Why Do Foreigners Come to Finland - Foreigners in Finland Podcast #1

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  • @ApocalypseRider
    @ApocalypseRider 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Thanks guys for great podcast. You made really good points here. I'm native finn and I agree that we have still lot of work to do to make foreigners integrate easier to this society and get employed. Finnish language is difficult, but I hope everyone understands, that our language is crucial thing to this nation even exist. It has isolated us here between Sweden and Russia since the beginning of civilization and has gave us our unique state, has build our character as a nation and as individually.
    I'm exited to hear you more.

    • @foreignersinfinland1170
      @foreignersinfinland1170  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Such a good comment, it’s all about finding a balance! Finnish is a really unique language- we are both learning to speak it 💪

    • @Futucast
      @Futucast 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@foreignersinfinland1170 I also liked the nuance you added, that Finland’s promise has to a lot to do with community and security. That still leads to an apprehension to reform among some, even if it might be a misguided apprehension. Also, these things change in a generational pace. Having lived both here and abroad for all of my 28 years, we’re still kind of sort of in the middle of growing out of being the distant new guy in town.
      But yes, you’re spot on, I think Finland can and should do more do to actively internationalize itself.
      Great show, a pleasure to listen to. /Isak

    • @foreignersinfinland1170
      @foreignersinfinland1170  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the comment and sharing your perspective, I agree that international change is generational but only if we push for it!

    • @tekshino
      @tekshino 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@foreignersinfinland1170 I have one question for you guys :D Would you hire a person to your company who doesn't speak or understand english at all in the States or Australia?

  • @Pyhantaakka
    @Pyhantaakka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Ha, when I went to be an exchange student in a mid sized town in the US, "why did you come here" was one of the top questions.

  • @IrishinFinland
    @IrishinFinland 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Great show lads! Keep em coming, Loved it 🤌🏻

    • @foreignersinfinland1170
      @foreignersinfinland1170  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks mate! Appreciate the support from another foreigner in Finland 💪

    • @xYarbx
      @xYarbx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@foreignersinfinland1170 thanks for tipping us on this

    • @kimmikke_
      @kimmikke_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aaron you have a great channel also, top notch!

  • @meloctavia
    @meloctavia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So excited for your show! 👏🏻🔥💥

  • @tajriaaan
    @tajriaaan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm thinking of coming to Aalto as an undergrad from Bangladesh next year. This is very helpful

  • @herrabeerbear5344
    @herrabeerbear5344 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Nice idea! Very Finnish problems guy has done many funny things about this foreigner life with books + podcasts and videos etc. You should listen

  • @dariatcvetkova3712
    @dariatcvetkova3712 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    looking forward to the next episode!

  • @manieczkaa
    @manieczkaa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice! Finally someone picked it up from our side. Would love to do sharing of experiences by foreigners on the podcast. Great idea!

  • @vvwvvwvv
    @vvwvvwvv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Awesome! Thank you for this. Exploring moving to northern Europe so conversations like this are invaluable. Looking forward to future episodes.

  • @mimik5856
    @mimik5856 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Foreigner from UK here, living in hakeniemi helsinki.looking forward to your vids

  • @xYarbx
    @xYarbx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In Finland you are not judged based on what you have but what you know and can do. In Finnish context this is fair to me because here you are given all the opportunities to make your self the best you can be. Where as in other countries you are quite often held back by money.

  • @rainbowflash7284
    @rainbowflash7284 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great video!
    As an American hoping to move to Finland, it's always a little comforting to hear other foreigners' POV and insights.
    That's an interesting statistic, that most people you know of who move for family are moving to join a female partner. I'm moving for a male partner!
    Also hoping to get a job as a pilot. Thankfully that is an English speaking industry for the most part, so hopefully it won't be too difficult. Though I'm still trying to learn the Finnish language, it is a large barrier.
    I'm excited to hear more of what you guys have to say about everything there!

    • @foreignersinfinland1170
      @foreignersinfinland1170  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great to hear, the more the merrier 😁 having a job with mostly English is a big advantage. We are both learning Finnish so maybe we can give some tips in an upcoming pod…

  • @theloremaster1
    @theloremaster1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video! Looking forward to the next one 🙂

  • @AussieFin
    @AussieFin ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the podcast guys 🤙

  • @benjamin5370
    @benjamin5370 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Loved it guys! Would love to hear about your experiences learning Finnish and maybe hearing you speak some of it on the podcast 😂 it might help some people learning it. Cheers!

    • @foreignersinfinland1170
      @foreignersinfinland1170  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! Great idea 💡 I think we could do this soon! Are you trying to learn Finnish?

