Interesting discussion, but one thing that kept amazing me was how they each spoke in their own language as if they were both speaking the same language. Even if they both know both languages, it's got to be tough to keep to your own language the whole time.
I didn't find it so, and was immediately delighted at the reveal, that you can speak with someone in a language you don't speak well as long as you both understand the speech of the other's lang. This is great for English speakers because English is the primary second language. It helps of course if both are speaking clearly in a received register of their own lang.
he obviously has an IEM. like, obviously. you can hear it at 24:29. there's also a couple of moments where he replies to something else than what the host meant ("what happens when I make the conscious decision to move my arm?" - "the way the brain moves our eyes is this: ...")
The problem with naturalism, especially physicalism, is that it completely excludes transcendental metaphysics. This leaves unanswered questions such as: - Why does nothingness not exist? But this is important if, for example, one has a transcendental understanding of God. That would be like looking for the inventor (here: God) of the chess game on the chess board between the chess pieces, even before one has discovered the player (here: consciousness, reason, intelligence, soul). The most important question in naturalism is then only the question of how free the will really is between all the genes and memes. Humans, however, seem to have a peculiarity here too and can make evolutionarily irrational decisions, such as sacrifice or even suicide (emotional decisions), which are not found in other fauna. Furthermore, it is interesting that burials are documented even before Home Sapiens, i.e. the question of life after death seems to have concerned hominids for a long time.
Nothing can't exist, because something is necessary. "Nothing" and "existence" in one sentence creates an oxymoron; in other words the question is flawed. Humans don't have free will, you can't decide what you want to do and you can't choose what you believe. Suicide is biological dysfunction. Life after death is wishful thinking and of course one of the first thoughts you will have when you are able to grasp the thought that you don't want to die. Thus when you are able to build complex thoughts with your brain it is one of the first logical thoughts that will cross your mind. Human irrationality, including behaviors like suicide, isn’t unique but reflects deep evolutionary roots shared with animals. In harsh environments, some species-including humans-may sacrifice themselves under extreme stress, which, while tragic, could reduce resource strain on kin and increase the survival of close relatives. The only reason for humans often not having a clear evolutionary reason for suicide may be that we are the only species with such a complex brain that are able to grasp thoughts that would be necessary for a suicidal person (through biological changes within this complex system).
According to this guy, illusions do not exist, because everything is real, and mind does not exist because an illusion exists which do not exist, because everything is real, and mind does not exist because an illusion exists which do not exist, because everything is real, and mind does not exist because an illusion exists which do not exist, because everything is real, and mind does not exist because an illusion exists which do not exist, because everything is real, and mind does not exist because an illusion exists which do not exist, because everything is real, and mind does not exist because an illusion exists [see word 1].
At 5:20 Dennett finally tells us the real reason he became an atheist. Namely, that he didn’t like a pastor, but not because of logic or reason. In other words, it’s not that he doesn’t believe in God per say. But rather he hates the idea of being accountable to God. And he was resentful to a pastor. So now we know. Pride.
I think he is a bit past that bro. I was raised catholic (which if there was a true Christianity would be the one, just because all the others are bastards of it) but I came to similar conclusions and I was about 8 years old. I don't remember disliking anyone but I do have a card from my first communion teacher saying faith is a gift, there doesn't have to be a reasonable answer. Presumably you are someone who can believe and that's great, but most people (increasingly thankfully) can't.
You wish that to be the case. In fact need that to be the case. Theists (especially of the very dull Christian type) understand that their worldview, along with all of its unproven, illogical clap-trap, is a flimsy house of cards. The growth of the "nones" and the decline of fundamentalist religion in the West is daily proof that the manacles of religion are falling away. Praise God for that. Keep deluding yourself into believing that highly intelligent individuals, such as Dennet, are simply too proud to bow the knee to your imaginary overlord. That helps you sleep at night, I'm sure, the thought of having a celestial jack boot permanently planted on your skull.
You people cannot fathom somebody becoming atheist through logic, so you look for easy other explanations which fit into your framework (sins). Maybe it was the reason for him to start doubting, but it isn't "the real reason" for him having been atheist. He had a bunch of reasons.
That's a classic mistake in Socratic dialogue. There are always two reasons you believe something or rather two understandings. The first is the real reason why you adapted the view, like you mention here and the second is why you think that your view or opinion makes sense as an argument. The reason (1) why 99% of religious people are religious is because they learned it at an early age. Reason 2 differs from that and that's the same with Dennet here.
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Thanks for uploading this in this "raw" form, very interesting!
Finally, Daniel Dennett's appearance on this valuable program! Thank you. I've greatly appreciated it, in particular in the orignal, undubbed version.
Brilliantes Interview! Danke Daniel Dennett ... * 28. März 1942; † 19. April 2024
Übrigens Charles Darwin ist ebenfalls am 19.4. verstorben (19.4.1882)
Thanks for the subtitled version
Amazing mind and an informative interview. Thanks!
very nice qs from the journalist
Interesting discussion, but one thing that kept amazing me was how they each spoke in their own language as if they were both speaking the same language. Even if they both know both languages, it's got to be tough to keep to your own language the whole time.
