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@@SonicDriveStudio Hi there, perhaps you could do another quick video where you edited out all these isolated parts together for easy listening comparison? Thanks a 1000 beforehand!
@@ScottBrunelleMusic The only thing it lacks when compared to for example EVH 5150 III 50W EL34 is punch in the low end, it's very noticible when using good headphones. But in the mix, you can easily fill that space up with bass
That Dual Rec just always slays. It just fills the spectrum so nicely and feels so open in the top end. You have a particularly nice sounding example too.
I would be perfect if you upload the separate wav files of each amp alone, plus the di if possible so we can analyze the difference in our own daw without TH-cam shitty compression. 10/10 flawless as always.
Павел Сверчков I disagree. I use very affordable studio headphones. The MG900 to be exact. In between each brand of amp is a pretty big difference, but for example going from Rectifier to Rectifier or going from EVH to EVH of course there’s not going to be a huge difference
Павел Сверчков I disagree. I use very affordable studio headphones. The MG900 to be exact. In between each brand of amp is a pretty big difference, but for example going from Rectifier to Rectifier or going from EVH to EVH of course there’s not going to be a huge difference
I'm listening on my phone speakers just cause my headphones aren't on me at the moment - and I can hear clear differences. And I'm barely a guitar player haha.
This channel is awesome. I think this test would be even better to show people what all this sounds like with *exactly* the same IR for every amp. IR/real world speakers in cabs make a massive difference, but amps always decide the initial tonal balance and distortion character and feel varies a lot. Love it
I can't decide which one I want to buy. I want them all. They all sound so amazing and unique. Btw, that time code in the description was super helpful for hearing the clear differences between amps.
On that case run through various amps of your choice via Time Stamp in description. Every Amp sounds different. This video is a quiet informative. @Sonic Drive Studio Great Job brother.
To my ears (and JBL Control One's) the ENGLs had a lot more low end detail and clarity. the Dark terror was just extremely muddy in the low end and there was no articulation to it.
“They all sound almost the same” on the mix... but you can feel the difference mostly on your hands. When you’re actually playing. And, listening carefully you can get the difference
clear explanation of the main features of each amp, including current price, showing the settings, same riff, great video and sound, not to mention a delightful riff. Man !! You did a fantastic job!!! Thank you so much for sharing!! Now ...what is your favourite??? All of them seem to get close to your tone, I guess Mesa and Eng are the best.
Thanks for your kind words! My favorite... hmmm. In the case of this video I would say these were some of the best ones for me personally: JMP1, Dual Terror, Mark V 35 but I loved most of them in their own way tbh.
kind of what I was thinking.... I mean, they all sounded good, and I'm sure that they have way different ranges of what they can do and features, but they all essentially sounded the same in this.
@@SonicDriveStudio Great vid, man. Very noticable differences there of course, and you can really hear the different EQ profiles especially coming through. I'd love to see a video where EQ is really taken into account i.e 'The Marshall sounds bright and the Orange sounds dark, but by adjusting EQ, how similar can we make them sound?'. That would be fascinating to me. Anyway, keep up the good work.
Everything sounded great IMO. None sounded disappointing to me. I've always been happy with the 6505+ head that I've had for so long, but you've gotta' love that Dual Rec tone. And I agree with some others regarding the PRS MT15 bringing it pretty nicely for a low-wattage amp, very focused. The nice cab sims definitely seem to play an important role in getting such good sounds.
Here are the amps that impressed me the most: Paul Reed Smith MT15, Hughes and Kettner Grandmeister Deluxe 40, Mesa Boogie Mark V Thirty-Five, ENGL Ironball, and Laney Ironheart 60. If I had to choose a favorite, probably between the MT15 and Grandmeister Deluxe 40.
I'm on high end studio monitors and they all sound very close! The PRS MT15 sounded the best in this comparison to my ears. Get the most affordable one if you want this tone!
I too was amazed at home similar these all sounded too...and I'm usually a stickler for guitar tone. I'd argue that 90% of these were no different from each other than moving a mic an inch in any direction. A few like the JMP1 stood out as being a bit thin and lifeless but I'd be happy with almost all those tones. I'd love to hear a similar comparison with a way cleaner sound just on the edge of breakup. That's where the tones of various amps vary the most IMHO.
Through my Adam a5x monitors, most of them do sound similar in the mix! Most amps sounded very 5150/6505 based to me. Just the Mesa Boogies, Marshalls and Orange Rockerverb were unique (imo). I think, if you wanna buy an amp , go with that one that feels the best for you, while playing.
Here my comparison 10 real Amps and same Real Cab: www.sinmix.pl/2017/04/21/10-amps-and-one-cab-comparison/ You can find also part II on my website - one Amp and 10 diff cabs.
