@@1upJeCK I did... It's silly... Your food and medicine and tech come from China. You're worried about your data NOW? How come you weren't worried when orange warned you? Before tic tok even blew up.
I'm no fan of tik Tok nor giving this kind of power to the government but I also recognize that tik Tok is snooping on a whole different level. I won't use it on my computer because I work in and it compromises everything.
You are one of the few 'who gets it.' Thankfully there are enough of us software and web / app developers/ server freaks who will fight till the very last to keep the internet free and decentralized.
Gen Z gets 80% of it's news from TikTok..,......oh can't imagine how I can't be used to influence elections, start negative social change, and etc. Oh what.........lowest record of birthrate and marriages in 150 years since recorded history. People are stupid and easily influenced.....,No one remembers Tide Pod challenge and Tide has to make a commercial telling people not to eat it. OH I GUESS WE ALL FORGOT!!!!
@@nostradamus9608 TT worked with the Biden admin. on "Project Texas". It was designed to keep the (U.S.) user group's private data stateside in Dallas, Texas . However, public and business data was still "in the pipes" and accessible to master administrators in Beijing. Republican donors (Club for Growth) originally stood behind Trump's efforts to ban TikTok - that position was reversed after Trump met with Jeff Yass. TT is throwing money at defeating the legislation. Stay tuned...
TikTok has a privacy policy which explicitly states that it may collect biometric identifiers and information from its users. Name a US social media company operating in China with a similar policy. location data vs biometric data...hmmm
all social media companies (as well as most tech companies and many non-tech companies) collect user data - and sell it - that's the business model - 'if you are not paying for the product - YOU ARE THE PRODUCT' - but people are very ignorant of how the internet works and makes money
I don’t care about the users. I think it’s all pretty stupid. What I do care about is the data protection or lack of. If funny how they want to do things to us, then go ballistic when something happens to them. They’re like being in a toxic relationship with a narcissist.
Most app has the potential to access contacts. If you use Walmart wify, you have to privide your email with contact access. Consumers need more privacy protection.
All China has to do is to go to Google or any one of thousands of other "advertising" platforms and buy the same data that they gather on TikTok. There is a simple rule on the internet: If it is free, you are NOT the customer. You are the PRODUCT.
Gen Z gets 80% of it's news from TikTok..,......oh can't imagine how I can't be used to influence elections, start negative social change, and etc. Oh what.........lowest record of birthrate and marriages in 150 years since recorded history. People are stupid and easily influenced.....,No one remembers Tide Pod challenge and Tide has to make a commercial telling people not to eat it. OH I GUESS WE ALL FORGOT!!!!
actually, social media is merely a reflector and amplifier of American culture - a culture of selfishness and decadence. Banning XYZ social media app will change nothing
@@feignitExactly.They don't want you hearing from foreign entities.They want to control your media..... What does that sound like again?It starts with a c ....com...commun...communi... Well, d*** my stupid TikTok brain can't think of it.maybe later.😊
There is nothing stopping US from talking to the creators and putting limits on the app. I think banning most things is a little extreme though. The app maybe overstepping in its boundaries on privacy issues, and that can be discussed, but there are other solutions. I don't use it, however.
Because a lot of younger people use it and they have a right to have something they enjoy, not that I owe you an explanation. Why do you care why I give a crap as you so eloquently (not) put it @@winterblommetjie
Remember bills like this will be benign at first but then be used against things that you actually care about in the future. Not a big fan of giving all this power to the government to ban things on the internet. You give the government an inch that go a mile they wanted control over the Internet for a while
Americans should think about why a Singaporean would want to found TikTok in China first, but not in the United States. In the last era 2000-2010, these things were 100% found in the United States first.
Consider that it's a very broad and prolific Chinese surveillance apparatus, that United States users willfully log into. I used to be addicted to it. November 2023 i stopped using it. After a month of not using the app, It felt like i did a mental detox. I never went back. January 1st 2024, I ended up deleting the app from all my electronic devices. I have zero desire to go back to it. If President Biden does in fact decide to sign the Tiktok ban into law, it will definitely have in impact on his voters that use it. Especially ones who earn money from the app directly, or use it to promote thier business.
