Abiotic oil theory is from a paper from the Weimar Republic in the thirties where "hydrocarbons" were produced up to propane from wustite and calcite at extreme temperature and pressure only found deep in the mantle. Natural gas is not long chain polymers as needed for liquid fuels at room temperature. The deepest vertical wells ever drilled were approx 7 miles deep. The minimum for these reactants to naturally form garbage tier propane or shorter "hydrocarbons" like butane or methane is over 30+ miles deep. Diesel and octane start breaking down (become gases slowly) at around 105°F to shorter hydrocarbons and will not exist over 300°F, while the abiotic theory requires temperatures over 800°K to make up to hexane C6H14 while octane is C8H18 and diesel/kero is +/-C12H23. Why it isn't relevant: Hexane isn't the bulk of the product, methane is. It will continue to break down as it approaches the surface. Millions of years of cycles will have already produced the bulk of the reactions in a system of decay rates. It's an endothermic rxn requiring isolated conditions that don't necessarily exist outside of speculation, no experiment, or objective evidence supports real world production. The limits of well depth due to the effects of heat on drilling equipment make a real world proof impossible. No well exists that claims an abiotic source. All histological wells have peaked and declined and have remained consistent with geological expectations for past biological processes including the fossil record. It is dishonest to present abiotic oil theory without acknowledging the easily identified fallacies and complete lack of KNOWN conditions upon which it could be falsified. polymerization of hydrocarbons takes place in the temperature range 600-1500 degrees C and at pressures range of 20-70 kbar [Kenney et al., 2002]; these conditions prevail deep in the Earth at depths of 70-250 km [Carlson et al. 2005]. All oil majors have conceded that declining EROEI was in 2018. Specifically December as per Dr Charles Hall. Nate Hagens just addressed Homeland Security on the subject, the video is on TH-cam. "The gazing populace accepts greedily, without examination, that which soothes superstition and promotes wonder." -Hume "The vast majority of people don't have the ability to judge who is a really good scientist." -Kary Mullis Why do you ignore the chemistry? Do you not understand it? Why do you take on faith what others claim without attempting the experiments, even second order, yourself? Who can you point to that is producing abiotic oil from a demonstrable source? Where is that? Simple questions, easily investigated, yet ignored, for what reason? "Democracy will not survive overpopulation." -Sagan "We seem to prefer a comfortable lie to the uncomfortable truth. We punish those who point out reality, and reward those who provide us with the comfort of illusion. Reality is fearsome .. but experience tells us that more fearsome yet is evading it." -Bill Moyers This generation, completely lost in the hysterics of video game and film fantasy, refuses to differentiate between objectivity and subjectivity. If you, yourself, cannot make abiotic oil, then stop believing the claims; because the act of trying to make it will demonstrate the ridiculousness of the claim itself. "To approach the limit of logic and reason that which can be differentiated, must be differentiated." -Campbell
22:52 there is a palpable hubris and cockiness with nesrly all Americans regarding collapse. Nearly everyone i know not only never thinks about this, i do not think they can imagine it. Tome, its been obvious for 2 decades now. The sheer shock of realization is the compnent that creates fear in me now. I truly believe im in acceptance about
There is a finite amount of oil on earth. Demand is growing. Current technology can only access the supply at the existing price. Eventually demand passes supply. The price goes up. Demand drops or supply is increased by those who can afford it. More money means oil producers can afford to go deeper and drill less productive wells. Demand rises. People go broke. Money dries up. Technology reaches it's limit. Supply drops. Peak oil. It is a mathematical certainty. The only question is when.
Prof. Haag, have you ever come across Art Berman on the internet? He's a very experienced petroleum geologist and I think you'd find his talks very useful from a technical stand point. Learn to code? Nah, learn to garden.
Sure it's panicking if you are the first one to the door, doesn't mean your garden will survive when others come but totally agree about learning to garden, without synthetic fertilisers.