I am blown away by the PRS o.O !!! I didn't expect it to be that chunky and throaty. I don't know how it would do with a singer in the mix but clearly it sounds gorgeous. I don't know if it's the result of double tracking but most amps give a lot of space in the middle which I believe is perfect for the mix.
The dual rectifier sounded nice. The laneys did too. But what I love about these videos is being able to show the die hard Marshall fans how much better most amps are
This confirms how much I love my OR15, keeps up with the greats and I think even beats most of them. I'm slowly becoming an Orange fan, used to not like them. Great job on the demo!
This just made me want to get a 5150/6505 even more, sure the dual rectifier has more punch but it also costs hell of a lot more. Surprised to see a couple of the Orange-amps sounding that good also. Good video :)
The best thing about this video is that you made all of these amps sound amazing! I see a lot of review videos from popular websites and retailers that make the equipment sound like shit. Like if you just type in Orange Tiny Terror into youtube, you'll get dozens of videos that don't do that little giant justice. Dual Rec and EVH el34 take the win for me. Definetely subscribing! Thank you!
I noticed that too.I especially liked the IRT studio. If you gave it a bit of the 5150 grit and transparency to create a bit more raw string sounds ut would be the best sounding ampmto my ears. I own a 5150 and boost it with an EQ pedal. I'm sorry to say, none of these amps get the sound I am getting currently. ENGL sounds nasally. Axe FX sound weak. PRS sounded great in the mid range vocally but lacked luster in the raw high and lows. Marshalls as usual are very vocal in the mid to high range but lack the grit and some transperency in the sound especially in the highs. Hugues and ketner was ok but nothing fancy. Orange is unique but almost a one trick pony like ENGL. It becomes a signature sound but genre specific which doesn't fit as well with these riffs. I came here to decide what sponsor I will allow me to use their gear to represent them one day.... ;)
I'm using Helix native (because of your amazing videos) and its sounds awesome compared to real amps and other VSTs. Thank you very much, Helix was a discovery for me!
@@SonicDriveStudio has helix gotten much better in the last couple of updates? Because when I had it I thought that vsts like th3 were much more amp like...
@@WholeLottaBulldog I don't know if they changed anything in the existing amps but the more recent additions sound killer! I also really dig a lot of the older ones though so perhaps they made some enhancements after all....
Great vid. Great playing. I like all of the amps, but I’m digging the lunchbox amps right now. The Engl’s of course sound amazing. The Peavey 6505MH sounds great but I also like the Grandmeister 40 deluxe a lot. I think it’s a great amp that is underrated.
What is your opinion on the Ultra channel? Personally I have been using and enjoying the Lead channel more. Your video on the GrandMeister is awesome as well. Maybe you could do a video using the Grandmeister with different boost pedals and or other pedals.
If you think these all sound exactly the same, you need to reassess your means of listening to music. There are nuances between some of these amps and some GLARING differences as well. How often are people listening to an EP of raw, unprocessed guitar tones on their record player or streaming on their favorite streaming service? Never. The context of the mix is everything. What this does demonstrate is, is how you can get a great hard rock/metal tone out of a HUGE range of amps and at a big range in prices. Kudos to those who recognize the service this provides. Those who can't create, often hate. Thanks for the video Jon!
You could make a danelectro honeytone sound great within a mix, most people don’t listen to unmixed amps on record, but they do every time they play them by themselves, I would also have liked if atleast the eq was set at noon on all the amplifiers, now it just shows how good these amps are at creating one preferred distorted tone
I AGREE that IN MOST part they do sound pretty much familiar....of course my ear does pick up different tones.....so Nick don't put down anyone's opinion ....another 58 people agreed with JM......have a great day Nick....
ESP/Mike I wasn’t “putting down,” anyone’s opinion. I just don’t agree with it and that is allowed. Also, I stated that those who said they sounded “exactly the same,” should reassess how they listen.
the hughes&kettner sounded the most different to me, a little bit fuzzy almost. marshall also pretty recognisable because of that typical marshall high end
Great video. And just proves that with a certain set of pickups, IR and mix you're gonna get more or less the same between different amps. If anything this reminds me why I *don't* need an Axe FX or Dual Rec..
in this style and settings displayed, the ones that I would pick for making records would be prs, evh's both, mesa mini & mk v, fireball, ironheart. If I had to narrow down to three: prs, fireball & ironheart. most precise sounds and distinctive voices to my taste. great video!
Total surprise to me that I like the 5150 III LBX far and away the most. It's so perfectly suited for the studio sound - fits in a mix but still sounds gigantic. Time to pick one up I guess?
This was really neat. The very beginning of the riff (first 12 seconds or so) gave me a very Deftones vibe which I love. Very cool riff and excellent amp collection!
Thanks for taking the time to make this video! Very helpful for prospective amp buyers. I was thinking if getting an Invective 120 but now I'm thinking the PRS MT15 sounds damn good for way less.