If they get on the topic of cars ... Every new car is collecting data on your driving habits. Every car manufacturer, not just electric cars. They need to get into negotiations on where the data goes, who gets what and how. No way around it and it needs to happen asap. Every app on your phone has permissions, every one, to get into your phone files, data, settings in some way or another. They can access your contacts, calendar, photos, phone (calls) microphone etc. They need to start those negotiations for every type of electronic device and the data, that's what needs to happen. To languish on that is foolish. We really don't need trade wars.
I think where they might be going with this is since China is a mindset in wanting to invade Taiwan, the US government may think that China MAY use its assets (In this case tiktok) as a means of opening a door in gathering information during wartime (IF a war starts). Now I am IN NOWAY saying the US is any better in anyway shape or form, I am just tossing a potential theory on the table.
When I was a kid, I wanted to be a fire fighter. You ask kids in the 3rd grade today what they want to be and they say, influencer. It's sad really. US needs productive members of society, not another talentless kid trying to go viral.
For the sake of argument, let’s say the Chinese government could access our TikTok data. What exactly is the national security threat in the CCP knowing that I enjoy watching funny animal videos? And if TikTok is a threat, why are they not also banning, insta, twitter, FB, etc.?
No, our government is
The bill won't pass. The Democrats will get their money cut off and they dont want that.
Allowing political parties to take donations from private corporations is a threat to national security
and national interest
It’s AIPAC behind the scene.
Bingo....If only they banned the Dual-Citizens in ZioCongress....
It wasn't a problem until it exposed the genocide to the kids.
😅 I don't think you listened
@@1upJeCK I did... It's silly... Your food and medicine and tech come from China. You're worried about your data NOW?
How come you weren't worried when orange warned you? Before tic tok even blew up.
@@1upJeCK I did, its silly...
You're worried about your data NOW?
I don't believe you.
Your medicine is from China. Maybe start there?
It didn't occur to me before how many IDF soldiers actually post their war crimes on that platform. Now it makes sense.
@@bennyboy776 I'm old now. But I see what the kids are watching... It's not dance videos anymore. It's war crimes!
I don't have tiktok and I don't understand this. If it was that big of a deal, why didn't they ban it 3 years ago when it first broke out?
because it was not used by Palenstines at that time to show how Isreal snipers shot babies and kids and call them small Hamas..
Every teenage girl will go into withdrawal. They might also have a clue about what's happening in their classes.
The government sees it as a threat because of how quickly people can organize and speak against them.
Or it's because it's the most intrusive app in existence
How is it more intrusive than facebook twitter instagram?????@@1upJeCK
Government is scared the working class masses may see some truth
I'm no fan of tik Tok nor giving this kind of power to the government but I also recognize that tik Tok is snooping on a whole different level. I won't use it on my computer because I work in and it compromises everything.
Now what if the person is looking to help the government? 🤔
Just another broad vague bill that grants over-reach.
Sure thing you empty paged Chinese bot.
You are one of the few 'who gets it.' Thankfully there are enough of us software and web / app developers/ server freaks who will fight till the very last to keep the internet free and decentralized.
Gen Z gets 80% of it's news from TikTok..,......oh can't imagine how I can't be used to influence elections, start negative social change, and etc.
Oh what.........lowest record of birthrate and marriages in 150 years since recorded history. People are stupid and easily influenced.....,No one remembers Tide Pod challenge and Tide has to make a commercial telling people not to eat it. OH I GUESS WE ALL FORGOT!!!!
yeah... according to chinese trolls. lol
@@nostradamus9608 TT worked with the Biden admin. on "Project Texas". It was designed to keep the (U.S.) user group's private data stateside in Dallas, Texas . However, public and business data was still "in the pipes" and accessible to master administrators in Beijing. Republican donors (Club for Growth) originally stood behind Trump's efforts to ban TikTok - that position was reversed after Trump met with Jeff Yass. TT is throwing money at defeating the legislation. Stay tuned...
