@@mr.tropical7116 but the tangents are what make them entertaining. Everyone can say a fact, only lazerpig can talk about the 1924 railway act on a video about why the crusader is not as bad as you think
@@younoobskiller well yeah you have a point but I’d rather hear a somewhat entertaining fact about the mark iv tank than a rant about how living in the trenches is similar to passing out drunk and suffering from a hang over.
Ya, me too. That turret really is tiny AF, ive heard and seen a ton of people say it was tiny and sucked but you can really see it here. Nearly anything looks tiny with "the Cheiftan" standing near.
I too was quite surprised about the T-34’s small size. In fact, I thought it was some sort of mock-up, scaled down to a kid-friendly size. The Soviet Cold War tanks were also small, substantially smaller than Western tanks, I think around 80% of weight. I’d read about the size difference, but I never really understood it until I saw a photo of an American M60 next to a T-55 (or a T-6x). The M60 looked huge, looming over the Soviet vehicle. They looked like they had completely different purposes, rather than both being main battle tanks! I have never come across the photo again, sadly.
@@gerardlabelle9626 especially when imagining the gun, its in that tiny t34 turret!! Then the main guns in the later tanks you mentioned, ya no room!😳😉💯
@@mongoose4117I think the crew’s efficiency must have suffered when buttoned up for a while. How much could they have spread their limbs, jammed in so tight?
More than 40 years ago, in California, the US husband of our relative that had moved there from Germany wore such trousers. "Yes, they are horrible, european clothing is way more elegant, but my customers (he sold valves to farmers for their irrigation systems) require that I wear such clothing. With european clothes I would be an untrustworthy outsider".
Bill: "It did confuse me slightly, when the italians got their hands on it, they "developed it" by putting a four cylinder Fiat engine in it" Squire: "so it went from bumbling around the English countryside to breaking down in the italian one"
@@TheChieftainsHatch Ah! But was he the first outrageously drunk barnyard animal from the North of England to do so? Checkmate.* *Please prove me wrong by finding a military enthusiast chicken or something.
@@TheChieftainsHatch It is true that he was not the first, but it is difficult to repel the impression that the specific arguments used by squire in the film are very similar or even identically presented as in LazerPig video. Anyway i don't consider the t34 a good tank after seeing the attempts to leave it by hatch in your video : P
I actually looked him up after his top 5 tanks video ages ago and have been watching him since. Weirdest thing that ever happened to me was at Tankfest 2019 I was there and as we were leaving I looked out in the crowd and saw him it was actually surreal I had to do a reality check after that. It's strange that event was the only time I've ever seen a youtuber in public.
@@nesyboi9421 I was at 2019's as well! They had a meet'n'greet going as well, it was the Squire, The Chieftain and IronArmenian. All were wonderful to meet.
gotta say squire, i wasnt digging the bits , until the t-34 bit, the non-stop camera movement, you shitting on the tank, was glorious mate, great job , glory to the queen
@@HumphreyHorsehead I really hope you're getting paid to do promotion. LazerPig has the same sources as everyone else. Squire doesn't need to lift from anyone, he's got Tank Museum people right there to advise. They probably have a lot of the docs Pig referred to anyway.
This video was very much like lazer pig’s and probably a deliberate send you of it due it’s somewhat revisionist (albeit not entirely unjustified) take on the T34. Basically I think squire was engaging in some satire
@@xmlthegreat The way he touches on the points, the order in which he brings them up and the way he words them is almost a 1:1 dead ringer for LazerPig's video.. just excised down for brevity.
What he forgot to mention, is that they don't only make sketches, they actually make really good promotional content (sometimes better that the sketches itsefl, but i didn't say that :D)
How nice to see a young Lindy Beige in action.. (just kidding, but wow did he imitate him well in my opinion) :) Wonderful video as usual from The Tank Museum.
@@terraflow__bryanburdo4547 Of course - well reminded - listening now to Numan's 'b' side to his biggest hit, "Tanks" - later followed by "Our friends hybrid-electric", ^oo^
Very British humor - and you can see in the comments exactly who gets it and who does not. As an American who visits frequently I about half get it. No complaints here.