Mark from Periphery, ironically, plays the MT15 when he doesn't have his fractal axe. The Invective is very versatile for a Peavey, and there is also a 15watt Invective now. I love Periphery, and both amps you state, but unless you play live and need 120watts, I'd go with the MT15. But take a look at the smaller Invective too. I bet the 15w Invective paired with the MT15 would be a Great stereo rig.
I think these videos really speak more to the people who have experienced these amps themselves. The people are saying they sound the same but I’m half way through and I have played every amp so far. They all sound like I remember them. The first three sounded drastically different. I can hear the small and big power sections. I can hear those crazy transients on the 5153. I can hear that rumbly bass on the rectifiers and the kids on the Mark 5. But I only hear those things because I’ve had those amps and felt that myself. You gotta know what you’re listening for in these videos.
Yes. I've listened to Jon's shootouts, both lunchbox amps and full-sized, and the 6505MH have very much the sound of a Marshall SV20 or the SC20; i.e. lower gain amps but driven hard. And the MH is very close to the bigger 6505.
UPDATE: Here's a quick video for everyone who thinks all my amps sound the same: th-cam.com/video/bNhQpw9Jd1I/w-d-xo.html Notes: Thanks for watching this video! This is technically NOT a 'comparison' video but more of an amp 'showcase'. However, I definitely think you should be able to get a very good idea of how all the amps sound and compare against each other (with this particular guitar). So to everyone who wants a very scientific comparison: My advice: just sit back and listen to the amps and see which one speaks to you the most, don't worry too much about the differences as presented by the IR's. Keep in mind that how I set the controls also have a HUGE impact on the sound as well so those are some pretty drastic variables that also come into play. I prefer to hear the amps work in a full band setting with a cab sound that works well with the amps. Each of the amps tend to work best with different cab and speaker types so this is a way of showing what the amps can do in a setting that works well for the amps. It was a lot of fun and I enjoy listening to all the amps in all their glory! I hope you enjoy it as well! That Ibanez is a great guitar! Maybe those stock IBZ/Dimarzio pickups aren't perfect since they can get a bit too 'quacky' sometimes, but I thought it sounded pretty great with all the amps nonetheless. Keep in mind that different guitars or pickups can make these amps sound completely different. I guess that's why I'll have to do more of these videos in the future :) Cheers!
I thought it was very cool and I thought you were very clear to anyone who even remotely understands this stuff (terms like IRs etc.) Nice collection btw
all sound good, also the modelers. I think you have not the modelers record wth DI line out. because speaker record bring lots intermodulation distortions of the 1 way speaker. simular as doppler effect that high frequency move because the speaker membrane move due to low frequency, i read somewhere
I have to say those orange amps stuck out the most to my ear on my little bluetooth speaker as far as sounding different from the rest. Love all these amps though. Evh, peavey , mesa, orange , marshall , laney , shit I'd roll with any of em . Appreciate the vid. It's fun just watching somebody jam on all these bad boys. Lol
God damn I didn't expect that from the PRS. Top 5: PRS, Jim Root Terror and Dark terror tied for first Marshall DSL50 Ironball. ..I got some thinking to do before I head to the store to try some out.
Using Sennheiser $95 bluetooth headphones I noticed a slight difference in the ones I own. the EVH 5150 3 LBX and the Helix. The helix was more compressed initially after you listen to the sound for a bar or 2 your ears adjust and you forget...I still like the effort and execution. Depending on how modelers improve in the next 5 years I might buy another amp or another modeler.
Helix sounded better than AXE III ohhhh boooy... let the shelling commence!! I do love that PRS MK. One suggestion, do clips of the mono amp, not panned, multi tracked etc.. No amp on it's own ever sounds like post processed, other than some modelers that do Dual Amp Configs per ch.
first off - this is a quality video in that it is very well produced and showcases a lot of gear, which is nice for many viewers to learn My constructive criticism. the backing tracks and mix volume really make this not very helpful in comparing tones. It is mixed at a level that is right for a final or near final mix, but it really makes hearing any subtlety very difficult, even with decent speakers. And truth is with high gain and that kind of riff the differences will always be subtle.
I liked PRS and Mark IV the most. Considering the price for this PRS, it is the winner from all of these amps. Fractal on the other hand, is a different beast, as at this price you are getting so much more than just an amp...
Ok some people say it all sounds the same.. and surprise surprise, some amps sound very similar. Some have more mids ,others are a bit more bitty and some a bit farty . The engl was very different for a change. And the marshalls sounded completely different.
