores know that people are going in there looking for specific brands that they can resell for a profit, and more online sellers are going to the store and competing with one another for such merchandise.
resellers are price fixing or price rigging
This is happening in my area. Some buyers just rush in pull all the decent stuff off the racks and leave the less desirable items behind. If they decide they didn't want the item, they don't return it to the rack they got it from. Once I look around, I don't want to go all over the store to find what is not purchased. Many of these people are rude. I go there to shop for myself or friends not to make money.
Yep. But heaven forbid you say it here or they'll come after you. As someone said below, they swoop in and gobble up anything decent. I don't know what thrift stores can do to curb it, but I hope they figure it out.
I'm seeing that too. Everyone with their phone out checking ebay prices. Makes finding anything good anymore really difficult.
I just came here to say that. People buying then using TH-cam to show off how they bought and resold items for higher prices is driving costs up. Now workers checking in clothes set prices the same way. I also heard Goodwill is doing the same and have their online sales too. But I never checked to see if that’s true.
I just know process are outrageous. I used to go to buy an extra outfit or pj for when my young grandchildren visit. They sell used holey, stained or items with hems unraveling close to new in store prices. I get better deals shopping sales or clearance in stores. I used to also get used clothes for my husband to work in because they’ll be stained day one at work. It’s next to impossible to find anymore and if anything is close to what he’d wear, the price gives sticker shock.
Related tip: if your clothes are too worn to donate, drop them off or mail them to a fabric recycling center if the option is available.
I would imagine most fabrics can't even be recycled now due to the plastic fibers
If I had the time, I'd make rag rugs or quilts out of them.
@@cs8712I've understood the impossible ones are the mixed fabrics. So if you have the classic 40% cotton, 55% polyester, 5% elasthane type of stretch fabric, that's just going to trash, because it can't be recycled. But could be of course, that they can sort it out.
I've learned to cut clothes into rags, which we use for cleaning. The problematic clothes, especially socks and panties, which the recycling doesn't accept regardless of material, still make fine disposable rags. I'll use them for cleaning stuff like the balcony or the toilet, because I can just throw them away. Our city also has a trash power plant, so they'll burn my rags into energy.
Recycling clothing requires an excessive use of water, so there is another issue to consider. Wear everything until it wears out, fix it, and when it is not fit to wear, use it for rags, make rugs out of it, etc. When it is thread bare it is less in the landfill.
@@MaryC-ug4pf Sadly, if you use mixed fabrics until they are threadbare, the material just lands as microplastics in the water.
Thrifting in my community is going to your cousin house and asking if you still wear/use this and trade for something of yours. Money is rarely involved.
either that or hand-me-downs. one of my favourite vests is my mum's old one that happened to be uncovered after being tucked away for a while
@@alysiannnn8274 Yup. I got loads of hand-me-downs from my mom and from her best friend's daughter, and I've been wearing them for years. Nice stuff that doesn't go out of style.
I sort of get the sense that hand-me-downs are not very common, at least right now. I remember that when me and my cousins were younger, the younger of us would always get the clothes of our older cousins as they grew out of them. And my mom and I are always passing things along to each other or our friends (or each others' friends) when weight changes etc happen. But talking to some of my other friends, not everyone's family did this when they were younger/does it now.
I don't know if it's maybe because clothes are cheaper/more available than they were? But some of my absolute best clothes are hand-me-downs! It's funny how some of the things my mother gave me when I was 19/20 seemed so boring or outdated, but are now things I reach for all the time and really appreciate now.
This. I gave away a bunch of my mom's hand-me-downs as a kid because I didn't understand that they were better quality than the stuff you'd find in thrift stores. Now her wardrobe is filled with fast fashion and we've lost a bunch of her pieces from the 80's and 90's 😢 but she's breaking into my grandma's old wardrobe now, so we're unearthing nicer pieces from the 70's. And with tailor-made clothes getting more popular in our region, I'm hoping to get nicely made clothes to hand down to my own future kids 😊
I wish I could do that, I feel like there’s a lack of community in my area. I almost feel like I thrift to remind myself of going through handmedowns with my family as a kid.
My favorite response to any “why” question: “Because they can.”
Thrifting sucks now because they can thrift?
@@RizzyCatPTSD
Well... Kinda. 😅
Prices, "turnover", quality of products being sold, etc. It's all in the video. So just because you can shop at thrift stores even more doesn't mean that you should (this applies to every other purchase as well).
@@teroalitalo3469 The same thing has happened to open air vegetable and meat markets around the western world. The cashed-up folks shopped at grocery stores and the poorer folks haggled at wet markets, and then there is this sudden shift of middle and upper-middle-class folks heading to wet markets and now they are no cheaper than the fucken grocery stores with their price gouging.
It's like ticket touting for an actual need. It relies on Greater Fool Theory, the idea you can Flip to a bigger idiot, making it a bubble.
That or money
You missed the worst problem of them all: All the *good* stuff gets cherry picked and sold on eBay or expensive "vintage" shops. What is left at the thrift stores is the dregs. That is the exclamation point for everything you said in your essay.
No sh1t! People who are poor don't have a choice while Resellers wait for the doors to open every morning, leaving the junk to the others who can't choose.
I noticed that recently. I think Goodwill should be publicly pressured into not having an online sales presence, now that everyone is learning the truth about them.
THIS!!
@@deepwaters7242 Nah its even worse than that, a lot of the time these higher value items are getting cherry picked before they ever even hit shelves, not by resellers camping out the store openings.
@@whoseveret Resellers are the heavy ones in my town, and the employees get first pick. That's cool because they hire low income, elders and people with disabilities. The resellers are a genuine problem in our town - it's touristic, so overpriced boutiques are everywhere selling the stuff they got at thrift stores at 9:05 in the morning, on the rack of a boutique for a huge price by 10am. I know this because I know quite a few of the workers, ex workers, and managers.
Anytime something becomes a "thing" on social media....it's essentially destroyed.
Pokémon, Video game collecting, etc etc.....the niches get discovered and everyone hops on a train that isn't for them.
That happened with video game collecting when investors discovered they could make a profit off of the market by buying up everything and manipulating prices. That's why so many retro games cost so much more now than they did before the mid 2010's
I'd rather buy great quality clothes for years from small local brands than pretend to save the planet, buying mainly H&M, Zara, Shein second hand shit.
What local small brands are you talking about?
Not an attack but in my area we have Zero "small local brands" for clothing....
Weirdly, in a small town of about 7k we have a clothier who hand makes clothes. Sometimes you do have local small brands. @@rc07333
Isn't buying quality less frequently the basis of saving the planet?
I do both - quality is key. Fast fashion rarely has quality, just a look.
@@rc07333 I live in Poland and we have quite a lot of decent local producers.
Thrifting used to be the only way I could buy "new clothes", but now it sucks because I can hardly find anything in my size and the men's section is always like two racks and that's it. Not to mention because prices have increased it's almost like you're just buying the clothes new :(
I felt that way too until I went to a new clothes place a little while back and found out that they too had quadrupled all their prices. You can't win.