@@flapsmcginty4039 I’m British and in my late teens and I don’t find him that funny in this however I quite enjoy his channel videos perhaps this one isn’t as entertaining because they were asked to do this and didn’t have as much time to come up with some better jokes as a result
"The Carden-Loyd carrier, wich is perfectly good for bumbling around in the English coutry side... in peacetime." My thoughts exactly. David Willey doesn't like it when we trash talk interwar tank design, but really, even with the technology of the time, a vehicle that was proof against rifle caliber ammo, faster than a running man and equiped with a gun capable of killing a WWI tank from a safe distance in a at least two man turret shouldn't be that hard. It really shouldn't.
nobody really wanted to pay for an all mechanized division, so many of the interwar stuff was half measures, either the US's mechanized horses, or the german panzer 1's, or these tanklets, it made you look impressive without spending an impressive amount. its only after hitler was blitzing across europe and africa showing off the few mechanized divisions they had that everybody got serious, except for the italians, they never got serious
Well problem was, those tankettes is that they were created to solve a WWI problem and that was the problem, they werent designed to fight other tanks as much to act as mobile machinegun nests holding breaches in the trench lines until the infantry arrived. Japan used a lot of then but then again, they were used in China mostly and would not be particular in danger, the Pacific didnt lend itself to armored warfare so a very light tank armed with anti-infantry was a good match ... but since we talking about Japan here they were used in Khalkhin Gol against anti-tank weapons with the expected results.
Excellent Bottom 5. And great to see the early T34/76 getting a roasting, seeing as it was out there in real numbers for a time. Yes, the later T34 was much better, but that seems to have fostered the idea that the T34 was a good tank from the start.
The T-34s reputation is mostly based on two things: Early encounters by German infantry armed mostly with 3.7cm AT guns and German tanks armed with a mix of high-velocity 3.7cm and medium-velocity 5cm guns. How their large numbers resulted in there always being T-34s to continue overrunning German positions in the late war. (The video bumps up against one of the best tank related "the common wisdom is wrong" bits: T-34s and Shermans did end up taking each other on in Korea and, contrary to the stock 'the Sherman sucked and the T-34 was great' idea, the T-34s had their asses kicked.)
Added Fun Fact about the T34 gun: the early war anti-tank shells generally used by the USSR had a nitrocelluose primer, so the T34 guns were probably weaker in reality than they should have been on paper until British and American shipments started making up for Russia's logistical failures. I wish I could speak with certainty on that, but the USSR was so proud of its ammunition production that it forbade a full analysis until decades after the wars.
Yea but British cordite was made of nitro cellulose and nitroglycerin, nitro cellulose is called gun cotton and it's a fine low explosive to use as a primary
Funny thing about the T-34; a lot of the quality of the tank depended on where it was built. There were like, three factories known for putting out *really* good T-34s, and quite a few that were known for...rather inferior productions. IIRC; akin to arriving on the field with cracks in the armor or along weld lines just from the train ride.
@@Eire_Aontaithe Ya I agree. I never understood how bad the T34 was untill I saw lazerpig's video on it. I knew there where short cuts, but it never clicked to me how many there where.
@UCrKQFYzmDg5yLznOMGrg1pw winning doesnt make it good. The Sherman also won and was better in every way except the gun was marginally worse. For example, the survival rate for the crew when a Sherman got hit was 80%, on a T-34 it was 15% on a good day.
The T34 is a great example of an incredibly well designed tank, but built awful. They cut so many corners in design and practicality for the crew that it severely diminished the tank.
It wasn't incredibly well designed, since they cut so many corners in design and practicality for the crew that it severely diminished the tank. It had massive shot traps all around the turret, the suspension was very bumpy, the tank could not shoot after stopping, since it bounced back and forth, the crew needed some time for the tank to stabilize, wasting valuable seconds. The transmission gearbox broke down very often, or got stuck in one gear, the fuel tank was inside the crew compartment, so any hits to it would be devastating. The hot spent shell casings were landing on the floor and the crew stepped and tripped on them, the optics were bad, etc. But all that didn't matter, because there were so many of them. They actually did design the T-34M, which fixed many of the problems. But they could not convert the production lines to start building the T-34M, because they needed to keep the production of the T-34 going, as they were losing so many tanks so fast.
And a lot of the production defects are thanks to one of the many Soviet tractor factories deciding to see how quickly they could throw the thing together.. some even had polished metal for mirrors in their periscopes, while others didn't have one at all
They had to to get them out fast enough. The Red Army lost 20,000 tanks in 1941, and they had to overhaul the German numerical advantage to be able to fight back on such a vast length of front. They planned for heavy attrition, more than anyone else planned for the attrition which happened, which meant needing to get monthly output up at all costs to replace losses and grow the force.