    • @benjamin5370
      @benjamin5370 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@foreignersinfinland1170 I’m a dual citizen so I’ve spoken both languages since birth, I’ve just moved back to Finland from the USA though and I’m starting to learn how to read and write bc I’ve only known the language from speaking with my family

    • @foreignersinfinland1170
      @foreignersinfinland1170  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@benjamin5370 Living here will definitely help strengthen your language. Just make sure to use it as much as possible, even if your Finnish friends try to switch to English! That happens quite a bit here since many Finns speak English very well.

  • @Seek_Grass
    @Seek_Grass 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    12:20 That's a great point about status, both dictated by the "non-bragging" culture and due to the high education level throughout the society and age ranges the social culture is more of a meritocracy. I don't know if you guys have been to some regular "parties" or gatherings but the most asked questions to anyone is what is your education or what is your job.

  • @imtiazmahmood2234
    @imtiazmahmood2234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Guys, thanks for making this wonderful podcast. It certainly shades the light on some different perspectives on the Finnish society. keep it up!

    • @foreignersinfinland1170
      @foreignersinfinland1170  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad to hear you enjoyed it! Hopefully we'll see you in the next one. 😄

  • @whaleacademic7750
    @whaleacademic7750 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great watch. Looking forward to seeing more of you :)

  • @kimmikke_
    @kimmikke_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is so cool, please continue with it! My only complaint is that there are so few videos yet (no pressure, you make them when you feel to do so :) ), I watched all of these in a row and was both thoroughly entertained as well as learning greatly of things from experiences of immigrants from two great cultures! Sometimes one finds rarely really useful stuff from TH-cam, but only sometimes ;)

  • @kerryh3833
    @kerryh3833 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm in Helsinki, finland right now, for the first time (I'm on holiday). I've watched so many videos about it before coming here.
    I think i wont want to go home 😮

  • @bobsondugnutt4445
    @bobsondugnutt4445 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice concept and execution, well done. Keep this vibe. EDIT. almost listened to the whole thing now and I’m really impressed by the insights too. Nice natural mix of observations and takes.

  • @martinnurminen7644
    @martinnurminen7644 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Welcome to Finland!! Would be awesome to show you some rare places here. 😎

  • @wilhelmsarasalo3546
    @wilhelmsarasalo3546 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good job! I am a Finn, but I have lived in Manhattan Beach (Los Angeles) most of my life. When I went to Japan with my client/friend, owner of a kind of famous video store, Video Archives to stay at the house where he was born in Kyoto, he needed to get a visa, I did not. I have been entertaining the idea of moving back to Finland (or Sweden), I do speak Finnish and Swedish, but after all these years, I would probably still be a foreigner. Signed a NDA with Nokia once, but the way they did business wasn't for me, they seemed interested in things other than getting stuff done, very different from California usually. BTW here in my experience it has been first name and if the first name is John or Steve or something really common then you go Steve L. or some such talking to third parties.

    • @wilhelmsarasalo3546
      @wilhelmsarasalo3546 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Phuck TH-cam censorship That has not been my experience. My experience has been that it is easy to get a job here due to the fact that they can get rid of you if things don't work out. It is less of a commitment to hire, so they do it more readily. Lots of jobs are not like that, though and they are much harder to get.

  • @massukka
    @massukka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Haven't ever thought about the status-thing even being a thing....clearly I'm a Finn 😂

  • @valhoundmom
    @valhoundmom ปีที่แล้ว

    I love Finland!! I think I want to move there eventually. Love the podcast, but STOP telling everyone! I like that it's almost a secret place. I want to live there to get better with speaking and reading Finnish. I don't have a partner but some really truly awesome friends there. I'm a female and I love traveling in Finland alone.
    You should mention that if you get a PhD in Finland you get a SWORD!

  • @janetchelimo8899
    @janetchelimo8899 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Am coming to Finland soon for studies, thank you for the information, it is useful and finish is really difficult, kiitos

    • @foreignersinfinland1170
      @foreignersinfinland1170  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So glad you found this video! The Finnish language is definitely not easy, but most university have Finnish classes you can take. So be sure to use those resources if you want to learn the language 😁 welcome to Finland Janet!

  • @lucasalvarezzarza899
    @lucasalvarezzarza899 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really appreciate this podcast! Is it possible to be a physical therapist only speaking English in Finland? What do you think guys?
    Thank you for this video! Keep going!

    • @foreignersinfinland1170
      @foreignersinfinland1170  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It depends where in Finland, you might be able to manage in the middle of Helsinki or the other largest cities - but elsewhere I doubt it…

  • @hawkeize
    @hawkeize 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for this video, I studied in Manly Sydney in 2004 from the U.K., so I know life in Australia 🇦🇺 really nice country, visiting friends in Helsinki in September, so trying to learn about Finland before visiting, I loved living in Sydney particularly Manly, so cool, Melbourne is so wet and cold 🥶😂😂, compared to Sydney my question is can you get Tim Tams in Finland ? 😂😂😂😂 you should set this program up like the Chaser in Australia, if it’s still going, loved watching that and the Wiggles 😅😅😅

    • @foreignersinfinland1170
      @foreignersinfinland1170  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha no Timtams in Finland that I have found 😩 if you think Melbourne is wet and cold you better bring proper clothes when visiting Helsinki!