@@Fran-mr3yo Agreed, we may be at “peak-oil” in the memetic sense as well as the physical. What comes after progress is a much more interesting question at this point than whether peak oil is real
Care to develop? For me the word progress is a modern invention in the conceptual sense and that what we consider progress has always been a deterioration and degradation for rational people of the past. So its quite constant, its always been a degradation and will end in it. I guess the existential question, a personal one, is, how can I find a solution to this in my life? That's really the interesting question, cause there is pretty much nothing to do concerning the fall of civilizations @@dustyjones9874
Us economic decline is moreso due to the rise of China/offshoring manufacturing. The plan was to turn China into a client state while transitioning the west into higher paying higher value jobs. Instead it created elite overproduction and a huge gap between rich and poor. Unconventional oil became profitable due to technological advancements. But it's always only relatively profitable. The easy oil days are over. But then again people could say the same thing in the 1940s. In like 1880, oil extraction technology was so Primitive it was basically taking a big auger and drilling 70 feet down using nothing but manpower.
Kant always seemed to me like overwrought platonism necessitated by the progress bias. Sorry, this explanation of the peak oil confirmation bias still does not clarify Kant. Is Kant shorthand for upside down world?
I am not talking about TV. I am talking about the internet and other forms of media that the world is inundated with and is controlled by a small subset of the population@@ethanfreeland2510
How do you think these words are true? USA is 4% of the world, is 51% of all currency and streams it through the military that is equal to the next 12 countries put together instead of medical care, roads, decent police... If 80% of the homeless spend $50 a day that is 25 million a day being spent, and all this is protected by someone as they are getting paid. I would say resource allocation is the direct reason social decline has happened.
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Always thoughtful, thorough and interesting perspectives of whatever topic/subject you tackle. Appreciate you, Sir
Love the intelligent humor. Your analysis is valuable, as always, but the laughs are priceless..
Never thought about peak human competence.... Hmmmm.💥
0:34 Is Peak Really a Thing?
14:42 Abiotic Oil Theory
24:03 Peak Human Competence
Abiotic oil theory is from a paper from the Weimar Republic in the thirties where "hydrocarbons" were produced up to propane from wustite and calcite at extreme temperature and pressure only found deep in the mantle. Natural gas is not long chain polymers as needed for liquid fuels at room temperature. The deepest vertical wells ever drilled were approx 7 miles deep. The minimum for these reactants to naturally form garbage tier propane or shorter "hydrocarbons" like butane or methane is over 30+ miles deep.
Diesel and octane start breaking down (become gases slowly) at around 105°F to shorter hydrocarbons and will not exist over 300°F, while the abiotic theory requires temperatures over 800°K to make up to hexane C6H14 while octane is C8H18 and diesel/kero is +/-C12H23.
Why it isn't relevant:
Hexane isn't the bulk of the product, methane is.
It will continue to break down as it approaches the surface.
Millions of years of cycles will have already produced the bulk of the reactions in a system of decay rates.
It's an endothermic rxn requiring isolated conditions that don't necessarily exist outside of speculation, no experiment, or objective evidence supports real world production.
The limits of well depth due to the effects of heat on drilling equipment make a real world proof impossible.
No well exists that claims an abiotic source.
All histological wells have peaked and declined and have remained consistent with geological expectations for past biological processes including the fossil record.
It is dishonest to present abiotic oil theory without acknowledging the easily identified fallacies and complete lack of KNOWN conditions upon which it could be falsified.
polymerization of hydrocarbons takes place in the temperature range 600-1500 degrees C and at pressures range of 20-70 kbar [Kenney et al., 2002];
these conditions prevail deep in the Earth at depths of 70-250 km [Carlson et al. 2005].
All oil majors have conceded that declining EROEI was in 2018. Specifically December as per Dr Charles Hall.
Nate Hagens just addressed Homeland Security on the subject, the video is on TH-cam.
"The gazing populace accepts greedily, without examination, that which soothes superstition and promotes wonder." -Hume
"The vast majority of people don't have the ability to judge who is a really good scientist." -Kary Mullis
Why do you ignore the chemistry? Do you not understand it? Why do you take on faith what others claim without attempting the experiments, even second order, yourself? Who can you point to that is producing abiotic oil from a demonstrable source? Where is that? Simple questions, easily investigated, yet ignored, for what reason?