I love this comic approach to Tank Chats. I'm a Yank, and this Squire and his friend seem British, so maybe that's why I don't know of them, but they get serious points about tanks across in a brilliantly hilarious way. I laughed and learned at the same time. (When the Soviet soldier clocked Squire for bad mouthing the T-34, which I've never heard bad mouthed before, I myself was floor with hilarity.)
"Springer" (Hopper) ist what the germans call the Knight in a chess set (Bishop is Läufer or Runner, Rook is Turm or tower, Queen is Dame / Lady, King is König) In the vehicles defence - it would NOT have been driven to a place where the enemy could shoot at it by a driver. The driver would dismount well before that and the thing radio controlled to the target while sitting safely in a StuG NSU is the shortcut for Neckarsulm. The city where the company was located (A bit like MAN - Maschinenfabrik Augsburg Nürnberg - maschine manufacturers Augsburg Nürnberg)
I enjoy the Historian charachter lol. A fun collaboration with Lindybeige is in order. The humor and styles would mesh well. Be like the Brittish, History-themed Abbot and Costello act. I wanna see it. 😁
With Bill there, surely more like The Goodies? Bill as Tim Brooke-Taylor, Lindybeige as Graeme Garden, Squire as Bill Oddie? "Do do do the funky Sherman"
Two types of comments: 1: I find squire funny 2: this isn't funny therefore nobody else should be able to watch it, watching this offended me so much I'm writing to my MP and my nan died because of it.. Boomers.....
0:25 "remember this is a family friendly channel so obviously no swearing" as we rate the bottom 5 machines designed specifically to maim, kill and destroy. Because we can teach the kids about killing machines but naughty words are a no-no.
You guys have been watching Lazerpig. Good on ya mates. 👏 You should do a colab when he gets back. Love your comedy, Solid Gold. I can never figure out if Bill is really tall, or Olly is really short, or both.
It would be fun to have a compilation of 'can both Chieftan and Bill fit in this tank at the same time?'. For the Caro Veloce, I'm not sure either of them would fit solo. Maybe Bill, as he's younger and more flexible, provided he's had some expert yoga instruction beforehand.
I just wish the tank museum had a small room called the "Frank Museum", with pictures of various people, famous or not, called Frank. like Frank N. Furter, Frankenstein, Anne Frank, Frank the repairman (just around the corner of your local dentist's office)
The role the AEC armoured cars filled was the heavy support element of AC units. Not as fast as the others, but they gave a better anti-armour option should they run into mechanized forces. Also note that while the Mk I only carried AP rounds for its 2lbr, the Mk II did carry HE, (and honestly was quickly replaced by the 75mm armed Mk III).
@0:03 IMHO that was Young Ones/Bad News type humour. Nice to see a fresh approach to this. Refering to the info boards was amusing too. Good job. Thanks.
God, love to travel from the States to see the collection someday. Thanks for all the TH-cam content, since in the meantime it's the next best thing :)
I'm glad you two were able to sneak in. Brilliant that you got a camera operator, too. Good job though, very entertaining. Y'all have a gift with the absurd.
Now he's truly made it. Squire was at Bovington lads! Proper chap he is too. And a nice surprise for these two to appear at The Bovington Tank Museum and all! And above all, this was very funny.
@@whatsoperadoc7050 I think that was around Tankfest, when I ended up next to him at the burger bunker, handing him the ketchup. Heard that wonderful voice say "hey chap, would you be so kind to hand me the bottle after you're done?" and was like WAIT A SECOND xD
@@EmyrDerfel Sadly didn't have the mental quickness to do that. Just said "sure" and looked for a moment, then asked him if he was Squire. He said yes and shook my hand. xD That weekend was crazy anyway since I went there with Military History Visualized, Military Aviation History and the Chieftain...and met TIK and Lindybeige. All just sitting together with ME at a table and talking. Crazy day.^^
The fact is, even the worse tank or armored car in the world is still a terror to the infantry. An armored car is fine for scouting, you are out in front of your army looking for the enemy, when you see him you write down what you see and head back to HQ. If you see a tank you don;t fight it, you get out of sight and head back to HQ. The secret to victory has always been to fight your enemy with superior numbers and better weapons. The reason armies loose battles is because they tried to duke it out with enemies armed with superior weapons. The Italian army drove British troops out of Libya because the British infantry were not armed with anti-tank weapons. Once the British counterattacked with tanks and armored cars it was the Italians who retreated. When the British were confronted with better German tanks they retreated. Luckily the Brits had America as an ally who supplied them with better tanks and the RAF became more numerous.