Men''s clothes are always short in thrift shops because men usually haven't been so fashion conscious. They buy the items they need and wear them until they are threadbare. It is the very reason that men's clothes are better made and have better fabrics than women's clothing. Anyone from the clothing industry will tell you that men's clothes are designed for many more washes than women's clothing. Next time you go to a shop, have a look. Men's stuff is better sewn, better quality, and made from better fabrics...
@@tianikane3312 Yup, I second this. My dad's old work shirts were so durable it lasted him until he retired. I was able to do some simple alterations on it so that he can wear them again.
what pisses me off is seeing the depop girlies rummaging through the mens section like there isn't already a shortage of mens clothes at any thrift store.
@@hufass lmao
I have also noticed that the thrift stores are mostly full of fast fashion that deteriorates quickly. So while the brand-new polyester/rayon/crappy synthetic clothing looks pretty good brand new, it looks pretty bad at the thrift store. So much for finding “treasures”; it’s harder than it used to be.
Theres an issue as well as "professional" thrifters ransacking all the cheap ones daily to upsell in their own stores or ebay. Always got to be that one guy ruining it for the average thrifter.
Even a decade ago high quality second hand wool winter coats were easy to find cheaply. Now, not really :(
For plus size this is how it's always been though, since fast fashion is pretty much the only one that wants to sell us clothes. Hence almost everything plus size in the thrift stores has always been fast fashion.
Yeah capitalism! the enshitification of our lives continues.
@@AshaSelfsDemoFilmscapitalism brought you pairs of shoes with contour options instead of buying a single 1 size fits all when one of em busted. Shoes sold as pairs in boxes didn't start until the 1800s. You live in the highest standard of living to have ever existed, owning simple things kings and emperor's would be jealous of like AC. Thank you, free market capitalism, for all your innovations.
What you're complaining about predates capitalism. People have been skimping on material and cheating ingredients while jacking prices/meeting quotas in every economic model since the Sumerians. It's a human thing, not a economic model thing.
You've really misunderstood free market capitalism's benefits, most of all the fact you have a choice to support or not support a company's practices by buying or boycotting. You can raise capital and start a business and be the change you wish to see in this world.
Or sit back and rely on the corporations for your survival in exchange for all your money, while complaining the rich get richer.
It's a free market democracy, do what you want. Support what you want with your actions and purchases.
During the depression, one company used large cotton bags for flour. Found out ppl were using them to make dresses. So they started putting floral prints on the bags.
I have a quilt handmade by my great-grandmother sometime in the 1920s or 30s in which the feed sack logos can still be faintly seen on the back. In the hills of Missouri, quilts were made out of necessity.
@@Gothlite-i1l I sew. I make walker bags to donate, and handbags, etc. I tried quilting because all of my sewing friends quilt. I hate it I just hate the concept of what quilting has become. My husband said it best: today's quilting is taking made in China big pieces of fabric, cutting them into little pieces, then putting them back together into big pieces. Wasteful, fast fashion only as a hobby called quilting. During WWI, well to do housewives wanted to contribute to the war effort. They were put to work knitting socks and scarves. They knitted so much stuff that people were quietly put to work to unravel what they made, then the yarn was given back to them to knit more socks and scarves. Busy work. that is what today's quilt hobby is, busy work that is a consumption nightmare. Gone are the days of flour sacks and grandpa's old shirts. Just visit a quilt shop.
@@Gothlite-i1lI have a quilt made from my great Grandmother's cotton dresses as well-and she was from Kansas/Missouri!
I’ve resorted to almost entirely shopping from estate sales now because I can’t even afford thrift stores anymore. It’s dystopian
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there's not many estate sales in my area, but i'm moving and i hope the new place has tons of those because i want to get new decorations for my room and stuff! i also need a desk but idk if i'll be able to find one i like lol wish me luck :D
Even the companies running estate sales have upped their prices and are charging absurds amounts for certain pieces of clothing, this is the case at least in my area
I see so few estate sales anymore. 10-20 years ago there were loads of them, and you could score such great stuff. Now they only sell the leftover junk or giant furniture they can’t sell for $$$ online.
Put the blame on big corporations, not on the little local thrift shops that are dealing with the same price increases that you are. Dystopian is right! Estate sales, yard sales, hand-me-downs from neighbors/relatives, even thrift stores, it's all as it should have been all along.
1990s - 2000s thrifting was killer for 1940s - 1970s era stuff that was plentiful and dirt cheap: electronics, furniture, home decor, lighting, books, records and most importantly clothing. For a very long time the only new clothing I bought was socks, underwear and shoes. After a while the good vintage stuff didn't show up anymore and was replaced by Gap, Old Navy and other poorly made brands, I gave up trying to find anything vintage regardless of price nearly 20 years ago.
A chain thrift store in my country has recently really started to lean into the 70s aesthetic as part of their branding. Thing is, I haven't seen any 70s items in there since I was a child, no way are you going to get a retro groovy outfit from there.
All that stuff has dried up. Now you have 1990's to 2020s stuff like old computers, Ikea furniture, toys, more toys, and very little adult nostalgia items. Yet when an older item from the 80s is dropped off its way overpriced and is often broken.
It's like most millennials never grew up until their 30s because there are so many toys and less of everything else.
Even some Old Navy from early to mid 2000's is higher quality then what brand became in 2009--2010.
My family thrifted out of necessity when I was younger and it wasn’t as cool. It’s been amazing to see so many people discovering how awesome thrifting is recently, but at the same time it’s been hard to see the industry change to become so much more commercial.
Is it amazing are is it showing how shit humans are? Perfectly content to put others down until the enshitification of capitalism ravaged everything. I'm tired.
Lmao on the other hand it’s better if people don’t know about it since there would be fewer people getting whatever semi serviceable items the store actually does put out. Never tell anyone about your secret fishing spot
I stopped going to goodwill..got tired of fighting over others garbage.the rich have become trashy and goodwill is greedy..taking a preachers dream to help the poor to a Corp that exploits the system to maximize profits..this place brings out the worse in people.
one time i went to a goodwill and they were charging like $3 for a little terracotta pot, the new one at home depot was like $2.50
@@nerinok I heard another story similar to that recently. It is so laughable--how long can they continue pretending that they're "helping" anyone with those prices?
Also, price comparisons ftw (even when it seems counterintuitive). The same need for comparing prices applies to coupons--I have seen coupons where, when you did the math, you actually paid more *with* the coupon. (Seriously--I had another person check my math just in case.)
It's the dollar store items getting marked up that really gets under my nerves. As much as I like the idea of thrifting, everything is pretty low quality now and when I shop I get stupid picky so I feel good in what I wear
@@zoyadulzura7490 goodwill is kind of just filled with junk now. id rather buy it new and get more for my money. Its less environmentally friendly, but if im honest, i dont care about that if it significantly impacts my wallet.
Let’s not forget, majority of their inventory is free.