    • @hawkeize
      @hawkeize 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@foreignersinfinland1170 I know I’m talking a lot about Australia 🇦🇺 , but I’m looking forward to going to Finland in September, my next question is how are you coping with the situation in Russia 🇷🇺? Must be quite scary 😟, how cold does it get up in the Artic circle in September?

    • @magicofshootingstar
      @magicofshootingstar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @hawkeize During september it's usually around +9°C in Arctic Circle (+-3 decrees depending of the time of day).
      But since it's Finland you are speaking it could be anything from -5 °C to +22°C (both ends have happened in last few years told to me by google) 😂 So, welcome 😉

  • @jerzyszmal2722
    @jerzyszmal2722 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello.......Poland here! Very interesting conversation. How difficult is Finnish language? I thought Polish language is also difficult language. What do you think guys? Best regards.....

    • @foreignersinfinland1170
      @foreignersinfinland1170  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Finnish is on the more difficult side. There is no other language close to it so everyone who starts learning has to learn vocabulary from absolute 0. And the grammar isn't the easiest either! I have no experience on the Polish language, but if you're curious to know more about the Finnish language, check out this link!
      uusikielemme.fi/

  • @jamesgarcia7108
    @jamesgarcia7108 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    me and my family will soon be living in Finland for good

  • @Lexikeksi
    @Lexikeksi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Finns are always pity people. Finns are only people in the world who are ready to pay 100€ for someone else not getting 50€. But its not like status question. We are not generally jelaous of your status. More like if you neighbour has better car even if general status is lower on that person. Its hard to explain. Thats part of our culture. But generally nobody is jelaus if you own big business and you are rich. I think we are so realistic people that we know that it needs shitload of work if you own big business (well if you didnt get it from your family). And we know that in reality if you want to be rich you need to work 247 for years and thats really nothing to jelaous of. :D

  • @samalsrei5089
    @samalsrei5089 ปีที่แล้ว

    Currently volunteering in Finland. I‘m curious to know why other people come here!

  • @fortuna7469
    @fortuna7469 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When making decisions people tend to think perhaps from 1 to max 5 years ahead. It seems somewhat difficult to imagine one's life beyond that. But if you think about how your life will be in 20 or 30 years time, what would be the most significant megatrend affecting our lives? It is the climate change, sad but true. The Nordic cool climate and natural water resources will be invaluable then. People will be moving here because of the weather. This might be worth considering when deciding where to locate and start a family.

  • @VampiraVonGhoulscout
    @VampiraVonGhoulscout 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    AleksiHimself says hi :)

  • @sallasundell4351
    @sallasundell4351 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I listen to your podcast while I am in Helsinki Central Park with my dogs. I have to say honestly that I myself ask everyone from elsewhere,what they do here or why they came to Finland 😂? Its big question for me, i really cant understand that.
    I have traveled a lot myself, but in Finland I love nature. It’s really beautiful, there’s a lot of it and it’s clean.
    The entire Helsinki Central Park alone covers more than 700 hectares and this is practically entirely forest. Not to mention when leaving outside Helsinki.
    Well, maybe Central "park" is wrong word, maybe Helsinki Central Forest is better word.
    But park is better word for Finns, cause this is so small forest to Finns.
    Check Helsinki central park or central forrest (i mean all people who read this) 🦎🌲🌳🐞.

    • @foreignersinfinland1170
      @foreignersinfinland1170  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the comment! Central Park (or forest) is such a nice place!

  • @SWATSPEC1AL1ST
    @SWATSPEC1AL1ST 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a finn I am always interested in foreign People thoughts in Finland etc. Do video about hockey and the world championships😄

    • @foreignersinfinland1170
      @foreignersinfinland1170  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This would be great to talk because it is such a big part of the Finnish culture. Congratulations to the Finnish hockey team and all the Finns!

  • @eskohakola835
    @eskohakola835 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You are pretty smart and should be able to pick up the Finnish language in a couple of months

    • @foreignersinfinland1170
      @foreignersinfinland1170  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahaha I’m not sure about that, you know it’s ranked as one of the world’s most difficult languages right? 😂

  • @kilik1532
    @kilik1532 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m thinking about going to Finland learning Finnish but it seems like there is no visa for Finnish language school students…

  • @ChristianJull
    @ChristianJull 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's strange. I've been in Finland 13 years, and I regularly got asked by fresh faces why I came here from the UK. Since Brexit, no-one has asked. 🤔
    Definitely language is a massive barrier to overcome in the job market. Many companies have English as a working language and that's it. However, even more have it as a working language but still insist on 'excellent' Finnish as a requirement. They often claim it's required for employee interactions and socially. However, when you ask people who work for these companies about this, they say they *always* speak English at work. 'Excellent Finnish' is job market code for 'native-level Finnish' and often means 'Finns-only' but they can't legally say that. It is not at all equal in standard to 'excellent English'.