@@wbertie2604 But why would you want that hunkajunk the tank one places on ones front lawn says a lot about a man... just get a centurion and plonk her down in the front lawn hell of a statement if nothing else xD
NSU for Neckarsulm, a city. NSU once was the world's biggest producer of motorcycles..... in the fifties.^^ Their most popular car was NSU Prinz. The engine of a Prinz also powered the Münch motorcycles. NSU also made the Ro80 with the Wankel engine.
Springer design team might have been mildly stupid. Germany: "interleaved wheels allow for a smoother ride, making crew comfort better and aiming easier" Also germany: "yeah, let's put overcomplicated, expensive interleaved wheels on this unarmed drivable land bomb."
After a short passage in the comments to see the reactions about the T-34 I have to say or rather beg for two things. 1. Please invite the Laser Pig for your top and bottom 5. 2. A video or even better many videos with Squire and Laser Pig.
If you judge the goodness of a tank by its survival rate, than where you put the Tiger? Out of 1347, only 7 survived WWII. And only 4 of those are real, complete vehicles. Those survived because they captured by the allies. The other 3 are slapped together somewhat from the remains of a few dozen other tanks. So, the real survival rate ir 4 out of 1347. It is around .3%. Compared to this, the survival rate of the T-34 is outstanding. In reality it has one of the best survivability rate of any WWII tank.
@@mbr5742 Germany lost WWII almost at the beginning. But definitely lost in the second they declared war on the USA. The only person who was sane enough to know that a war against the economic power of the USA is (at that time) futile was Yamamoto. Germans were absolutely short sighted. Their military was poorly motorized, and because of a good reason: even at the start of Operation Barbarossa they already suffered fuel shortage. The whole plan was based a bunch of circumstancial conditions to succeed. The only chance to occupy Moscow was that the russians make absoluty no resistance, just run away constantly. In reality right after the first week the Red Army made the germans pay for all kilometers a huge cost. And the T-34 was a tank designed and built for being destroyed in huge numbers. They expected to lose at least 95% of all the pieces made. This is the main reason why most of them were built "poorly". Meanwhile the Tiger supposedly built to last. In reality the opposite happened. The only thing the russians should do was to build more T-34s the the germans destroy. They fulfilled this big time. If you count strictly the tanks only (no SPG, SPAAG, StuG, etc) the germans built fewer tanks in the whole WWII then the russians in 1944-45 only counting the T-34-85. The russians built almost as many heavy tanks then the germans Pz IVs. If you want to count mid to endwar vehicles, every 2 Panther have to face an IS-2 in the other side. (In reality the rate is even worse. For the 6557 Panther there were 3854 IS-2.) If you know anything from the late war tank battles, you should know that the Red Army always lose 2-3x the amount of tanks than the german forces. In the Battle of Debrecen the germans lost ~200 tanks (and 490 guns, practically the whole inventory of the germans in the area) compared to the ~500 tanks (and 1,656 guns) lost by the russians. And that battle was a decisive russian strategic victory. And the best in the whole: the Red Army started the whole Debrecen-Nagyvárad offensive without a pause after the taking of the Karpathian passes. The russians don't really cared about tank losses, because they could lose them. No big deal, there were more to come. I really don't understand why so many people try to defend the german vehicles, even if those had glaring design and manufacturing issues. There's always at least one excuse to those. The "unbeatable Tiger" was so unbeatable that only a few left to told a story. They were beaten, hard. Even in the Western Front, where no real heavy tanks were to challenge them.
T34: the number of tanks it took to take out one German tank. T34: the minutes you’ll survive in battle. T34: the number of people it took to build it. Total. For all of them.
I was doubtful about this chap's knowledge, but when he pulled out that pipe I gained complete faith in him.
lol.
was thinking the same thing
A pipe is knowledge, not enough pipe smokers nowadays.
He plays a lot of war thunder he know a good bit about some of these tanks
@@joshuambodie9410 true tho, just find it funny he acts like that
"Good for killing tanks."
"Infantry?"
"Nope."
That made me actually laugh out loud.
@John Thomas break you duck?