I lived in Chile in the 80's, our thrift stores were second hand clothes from the US, so we called it "La ropa Americana" it means "The American clothes"
I was so hyped one day when i found a Mr T and a Dukes of Hazzard tee lol.
hey I have lived in Chile now for the past 23 years and it is still ropa americana at the feria! I find tons of cashmere sweaters - and the prices are low because the majority of the population are not wealthy. But I have noticed that there is more and more shein and way more polyester crap than before.
Here in Costa Rica too 🇨🇷 we even have a chain in San Jose called Paca Loca and I sometimes can find plus-size clothes there!
The quality of clothing from big brands has gotten so bad over the years. I have a 12 year old Under Armour T-shirt that still fits and looks good. I bought a UA T-shirt less than a year ago, and it has 3 holes in it and has shrunk. The big brands don't give a hoot about creating more waste, its all about shareholders and greed.
I have stopped buying clothes altogether, because I have skin sensitivities that cause me to break out into rashes and blisters whenever I wear synthetic fibers, like polyester or nylon, etc. And I can't trust any factory made clothes to be completely free of synthetic materials, because the fiber content listed on the label only applies to the main fabric of the garment. Things like decorative trim, zippers, the thread used to sew the seams and even the label itself can still be made of synthetics in a garment that's labeled as 100% natural fiber. So I make all of my clothes myself, even my underwear, and wear and mend them until they can't be mended anymore.
I'd love to pay you to make me a shirt!
People will pay you to make clothing for them. I would. I can't sew well enough to not be embarrassed by my lousy skills. Bespoke clothing is going to be the future.
The fabric costs alone, are more than buying new clothing; people like OP & I, with specific material or sizing needs, _have_ to make stuff ourselves, but it can be cripplingly expensive.
I have thrifted for years. Recently I have felt that its sometimes not worth it. Stores like Goodwill etc. get items for free and they charge a ridiculous amount for "used" items.
They make a lot of money of donations. Actually they are really smart cause they have no production costs and sell clothes for " the second time"
Thrifting used to be about allowing the lower paid and poorest to be able to buy decent reasonable quality second hand clothing and goods, at least in the UK. Here the majority of "thrifting" is via what we call charity shops, run to provide funds either to small local charities or to large national charities. The rise of influencer culture has ruined that experience for many of the poorest as charity shops have continually upped their prices knowing that the market is expanding and they now attract better off customers. Some charity shops here now sell second hand clothes for just as much and often more than you can buy new clothes for, and it's even worse for electrical goods, vinyl records and CDs. Major charities will now rather sell such items on Ebay where they can get more money for them instead of in their shops. In some ways that's good for the charity, they get more money, but it's pricing out the very customers these shops attracted for decades.
We've already been priced out of our communities with rising rents and units being converted to airbnbs... now we're getting priced out of our beloved thrift stores, too.
mary queen of shops ruined it, she told shops to look like boutiques and match their prices to attract "better" customers, yes it's class cleansing, you can see those episodes on youtube right now
they also steal a lot, like a LOT, people working there
I liked thrift stores because slave labor is used in the making of most new clothes. I thrifted partially because of affordability and partially due to not wanting to give my money to unethical, climate-change-fuelling corporations. But now? I might be forced to buy new again.
Too many of them have become 'boutiques' with fancy window displays and curated collections. At one thrift store in my city, there is a line up before opening and people are looking at the window display and on their phones looking up the value. They are 'flippers'. If you don't get there at opening time, the best stuff is long gone. It really isn't that much fun any more and I rarely find anything vintage except crystal and some fine china that no one wants.
I went to Goodwill the other day, and the prices were more expensive than Walmart!
The last time I went to GW (years ago) I found a shirt that was brand new, tags still attached. The GW tag was priced MORE than the original tag!
Here is a hack that still works:
If you are traveling to New York and want a shirt that says "New York " Go to the local goodwill and you can great deals.
I recently got a like new condition Grand Canyon shirt for 2$ in Flagstaff, AZ.
buddy i can get New York t-shirts at every thrift store here in Texas literally any day of the week
@@helpfulcommenter Ok.
I hate SHEIN! I’d never buy the crap!
Even worse? The Goodwills are full of it now😡
Recently almost bought a Shien jumpsuit cause I didn't check the tags 😅
I think you missed a big piece of the puzzle here, though. The last ungentrified thrift stores near me (Habitat for Humanity Restore in 2 different cities) had to change how they operated because their landlords dramatically increased their rent.
They went from supporting lower income people and keeping things out of landfills to being another place that rejects anything but high-quality items they can sell for 50% of MSRP or higher.
During gentrification, it's landlords who put small businesses out of business by aggressively raising rents.
@Tonysopranoyafinook Including the cooperate ones or just the small time guy who risks dealing with squatters. Oh and by the way don't forget the local assesors office. SOMEBODY has to pay for our chitty public school system!
This is part of a bigger problem imo. In a lot of cases landlords are raising rents due to increases in property taxes as values of properties have gone up due to our crazy economy.
@Tonysopranoyafinook ban unearned income
Truth!!
Not in the area I live in. I was actually shocked to listen to landlords brag how they are going up on rent to make a profit. I am truly amazed how the local government can do something but they do not.
We now have at least one shop in Iceland that rents outfits from higher end brands for occations. So you no longer need to buy a dress for a one night outing to never wear it again as you can rent it!
I think that's super clever!
of course there are people who take advantage of these business models as well… i saw an article about a woman who stole like $800,000 of clothes of nuuly and sold them all on poshmark.
That’s a fantastic idea!
Bridal shops do this in the US.
That's called agenda 2030.
You will own nothing and be happy
I live in Canada and thrifting majorly changed since Covid. No more seniors discounts in my city. Also NO CHANGE ROOMS. So try buying a pair of pants without trying them on, paying $7.50 (the average price in my city) and if they don't fit, you can't return them! So the types of things I can buy now is very limited. And very few really vintage items any more...and if they appear, they are squirreled away in a showcase and you can't easily access them.
I've noticed recently that Goodwill is removing items off the racks that have tags with that week's 50% off color.
When I said something about it to an employee, they pleaded the fifth.
@@karenr7931That makes sense, that's why I can't find something decent in the week's color.
@@karenr7931 Sounds like they're removing them too early; they do the sale of a specific color day to try to get rid of as much of that color as possible before they remove it the next day. Those items have been on the floor for a month so they're being replaced with something that might have a better chance to sell.
Returns to regular stores are immediately thrown in the trash. It costs the stores too much to handle the returns so they just chuck them. Even dedicated Dumpster Divers are having a hard time because most dumpsters are padlocked. At least with most thrift stores, the clothes just go back on a rack and are sold again.
I seen a good will in London Ontario wanted $109.99 for a pair of leather boots last week. I collect Levi’s jeans and have since I was a kid with my dad and the prices are getting outrageous. Sometimes they are just under retail prices
I live in Thailand, thrift store mostly meant Japanese's throwaway items, it amazed me that a lot of them are very recent items, not that old, but they ended up in the throwaway or donation and shipped abroad.
Lots of them are like-new items people somehow don't want, or their former owners might not be around anymore. I happened to live near wholesaler who sell these things in weight, not by how much it worth, so it's an incredible deal when you find something nice for really cheap.