I didn't find it so, and was immediately delighted at the reveal, that you can speak with someone in a language you don't speak well as long as you both understand the speech of the other's lang. This is great for English speakers because English is the primary second language. It helps of course if both are speaking clearly in a received register of their own lang.
he obviously has an IEM. like, obviously. you can hear it at 24:29. there's also a couple of moments where he replies to something else than what the host meant ("what happens when I make the conscious decision to move my arm?" - "the way the brain moves our eyes is this: ...")
The problem with naturalism, especially physicalism, is that it completely excludes transcendental metaphysics.
This leaves unanswered questions such as:
- Why does nothingness not exist?
But this is important if, for example, one has a transcendental understanding of God.
That would be like looking for the inventor (here: God) of the chess game on the chess board between the chess pieces, even before one has discovered the player (here: consciousness, reason, intelligence, soul).
The most important question in naturalism is then only the question of how free the will really is between all the genes and memes.
Humans, however, seem to have a peculiarity here too and can make evolutionarily irrational decisions, such as sacrifice or even suicide (emotional decisions), which are not found in other fauna.
Furthermore, it is interesting that burials are documented even before Home Sapiens, i.e. the question of life after death seems to have concerned hominids for a long time.
All these questions have been addressed. Reach past your information stream.
Sean Carrol has some great info on this.
Nothing can't exist, because something is necessary. "Nothing" and "existence" in one sentence creates an oxymoron; in other words the question is flawed. Humans don't have free will, you can't decide what you want to do and you can't choose what you believe. Suicide is biological dysfunction. Life after death is wishful thinking and of course one of the first thoughts you will have when you are able to grasp the thought that you don't want to die. Thus when you are able to build complex thoughts with your brain it is one of the first logical thoughts that will cross your mind. Human irrationality, including behaviors like suicide, isn’t unique but reflects deep evolutionary roots shared with animals. In harsh environments, some species-including humans-may sacrifice themselves under extreme stress, which, while tragic, could reduce resource strain on kin and increase the survival of close relatives. The only reason for humans often not having a clear evolutionary reason for suicide may be that we are the only species with such a complex brain that are able to grasp thoughts that would be necessary for a suicidal person (through biological changes within this complex system).
Bernardo Kastrup has, in my humble opinion, successfully argues for the existence of God.
No. I know it makes you feel good but no.
And let’s just pretend, why worship something that created so much evil.
@@dukeallen432 What's the problem with Kastrup's philosophy in your opinion?
No idea why people call him in philosophy, that is better gave us the prediction or direction, etc
According to this guy, illusions do not exist, because everything is real, and mind does not exist because an illusion exists which do not exist, because everything is real, and mind does not exist because an illusion exists which do not exist, because everything is real, and mind does not exist because an illusion exists which do not exist, because everything is real, and mind does not exist because an illusion exists which do not exist, because everything is real, and mind does not exist because an illusion exists which do not exist, because everything is real, and mind does not exist because an illusion exists [see word 1].
hahahahah
Misrepresentation. Everything is real is Platonism and the opposite of what he says.
That's not what he says.
Qualia! Drink!
Dan Dennett and I look like identical twins, from behind.
At 5:20 Dennett finally tells us the real reason he became an atheist. Namely, that he didn’t like a pastor, but not because of logic or reason. In other words, it’s not that he doesn’t believe in God per say. But rather he hates the idea of being accountable to God. And he was resentful to a pastor. So now we know. Pride.
I think he is a bit past that bro. I was raised catholic (which if there was a true Christianity would be the one, just because all the others are bastards of it) but I came to similar conclusions and I was about 8 years old. I don't remember disliking anyone but I do have a card from my first communion teacher saying faith is a gift, there doesn't have to be a reasonable answer. Presumably you are someone who can believe and that's great, but most people (increasingly thankfully) can't.
You wish that to be the case. In fact need that to be the case. Theists (especially of the very dull Christian type) understand that their worldview, along with all of its unproven, illogical clap-trap, is a flimsy house of cards. The growth of the "nones" and the decline of fundamentalist religion in the West is daily proof that the manacles of religion are falling away. Praise God for that. Keep deluding yourself into believing that highly intelligent individuals, such as Dennet, are simply too proud to bow the knee to your imaginary overlord. That helps you sleep at night, I'm sure, the thought of having a celestial jack boot permanently planted on your skull.
why would you be thankful for not being able to have faith?@@Microninja
You people cannot fathom somebody becoming atheist through logic, so you look for easy other explanations which fit into your framework (sins). Maybe it was the reason for him to start doubting, but it isn't "the real reason" for him having been atheist. He had a bunch of reasons.
That's a classic mistake in Socratic dialogue. There are always two reasons you believe something or rather two understandings. The first is the real reason why you adapted the view, like you mention here and the second is why you think that your view or opinion makes sense as an argument. The reason (1) why 99% of religious people are religious is because they learned it at an early age. Reason 2 differs from that and that's the same with Dennet here.
Let's call him a "Tea-ist"
funny when people hear that when i do not believe in the big bang theory then i would automatically believe in the abrahamic god of some flavor.
Sadhguru würde sich im Grab umdrehen, und er ist nicht einmal tot.
Shadguru is a fraud.
santa clause
designed by the evolution. lol. look at the weak human compared to the one 2000 years ago and more.
evolution. lol. abrahamic mumbo jumbo. lol. big bang. lol