@John Thomas - You should work in a movie theater, you're so good at projection
@@Red_Beard2798 lmao that's a good one, I'm stealing it
@@Red_Beard2798 oooof
@@Red_Beard2798 lmao he got silenced
Kudos to Squire for fitting Lazerpig's hour-long T-34 rant into more convenient 5-minutes schedule
Was about to say this
Literally if you remove the tangents that aren’t related to the subject in his videos they’d be half as long
@@mr.tropical7116 but the tangents are what make them entertaining. Everyone can say a fact, only lazerpig can talk about the 1924 railway act on a video about why the crusader is not as bad as you think
@@younoobskiller well yeah you have a point but I’d rather hear a somewhat entertaining fact about the mark iv tank than a rant about how living in the trenches is similar to passing out drunk and suffering from a hang over.
@@mr.tropical7116 IT FEELS LIKE DEATH
DEATH HAS COME
I didn't realize how small the original T34 was, until Squire stood next to it.
That's why Bill wasn't in that bit, because he'd tower over the tank.
Ya, me too. That turret really is tiny AF, ive heard and seen a ton of people say it was tiny and sucked but you can really see it here. Nearly anything looks tiny with "the Cheiftan" standing near.
I too was quite surprised about the T-34’s small size. In fact, I thought it was some sort of mock-up, scaled down to a kid-friendly size.
The Soviet Cold War tanks were also small, substantially smaller than Western tanks, I think around 80% of weight. I’d read about the size difference, but I never really understood it until I saw a photo of an American M60 next to a T-55 (or a T-6x). The M60 looked huge, looming over the Soviet vehicle. They looked like they had completely different purposes, rather than both being main battle tanks! I have never come across the photo again, sadly.
@@gerardlabelle9626 especially when imagining the gun, its in that tiny t34 turret!! Then the main guns in the later tanks you mentioned, ya no room!😳😉💯
@@mongoose4117I think the crew’s efficiency must have suffered when buttoned up for a while. How much could they have spread their limbs, jammed in so tight?
he feels like a skechy used car salesman trying to get rid of some of the clunkers still left in the lot.
*slaps tank* boy, can this baby ever hold onto its crew while it's on fire
Have to admire this young Lad and the courage it took to wear such trousers in public.
what do you mean, they look sicc
@@adwai1h653 Sick, indeed, as if they had a disease or mortal condition. So sick, they could require medical intervention and isolation.
Nuts`n Bolt trousers
More than 40 years ago, in California, the US husband of our relative that had moved there from Germany wore such trousers. "Yes, they are horrible, european clothing is way more elegant, but my customers (he sold valves to farmers for their irrigation systems) require that I wear such clothing. With european clothes I would be an untrustworthy outsider".
Looks like he stuffed a rolled up sock in there...unless...
Just imagining David Fletcher and Squire doing a tank video together. David's dry humour and Squire's antics together would be a fun watch.
This
0:11 girl in the background- “oh no they are here again.”
*grabs radio* “I need a perimeter around the building right now Squire is here”
The second she saw them. She started calling in for backup xDDD
Bill: "It did confuse me slightly, when the italians got their hands on it, they "developed it" by putting a four cylinder Fiat engine in it"
Squire: "so it went from bumbling around the English countryside to breaking down in the italian one"
That moment was comedy gold.
Funny, but the reality is that the a far more reliable engine than the British one. Just saying.
he forgot to mention it had 4 reverse gears and one forward gear
Fix It Again Tony
@@grumpyoldman-21 it's not a French motor
Glad to see someone other than Laserpig point out some of the many flaws with the T34.
Laserpig was hardly the first...
@@TheChieftainsHatch
Ah! But was he the first outrageously drunk barnyard animal from the North of England to do so? Checkmate.*
*Please prove me wrong by finding a military enthusiast chicken or something.
@@TrollOfReason I must admit that he was, and that cannot be competed with
@@TheChieftainsHatch It is true that he was not the first, but it is difficult to repel the impression that the specific arguments used by squire in the film are very similar or even identically presented as in LazerPig video. Anyway i don't consider the t34 a good tank after seeing the attempts to leave it by hatch in your video : P
The M-4 and Pzkpfw. III / IV were far inferior to the T-34 . Just due to their ideology they rant the T-34
It's sad that a lot of people that don't watch Squire are going to be confused and possibly think he's serious for most of the video.
I actually looked him up after his top 5 tanks video ages ago and have been watching him since.
