The Burial, Exhumation, Reburial and Tomb of King Henry VI

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    This is the second half of a two-part series on the burial places of two kings, who were rivals in life, but who share a united burial place in death - St George's Chapel in Windsor Castle. They are King Edward IV and King Henry VI. In this second part, I discuss the circumstances of the original burial of Henry VI at Chertsey, his exhumation thirteen years later and the opening of his vault in 1910, and what his human remains have to tell us about his burial. I go on to discuss the saintly cult that develops focused on him, pilgrimage to his tomb and attempts to exhume him once again in the 1490s and plans for his monument.
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  • @carlahmed5737
    @carlahmed5737 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Every video expands my vocabulary level significantly!

    • @kimma508
      @kimma508 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I know right!

  • @sweptashore
    @sweptashore ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You can be a king, wield incredible power, and commission plans for an elaborate memorial to yourself. Then death, the great equalizer, takes you and your power. And that elaborate memorial falls by the wayside because life goes on. As it does.

  • @stepps511
    @stepps511 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    And now we know the rest (of what is known) of the story. Thank you so very much for this!

  • @nadiabrook7871
    @nadiabrook7871 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Another VERY INTERESTING video!! I never knew that Henry vi was considered a saint by some!! I wonder what was so saintly about him?! XXXX 💚👍💖

  • @carmenfoster6912
    @carmenfoster6912 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Amazing professor everything down to the minutes details..satisfaction guaranteed for us Tudor followers

  • @dees3179
    @dees3179 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I enjoy the suggestion of keeping an arm back in case it can be turned into a relic. Are there other examples where this is suspected?

  • @cathystillman-lowe972
    @cathystillman-lowe972 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I wondered what your view was of opening vaults and coffins, to examine the contents? Do antiquarians still clamour for such opportunities, or would these investigations be deemed unethical or simply distasteful today? * Separately, I do find the theme of establishing one's status in death fascinating. The degrees of prestige inherent in different positions in the church, under the church and outside the church; and the moving about of memorials after death. * I find your videos continually engaging and am glad that the Coronation is a fair way off, so plenty of time is available to discuss every aspect of it!

  • @trussell9899
    @trussell9899 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi there! From Teresa in the Smokey Mountains of East Tennessee, USA 😊

  • @annettewillis2797
    @annettewillis2797 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Really interesting Allan! Antiquarians have a long history of fascination, and so it continues today. And, as others have said, despite the pomp and ceremony of Kings and Queens, a pile of bones, grave wax and liquefaction results, regardless. Perhaps this explains Prince Phillip's interest in better conditions for preservation that have gone into the King George VI Memorial Chapel.

  • @garycannon1247
    @garycannon1247 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video once again👍

  • @hughcapetien
    @hughcapetien ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Would be interested in opening some of these coffins and subject the contents to a thorough autopsy to determine whether the monarch died naturally or something more sinister.

    • @juanelorriaga2840
      @juanelorriaga2840 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed get a sample and see all the interesting stuff see if they were predisposed of certain illnesses and cause of death etc

  • @amymahers2957
    @amymahers2957 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Enjoyed these two videos very much. Thank you for your hard work.

  • @EllenCFarmGirl
    @EllenCFarmGirl ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent as always❤

  • @marthavanbeek-putters
    @marthavanbeek-putters ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you again for this very good video. Martha

  • @stephenburns3678
    @stephenburns3678 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you , sir.

  • @pete2347
    @pete2347 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for sharing your knowledge and research in these two videos. Very interesting!

  • @blorac9869
    @blorac9869 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Enjoyed, TYVM!

  • @liztaylor5714
    @liztaylor5714 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Good afternoon from Malta 😀

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello Liz, I hope you are having a good day.

  • @carmenfoster6912
    @carmenfoster6912 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Unbelievable information

  • @dixiefallas7799
    @dixiefallas7799 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks great research.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching.

  • @4sstg
    @4sstg ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating.