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Isolated part:
00:47 PRS MT15
01:54 EVH 5150 III 50W EL34
03:01 EVH 5150 III LBX
04:08 Peavey 6505
05:15 Peavey 6505 MH
06:22 Hughes & Kettner Grandmeister Deluxe 40
07:29 Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier Solo Head
08:36 Mesa Boogie Mini Rectifier Twenty-Five
09:43 Mesa Boogie Mark V Thirty-Five
10:50 ENGL Fireball 100
11:56 ENGL Ironball
13:03 Laney Ironheart 60
14:10 Laney IRT Studio
15:17 Marshall DSL50
16:24 Marshall JMP-1
17:31 Orange Tiny Terror
18:38 Orange Dual Terror
19:44 Orange Jim Root Terror
20:51 Orange OR15
21:58 Orange Rocker 15 Terror
23:05 Orange Brent Hinds Terror
24:12 Orange Dark Terror
25:17 Fractal Audio Axe Fx III (BONUS)
26:24 Line 6 Helix Native (BONUS)
27:29 Overloud TH-U Slate Edition (BONUS)
Very handy! :)
Dear lort! I just spent the last 20-25 minutes learning the spots and clicking to them before I saw this. xD
I'm going to add this to my description because it's way to handy!
@@SonicDriveStudio You forgot "@" before all the timers in your descr 😉
@@SonicDriveStudio Hi there, perhaps you could do another quick video where you edited out all these isolated parts together for easy listening comparison? Thanks a 1000 beforehand!
man that PRS sounds nice
yeah right, along with mesa solo head
Man, I've been in this business for years, but I swear - this PRS sounds the best in this clip.
@@franzmaurer7108 totally agree, mid forward, tight, defined, fuckin rips
@@ScottBrunelleMusic The only thing it lacks when compared to for example EVH 5150 III 50W EL34 is punch in the low end, it's very noticible when using good headphones. But in the mix, you can easily fill that space up with bass
I agree. A few sounded mushy, the PRS was crisp.
PRS pretty much nailed it. Heavy and highly defined sound. But let’s say that everyone of them with the JMP 1 pre would sound killer.
Peavey 6505mh is the deal. Can't beat it for the price. Sounded just as good as the high $$$ amps...
That Dual Rec just always slays. It just fills the spectrum so nicely and feels so open in the top end. You have a particularly nice sounding example too.
I would be perfect if you upload the separate wav files of each amp alone, plus the di if possible so we can analyze the difference in our own daw without TH-cam shitty compression. 10/10 flawless as always.
I second this.👍
“ThEy AlL sOuNd ThE sAmE!!”
-Everyone listening via phone speaker
Same on headphones big jbl. In song will be too same
Павел Сверчков I disagree. I use very affordable studio headphones. The MG900 to be exact. In between each brand of amp is a pretty big difference, but for example going from Rectifier to Rectifier or going from EVH to EVH of course there’s not going to be a huge difference
Павел Сверчков I disagree. I use very affordable studio headphones. The MG900 to be exact. In between each brand of amp is a pretty big difference, but for example going from Rectifier to Rectifier or going from EVH to EVH of course there’s not going to be a huge difference
I'm listening on my phone speakers just cause my headphones aren't on me at the moment - and I can hear clear differences. And I'm barely a guitar player haha.
Waste of time. Poor test parameters. There ain't a dollar's worth of difference:) Besides driven amps all sound the same to start with:)
This channel is awesome. I think this test would be even better to show people what all this sounds like with *exactly* the same IR for every amp. IR/real world speakers in cabs make a massive difference, but amps always decide the initial tonal balance and distortion character and feel varies a lot. Love it
I can't decide which one I want to buy. I want them all. They all sound so amazing and unique. Btw, that time code in the description was super helpful for hearing the clear differences between amps.
117,719 views since 31 Oct. That is amazing. Congrats.
Really love the tone on that dual rectifier, that sorta low end bulk, mid-high end rasp is great.
Your videos are the reason I bought my Orange Dark Terror.!! 🤩 it’s Powerful.
that PRS amp must be the most underrated amp on the planet
They sounded very similar. A few of them were almost identical.
Carlo Santin I agree, but my own rectoverb25 sound i find out from first second listening (I listening video without watching)
On that case run through various amps of your choice via Time Stamp in description. Every Amp sounds different. This video is a quiet informative.
@Sonic Drive Studio Great Job brother.
because he used a Fractal simulated cab, all sounds similar in digital emulated, this demo not is informative
Dude, Hughes & Kettner Grandmeister Deluxe 40 too much characteristic !!! Cool stuff ! \m/
This was a huge Englound's "Will it chug?" demo.
They all sounded the same to me.
In the room they certainly didn't sound the same, but this is no news. Everything sounds the same on TH-cam.
Still think all my amps sound the same? Check this out: th-cam.com/video/bNhQpw9Jd1I/w-d-xo.html
@@viniciusbertucci big sequenced comparisons don't legit for ears =)
For me too
Some amps sounded almost on the same way. But they have a little difference....
That Laney IRT is sweet. Song is stuck on repeat in my head, thanks!