TikTok has a privacy policy which explicitly states that it may collect biometric identifiers and information from its users. Name a US social media company operating in China with a similar policy. location data vs biometric data...hmmm
all social media companies (as well as most tech companies and many non-tech companies) collect user data - and sell it - that's the business model - 'if you are not paying for the product - YOU ARE THE PRODUCT' - but people are very ignorant of how the internet works and makes money
@disruptapps I think the difference here is tik tok is owned by a Chinese company which guarantees the CCP is harvesting data.
@@disruptappsi am for sure
Every company collects data, even local restaurants likely already have your data.
dont speak if you dont know for sure...its not a good look
I don’t care about the users. I think it’s all pretty stupid. What I do care about is the data protection or lack of. If funny how they want to do things to us, then go ballistic when something happens to them. They’re like being in a toxic relationship with a narcissist.
Facebook is banned in china 😂😂
Should be banned in America
Tiktok actually did the same to other social media FB, YT, except opening a backdoor and admin account for US. government supervision.
I'm going to grab some popcorn and come back to these comments
Most app has the potential to access contacts. If you use Walmart wify, you have to privide your email with contact access. Consumers need more privacy protection.
Accessing contacts is different than accessing biometric data
America going to hell
You just now noticed A little late
@@roymoxley2587 I pray that God destroys this wicked system
@@khalfanihoward1826
He can't even follow his own laws 😂
CCP bad
Yup not like US bomb bomb everyday
Nope. The government already banned their employees from using it.
All China has to do is to go to Google or any one of thousands of other "advertising" platforms and buy the same data that they gather on TikTok. There is a simple rule on the internet: If it is free, you are NOT the customer. You are the PRODUCT.
threat to mental health, threat to education, threat to social unity
Gen Z gets 80% of it's news from TikTok..,......oh can't imagine how I can't be used to influence elections, start negative social change, and etc.
Oh what.........lowest record of birthrate and marriages in 150 years since recorded history. People are stupid and easily influenced.....,No one remembers Tide Pod challenge and Tide has to make a commercial telling people not to eat it. OH I GUESS WE ALL FORGOT!!!!
Threat to Group-Think, threat to Group-Think, threat to Group-Think
actually, social media is merely a reflector and amplifier of American culture - a culture of selfishness and decadence. Banning XYZ social media app will change nothing
Yeah yeah, just like video games were going to be the downfall of society in the 90s. We’re still here.
@@kristinn3367 And Jazz, and marijuana, and horror films, and rap, and rock, and science, and atheism, and books that challenge the Status Quo.
ban it
Maybe, but this should be low on our priority list compared to other things
Sounds pretty anti-capitalist to force a private company to sell.
Free speech 😢
Free speech is great when it’s not controlled by a political party, because than it’s not free anymore.
Not for foreign entities.
@@feignitExactly.They don't want you hearing from foreign entities.They want to control your media..... What does that sound like again?It starts with a c ....com...commun...communi... Well, d*** my stupid TikTok brain can't think of it.maybe later.😊
RIP Free Speech
Well, China should have the same concern. Time to get US companies out of China? 🤔
@@James-gp6ur 😂 those poor corporations forced to make more profit by obama
China already tightly controls businesses operating in China.
TikTok? Hardly, but dual citizens certainly are
Long story short, yeah, it is.
No, but it's a threat to mental health
A adversary misinformation platform it is a national security threat?
This is stupid
There is nothing stopping US from talking to the creators and putting limits on the app.
I think banning most things is a little extreme though.
The app maybe overstepping in its boundaries on privacy issues, and that can be discussed, but there are other solutions. I don't use it, however.
You sound like you do in fact use it why else would you give a crap about it being banned
Because a lot of younger people use it and they have a right to have something they enjoy, not that I owe you an explanation. Why do you care why I give a crap as you so eloquently (not) put it @@winterblommetjie
BAN is a four-letter word!
I think we need to take a stern pose but remain friendly with china.
It is if it's owned by China.
BAN ALL CHINESE APPS
what us the freedom of speech
dumb politicians
Sounds like something China would do.
Because its showing the truth?
TikTok spreads misinformation faster than the truth.
no, whoever ban it i wont vote for your party again, and even if you guys ban it i have a vpn so jokes on all you politicians anyway
Remember bills like this will be benign at first but then be used against things that you actually care about in the future.
Not a big fan of giving all this power to the government to ban things on the internet.