  • @michaelbedinger4121
    @michaelbedinger4121 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another interesting video, thank you.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks, glad you enjoyed it.

    • @michaelbedinger4121
      @michaelbedinger4121 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@allanbarton You are welcome, I most definitely did!

  • @orlando1a1
    @orlando1a1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi Allan, thank you for another excellent and fascinating video. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but wanted to add, that I was told that Henry VII petitioned several popes in the hope of having Henry VI canonized, and apparently, Henry let it drop when too much money was asked for the request?

  • @ruthannemackinnon588
    @ruthannemackinnon588 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Enjoying your channel so much, would enjoy a video about the tomb of Edward the confessor, wasn't it opened by Henry II? Also the tombs of HenryII & his wife & son Richard.

  • @kimma508
    @kimma508 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Greetings from Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, USA!

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Greetings! Thanks for watching!

  • @jilltagmorris
    @jilltagmorris ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi Allan! South Carolina USA here!

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Jill, I hope you are well.

    • @rsc9520
      @rsc9520 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hi Allan! Greetings from New Jersey USA. Congratulations on your GREAT channel. I really like the level of detail in your videos. You are a wonderful narrator.

  • @jojohughes1081
    @jojohughes1081 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fascinating stuff, as always. I was reading about the c19 discovery of a bishop beneath a cathedral floor, contemporary with Henry VI, who, as well as being dressed in episcopal robes, gloves etc, and holding his crozier, was found to have his feet resting on what subsequent analysis proved to be sprigs of heather. Have you ever heard of this before? It's not known for its aromatic qualities so I wondered if it was symbolic in some way.

  • @fairislecat6413
    @fairislecat6413 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello from London, UK.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hello, I hope you are well.

  • @JamesWylde
    @JamesWylde ปีที่แล้ว

    If you think we should watch part I first, please put a link in the description

  • @Miniver765
    @Miniver765 ปีที่แล้ว

    Allan, were burial vaults constructed underneath these churches at the time they were built, or were floor tiles pulled up and vaults excavated as needs arose? I've always been curious about that. Thanks.

  • @logansportmyers
    @logansportmyers ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I believe the photo of his present day tomb is mine. You may use it. I enjoy your work.

  • @tomsherwood4650
    @tomsherwood4650 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Digging up and putting back Kings and Queens is a strange thing to do. Did they not do it right the first time?

  • @peteroconnell1161
    @peteroconnell1161 ปีที่แล้ว

    He was a good a Saint as a King

  • @JohnDoe-px4ko
    @JohnDoe-px4ko ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍👍👍👍

  • @Mattipedersen
    @Mattipedersen ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:25 - Of course Richard didn't intend to be interred in Windsor, as he clearly had a thing for priory parking lot burials ;)

    • @happycommuter3523
      @happycommuter3523 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, give him credit for originality. 😀 Also he now has Leicester Cathedral all to himself, am I right?

  • @laurabrowning7973
    @laurabrowning7973 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It could also be seen as a sign of respect that Richard lll had Henry Vl reburied in a more suitable place befitting his status as a former king.

  • @monicacall7532
    @monicacall7532 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another fascinating video. I have some questions for you, Allan, if you don’t mind my asking them.
    1. Were there any other kings (from 1066 onward) besides Henry VI and Richard III buried somewhere else besides Westminster Abbey and St. George’s Chapel at Windsor? If so, where were they buried? I know that John of Gaunt and his first wife Blanche of Lancaster were buried in the old St. Paul’s that burned down in the Great Fire of 1666. Were other princes or princesses and their spouses and family members buried there? How did King Charles II and Christopher Wren handle that situation when St. Paul’s was rebuilt? Did they do anything at all? Are there memorial plaques at the church commemorating those who’d been buried there previous to the fire?
    2. I know that Henry V reinterred Richard II’s body in Westminster to show contrition for what his father had done in usurping an anointed king. Besides his own son Henry VI and Richard III were there any other kings or queens who were disinterred from their original burial places and brought to rest elsewhere at Westminster or St. George’s or another place? Were any royal burials in English Cathedrals or abbeys/monasteries destroyed during either Henry VIII (from 1533 until his death in 1547) or Edward VI’s reigns?
    3. Were you a vicar when Richard III’s body was exhumed from the parking lot in Leicester in 2012? Did you participate in any way in the various activities leading up to the reburial service at Leicester Cathedral in 2015? I watched it and found it incredibly moving.
    English history has always fascinated me as has Medieval history. Your videos fill in or add to my knowledge of this remarkable place and time. 😊Many thanks.