Thrifting isn't yet gentrified here, but I'll be sad if it turned to something like these stores in the US.
im from Malaysia and this was really popular in the 2010s, we call it "bundle stores". im seeing some gentrification of it, stores brand themselves like Bandoru (bundle in Japanese 🙄) n sell these items with higher prices, but i dont see them becoming popular.
whats more preferrable now are online shopping or markets, you get to buy items from the owner themselves and haggle a bit if you buy more. its much more fun (for me, at least) especially when i get a good piece from muji for a cheap price ❤
I picked up a uniqlo item for 200 baht in bangkok. Originally worth 800 baht
Can we stop pretending that massive for profit corporations making millions every year in profit (goodwill) are going to GO UNDER if their labor costs increase slightly and they DON'T triple their prices?
this ^^^
Goodwill isn't a great example, because many people don't shop there because of their gross business practices. Plus, why would you spend tons of time searching for things that end up costing almost as much as the new product (or same amount)? Well, and . . . large for-profit companies generally don't have a labor cost issue, they have an issue figuring out how to keep all the money at the top & pay their shareholders more every year. They have PLENTY of money to pay people more; they just don't want to.
@@JRoseBooks😂😂😂 Yes, sweetie, millions shop at Goodwill.
@@lajohnson1967 Yeah, I know but it doesn't change that many people have stopped shopping at Goodwill. I fact checked how much they earned before I wrote my initial comment. :D
You mean like the 99 cents only stores and family dollar? Like them?
The only reason there’s such a huge market for thrift stores is because people have so much excessive stuff to get rid of in the first place
Thrift stores are a byproduct of fast fashion
nah it always existed, especially children and teen clothes because they grow out of them.
people who buy hauls from shein and dont know what to do with it always just dump it at a goodwill
How many thrift stores have you gone in and done research to see the amount of fast fashion brands on the racks?
I mean, people have been donating and reselling secondhand goods since at least the late 1500s, so it's not just fast fashion.
And there is nothing to do in life It seems then go to the bar, Go out to eat and a few other things in between like bowling movies but now that everybody is a lazy loser they all just get their food delivered get driven around by someone else and probably buy thrift store stuff from someone else because they are also it's too lazy to get out there and do it...
I'm one of those Boomers you mentioned. Even as a kid, I would go to Goodwill and yard sales with my grandmother to find good bargains. Not just clothing either, good quality wooden furniture too! People need to get back into crafting! Clothing too worn to wear can be made into beautiful decorative and functional items.
And books. We bought bags of books at Goodwill and thrift stores. 📚
the problem is the materials are expensive. and if you don't know what you're doing then you ruin some good mats
@@roxyroxelleDIY on media outlets can help. Patchwork quilts and rolled rag rugs aren't that hard to make. Maybe make a business out of it.
@@CT-uv8os Yes! Have done both as well as other projects. The rugs I made are iften called rag rugs or braided rugs. With all this fast fashion clothing that is often made out of 100% synthetic fabrics, they make great little rugs for the backdoor when you have dogs. Cotton and cotton blends make rugs that can hold up to heavy traffic for years and depending on their size are machine washable. The cost to make one is less than $5! Theft stores will put anything with a stain or rip in the 'rag' pile and often give some to you for the asking, which means all you need to buy is a needle and thread.
Been thinking of taking up sewing my own clothes since I'm already patching up my clothes constantly at this point
I have bought everything at thrift stores since 1966. Lived a very rich life with everything I ever needed at 10 cents on the dollar for many years. It's been so fun and easy! 😂
Started in 1971 and I am now 64. 👍
I used to shop in thrift stores in the 80s. I would find incredible pieces from the 40s, 50s and 60s, many of them handmade and homemade. In some stores you could fill a whole bag for $5 or even $2. Nowadays all I find is worn out fast fashion for $15 for a normal item. I can often get the same brand new for less!
In the 80s you could actually find clothes from the 40s. Now those clothes are 80 years old. Even clothes from the 1980s are 45 years old and you'd be lucky to find them in thrift stores. White bread was 54 cents a loaf in 1983. Times change, honey.
probably the best thing we can do is learn how to sew & adjust clothes we already have 👏🏼 rather giving more stuff to thrift shops
Even repairing clothes etc, I usually hand stitch my adult daughter's things so She doesn't throw it away 😅.
Unfortunately adjusting modern clothing is usually not practical or possible. In the old days, there was ample seam allowance (3/4 inch) standard. Then sergers came in and there is basically no extra fabric to let out (HUGE savings for manufacturers as they need less fabric). Also the super stretchy rubbery fabric they use now is actually very difficult to sew and hem. I have modified clothing I owned rather than buying new (new job would allow zippered sweaters/jackets but not hoodies, so I removed the hood and fashioned a small stand up collar.) and I turned a maxi t-shirt dress that I had bought in a thrift store years ago into one just above the knee for summer.
Majority of women knew how to sew and make clothes before.. they left it for corporations, now look😂
@@puch9830 Yah well, I know how to sew but we are expected to pay 50% of the bills if in a relationship and 100% if single so the 'corporate' work was kinda needed. How much you going to pay me to hem your trousers compared to what the corporate job pays?
@@puch9830 So true, that's true with food, repairing etc. Makes us vulnerable to corporations.
My wife exclusively shops at a Goodwill outlet location that puts everything out in unsorted bins that they sell by weight. Pretty much her entire wardrobe is just expensive name brand, but that she bought for $2.50 a pound.
It seems to me that prices went up and quality went down after the COVID shutdown. When my kids were growing up, thrifting was really beneficial, because there was such a short time that kids clothes fit, and mostly they aren't worn out. The kids would have a packed closet. But that went away when the kids became teenagers. The selection that was acceptable went away or was in too bad shape. Now they have nearly empty closets of a few treasured items. But the bookshelves are still loaded.
Excessive lockdowns and the hyperinflation afterwards in 2021. The only people who benefited from those are corrupt politicians, the big corporations as many small businesses became closed, and the corrupt teachers' unions.
Thrifting was AMAZING during the pre-covid era. I recently went thrifting for the first time in a few years and it was nothing but a waste of time.
Because Kids born in newest Generation Alpha from 2011--2013 when stared depending on where you grew up ( Alpha Short hand for asshole/swipe up generation) they do not know how to read and even do all reading of books in red by a person form on rare chance they need to read even using speech functions on machines/phones or books until middle school when kids get all books on computer in a DVD form using an external DVD drive each classroom has or downloads depending on how company operates and use speech to function on how be read to buying a pair of headphones for said reason. Reason 90% of schools went his route was schools gave so much work kids backpacks were failing mainly due to having to overload backpacks beyond what is normal or seeing kids using smaller overnight/big day packs made for hiking/hunting or kids backs were being ruined.
