I am no pro scout or anything, but I am quite confident in saying that a torn ACL does not impede your ability to pick corners, it just slows you down. Mik was flying in the last half of the year and getting open a lot.... and then burying his chances into the crests of goalies jerseys. This is why I call him the Russian Raymond. He gets tons of scoring chances and only converts about 2% of them. Maybe less.
With the price it will cost there may not be much choice but to wait. Try and wave him and send him down to the minors if need be. Surley he can score there...... Moving him towards the deadline when he has showed signs of life might be the move. If we package him with a pick and get something back that is preferable to him and 2nd to wherever for future considerations.
Best case scenario is probably a hockey trade that entails risk factors regarding the assets going both ways. Kind of like the Kuemper for Dubois trade, both assets are big x-factors that have the potential of seriously not working out, although I think most would agree that Washington is taking on the greater magnitude of risk here
OEL is an offensive minded D that needed a defensive minded D Pairing him with Myers is the dumbest thing ever. Instead of OEL pushing for offense he had to cover for chaos giraffe Myers doesn’t have one defensive bone in his body, he looked good this year because Soucy was doing all of the defending. Hughes needs a good skating, good first passer DEFENSIVE Dman like a Tanev. This D core is a sham, they looked half decent because of team Defense Soucy, Myers, Zadorov, Cole are all bottom pair Defenseman on any real contender Myers would be a number 7 on most of them
You guys are also forgetting that there's guys like Joshua and Zedorov that the Canucks would like to resign, and I'd much rather give up a few picks and/or prospects to keep Joshua at 3.5-4 mil then Mikheyev at $4.75 mil. Joshua, if he can repeat last season and there's no reason why he can't, or even better it, then he's infinitely better value to have a guy who can score 18 or more goals, hit, check, playmake, kill penalties and turn the momentum around when the team is struggling in a game. Joshua has chemistry with the team, Mikheyev clearly does not. Mikheyev is also pushing 30, and due to start the downward swing of his production curve, while Joshua's still under 30, with room to improve.
Great asset management Give a 3rd to move Dickinson to Chicago Give a 2nd to move Pearson’s $ to Montreal Give a 1st, 2 prospects ( Dmen as if if their cupboards are over flowing ) and Kuzy to Calgary for a rental in Lindholm Please yes give up more draft picks for stoopid signings
As opposed to what? Give up a heart and soul guy like Joshua, who can produce infinitely better results and may be able to break into a middle 6 role with Garland? Break up our Life Line duo over our goals graveyard guy? No thanks. I'd rather give up the picks and cut our losses to keep better players who will help us NOW, and trust that Rutherford and Alvain will find new prospects to fill in the numbers in Abbotsford. Or perhaps you were thinking we give up on Big Z who's said he emphatically wants to be in Vancouver and is willing to give a discount to stay, and is our playoff mealticket player? Mikheyev was a bust, all options are bad, but losing better players that'll put our team right back into a rebuild after just 1 season to keep him is the worst of possible outcomes.
@@Inquisitive0Minds as opposed to giving up on the whole team and having to go back to a rebuild because ONE contract was bad and it cost us the depth players who'd get us to the dance for a possible multi season run as contenders?! You've got to be joking! When you make a bad signing, you DO NOT compound the problem by holding onto it, you pay the price to let it go. Ilya Mikheyev was a bad signing. Move on and let it go, let the cap hit go so we can keep the important players and team chemistry together. Even recovering half that 4.7 could mean the difference between losing Joshua, Myers, Silovs and Zedorov or keeping them.
@@Inquisitive0Minds Tall and fast guys are still hard to find. Even if Mikheyev's contract never looks great, it doesn't change the fact that players like him are by no means a dime a dozen
I am no pro scout or anything, but I am quite confident in saying that a torn ACL does not impede your ability to pick corners, it just slows you down. Mik was flying in the last half of the year and getting open a lot.... and then burying his chances into the crests of goalies jerseys. This is why I call him the Russian Raymond. He gets tons of scoring chances and only converts about 2% of them. Maybe less.