    • @foreignersinfinland1170
      @foreignersinfinland1170  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah the job market and languages are a difficult one, maybe we will do an episode on this soon!

    • @MrSpritzmeister
      @MrSpritzmeister 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s not “Finns-only” code, it’s “I already know a guy but legally need to offer the job on the open market” code. At least so I hear from other Finns… haven’t tried getting a job in Finland tbh.

    • @jmm6917
      @jmm6917 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean, we are in Finland, so, it´s normal that finnish is a requirement in many jobs

    • @ChristianJull
      @ChristianJull 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jmm6917 Absolutely. And that's exactly what I'd expect and want. In fact, it annoys me immensely when I encounter people who can't speak any Finnish doing *customer-facing* jobs where they will be regularly dealing with Finnish-speakers. This happens all too often in Helsinki. However, that isn't what I said. If the company's working language is English (so they deal with customers in English and English is spoken in the workplace), Finnish shouldn't be a requirement, or at least not a native level requirement. Also, 'excellent' level for a language should be the same regardless of whether it's Finnish, English, Swedish, or whatever. That simply isn't the case. The level of Finnish expected by many Finnish employers is far greater than the level of English excepted for non-native English-speakers by most employers in the UK.

  • @Starlingus
    @Starlingus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We could improve a lot when u speak about languages. Personally, I'm bit afraid of the situation when 10 billion chinese suddenly want to come here to see how our forests look like

  • @magicofshootingstar
    @magicofshootingstar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Bousting about what you got, your status is seen bad" Little clarification from Finn: bragging about anything (of yours) in Finland is seen obnoxious. 😁 Not just about status.
    Finland has had many great athletes during the years and that is always funny to see in their interviews. Expecially older style athletes. For example (now an ex-) F1 driver Räikkönen said about his first race with Ferrari race that "it was ok" in reminiscing interview. In truth he had pole position, fastest lap time and in the end won the race. That's Finnish mentality 😁

    • @magicofshootingstar
      @magicofshootingstar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh! Other thing to add is that I didn't even know most of my universitys staffs status eg. Professor, lecturer etc. It didn't matter they were there to teach us anyway 😄

    • @foreignersinfinland1170
      @foreignersinfinland1170  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great point! Showing off about anything is not received well in Finnish culture. Finns have a lot of humility which is a wonderful trait to have. Thanks for the great comment!

  • @TerhiE.KärkkäinenSavela
    @TerhiE.KärkkäinenSavela 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All depends so much where are you born in, what culture are you born in and what kind of challenges life hands over for yous. Safety is as much there for one and not for the other. Might it be the country is choosing to not to place all its trouble in public awareness. US again places a whole lot for the public awareness. Where/what do it serve, do it make problem solving happen? Similarities in all worlds countries and crimes in each, how the society deals with it is different. Have a g stay in Fi, healing healing. 🙏🐣

  • @vostaserova3610
    @vostaserova3610 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Moi from Alex 😉

  • @lafinestracatalana8340
    @lafinestracatalana8340 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where are u based ? i m searching people to make a soccer foreign team.

    • @foreignersinfinland1170
      @foreignersinfinland1170  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Helsinki!

    • @lafinestracatalana8340
      @lafinestracatalana8340 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@foreignersinfinland1170 Perfect, I want to build a foreigner football team, are you interested? "I m near". Is to play to help people( one match at month to start ).

  • @urhonykvist8795
    @urhonykvist8795 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Finland is such a difrent language so you cant use swedish or english instead of finnish. In norway you can work as a server whit small swedish and English.

  • @ismoouu
    @ismoouu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mm. Jarrod is so handsome, smart and nice :) I think lot of people wouldn't mind if Aussies did mass-immigration to Finland.

  • @liubaoying8748
    @liubaoying8748 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    At least not asked about how like in Russia 😜

  • @Bambotb
    @Bambotb ปีที่แล้ว

    Any job for me?

  • @miikkavalimaki
    @miikkavalimaki 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finland, only one venomous animal vs. God knows how many venomous animals in Australia.

    • @foreignersinfinland1170
      @foreignersinfinland1170  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Everyone always so scared of the wildlife in Aus - no one in Australia thinks about it! 😁

    • @miikkavalimaki
      @miikkavalimaki 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@foreignersinfinland1170 That must be coping mechanism of human brain.

  • @hardrocker11969
    @hardrocker11969 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Finnish passport is actually #2 in the world second only to the UAE.