Almost all of them sound great, but the ENGLs and Dark Terror really stand out~
as sounding terrible with tons of nasty around the 4k area? I agree.
To my ears (and JBL Control One's) the ENGLs had a lot more low end detail and clarity. the Dark terror was just extremely muddy in the low end and there was no articulation to it.
“They all sound almost the same” on the mix... but you can feel the difference mostly on your hands. When you’re actually playing. And, listening carefully you can get the difference
Mesa dual rec kills
Especially with a Mesa 4x12 cab
PRS: "Nice."
Marshalls: "Yep."
Orange OR15:" Holy @($% what am I hearing?" (answer: my next amp)
00:47 PRS MT15
01:54 EVH 5150 III 50W EL34
03:01 EVH 5150 III LBX
04:08 Peavey 6505
05:15 Peavey 6505 MH
06:22 Hughes & Kettner Grandmeister Deluxe 40
07:29 Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier Solo Head
08:36 Mesa Boogie Mini Rectifier Twenty-Five
09:43 Mesa Boogie Mark V Thirty-Five
10:50 ENGL Fireball 100
11:56 ENGL Ironball
13:03 Laney Ironheart 60
14:10 Laney IRT Studio
15:17 Marshall DSL50
16:24 Marshall JMP-1
17:31 Orange Tiny Terror
18:38 Orange Dual Terror
19:44 Orange Jim Root Terror
20:51 Orange OR15
21:58 Orange Rocker 15 Terror
23:05 Orange Brent Hinds Terror
24:12 Orange Dark Terror
25:17 Fractal Audio Axe Fx III (BONUS)
26:24 Line 6 Helix Native (BONUS)
27:29 Overloud TH-U Slate Edition (BONUS)
clear explanation of the main features of each amp, including current price, showing the settings, same riff, great video and sound, not to mention a delightful riff. Man !! You did a fantastic job!!! Thank you so much for sharing!! Now ...what is your favourite??? All of them seem to get close to your tone, I guess Mesa and Eng are the best.
Thanks for your kind words! My favorite... hmmm. In the case of this video I would say these were some of the best ones for me personally: JMP1, Dual Terror, Mark V 35 but I loved most of them in their own way tbh.
Mt15 sounds fckn awesome
very cool, and a great example of how pretty much every amp sounds the same :)
kind of what I was thinking.... I mean, they all sounded good, and I'm sure that they have way different ranges of what they can do and features, but they all essentially sounded the same in this.
Check this out: th-cam.com/video/bNhQpw9Jd1I/w-d-xo.html
@@SonicDriveStudio Great vid, man. Very noticable differences there of course, and you can really hear the different EQ profiles especially coming through. I'd love to see a video where EQ is really taken into account i.e 'The Marshall sounds bright and the Orange sounds dark, but by adjusting EQ, how similar can we make them sound?'. That would be fascinating to me. Anyway, keep up the good work.
I liked the Engl fireball 100 and Laney Iron heart 60 the best. A couple of the oranges really surprised me. Great video!
That sounds killer man, us asual. It's very kind of you sharing this comparison over here.
Everything sounded great IMO. None sounded disappointing to me. I've always been happy with the 6505+ head that I've had for so long, but you've gotta' love that Dual Rec tone. And I agree with some others regarding the PRS MT15 bringing it pretty nicely for a low-wattage amp, very focused. The nice cab sims definitely seem to play an important role in getting such good sounds.
Great video.... Surprisingly, I like the sound of the Laney Ironheart 60.. Thanks for posting
Here are the amps that impressed me the most: Paul Reed Smith MT15, Hughes and Kettner Grandmeister Deluxe 40, Mesa Boogie Mark V Thirty-Five, ENGL Ironball, and Laney Ironheart 60. If I had to choose a favorite, probably between the MT15 and Grandmeister Deluxe 40.
I'm on high end studio monitors and they all sound very close! The PRS MT15 sounded the best in this comparison to my ears. Get the most affordable one if you want this tone!
I too was amazed at home similar these all sounded too...and I'm usually a stickler for guitar tone. I'd argue that 90% of these were no different from each other than moving a mic an inch in any direction.
A few like the JMP1 stood out as being a bit thin and lifeless but I'd be happy with almost all those tones.
I'd love to hear a similar comparison with a way cleaner sound just on the edge of breakup. That's where the tones of various amps vary the most IMHO.
*at how
1. DSL50 15:17
2. Mesa Dual 7:29
3. Dark Terror 24:12
Through my Adam a5x monitors, most of them do sound similar in the mix! Most amps sounded very 5150/6505 based to me. Just the Mesa Boogies, Marshalls and Orange Rockerverb were unique (imo). I think, if you wanna buy an amp , go with that one that feels the best for you, while playing.
Hard to pick man they are all dialled in so tight! Excellent video man.