Weirdest thing that ever happened to me was at Tankfest 2019 I was there and as we were leaving I looked out in the crowd and saw him it was actually surreal I had to do a reality check after that.
It's strange that event was the only time I've ever seen a youtuber in public.
@@nesyboi9421 I was at 2019's as well! They had a meet'n'greet going as well, it was the Squire, The Chieftain and IronArmenian. All were wonderful to meet.
@@FireWarrior2013 I only met Iron I was walking out when I saw squire in the crowd lol
Yup
gotta say squire, i wasnt digging the bits , until the t-34 bit, the non-stop camera movement, you shitting on the tank, was glorious mate, great job , glory to the queen
Go watch the LazerPig video he lifted the talking points from, its that but an hour long and with a drunk pig.
@@HumphreyHorsehead I really hope you're getting paid to do promotion.
LazerPig has the same sources as everyone else. Squire doesn't need to lift from anyone, he's got Tank Museum people right there to advise. They probably have a lot of the docs Pig referred to anyway.
@@HumphreyHorsehead The tank is 80 years old champ. I’m pretty sure all of this was well known about the tank before lazerpig did a video on it.
This video was very much like lazer pig’s and probably a deliberate send you of it due it’s somewhat revisionist (albeit not entirely unjustified) take on the T34. Basically I think squire was engaging in some satire
@@xmlthegreat The way he touches on the points, the order in which he brings them up and the way he words them is almost a 1:1 dead ringer for LazerPig's video.. just excised down for brevity.
What he forgot to mention, is that they don't only make sketches, they actually make really good promotional content (sometimes better that the sketches itsefl, but i didn't say that :D)
Who doesn't love a good overdubbed Sean Connery impression?
How nice to see a young Lindy Beige in action.. (just kidding, but wow did he imitate him well in my opinion) :)
Wonderful video as usual from The Tank Museum.
Lindy beige meets Gary Numan
Good, I was not the only one that got reminded of Lindybeige. ;D
@@terraflow__bryanburdo4547 Of course - well reminded - listening now to Numan's 'b' side to his biggest hit, "Tanks" - later followed by "Our friends hybrid-electric", ^oo^
Now that would certainly be a collaboration!!
Very British humor - and you can see in the comments exactly who gets it and who does not. As an American who visits frequently I about half get it. No complaints here.
It’s not mate, they are muppets
I’m British and I ‘get it’ I just don’t find it very funny… perhaps I’m too old!
@@flapsmcginty4039 I’m British and in my late teens and I don’t find him that funny in this however I quite enjoy his channel videos perhaps this one isn’t as entertaining because they were asked to do this and didn’t have as much time to come up with some better jokes as a result
They could do the remake of 'Bottom', or 'The Young Ones'.
@@eddiecobbett why, they’ll never be better than the originals!
Squire needs an epic moustache to go with the Victorian era voice.
"The Carden-Loyd carrier, wich is perfectly good for bumbling around in the English coutry side... in peacetime." My thoughts exactly.
David Willey doesn't like it when we trash talk interwar tank design, but really, even with the technology of the time, a vehicle that was proof against rifle caliber ammo, faster than a running man and equiped with a gun capable of killing a WWI tank from a safe distance in a at least two man turret shouldn't be that hard. It really shouldn't.
DW wasn't overly complimentary about the Caro Veloce.
nobody really wanted to pay for an all mechanized division, so many of the interwar stuff was half measures, either the US's mechanized horses, or the german panzer 1's, or these tanklets, it made you look impressive without spending an impressive amount. its only after hitler was blitzing across europe and africa showing off the few mechanized divisions they had that everybody got serious, except for the italians, they never got serious
Well problem was, those tankettes is that they were created to solve a WWI problem and that was the problem, they werent designed to fight other tanks as much to act as mobile machinegun nests holding breaches in the trench lines until the infantry arrived.
Japan used a lot of then but then again, they were used in China mostly and would not be particular in danger, the Pacific didnt lend itself to armored warfare so a very light tank armed with anti-infantry was a good match ... but since we talking about Japan here they were used in Khalkhin Gol against anti-tank weapons with the expected results.
Excellent Bottom 5. And great to see the early T34/76 getting a roasting, seeing as it was out there in real numbers for a time. Yes, the later T34 was much better, but that seems to have fostered the idea that the T34 was a good tank from the start.
