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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 พ.ค. 2024
- In celebration of Kirby's 30th Anniversary, today on the Beta Files, we'll take a look at the game that marked the return of Nintendo's pink puffball to the home console scene with Kirby's Return to Dreamland on the Nintendo Wii!
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Special Thanks to Kirby Facts (a.k.a Meeper12346) for the help in locating the sources of concept art seen in the video as well as the E3 2005 showfloor footage that I was previously unaware of. Here's a link to his Twitter: / meeper12346
And special thanks to my Kirby-fanatic friend Jay who joined me for the multiplayer footage you can spot in the background!
Other Unused Content: tcrf.net/Kirby%27s_Return_to_...
kirby.fandom.com/wiki/Kirby%2...
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Web Articles and Printed Sources:
Nintendo Power Magazines Issues 194, 200, 209 & 210
iwataasks.nintendo.com/interv...
web.archive.org/web/201703121...
web.archive.org/web/200506040...
www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/201...
www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/even...
www.ign.com/articles/2008/12/...
gigi9714.wordpress.com/2022/0...
www.ign.com/articles/2011/08/...
/ kirby_20th_anniversary...
nulogs.seesaa.net/article/2334...
www.hallab.co.jp/eng/company/...
Kirby Art and Style Collection Artbook
Video Sources:
• Kirby Adventure GCN Ga...
• Japanese Scooter game ...
• Kirby Mass Attack - Al...
• Kirby's Return to Drea...
• Kirby Wii Gameplay Foo...
• Kirby Wii - E3 2011: O...
• Kirby Wii E3 2011 Game...
• Kirby's Dream Land (Su...
• Kirby & The Amazing Mi...
• Kirby Super Star Ultra...
• Kirby Squeak Squad: Pa...
• Wii - Kirby Wii E3 Tra...
• Kirby's Return to Drea...
• E3 2005 - Nintendo
Kirby Right Back At Ya! Episode 96
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All pictures, music, sound effects and video footage do not belong to me. They belong to their original creators and, under the fair use doctrine, I am using them for educational purposes.
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Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
01:23 Early Gamecube Developmental History
04:26 Kirby GC Disappearance
04:56 Return to Dreamland's Developmental History
12:30 Kirby Wii Reveal at Financial Meeting/E3
13:35 Kirby GC Trailer Analysis
19:52 E3 2005 Showfloor Clip Analysis
21:40 20th Anniversary Encyclopedia Concept Art
24:28 Financial Relations Meeting Trailer Analysis
28:20 E3 2011 Trailer Analysis
32:37 E3 2011 Showfloor Analysis
35:01 Kirby Art & Style Collection book Concept Art
37:23 Unused files: Cutscenes
39:36 Unused Models
40:53 Unused Audio Files
48:40 Unused Textures
51:31 Unused Animations
57:21 Cut Super Abilities and Unused Ability Star
58:57 Outro
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17:53 It's pretty amazing that the leitmotif of this music appears in Forgotten Land.
Really? I don't think I actually caught that when playing Forgotten Land lol
@@NiNFan237 It’s changed a bit. It’s in the Colosseum themes (Ultimate Battle and Decisive Battle)
@@cjrecio5702 Ah that's why I never noticed it. Blazed through the game so fast that I didn't play Colosseum until after this video was made and by that time, I was trying to forget about comparisons after the hours of tedious editing lol
@@NiNFan237 juegos
when you comment after 9/14/22
great comprehensive vid
This video is so good it’s upsetting you don’t have more subs and views. This is one of your best yet!! I’ve been subbed since the SM64 and Luigi’s Mansion vids and I gotta say, you are something special, my dude. Good luck and well wishes!
I'm just glad that someone from "Ye olde days" is still around watching my content. Thx for watching for all these years dood and I hope to continue to meet ur and everyone's expectations!
The development history of this game was always intresting to me. Thanks.
Fun fact about that super cutter ability you showed that was cut from the game. Someone actually made a hard mode hack of this game and reimplemented the ability back into the game as a super ability, where you throw similar cutters like the sir kibble bosses.
I did come across several videos showcasing that hack actually. Ngl, it is pretty cool but I suppose they could've only reimplemented due to how much stuff of the scrapped Super Cutter was leftover. At least half of the work was mostly done for them lol
Really wish the GameCube game didn’t get cancelled. If they keep showing us these new updates maybe it’ll get a Switch rerelease?
Not sure if ur referring ta actual RtDL or the Gamecube game but there already is a RtDL rerelease happening very soon. In terms of the Gamecube game, unfortunately its most likely either in an incomplete/nonplayable state or completely lost to time. Though, I think Forgotten Land does a good impression of emulating what it probably felt like lol
That part about Return to Dreamland being developed first as a single-player game, with multiplayer later tacked on, is a really neat bit of history, because you can actually _see_ the difference when directly comparing RtDL's level design to the level design of _Star Allies._ _Star Allies_ focused on the 4-player experience first and foremost (and could be argued to have a worse single-player experience because of it), while RtDL tries to make the multiplayer unintrusive, and features levels meant for _any_ number of players. These two games are shockingly different!
Crazy that after all these years.... this 10:00 is finally happening in the deluxe version.
I'm pretty sure you can do this in the base Wii game....though I imagine many people didn't want to play as another Kirby (myself included) lol
You sure? i could have sworn me and my siblings would argue over who gets to be kirby cause we wanted to use copy abilities. Maybe I'm just remembering wrong though cause i haven't played the game in more than 6 years.