@@JC_WT I found in 2023 Baseball hat an official MLB licenced Milwaukee Brewers, a cheaper mesh one used for a season in Little league or similar which was in bigger size kids one in a kids L/XL so hat will fit me as I am 5 foot 2 inch and even had higher end logo on said hat like a 3D sewed on patch. Reason hat was sill here is 95% of kids and adults are Minnesota Twins fans or are 10% Chicago Cubs with rest being 5% rest maybe 1/2 of tha being Colorado Rockies. Odd as Brewers are second closest team from where I live, Minnesota is first, then third is Colorado.
Next trend is making your own clothes and im calling it here
Thats what I do.
They would probably fit better than the store brands. I'm an athletic tall woman and can never find decent clothes.
recycling, tailoring, repurposing. just found hella old jeans from my hs days, gonna bring them to a tailor soon as well as get some jewelry repaired
I can already feel that becoming more of a thing now- unless my route into sustainability and fashion videos have resulted in my algorithm giving me more people who like to sew
Fabric is VERY expensive.
It was a trend in the 90's too. I saw a lot of thrift stores make way for "resale shops and boutiques" as well, and that ruined it.
You do not know how much this video is so important to me. I am doing my undergraduate thesis WITH THIS EXACT TOPIC. THIS CAME AT SUCH A PERFECT TIME!
hell yes good luck on the thesis!!!
Watch Mary Queen of Shops and how she TOLD charity shops in England to remodel like a designer boutique and attract "better" customers. It's class cleansing at its finest. So you have middle class people working there and pricing out the poor now.
As soon as Goodwill started charging extra for name brands like Nike and Under Armour, I stopped going. I get my gently used clothing now from eBay.
Now you get to pay high shipping rates as well!
The only reason there's even a market for thrift shops is because we already consume too much sh*t to begin with. This is especially true with fast fashion and electronics. Can't begin to tell you how many bluray players and old denim outfits I've personally seen in thrift shops...
Many clothes found at real thrift stores are most likely there because their previous owner died before them.
High quality clothes last multiple decades, especially if well treated. I have a cotton coat I wear atleast 100 days every year for 10 years now and it’s still rocking my outfits
Ah yes, my dead mother’s clothes were just me ‘having too much sh*t’. I should have just not had a mother
Thrift Stores have existed for a long time, but the merchandise has slowly evolved from donated products that were made to last, to donated products that will last a bit (if you're lucky) when you buy that at the thrift store. I would say it's kind of a mix right now, depending on what you're looking for, but older, better made items are getting snatched up for resale. In another ten years, there probably won't be any and it'll all just be mass produced junk that was built to break.
@@lateformyownbirth My dude, they made no statement about your mother specifically, nor any mothers for that matter. They did not necessarily state that people donating clothing after the death of a loved one was somehow inherently evil or should be stopped.
@@traviskittehthey're pointing out that 'the only reason' isn't correct
The absurdity of finding a shein item or cami tops being sold for more than the original price at goodwill will never stop getting to me
The same thing has happened to open air vegetable and meat markets around the western world. The cashed-up folks shopped at grocery stores and the poorer folks haggled at wet markets, and then there is this sudden shift of middle and upper-middle-class folks heading to wet markets and now they are no cheaper than the fucken grocery stores with their price gouging.
I'm thrifting for like 15 years, and the change of the industry is so huge- with a weight change I'm pushed back to buy used clothing , since "quality" clothing in my country is mostly fast fashion that is close fitting me. As a teen, had to keep in secret to avoid bullying where are my clothes are from.
We do have second hand store lines and also small, independent thrift shops (their actually doing charity work) is even changing into a shein drop-off that I deeply hate. Plastic clothing is like 95% of the stores. Sometimes I do find some old people clothing that I enjoy to death, but it's not the same like it used to be :")
However, importing fabrics (as you try to sew clothing) makes everything HARDER to get and create actual clothing - this makes slow down the process, which is okay, but there are lots of workplaces when you're pressured (especially woman, femmes ) to wear a clothing piece like once in a year. I know, because some people were actually making fun of other women for liking the same sets, and calling them "unhygienic", total BS. Anyways, back to waiting for linen arriving in my country!
I often run into people with 3 or 4 carts full of clothes when at a thrift shop. These are businesses using donated goods for profit
You mean like the thrift store is doing?
@@kgb4187 they're making larger profits, but I'm talking consignments. Levi addressed how online sales of used clothes is a big factor in rising prices.
As opposed to not buying the clothes? When not bought, they'll be eventually thrown in the dump. Go to a goodwill bins some time. Thousands of pounds of clothes, shoes, and goods tossed daily....everywhere.
@@ResellTheWorld quality clothes vs what should have never been donated. Cotton is recycled: those are the bins people should be filling with worn out items instead of Good Will or VV or 2nd Ave.
@@jonclark5113 so you think people should toss their clothes in the recycling? Then even more clothes will be produced instead of being reused. That takes way more energy (fuel/production) than just reselling. What you are suggesting is less sustainable. I think capitalism is your problem. People making money.
God I hate gentrification. I hate thrift flippers. I hate companies marking shit up.
Let poor people have fucking SOMETHING goddamn.
This. So much. My local thrift store is just as expensive as new and it's been picked clean by flippers.
You buy second hand clothes by the kilogram in many places where I'm from.
Honestly, blame middle class people for buying fast fashion. The lack of decent clothing is a bigger problem than the gentrification. Thrifting has been slowly gentrifying for decades. Thrift stores just can't resell shirts that were $3 in the first place, that are falling apart at the seams.
If you want to do something about the problem, call people out for buying from SHEIN, H&M, Target, etc. Realistically, people who are buying that garbage aren't poor. Poor people can't afford to buy clothing that they can only wear twice. If you can afford disposable clothing, you can afford better quality clothes. Period. No exceptions.
common poor people L
@@KNURKonesur The by weight places tend to be mostly things that thrift stores didn't think they could sell, or things that were on the salesfloor for too long.
1. Poor people deserve a bit more choice than tee shirts that say, "Smith Family Vacation 2016" on them, and stained sweatshirts with kittens on them.
2. Poor people rely on thrift stores for things like clothing for job interviews, social occasions, etc. They need more than just the bare essentials so they're not naked. They need more than just the basics, just like most people do.
3. Thrifting varies a ton based on demographics. Wealthier communities tend to have significantly better thrifting opportunities. Communities that need them the most tend to have a lot of crap. There's some degree of distribution with some chain thrift stores, but less than you'd think. They also don't redistribute based on community need. They send the best stuff back to stores in wealthier communities where they can make the most from it. (I generally don't thrift for clothes because I don't feel like one should take stuff from the people who really need it, but I will in parts of Connecticut because Goodwill will have things like Burberry coats for $100 or Canali suits for $150. My mother bought a Chanel Boy bag in excellent condition there for like $200. In that store they don't even have things like shirts from The Gap or Target on the racks. Thrifting varies A LOT. Saying "Oh, it's great near me, so it must be like that everywhere" is kind of like saying, "Well, it's raining where I am, so it must be raining everywhere.")
The problem is synthetic cheap fabrics are flooding all of the thrift stores and the consignment shops and places like Plato’s closet are all getting heavily flooded with cheap low quality synthetic fabrics that were previously already made unsustainable
The internet destroyed thrifting. Now thrift stores see expensive online listings for similar items they have so now these thrift stores match the expensive prices they see online at their thrift stores.