The T-34s reputation is mostly based on two things:
Early encounters by German infantry armed mostly with 3.7cm AT guns and German tanks armed with a mix of high-velocity 3.7cm and medium-velocity 5cm guns.
How their large numbers resulted in there always being T-34s to continue overrunning German positions in the late war.
(The video bumps up against one of the best tank related "the common wisdom is wrong" bits: T-34s and Shermans did end up taking each other on in Korea and, contrary to the stock 'the Sherman sucked and the T-34 was great' idea, the T-34s had their asses kicked.)
Added Fun Fact about the T34 gun: the early war anti-tank shells generally used by the USSR had a nitrocelluose primer, so the T34 guns were probably weaker in reality than they should have been on paper until British and American shipments started making up for Russia's logistical failures.
I wish I could speak with certainty on that, but the USSR was so proud of its ammunition production that it forbade a full analysis until decades after the wars.
Yea but British cordite was made of nitro cellulose and nitroglycerin, nitro cellulose is called gun cotton and it's a fine low explosive to use as a primary
Funny thing about the T-34; a lot of the quality of the tank depended on where it was built. There were like, three factories known for putting out *really* good T-34s, and quite a few that were known for...rather inferior productions. IIRC; akin to arriving on the field with cracks in the armor or along weld lines just from the train ride.
Clicked on this video faster than the German blitzkrieg
Yes. I clicked faster than Chic and Hen was cancelled.
FAST AS THE WIND THE INVASION HAS BEGUN
@@dougstubbs9637 but not as fast as the 21st Army Group breakout?
@@dougstubbs9637 but not as fast as the 21st Army Group breakout?
Clicked faster than the Japanese could commit a war crime
sounds like someone has seen Lazerpig's T34 video. Overall, I love seeing these guys in their element
Honestly, the T-34 deserves some hate, it was a pretty bad tank
@@Eire_Aontaithe Hate? Why would any tank deserve hate?
@@OltsuSuomesta Because it was bad ? Because it was death trap for the crew ?
@@Eire_Aontaithe Ya I agree. I never understood how bad the T34 was untill I saw lazerpig's video on it. I knew there where short cuts, but it never clicked to me how many there where.
@UCrKQFYzmDg5yLznOMGrg1pw winning doesnt make it good. The Sherman also won and was better in every way except the gun was marginally worse.
For example, the survival rate for the crew when a Sherman got hit was 80%, on a T-34 it was 15% on a good day.
A very serious Historian, giving a very serious (and Family friendly) Perspective, on some of the more "interesting" Tanks.
The T34 is a great example of an incredibly well designed tank, but built awful. They cut so many corners in design and practicality for the crew that it severely diminished the tank.
It wasn't incredibly well designed, since they cut so many corners in design and practicality for the crew that it severely diminished the tank.
It had massive shot traps all around the turret, the suspension was very bumpy, the tank could not shoot after stopping, since it bounced back and forth, the crew needed some time for the tank to stabilize, wasting valuable seconds. The transmission gearbox broke down very often, or got stuck in one gear, the fuel tank was inside the crew compartment, so any hits to it would be devastating. The hot spent shell casings were landing on the floor and the crew stepped and tripped on them, the optics were bad, etc.
But all that didn't matter, because there were so many of them.
They actually did design the T-34M, which fixed many of the problems. But they could not convert the production lines to start building the T-34M, because they needed to keep the production of the T-34 going, as they were losing so many tanks so fast.
And a lot of the production defects are thanks to one of the many Soviet tractor factories deciding to see how quickly they could throw the thing together.. some even had polished metal for mirrors in their periscopes, while others didn't have one at all
@@TheArtilleryman makes the term ' made by lowest bidder' to be an understatement
They had to to get them out fast enough. The Red Army lost 20,000 tanks in 1941, and they had to overhaul the German numerical advantage to be able to fight back on such a vast length of front. They planned for heavy attrition, more than anyone else planned for the attrition which happened, which meant needing to get monthly output up at all costs to replace losses and grow the force.
Well, when Comrade Stalin demands huge numbers of tanks RIGHT NOW…we’re gonna have to make this a rush job.
I love this comic approach to Tank Chats. I'm a Yank, and this Squire and his friend seem British, so maybe that's why I don't know of them, but they get serious points about tanks across in a brilliantly hilarious way. I laughed and learned at the same time. (When the Soviet soldier clocked Squire for bad mouthing the T-34, which I've never heard bad mouthed before, I myself was floor with hilarity.)