You give the government an inch that go a mile they wanted control over the Internet for a while
I have a feeling this bill isn’t just for TikTok. We need to have a look at this bill 👀
Lol 300k in jobs he means 300k in influencers
Influencers whose senistive data including bank information and Social Security numbers is stored on servers at Bytedance's HQ in Beijing.
Ban it.
Our government is
Americans should think about why a Singaporean would want to found TikTok in China first, but not in the United States. In the last era 2000-2010, these things were 100% found in the United States first.
What about people who take classified documents?
No its a threat to Amazon
Yes. The Chinese have data stealing software in TikTokkty
ever heard of the NSA?
@@government_is_violence Both CCP and "NZA" seem to be cut from the same tree. At least banning TikTok will hamper one of those evil entities.
@NinjaDefiler DUH,. when has government ever cared about anyone but themselves? yet you people STILL vote for it and fund it
@NinjaDefiler they spy on you and steal your data, yet you people dont say a peep about them
Okay it's about data protection
Tiktok secret algorithm may contain spy balloons or things that make you addictive to this app.
Short answer: Yes.
Long answer: Yes, it is.
hardly, have you heard of the authoritarian us government?
No
Close it down mental health is at risk.
Consider that it's a very broad and prolific Chinese surveillance apparatus, that United States users willfully log into.
I used to be addicted to it.
November 2023 i stopped using it.
After a month of not using the app,
It felt like i did a mental detox.
I never went back.
January 1st 2024,
I ended up deleting the app from all my
electronic devices. I have zero desire to go back to it.
If President Biden does in fact decide to sign the Tiktok ban into law, it will definitely have in impact on his voters that use it. Especially ones who earn money from the app directly, or use it to promote thier business.
If they get on the topic of cars ...
Every new car is collecting data on your driving habits.
Every car manufacturer, not just electric cars.
They need to get into negotiations on where the data goes, who gets what and how.
No way around it and it needs to happen asap.
Every app on your phone has permissions, every one, to get into your phone files, data, settings in some way or another. They can access your contacts, calendar, photos, phone (calls) microphone etc.
They need to start those negotiations for every type of electronic device and the data, that's what needs to happen. To languish on that is foolish.
We really don't need trade wars.
So many KFCs and Starbucks in China............
Google, youtube, instagram, twitter not allowed in China
Owned by franchisees
If China force them to change name？@@kevin6293
They refuse to follow Chinese laws to operate in China. They decide to stay out of China.@@geepark9075
I think where they might be going with this is since China is a mindset in wanting to invade Taiwan, the US government may think that China MAY use its assets (In this case tiktok) as a means of opening a door in gathering information during wartime (IF a war starts).
Now I am IN NOWAY saying the US is any better in anyway shape or form, I am just tossing a potential theory on the table.
When I was a kid, I wanted to be a fire fighter. You ask kids in the 3rd grade today what they want to be and they say, influencer. It's sad really. US needs productive members of society, not another talentless kid trying to go viral.
Productive members don't have children ✅️
Tic tok scaring them release some more vidz let that bun them 😂
Yes.
Brandon was just on there
Rules for thee
Chile snapchat been got biometrics data and facial recognition data
For the sake of argument, let’s say the Chinese government could access our TikTok data. What exactly is the national security threat in the CCP knowing that I enjoy watching funny animal videos? And if TikTok is a threat, why are they not also banning, insta, twitter, FB, etc.?
American propaganda is only allowed how dare tik tok spread Chinese propaganda for Gaza. 😂😂😂
No
Shut it down stop playing around
Take it
IF YA SMELLL WHAT THE BLOODLINE IS COOKIN
Out
Yup
China being able to buy US politicians through legal briberys is the real national security threat.
Goood !!! Oneeee !!! Take it away please your hurting our young people more thrn helping the working ones !
Tik Tok also keeps tracks of your key stroke
No its not a threat to national security
Nice try, China.
All smart phones can be used to collect on data from you That’s a threat
0:42 300 America job at risk. But it was made from China. IT won't effect America at all. On job wise.
Many US companies do a lot with TikTok, believe it or not...
Elon Musk should buy it 😃
No