Large corporations also now own and control many of the larger thrift stores, which keeps prices high. I am seeing a lot of posts on social media of Goodwill increasing the price of items for Target selling them for more than the marked Target prices.
I've worked for GoodWill in Quebec (called Renaissance here) for 4 years during my studies. They have a 6 month programs set in place to training people new to the country, or have disabilities, or even have a criminal record. Not everyone hired there is on this cycle, but please understand that it can be hard to check on every single item that hits the floor. If the pricer was told that the base price of shoes HAS to be a certain amount, they will put the tag on even with the dollar store tag still attached. They shouldn't, but they're not paid enough to care. I disregard items like this. Because I know they have a quota for this minimum wage job. They do lifting, sorting, cleaning and tagging items to sell, and ending their day cleaning up the mess customers leave from their children that ran around breaking open toy bags, leaving garbage on the shelves, and clothing on the floor. It is often thankless. Be kind!
I still enjoy thrift shopping. I still donate to them.
Tip if you read this far: I recommend monthly visits for a completely different floor of goods. The color tags are the rotation system. Ask the staff what color the current week is to know what's newest to the floor.
All Goodwill shops in my area do not color code, never have sales, no discounts for senior or military/1st responders. With the exception of shoes, all categories are unit price (a few have "bin" clothing priced lower per unit, some do price up a children's RL puffer if the cashier catches it, etc. However, I've shopped at major city locations while traveling with my husband for work and have seen the stark difference in brands and quality of goods priced accordingly, sometimes luckily enough to hit the sales if there on the sale day. It may be that these city populations donate more of the better goods, but more likely the case, if you walk into a thrift and see the category board pricing on the wall, (with no shopping carts, only hand baskets), the more likely you will not find anything of real value. It's been sorted and kept off the floor if and when it gets donated.
what is the point of this comment? it's like we're having a discussing about their being lead in the ice cream machines at Mcdonalds and you start in about how hardworking and underpayed the employees are. what does that have to do with fucking anything? Nothing in the video or the comments was disparging low-level employees.
@@Vault-Born I'm not criticizing anything. This video is great! It's just to give perspective on where the money is going and what conditions they're under when discussing thrift stores and their pricing methods. My personal annoyance about dealing with customers aside. XP
Sure, it's gotten popularized on social media, but there's another reason there's an uptick in thrifting: Everything is getting more and more expensive and so there's no choice BUT to thrift.
actually clothes for the most part are getting cheaper and cheaper… and more poorly made
@@sofearthwindfia Yeah, though even if clothes are cheaper, everything else isn't!
A shirt at Winners used to cost 25-30$ new and 5-10 at Value Village. Now they cost 30-35$ new and 20-25$ at Value Village... This is not about inflation
True. I can't afford to pay $30 for a new bra. So I go to a thrift store that have some in great shape for $4.50 .....BUT WAIT! ....It has a yellow tag so it's 50% off!! I try to shop the 50% off tag colours.
@@l.5832 Always great when you find a deal like that.
We recently got a thrift store near my house and it is interesting seeing how the prices change. I'm all for sustainability and am also a person who can see potential in things. I found a pair of capris that were on sale, but were brand new. They were obviously donated due to a manufacturing flaw. It had five buttons on them when there should have been four and three of them were sewn directly on the top of the leg instead of on the belt. I took them home, moved everything around and now they are perfect!
Thank you for thinking of those who need to shop in thrift stores. Key ethical concern.
class cleansing
I'm not poor, but I don't make a lot of money and so I have to be resourceful. I used to wear about 90% thrifted clothes. Not anymore. I like brands like Boden and Madewell, but I can't afford those new. So I learned to sew. There's a salvage store near me that has a large and awesome fabric department. I buy patterns when they go on extreme sale at Joann, or I buy them secondhand from online sellers (Etsy, etc). My sewing machine and most of my sewing tools were bought secondhand (mostly from FB Marketplace). I love my handmade clothes and I feel proud of wearing them!
That is amazing! I give you a lot of credit!
Learned to sew?!? YOU can be on my Zombie Apocalypse Team, my dear!
@@Gothlite-i1l :-D My son (age 23) has said a very similar thing to me several times. Not that it's a thing I want to think about very much, but if society collapsed somehow, I actually have a meaningful skill that I could contribute to a community!
@@Gothlite-i1l You could learn if you wanted. Lots of You Tube channels show how to sew/quilt, crochet, etc.
@@beckypetersen2680 You are so correct! In fact, my daughter and I have made it one of our 2025 goals to learn to sew with the sewing machine I got as a gift two years ago. I'm going to clean off a vintage tea table in our living room (which has been turned into a painting studio for my daughter) and put the machine there. I have tried to learn many times over the years, but finally gave up about 15 years ago when my girls and I paid for a 4-H course and the teacher stopped showing up after the second lesson. No reason, and no refund. This time, with the help of great vids, we will be self-taught and maybe get a bit more out of it. I do slow stitching so I can mend and a little more, but we are determined this time.
i miss when thrift stores were only for poor people, i had to pretend i didnt get all my stuff there when i was a kid but now all the clothes are overpriced crap made in the last 10 years, so maybe the stigma was worth being able to get decent quality clothing at a good price
thirft stores were never "only" for poor people. thrifting was popular for people from all across the socioeconomic spectrum, when i was growing up in the 80s and 90s.
@@helpfulcommenterMaybe where you lived, where I grew up, you would be bullied for that shit. I never let anyone find out I mainly wore secondhand stuff for that reason as a kid
@@randomtinypotatocried are you talking about being an actual child or like being a teenager? because yeah where i greew up if you wore nice clothes as a teenager you'd get clowned, you had to thrift your clothes to look cool. 80s/90s.
@@helpfulcommenterI got bullied for wearing hand me downs the year I started junior high. Then I'm high school some of the cool kids started wearing "vintage", but it was niche 70s stuff like bellbottoms that weren't cheap. I got two pairs of jeans at the beginning of the year and just had to patch them as the knees gave out.
@@francisnopantses1108 and look at you now
My prime thrifting years were 1984 to 1999. You could get amazing, stylish, quality clothes for a decent price. By the time of the early 2000's there was a lot of poor quality items around and the good stuff was getting skimmed off and sold for hundreds. I can't imagine how thrifting would be worth it anymore. I still have some great items, I'm probably sitting in a goldmine!
There are a lot of wealthy people out there that will throw good clothing out because it has a small grease stain on it, or a very tiny fabric pull or whatever. I think just in that sense, that they can donate it versus throwing it in the trash is 100% a good for the planet.
So true! I got a secondhand cashmere sweater for 90 cents because it had a tiny hole in it, which I sewed shut 🤷♀️
Especially when they are decluttering they donate locally. I usually go to a thrift store where there's a rich neighborhood. 😊
Doesn't even need a reason, my mother has a rich ladyfriend who buys expensive cloths and only wears them once or twice, then they go in a garbage bag and she gifts them away to her friends or donates.