Getting a deftones vibe
I would love to hear all these amps through the same cabinet just to see how much the cabinet changes all these amps. Love the video great job!
That would be the most useful thing to do. Pure sound a driven chord or riff and a clean one....
Here my comparison 10 real Amps and same Real Cab: www.sinmix.pl/2017/04/21/10-amps-and-one-cab-comparison/ You can find also part II on my website - one Amp and 10 diff cabs.
I vote for use the same IR for all of the amps, otherwise it is not a fair comparison, but to show that all of these amps could achieve a heavy tone.
I can imagine how much time and effort went into this video. Great video! The riffs are chunky, the meat is spicy! 👍😋
It was a little ambitious haha, but I'm glad I got it done. :)
the riff is so good
I am blown away by the PRS o.O !!! I didn't expect it to be that chunky and throaty. I don't know how it would do with a singer in the mix but clearly it sounds gorgeous. I don't know if it's the result of double tracking but most amps give a lot of space in the middle which I believe is perfect for the mix.
that PRS sound very nice it reminds me Soilwork !!!
Nice video, i would have loved to see some hybrid amps in there such as the micro terror, Joyo zombie and Vox MV 50.
The PRS sounded the best to me
The dual rectifier sounded nice. The laneys did too. But what I love about these videos is being able to show the die hard Marshall fans how much better most amps are
This confirms how much I love my OR15, keeps up with the greats and I think even beats most of them. I'm slowly becoming an Orange fan, used to not like them. Great job on the demo!
This just made me want to get a 5150/6505 even more, sure the dual rectifier has more punch but it also costs hell of a lot more. Surprised to see a couple of the Orange-amps sounding that good also. Good video :)
The best thing about this video is that you made all of these amps sound amazing! I see a lot of review videos from popular websites and retailers that make the equipment sound like shit. Like if you just type in Orange Tiny Terror into youtube, you'll get dozens of videos that don't do that little giant justice. Dual Rec and EVH el34 take the win for me. Definetely subscribing! Thank you!
Thank you! Much appreciated!
Try with a Fender tube amp, would you ? Nice riff.
I liked jim root terror & prs mt15 the most, suited the riff the most imo
Man, I can watch your videos all day long...!!!
Great video man, Awesome riff, hard to pick an amp that sounds best but i like the PRS MT15, great demo !!!! well done
Damn those Laney's sounded great
Indeed! Underrated amps for sure!
Laney all day. Great amp!
I noticed that too.I especially liked the IRT studio. If you gave it a bit of the 5150 grit and transparency to create a bit more raw string sounds ut would be the best sounding ampmto my ears. I own a 5150 and boost it with an EQ pedal. I'm sorry to say, none of these amps get the sound I am getting currently. ENGL sounds nasally. Axe FX sound weak. PRS sounded great in the mid range vocally but lacked luster in the raw high and lows. Marshalls as usual are very vocal in the mid to high range but lack the grit and some transperency in the sound especially in the highs. Hugues and ketner was ok but nothing fancy. Orange is unique but almost a one trick pony like ENGL. It becomes a signature sound but genre specific which doesn't fit as well with these riffs.
I came here to decide what sponsor I will allow me to use their gear to represent them one day.... ;)
PRS sounded the best to my tastes! Thick and heavy, but also clear without sounding harsh or fizzy.
I'm using Helix native (because of your amazing videos) and its sounds awesome compared to real amps and other VSTs. Thank you very much, Helix was a discovery for me!
It sounds amazing next to the real amps!
@@SonicDriveStudio has helix gotten much better in the last couple of updates? Because when I had it I thought that vsts like th3 were much more amp like...
@@WholeLottaBulldog I agree. I use mostly helix native now but there is something special about th3 that makes it feel more real.
@@WholeLottaBulldog I don't know if they changed anything in the existing amps but the more recent additions sound killer! I also really dig a lot of the older ones though so perhaps they made some enhancements after all....
This is one of the best comparisons I've ever seen on TH-cam
Have you seen my recent one? One riff 41 amps? I prefer that one :)
@@SonicDriveStudio no but I'm on it!!!
Sweet! I hope you enjoy it!
What a project!! Nicely done!
Cool guitar parts as well!
Rock on!
Love your videos. Songs and production are amazing. This one is 💯
Wow both the Marshall's Sounds like a Hell ! out of all the others !!!! that's a very warm gain ..
Great vid. Great playing. I like all of the amps, but I’m digging the lunchbox amps right now. The Engl’s of course sound amazing. The Peavey 6505MH sounds great but I also like the Grandmeister 40 deluxe a lot. I think it’s a great amp that is underrated.
What is your opinion on the Ultra channel? Personally I have been using and enjoying the Lead channel more. Your video on the GrandMeister is awesome as well. Maybe you could do a video using the Grandmeister with different boost pedals and or other pedals.