    • @neilbuckley1613
      @neilbuckley1613 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      William I [Conqueror]- Abbey aux Hommes, Caen, Normandy
      William II {Rufus}- Winchester Cathedral
      Henry I- Reading Abbey, Berkshire
      Stephen- Faversham Abbey, Kent
      Henry II and Richard I [Lionheart]- Fontrevault Abbey, Anjou
      John= Worcester Catheedral
      Edward II- Gloucester Cathedral
      Henry IV-Canterbury Cathedral
      James II -English Benedictines, Paris
      George I ,- Herrenhausen Palace, Hanover
      Victoria -Royal Mausoleum, Frogmore
      The other royals buried in Old St Pauls were Ethelred [thr Unready] King of the English and Sebba King of the East Saxons aka Essex.

    • @monicacall7532
      @monicacall7532 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Neil, I can’t thank you enough for this info. I totally forgot about Victoria, Henry II, Eleanor of Aquitaine and Richard I but didn’t know about the others. It’s lovely to find someone else who enjoys English history as much as I do. BTW Are you a Brit? I’m an American who has roughly 50% English ancestry. Cheers.

    • @neilbuckley1613
      @neilbuckley1613 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@monicacall7532 Hello Monica, I am English, though my maternal grandmother was a Welsh lady who spoke Welsh as her first language. I think it was visits to North Wales to meet relatives that aroused my interest in history as there were lots of medieval castles and pre - historic monuments there. The part of England I was brought up in is very good for those interested in the Industrial Revolution but very thin on older remains as it was sparsely populated before the 17th century. Pleasure to be of help.

  • @annm.7176
    @annm.7176 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The bad things about these lead line coffins you just rot inside because there's nowhere that can get in.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It is horrible, same with those steel caskets and concrete vaults, you swim around in your own juices. Nasty.

  • @martinkirby3100
    @martinkirby3100 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Henryv1 is buried in Chertsey Abbey not Windsor I've seen his grave myself

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Err, no - that’s his former grave site - the video, is all about moving his body from Chertsey to Windsor in the 15th century.

  • @terrencemunro
    @terrencemunro ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wouldn’t you agree that a discussion regarding the DNA testing of all the known monarch’s tombs/remains should be done due to the break through in, face recognition, DNA matches through Y chromosome checks or even any futuristic realisations?

  • @FidesAla
    @FidesAla ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Historians; "We will never know the true circumstances of Henry's death"
    Requiem of the Rose King: "Well, first, they were *finally* kissing, but then both their mental issues took over and--"

  • @dolldoll2914
    @dolldoll2914 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    👩‍💻I would like to know~~
    1. Who was Henry VI wife?
    2. Who was Henry VI son?
    3. What happened to them after Edward IV siezed power?
    I know Henry VI had a wife and child. I just don't know much about them. You have so much more detail than others, which is so interesting.
    Thank you.🙋‍♀️🇺🇲🇬🇧

    • @celiaparker6166
      @celiaparker6166 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Henry married Margaret of Anjou, niece of the French king in 1445. They had one son Edward who escaped abroad with his mother in 1461 and returned in 1471 only to be killed at the battle of Tewkesbury that year. That sealed the fate of his father who had been in the Tower for some years and kept alive because there was no point killing him while his heir was alive. Margaret remained in England for some years in honorable captivity before returning to France where she died in 1482.