"Democracy will not survive overpopulation." -Sagan
"We seem to prefer a comfortable lie to the uncomfortable truth. We punish those who point out reality, and reward those who provide us with the comfort of illusion. Reality is fearsome .. but experience tells us that more fearsome yet is evading it." -Bill Moyers
This generation, completely lost in the hysterics of video game and film fantasy, refuses to differentiate between objectivity and subjectivity. If you, yourself, cannot make abiotic oil, then stop believing the claims; because the act of trying to make it will demonstrate the ridiculousness of the claim itself.
"To approach the limit of logic and reason that which can be differentiated, must be differentiated." -Campbell
Nice and informative. Please quote the sources you used for the data collection in the description for further followups if needed by anyone. 😊😊
22:52 there is a palpable hubris and cockiness with nesrly all Americans regarding collapse. Nearly everyone i know not only never thinks about this, i do not think they can imagine it. Tome, its been obvious for 2 decades now. The sheer shock of realization is the compnent that creates fear in me now. I truly believe im in acceptance about
There is a finite amount of oil on earth. Demand is growing. Current technology can only access the supply at the existing price. Eventually demand passes supply. The price goes up. Demand drops or supply is increased by those who can afford it. More money means oil producers can afford to go deeper and drill less productive wells. Demand rises. People go broke. Money dries up. Technology reaches it's limit. Supply drops. Peak oil. It is a mathematical certainty. The only question is when.
Prof. Haag, have you ever come across Art Berman on the internet? He's a very experienced petroleum geologist and I think you'd find his talks very useful from a technical stand point.
Learn to code? Nah, learn to garden.
"Learn to code? Nah, learn to garden" This comment makes me think of the name of Michael Greers book.... Collapse now and avoid the rush.
@@427vot "It's not panicking if you're the first one to the door"
Sure it's panicking if you are the first one to the door, doesn't mean your garden will survive when others come but totally agree about learning to garden, without synthetic fertilisers.
It seems like more people are becoming aware of the possibility of decline, prepping and civil war movies coming out of Hollywood.
And the mainstream talk of civil war. It doesn't get anymore mainstream than an Obama produced movie on the topic of prepping and civil war.
@@Fran-mr3yo Agreed, we may be at “peak-oil” in the memetic sense as well as the physical. What comes after progress is a much more interesting question at this point than whether peak oil is real
Care to develop? For me the word progress is a modern invention in the conceptual sense and that what we consider progress has always been a deterioration and degradation for rational people of the past. So its quite constant, its always been a degradation and will end in it. I guess the existential question, a personal one, is, how can I find a solution to this in my life? That's really the interesting question, cause there is pretty much nothing to do concerning the fall of civilizations @@dustyjones9874
Us economic decline is moreso due to the rise of China/offshoring manufacturing. The plan was to turn China into a client state while transitioning the west into higher paying higher value jobs. Instead it created elite overproduction and a huge gap between rich and poor.
Unconventional oil became profitable due to technological advancements. But it's always only relatively profitable. The easy oil days are over. But then again people could say the same thing in the 1940s. In like 1880, oil extraction technology was so Primitive it was basically taking a big auger and drilling 70 feet down using nothing but manpower.
I agree I dont think we are loosing our middle class/standard ou living due to no oil
Kant always seemed to me like overwrought platonism necessitated by the progress bias. Sorry, this explanation of the peak oil confirmation bias still does not clarify Kant. Is Kant shorthand for upside down world?
No more celebrity gossip Chad, I beg you! I don't care about Snow White! Materialism please please please!
Whats going on in America has more to do wity social decline then resource acquisition
The social drama on your television screen is a lot less influential on real life decision making than you have been led to believe
I am not talking about TV. I am talking about the internet and other forms of media that the world is inundated with and is controlled by a small subset of the population@@ethanfreeland2510
How do you think these words are true?
USA is 4% of the world, is 51% of all currency and streams it through the military that is equal to the next 12 countries put together instead of medical care, roads, decent police...
If 80% of the homeless spend $50 a day that is 25 million a day being spent, and all this is protected by someone as they are getting paid. I would say resource allocation is the direct reason social decline has happened.