The tiny and the dual terror is definitely my type of vide
If you think these all sound exactly the same, you need to reassess your means of listening to music. There are nuances between some of these amps and some GLARING differences as well. How often are people listening to an EP of raw, unprocessed guitar tones on their record player or streaming on their favorite streaming service? Never. The context of the mix is everything. What this does demonstrate is, is how you can get a great hard rock/metal tone out of a HUGE range of amps and at a big range in prices. Kudos to those who recognize the service this provides. Those who can't create, often hate. Thanks for the video Jon!
That was awesome! Thanks man!
You could make a danelectro honeytone sound great within a mix, most people don’t listen to unmixed amps on record, but they do every time they play them by themselves, I would also have liked if atleast the eq was set at noon on all the amplifiers, now it just shows how good these amps are at creating one preferred distorted tone
I AGREE that IN MOST part they do sound pretty much familiar....of course my ear does pick up different tones.....so Nick don't put down anyone's opinion ....another 58 people agreed with JM......have a great day Nick....
ESP/Mike I wasn’t “putting down,” anyone’s opinion. I just don’t agree with it and that is allowed. Also, I stated that those who said they sounded “exactly the same,” should reassess how they listen.
@@NickHillMakesMusic it's all cool Nick...we all listen to music in different ways...I do know what you are saying though....have a super day
Thx for includig the JMP-1. Genius move.
Thanks! I got that one a short while ago for only 200 euros!! A buy that I don't regret! ;)
@@SonicDriveStudio Yeah, me too, it was 300 EUR, changed tubes, and run it through an EL84 20/20. Just like old times.
So many amps! Twas a good watch, sir...
the hughes&kettner sounded the most different to me, a little bit fuzzy almost.
marshall also pretty recognisable because of that typical marshall high end
Jon, thanks again for the tremendous work and all the effort you put into making this video!
Thanks for the kind words and encouragement!
Peavey killed it. Sounds so amazing
Great video. And just proves that with a certain set of pickups, IR and mix you're gonna get more or less the same between different amps. If anything this reminds me why I *don't* need an Axe FX or Dual Rec..
in this style and settings displayed, the ones that I would pick for making records would be prs, evh's both, mesa mini & mk v, fireball, ironheart. If I had to narrow down to three: prs, fireball & ironheart. most precise sounds and distinctive voices to my taste. great video!
6505 cool, because i like fresh
but never forget the root
the right and left finger
foundation of time, silence and great tone.
Total surprise to me that I like the 5150 III LBX far and away the most. It's so perfectly suited for the studio sound - fits in a mix but still sounds gigantic. Time to pick one up I guess?
great tones from all of them. But for me Mini rectifier sounded best. EVH 5150 III sounded good aswell. Thanks for this awesome comparison
Everyone saying thy sound the same should probably listen with headphones. The Engl’s and that mark v 35 sound fucking fantastic.
Marshall DSL sounded the best overall to me, but that's just me. There are so many great sounding amplifiers in this, fantastic job!
This was really neat. The very beginning of the riff (first 12 seconds or so) gave me a very Deftones vibe which I love. Very cool riff and excellent amp collection!
Thank you! I can't deny that Deftones has been a huge inspiration for me.
@@SonicDriveStudio What is your tuning here, drop C?
@@tarasbulba4512 drop C#
@@SonicDriveStudio Thank you. Very memorable riffs.
I have the PRS MT15 solid work horse! I have it match to a 2×12 half cab equipped with ear candies, amazingly versatile!
Thanks for taking the time to make this video! Very helpful for prospective amp buyers. I was thinking if getting an Invective 120 but now I'm thinking the PRS MT15 sounds damn good for way less.
It sounds really good yes!
Mark from Periphery, ironically, plays the MT15 when he doesn't have his fractal axe. The Invective is very versatile for a Peavey, and there is also a 15watt Invective now. I love Periphery, and both amps you state, but unless you play live and need 120watts, I'd go with the MT15. But take a look at the smaller Invective too. I bet the 15w Invective paired with the MT15 would be a Great stereo rig.
I think these videos really speak more to the people who have experienced these amps themselves. The people are saying they sound the same but I’m half way through and I have played every amp so far. They all sound like I remember them. The first three sounded drastically different. I can hear the small and big power sections. I can hear those crazy transients on the 5153. I can hear that rumbly bass on the rectifiers and the kids on the Mark 5. But I only hear those things because I’ve had those amps and felt that myself. You gotta know what you’re listening for in these videos.
I was really surprised by the mini amps and the Engls, laneys, and Hughes and kettners I learned something about.
there's something about the 6505 that gets me every time
Was thinking the same. Peavey always these shootouts with me.
Yes. I've listened to Jon's shootouts, both lunchbox amps and full-sized, and the 6505MH have very much the sound of a Marshall SV20 or the SC20; i.e. lower gain amps but driven hard. And the MH is very close to the bigger 6505.