    • @dolldoll2914
      @dolldoll2914 ปีที่แล้ว

      👩🏻‍💻Thank you. I just didn't know what happened to the boy and or why he never came to claim the throne. Thanks again.🙋‍♀️🇺🇲🇬🇧

  • @finlayfraser9952
    @finlayfraser9952 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fascinating, but labyrinthine!

  • @johnwhitehead4446
    @johnwhitehead4446 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Surely the figures kneeling around Henry VI in the Bodleian woodcut have been identified as those who had benefited from his intercession - often the poor and despairing such as the Hammersmith man saved from strangulation on the gallows - and not other saints who would not be praying to a fellow saint?

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think in hindsight you are probably right - I don't think anyone has done any serious work on this woodcut (except Hodnett in his book on English woodcuts) nor the cult in general. It is worth exploring further.

    • @johnwhitehead4446
      @johnwhitehead4446 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for this reply.
      I have seen a discussion of this woodcut identifying the votaries. I am not sure where that was but I will try to hunt it out.
      I like your videos which are excellent and have signed up to The Antiquary.

    • @johnwhitehead4446
      @johnwhitehead4446 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is an article about his cult by Leigh Ann Craig in Albion from 2003

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@johnwhitehead4446 thanks John, I would be most interested to read that if you can find it. It is most fascinating image.

    • @johnwhitehead4446
      @johnwhitehead4446 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@allanbarton It is on JSTOR

  • @jamellfoster6029
    @jamellfoster6029 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well Henry VI was the great uncle of Henry VIII so its only fair he petition for canonization.

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Indeed, it’s also a good way of controlling the narrative.

  • @laurelshelhamer8958
    @laurelshelhamer8958 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not Henry VII.

  • @martinkirby3100
    @martinkirby3100 ปีที่แล้ว

    Richard 111 did not kill his nephews he was framed by Henry 7 who had spies in Richards inner circle and Henry got them to do it

    • @allanbarton
      @allanbarton  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It is interesting to speculate on these things, but there is of course absolutely no evidence either way.

  • @1stAmbientGrl
    @1stAmbientGrl ปีที่แล้ว +7

    His foot appears to have a stigmata. If he did have a miraculous stigmata, that would explain the bleeding from the corpse.

    • @chrisoc1959
      @chrisoc1959 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      More likely stab wounds that caused the bleeding

    • @andreamassari9099
      @andreamassari9099 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't think that was a photo of the actual foot of King Henry VI.

    • @elaineswanson3678
      @elaineswanson3678 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Corpses don’t bleed. . .normally.

    • @nicoleroth3127
      @nicoleroth3127 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@andreamassari9099 It definitely wasn't, considering that in 1910, when the exhumation took place, there wasn't coloured photograpy available yet and the picture doesn't fit the description of what was found in Henry VI' ossuary at all either.

    • @nicoleroth3127
      @nicoleroth3127 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@elaineswanson3678 Well, gravity can cause blood to drip through a wound even though there's no active bleeding, since the heart doesn't beat anymore. In this case, it would have had to have been a wound at the back, which gives some credit to the theory that Henry VI was murdered. But, there could be other explanations.
      For example: He's said to have been physically ill by that point, and in a weakened state, so there's a possibility that he had been cupped shortly before his death, which means, he would've had several small incisions all over his back, again making it possible for blood to seep out as it collected at his back, forming the typical death spots. Since he would have been washed in preparation for his burial, the healing incisions might have opened up again, at first going unnoticed, but eventually, as said, seeping through.
      That said, I don't know what to believe, and since none of us was there, it's all just speculation what Henry VI's cause of death really was. Murder seems the most likely, seeing the convenient timing of his death (though, personally I don't think that if so, it was done by Richard), but some doubt remains.

  • @b-a4798
    @b-a4798 ปีที่แล้ว

    It gets confusing !

  • @johnkeane1419
    @johnkeane1419 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A 15 quid burial, lol

  • @peterkrauss6962
    @peterkrauss6962 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    CERTAINLY his arm was kept as a relic. It's a totally Catholic practice.