That and we just liked using the super abilities
@@starpower1884 I'm very sure. In fact, proof is in this same video. Check 15:39 . The footage is being recorded off of an actual Wii with an original copy of RtDL. Two Kirby's playing at the same time. You can play as multiple Kirby's lol
@@NiNFan237 Ah i see, then im just stupid, i thought you only could play as the friends like in star allies but guess i was wrong.
I'm so glad you made this video, it's really good! I was so caught off gaurd when this came in my recommended.
Please talk about the hitboxes. Kirby Adventure and by extension Kirby Return to Dreamland run on the same engine Melee and Airride ran on. There may be more remnants of some stuff in there, if not more info that could help us learn more about the development.
The hitboxes could've been included in the video but, the TCRF wiki didn't provide me anything to work with. They only give the Action Replay code to view the hitboxes which, I guess is something but its not enough information that makes it interesting to be worth noting in this already massively long video. I did not know that KRtD, Melee and Air Ride ran on the same engine but it would make some sense as all 3 started development around the same timeframe so thanks for telling me that. As for looking into the hitbox files for KRtD for more unused stuff...I will honestly admit that I'm no data miner/hacker. I have to rely on others who post and document things while I compile it and organize it into a (usually) compacted video. So while I do have the ability to look at actual game data with the tools available online, I wouldn't know what I would be looking at whether that's things like hitboxes, frame data, actual coding, etc. I would prefer someone who knows what they're talking about to give detailed information rather than myself since...well, they obviously know more than me.
This was amazingly edited and put together! I can’t believe this only has 840 views! This is an amazing video, keep up the good work and you’ll be up there in no time. This is the kind of content we like to see! :D
I...might've gone a bit overboard with this video in terms of length but I guess that's what you get when you're covering at least 11 years of developmental history, which is pretty much the reason why I forego-ed an end card segment in this video because its already massively long as it is.
Anyways, Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/NinFan237 And, if you aren't already, subscribe, like and share my content if you....well...like it! If you also feel generous to help my channel, buying a cup of coffee would always be appreciated! www.buymeacoffee.com/ninfan237 Reminder that all content will always be free!
If you found that I missed something important or I made a mistake on something then, feel free to comment down below! Given the length of the video, I'm already expecting to have missed something somewhere to be honest...
Special thanks to Meeper12346 on Twitter for helping me locate the source of the Magalor concept art as well as special thanks to my friend Jay who joined me for some multiplayer footage you see in the background!
I love long-form videos - never feel bad about going into depth like this. This is definitely your best video yet, so if future stuff is like this, I'll be very happy.
49:20 MY BELOVED WALF
57:27 Let's hope the scrapped copy ability makes its way in the remake.
Fantastic video!! Glad I could help :)
The jumping and walking animations for enemies where probably going to be used for the gck game buddies
This is probably the best timeline and analysis for return to dreamland! Great work!
Now we need to see if we can dig into the files of return to dreamland Deluxe and see what it has in its files
Fun fact:
A lot of songs from RtDL, were originally from Kirby GCN because of the filenames, "st" means "stage", and they're not just Road to Victory and Exploring the Cave, i don't know some of the filenames, so please let me know if you know the filenames that i don't know, this comment will be edited. Some of these songs are:
-Grand Doomer theme "st_ROBO1" [possibly used for the Robo Dedede boss fight]
-Road to Victory "st_orch"
-Exploring the Cave (idk the filename so far)
-Fly! Kirby of the Stars! "st_halberd" [Used for the Halberd]
-Slippery Steps "st_comic"
-Woods Wayfarer "st_mori" ("mori" means "woods" so in eng, the filename is "st_woods") [possibly used in mountain stages in GCN]
-The Adventure Begins DX (from Triple Deluxe) "gck_plants" "st_plants" [possibly used in the first stage] (gck most probably means GameCube Kirby)
-Peaceful Place (unused ver/beta ver) (idk the filename yet)
-Sky Tower (unused ver/beta ver) "st_castle01" [possibly used for the castle area with pink trees from the trailer]
-Special Reward Music "st_normal"
-Ship Part Get! (Unused ver 1) "fanfare_gck"
-Blazing! Boss battle "b_dedede" (b means boss) [possibly for a Dedede boss fight with his jet hammer]
-Mid-boss battle in Another World (idk the filename yet)
I made a playlist if you wanna know whitch songs were used in GCN that made it into the final game:
th-cam.com/play/PL095xsmUQghMETq_0pr5AnC4UaYcGNuR1.html
This is so well presented and researched!! Love it!!
Fun Fact : in 18:12 stone Kirby not only used his final hat design but he was also meant to be colored in brown
Even other copy abilities had Kirby with other colours, such as the Plasma ability, the water ability and maybe the ice ability that whould've kirby made light blue, i say "maybe" because we don't have any images or clips that show the ice ability.
@@Da_Trololz that's only in Kirby right back at ya and maybe super star (Both Snes & ultra)
@@maricthehedgehog they are in the both Super star and ultra.
just finished the video, was very nice, so underrated
hr-d3 is in kirby's return to dreamland in the extra mode
Yes HR-D3 is in Return to Dreamland but, the Dedede color scheme seen in the Kirby GCN trailers can only be found in said trailer and in Kirby Mass Attack as a cameo boss in the Kirby Quest mini-game. The color scheme was what I noted to be the difference, not the robot itself.
19:00 dum dum dum dum dum dum vs dum dum dum dum dum dum rap battle.
Amazing vid!
Kirby….
how does this only have 570 views
Lore of Beta Files: Kirby's Return To Dreamland momentum 100
🤓Uhm ACKtually~🤓👆
Its aCKtually kirby and the forgotten land 🤓 not kirby and the forbidden land🤓🤓🤓