What a nice shootout! Holy Moly! Big thumbs up!!!
UPDATE: Here's a quick video for everyone who thinks all my amps sound the same: th-cam.com/video/bNhQpw9Jd1I/w-d-xo.html
Notes: Thanks for watching this video! This is technically NOT a 'comparison' video but more of an amp 'showcase'. However, I definitely think you should be able to get a very good idea of how all the amps sound and compare against each other (with this particular guitar). So to everyone who wants a very scientific comparison: My advice: just sit back and listen to the amps and see which one speaks to you the most, don't worry too much about the differences as presented by the IR's. Keep in mind that how I set the controls also have a HUGE impact on the sound as well so those are some pretty drastic variables that also come into play.
I prefer to hear the amps work in a full band setting with a cab sound that works well with the amps. Each of the amps tend to work best with different cab and speaker types so this is a way of showing what the amps can do in a setting that works well for the amps. It was a lot of fun and I enjoy listening to all the amps in all their glory! I hope you enjoy it as well! That Ibanez is a great guitar! Maybe those stock IBZ/Dimarzio pickups aren't perfect since they can get a bit too 'quacky' sometimes, but I thought it sounded pretty great with all the amps nonetheless. Keep in mind that different guitars or pickups can make these amps sound completely different. I guess that's why I'll have to do more of these videos in the future :) Cheers!
Will be interesting to hear Nazgul\Sentient with them. :) Thank you for you job!
I thought it was very cool and I thought you were very clear to anyone who even remotely understands this stuff (terms like IRs etc.) Nice collection btw
@@bykeman69 cheers! It's impossible to please everyone. I guess I just choose to make my videos in a way that I can enjoy.
all sound good, also the modelers. I think you have not the modelers record wth DI line out. because speaker record bring lots intermodulation distortions of the 1 way speaker. simular as doppler effect that high frequency move because the speaker membrane move due to low frequency, i read somewhere
Would love to know what's your favorite in this comparison Sonic Drive
I have to say those orange amps stuck out the most to my ear on my little bluetooth speaker as far as sounding different from the rest. Love all these amps though. Evh, peavey , mesa, orange , marshall , laney , shit I'd roll with any of em . Appreciate the vid. It's fun just watching somebody jam on all these bad boys. Lol
Oh and getcha a randall satan or randall thrasher or diavlo up in the party man.
God damn I didn't expect that from the PRS.
Top 5: PRS, Jim Root Terror and Dark terror tied for first
Marshall DSL50
Ironball.
..I got some thinking to do before I head to the store to try some out.
Really dig the riffs!
Would love a lesson on this riff! It’s sick
Using Sennheiser $95 bluetooth headphones I noticed a slight difference in the ones I own. the EVH 5150 3 LBX and the Helix. The helix was more compressed initially after you listen to the sound for a bar or 2 your ears adjust and you forget...I still like the effort and execution. Depending on how modelers improve in the next 5 years I might buy another amp or another modeler.
Helix sounded better than AXE III ohhhh boooy... let the shelling commence!!
I do love that PRS MK.
One suggestion, do clips of the mono amp, not panned, multi tracked etc.. No amp on it's own ever sounds like post processed, other than some modelers that do Dual Amp Configs per ch.
first off - this is a quality video in that it is very well produced and showcases a lot of gear, which is nice for many viewers to learn
My constructive criticism. the backing tracks and mix volume really make this not very helpful in comparing tones. It is mixed at a level that is right for a final or near final mix, but it really makes hearing any subtlety very difficult, even with decent speakers. And truth is with high gain and that kind of riff the differences will always be subtle.
19:44 Orange Jim Root Terror sounds great! cheaper than others!
yeah i thought so too i also liked the laney
EVH, DSL, Jmp-1 and Engl Ironball are my favorites
I liked PRS crisp sound. As second Mesa Boogie Mark II.
Superbly useful video thanks and well played.
I love them all.. but i am a peavey and marshall fan... that engl was really great..
The Riff has thump, power chords, open chords, and a little bit of lead. Would have loved more lead notes. Killer job nonetheless 9/10
I liked PRS and Mark IV the most. Considering the price for this PRS, it is the winner from all of these amps. Fractal on the other hand, is a different beast, as at this price you are getting so much more than just an amp...
Just became your 10,000th sub. Cheers for the vid man 🤘
Woah, that's awesome! Thank you so much! :)
Badonk amp, sounds nice AF !!
I really liked the PRS which was a pleasant surprise. Other than that JCM2000 sounded great and I liked several of the Orange amps.
Ok some people say it all sounds the same.. and surprise surprise, some amps sound very similar. Some have more mids ,others are a bit more bitty and some a bit farty .
The engl was very different for a change. And the marshalls sounded completely different.