@@JP-ve7or i’ve found so much incredibly expensive clothing that’s just like a two minute job with rubbing alcohol to get a tiny stain out, or the grease stain that you put Dawn on and then put in the laundry.
Lots of really wealthy people have literally zero tolerance for any imperfection in their clothing, no matter how small or hard to notice it is. And i’m here for it.
Mending is my superpower!
It’s honestly wild how growing up poor, I was used to getting pennies thrown at me by other kids for not wearing branded clothing cause it either came from goodwill or dollar general. Now those same people have grown up and are thrifting cause it’s cool now 🥴 Like don’t get me wrong, I’m glad more people are thrifting now, but it’s just really ironic isn’t it? It really sucks that the clothes I’ve bought from goodwill lately have just absolutely fallen apart in less than 2 years :(
I grew up with a single mom who could only shop at thrift stores. I remember in the early 2000's shopping as a child and going to school in what I found at the thrift. By the time I got to college, I had thrifted everything in my closet! I remember people being shocked at the vintage pieces I had found. I did get my share of "that's gross, I could never wear someone's old clothes!" so when It got popular to thrift I was honestly super excited!
I have never been able to wrap my head around why people would think used clothing is gross. We have washing machines. If your friend offered you a top or pants you liked you would take them home gladly, same difference just a different human. 😊
When my mother was alive she said; "I don't get it! They're getting all these things donated to them for free, but when they sell them they charge about the same price that you can buy it new at another store." She specifically was talking about Salvation Army at the time. And I agree 100% because I have seen it for myself.
because resellers are price fixing, it needs to be illegal
When you said that the responsibility for providing affordable clothing to low income people falls on these **companies**, right after talking about how these companies were jacking up prices just because they can, that really disturbed me. That's messed up, and I know this is how things work in many areas, but I never thought about it with clothes before. They're responsible, not the government, and they don't have to follow any rules for their pricing. Thanks for laying it out that way!
resellers are price fixing to class cleanse clothes
The TV show Fallout had an interesting example of circularity. One of the main characters in this post apocalyptic world lives in an underground vault, which has one wedding dress that all brides use, and then sign with their name and wedding date. They even make a joke about brides usually do not spend much time in the dress anyway, so it makes sense to share
That's a really good idea! Also, back in the day, wedding dresses were meant to be taken apart, dyed, and restructured into dresses for the bride to wear regularly.
@@JP-ve7or Back in the day they brought a suit and didn't reconstruct it at all.
Wedding dresses used to be handed down from one generation to the next. Before Queen Victoria II wore a white dress for her wedding, brides just wore the best dress they had for their wedding. No biggee.
You'll never encounter an angrier thrift store shopper than the one who's loading up their cart with things to resell.
I have been second hand shopping for 50 years. I have had some pieces that I bought twenty five years ago. Quality pieces. It’s rare these days.
It's been bastardized by greedy resellers. I repair/make stuff from old clothing and seeing what people charge make me gag. That tattered Hanes sweatshirt from 2008 you're selling is not worth $50, get a grip 🤢
Why is it greedy to resell? Supply and demand. Is the original retailer greedy for making money selling the clothes in the first place?
@@ResellTheWorld Yes, slave labour + cheapest material + marking the price way up is greed. What tf did you think it was, charitable behaviour?
So true! I've ordered a "vintage" dress (it has overlocked seams so not very old...) thinking it was in good condition considering the price of $60, nope... it came with holes! I now have an unwearable dress! They just rip you off because they can get away with it :S
If people are buying it, then it _is_ worth the price.
Most of the time the problem comes down to consumer behaviour.
@@someguycalledcerberus9805 I was just thinking about that- I work at a tourist spot (today's my last day actually lol) The amount of people who buy the gift shop trash is _insane._ Instead of getting a nice, unique souvenir, ppl act like they _have_ to buy a low qual magnet that every store has. It gets made in China, wrapped in plastic and shipped to Canada. Then ppl buy it AND TAKE IT BACK TO CHINA. Like what? 😭
I stopped going to our local chain thrift store when their security guard stalked and harassed me through the store because he thought I was trying to steal stuff (I was not). Yes a security guard. For the thrift store.
Can't blame him when in many cities, shoplifting have rising for years because of corrupt mayors relaxing of even refusing to enforce laws against shoplifting and go after businesses who attempt to catch shoplifters with lawsuits.
I started thrifting on 1983, and I still do it, though the vintage stuff is long gone. I can sometimes find decent modern clothes amongst the Shein and Lularoe, but the prices are ridiculous at a lot of stores.
I've always thrifted. Used to because you can get designer clothing cheap. Now it's because the clothing made many years ago now, are better made. You can have your shirt or pants last a lifetime. The stuff made now is just landfill ready apparel at huge cost.
i was diagnosed with a terminal illness, my mother in law donated all my things to value village and union gospel mission without my permission, I went there with proof of the items being mine and that I didnt donate them and to please either let me buy them back or get them back because they were my family heirlooms they said no and told me to leave. They need to fix that because what they did to me was horrible and I dont know if I will ever recover from the pain.
There’s a problem with all this. People (like me) who can’t afford… really most stuff new HAVE to go to those stores because EVERYTHING is too expensive otherwise. I had to get a $5 rug at 5 below and a 99¢ one at goodwill because the floors in my apartment are just… the worst. And I had to wait for 5 months to get those when I had wiggle room for once.
And that’s before you get into the clothes that are worn to the last thread.
So I need thrift stores. But they suck because they aren’t as affordable as they used to and they’re horrifically picked over. Cheap SHEIN type stuff overloads them and nothing in my size is really… there. I’m not even a weird size, kinda average which is actually the issue.
It sucks and makes me have to hunt down deals elsewhere which only makes it worse when I don’t know when I’ll have like… new socks or that one off thing I need for the kitchen or something.
Now? NOW? It's sucked for DECADES. I used to play in a rockabilly/psychobilly band right before the Swing Revival happened in the 90s. Before, we could go to Salvation Army or Goodwill and get authentic 50s clothing for next to nothing. Once the Revival hit, the thrift shop people swooped in like vultures, bought up everything, and put it in their stores to resell at 100x what they got it for. Thrifting has pretty much always been garbage because of nostalgia and trends.
Thank you. I remember thrifting sucking in the 90's because of grunge.
About 30 years ago I lived in a small community and the set up a Free Store. It was so people in need could go and just take what they needed, for free, and people would donate things they didn't want. Then they expanded and everything in the store was $2. Some days they'd have a 'bag day' and everything you could stuff in a plastic grocery bag, in bag cost you $2. So it was still a good deal. Then they expanded again and prices started getting comparable to the thrift stores in town. The internet allowed people to check on resell price values. Too bad....I remember buying a brand new cat flap door still in it's package for $2 and an entire bathroom set of towel bar, robe hook,toilet paper holder, etc for $2. Those days are long gone.....