Mik needs to go to Siberia see a shaman find out which sacrifices are needed
With the price it will cost there may not be much choice but to wait. Try and wave him and send him down to the minors if need be. Surley he can score there......
Moving him towards the deadline when he has showed signs of life might be the move. If we package him with a pick and get something back that is preferable to him and 2nd to wherever for future considerations.
Best case scenario is probably a hockey trade that entails risk factors regarding the assets going both ways. Kind of like the Kuemper for Dubois trade, both assets are big x-factors that have the potential of seriously not working out, although I think most would agree that Washington is taking on the greater magnitude of risk here
OEL is an example of how good they can be after stinking out the joint in Van
OEL is an offensive minded D that needed a defensive minded D
Pairing him with Myers is the dumbest thing ever. Instead of OEL pushing for offense he had to cover for chaos giraffe
Myers doesn’t have one defensive bone in his body, he looked good this year because Soucy was doing all of the defending.
Hughes needs a good skating, good first passer DEFENSIVE Dman like a Tanev.
This D core is a sham, they looked half decent because of team Defense
Soucy, Myers, Zadorov, Cole are all bottom pair Defenseman on any real contender
Myers would be a number 7 on most of them
You guys are also forgetting that there's guys like Joshua and Zedorov that the Canucks would like to resign, and I'd much rather give up a few picks and/or prospects to keep Joshua at 3.5-4 mil then Mikheyev at $4.75 mil. Joshua, if he can repeat last season and there's no reason why he can't, or even better it, then he's infinitely better value to have a guy who can score 18 or more goals, hit, check, playmake, kill penalties and turn the momentum around when the team is struggling in a game. Joshua has chemistry with the team, Mikheyev clearly does not. Mikheyev is also pushing 30, and due to start the downward swing of his production curve, while Joshua's still under 30, with room to improve.
Joshua at 3.5-4M wouldn't be any better than keeping Mikheyev, recency bias written all over that
Termination mikheyev plan or waivers send him to Abby He's not Better next season after Game 7 missed 4.75
Great asset management
Give a 3rd to move Dickinson to Chicago
Give a 2nd to move Pearson’s $ to Montreal
Give a 1st, 2 prospects ( Dmen as if if their cupboards are over flowing ) and Kuzy to Calgary for a rental in Lindholm
Please yes give up more draft picks for stoopid signings
As opposed to what? Give up a heart and soul guy like Joshua, who can produce infinitely better results and may be able to break into a middle 6 role with Garland? Break up our Life Line duo over our goals graveyard guy? No thanks. I'd rather give up the picks and cut our losses to keep better players who will help us NOW, and trust that Rutherford and Alvain will find new prospects to fill in the numbers in Abbotsford.
Or perhaps you were thinking we give up on Big Z who's said he emphatically wants to be in Vancouver and is willing to give a discount to stay, and is our playoff mealticket player?
Mikheyev was a bust, all options are bad, but losing better players that'll put our team right back into a rebuild after just 1 season to keep him is the worst of possible outcomes.
Not really give up draft picks for stupid signings.
We're giving up draft picks to make up for stupid signings.
@@Inquisitive0Minds as opposed to giving up on the whole team and having to go back to a rebuild because ONE contract was bad and it cost us the depth players who'd get us to the dance for a possible multi season run as contenders?! You've got to be joking!
When you make a bad signing, you DO NOT compound the problem by holding onto it, you pay the price to let it go. Ilya Mikheyev was a bad signing. Move on and let it go, let the cap hit go so we can keep the important players and team chemistry together. Even recovering half that 4.7 could mean the difference between losing Joshua, Myers, Silovs and Zedorov or keeping them.
@@Inquisitive0Minds Tall and fast guys are still hard to find. Even if Mikheyev's contract never looks great, it doesn't change the fact that players like him are by no means a dime a dozen
@@Seriously_Unserious Joshua isn't what I'd call a heart and soul guy. Also, your definition of a hometown discount is delusionally extreme