I remember moving to Alaska when we were first married (1986) and commenting to the people up there that the thrift stores up there had a lot better quality than ones in the lower 48. Then, we discussed that it was probably because at the time, there were very few of the cheaper stores for people to buy from, so the clothes being donated to the second hand shops were better quality. So, IMO, this "bad quality at the thrift stores" is really nothing new. It is somewhat amusing to see people calling it that.
i have found some HEAT at the thrift store, like a shirt with extremely confusing lettering. i found 2 crop tops at a bougie thrift store and i turned 1 into a long sleeve shirt and the other i decorated with bleach. by far the best thing i have found at a thrift store was a $15 WORKING air fryer. its amazing. the big problem seems to be the influx of low quality clothing at the thrift. most of the shirts i donate dont fit me or were free shirts that i almost never wear. i almost gave one of my band shirts to the thrift, but then my grandma wanted it. i wear shirts at night and during the day, so it makes since why i have more shirts than anything
Really long shot. But just in case it's a Cosori air fryer, there was a major recall where they could catch fire. Maybe someone donated it because they didn't want to go through the hassle.
I've scored some REALLY nice stuff at my local Goodwill, including a steamer, brand new couch, and a toaster oven! I think it was only about $50 altogether?
Also yes to sharing clothes with family! My cousins and I will swap wardrobes once or twice a year! I actually still have a skirt from the late 90s that five of my cousins wore before I ended up with it. It's still my favorite one tbh.
I’ve always loved thrift shopping, but the last couple of months I’ve noticed the Salvation Armies in IOWA have really been jacking up the prices. Sometimes within on,y a few dollars less than brand new!
I'm a life long thrifter... (at almost 63 I have a low income) so I now shop at the bins and at yard sales when I can... I also donate and take from neighborhood free boxes to save money for bills. The only time I buy new clothing is when I buy from small vendors - at the renaissance faires I work at and the conventions I work at.
Thrift store are not a thing in my country and the very few that exist are mostly niche stuff. So I resorted to buy quality instead of quantity. Works for me so I'm sticking with it.
I really like the "Buy Nothing Project" for second hand stuff.
Used to buy clothes used like 10 years ago but the value proposition has plummeted as prices surged. Hard to justify buying possibly damaged clothing with a worse return policy when the price is comparable (and very often higher) than buying new.
It's entirely ruined in my city.
I remember pre covid, getting bags of great clothing for $2-5 a piece. Went thrifting again recently, found one decent item and they wanted $20 😐
Where I live in Canada, thrift stores have no change rooms so you can't try them on before buying and there are NO refunds or exchanges. (I don't buy much now)
Great video. One note... At 2:02 it says "in the70's" but everything that follows in that segment is from the 1960's. (Source: I was a little kid in the 60's and a teen in the 70's. Vastly different decades.)
Agree to everything. I would like to add a trend that I’m seeing. The nicer things are not being donated, rather, the owners are posting them to Facebook, Craigslist,etc. This is particularly obvious when I look for better-made designer furniture or handbags (like vintage Dooney & Burke or Coach) in my North Texas area. IMO
I like to buy used clothes. I live in east Germany and there is a chain called ReSales. But the last years the quality noticeably decreased. Especially the mens area is getting significant smaller every time I visit one of their stores. I like classic menswear, but long coats are gone and suits are only available in "kids sizes" (I'm quite large).
Just cause you're large it doesn't make other men "kids" bro
a brand i really like - freedom rave wear launched a secondhand resell program for used rave clothes and i am so happy about that! i wish more brands would launch programs like that
I used to almost exclusively purchase thrifted items until 2022. From 2020-2022, I saw more and more fast fashion and fast “manufacturing” items take over thrift stores near me. I haven’t found anything worth purchasing secondhand from a local thrift store since 2022, honestly. Instead, I have focused on purchasing secondhand items from private sellers and vintage stores that focus on high-quality items. It’s more expensive, but I know what I’m purchasing will last a long time.
This is spot on. I noticed recently fast fashion pieces appearing in Goodwill. I have to go to curated, niche shops to find heirloom quality pieces and you certainly pay the price (roughly $50-$70). I justify the inflated cost by comparing it to buying a new heirloom quality piece for upwards of $200-$300
If I see someone post an old t shirt for $300 on eBay does that seller really expect it to sell for that much? Thrifting has become unaffordable now.
That's for the collector, not the person who actually needs a shirt.
It’s mainly due to having a lower percentage of high quality clothes produced and eventually you end up with a lot of plastics and neylon clothing passed down to thrift shops.
One thing rarely mentioned is how thrifting can be basically useless for people who are big and tall, slim or short. It isn’t something for everyone.
You said it! I was a 2XLT and it was a struggle to find anything that fit or that wasn't already worn out. Now that I've crept into 3XLT forget it I have to buy new.
Heck, or these days even being a small or medium, or like 28 waist 32 leg or something is really hard to find at thrift shops - feels like everything is size L or XL and nothing else.
Weirdly, with my odd shaped feet I've had better luck at thrift stores than at many retailers. And discount shoe stores basically never carry my size.
I used to thrift all the time bc we couldn’t afford anything new. Goodwill and Unique were lifesavers for us. But now it’s sad to see that a shirt from Unique can cost twice as much as buying it brand new. Luckily now I can afford clothes from big brands from time to time, but I feel sorry for families in situations were thrifting is no longer an affordable option.
My mother started thrifting when we were kids back in 1969. My father worked and my mom stayed home to take care of us kids. So there was no money for luxury. The current village discounts were the AMVET stores. You could find most items for 50 cents or 1 dollar. I have been thrifting for 50 plus years. Thrifting has not been a fad with me, but a way of life. Thrift on people!
During the 90's, almost all of the clothes I wore to my office job came from thrift stores. If I couldn't find it at the Salvo, I didn't own it. Skirts, button-down shirts, blouses - all 2nd hand. Socks, pantyhose, and underwear were the only things purchased new. Nowadays, I score old T-shirts and sweatpants for gardening and hiking. The $30 shirts that I do own are worn when going someplace nice-ish.
I think Macklemore's viral song "Thrift Shop" also had a hand in making thrift stores more popular again in this cycle
Thrifting is commonplace. But you know people want it cheap. They're not gonna be investing so much on clothes that they're only gonna wear a few times and then change it for better ones that are more better in overall quality.
I recently went to about 8 charity shops (UKs version of thrift stores) on one road, and all the quality clothes were very expensive. like £50+ for a 100% cotton shirt for a guy. But all the shein branded shit was rarely over £5...
I've got a few rules I follow.
1. Don't shop for fun. Only get things I need.
2. When I need something check the thrift stores first.
3. Buy higher quality things. Natural fibers where possible.
4. Wear them as long as possible.
5. Repair.
6. Anything that's still in good condition that I can't wear I donate to a local church. They give clothing away for free to those who need it.
7. Anything that's in poor condition gets disassembled and used as rags or for it's hardware parts. I love saving zippers and buttons because I sew.
I'm just trying not to be wasteful.
It's crazy to think that not that long ago in the history of humanity, we lived in small communities and wore hand made clothing for functionality, and this entire issue just didn't exist. Humanity is crazy