"Seem British" - Understatement of the year
LOL.. Squire to Richard Smith OBE.. what a transition.
"Springer" (Hopper) ist what the germans call the Knight in a chess set (Bishop is Läufer or Runner, Rook is Turm or tower, Queen is Dame / Lady, King is König)
In the vehicles defence - it would NOT have been driven to a place where the enemy could shoot at it by a driver. The driver would dismount well before that and the thing radio controlled to the target while sitting safely in a StuG
NSU is the shortcut for Neckarsulm. The city where the company was located (A bit like MAN - Maschinenfabrik Augsburg Nürnberg - maschine manufacturers Augsburg Nürnberg)
Bravo you made me laugh. Great misdirection. I would love a bit on why the Valiant is the best tank ever produced.
4:09. Is it just me but the Chieftain/Challenger turret looks so gooooooood and …. Tank like.
It's so great that when I look at it I go, "Yup. That's a tank alright. Good when things look so much like what they are. Tank, in this case."
I enjoy the Historian charachter lol.
A fun collaboration with Lindybeige is in order. The humor and styles would mesh well. Be like the Brittish, History-themed Abbot and Costello act. I wanna see it. 😁
With Bill there, surely more like The Goodies? Bill as Tim Brooke-Taylor, Lindybeige as Graeme Garden, Squire as Bill Oddie? "Do do do the funky Sherman"
Probably the best "T34 was Rubbish" slant ive heard
Have you heard of LazerPig?
@@HumphreyHorsehead yes we've all seen that video
@@HumphreyHorsehead i have now!
@@HumphreyHorsehead That video is terrible.
@@Kyle-gw6qp Good counterpoint
Well this was the crossover I didn't know I needed!
Two types of comments:
1: I find squire funny
2: this isn't funny therefore nobody else should be able to watch it, watching this offended me so much I'm writing to my MP and my nan died because of it..
Boomers.....
It's kind of sad some of the comments
This is by far the best crossover since some mad man stuck 5 welded car engines in a Sherman FireFly
Squire, you wonderful animal.
a fellow man of culture I see
0:25 "remember this is a family friendly channel so obviously no swearing" as we rate the bottom 5 machines designed specifically to maim, kill and destroy. Because we can teach the kids about killing machines but naughty words are a no-no.
Squire is so funny these “episodes” are what I look forward to the most on TH-cam. This is a fantastic channel.
The Squire is very funny when he does this. I practically enjoy the comedy these two give.
I can’t tell you how much it made me smile to see this cross over between two of my fave channels! Thank you!!
Unexpected! But awesome. It's just about the only thing funnier than Mr. Fletcher's scalding commentary.
And for a moment I was expecting them to list the top 5 tanks with the best bottoms.....
How he lunged down in those trousers and didn’t accidentally crush his Betty Swollacks with how unbelievably tight there were is a mystery.
You guys have been watching Lazerpig. Good on ya mates. 👏 You should do a colab when he gets back. Love your comedy, Solid Gold. I can never figure out if Bill is really tall, or Olly is really short, or both.
Excellent points on the T34. People forget all of these well documented flaws.
"Bottom Stanks" finally the hard hitting humor I've been wanting.
T34/85 still didn't have a turret basket. During the Korean war it was cannon fodder agianst Pershings and Easy Eight Shermans..
I laughed so much when he said that t-34/85 was the best tank in the world, after getting punched in the face.
yeah!!.. oh.. that was my comment..
@@efreitorsroul9332it was…yes…
Thanks for this. Got lucky and opened TH-cam just as it was posted.
Never realized Bill was a giant
It would be fun to have a compilation of 'can both Chieftan and Bill fit in this tank at the same time?'. For the Caro Veloce, I'm not sure either of them would fit solo. Maybe Bill, as he's younger and more flexible, provided he's had some expert yoga instruction beforehand.
I think Squire watched the LazerPig video on the T-34
Not gonna lie, didn't really watch this channel, but these guys def made me a regular. Keep it up guys. You are hilarious 😂!!!
You two made me laugh so hard! Best video y'all have done! Love the punch and blood off the nose! Well done!
I just wish the tank museum had a small room called the "Frank Museum", with pictures of various people, famous or not, called Frank. like Frank N. Furter, Frankenstein, Anne Frank, Frank the repairman (just around the corner of your local dentist's office)
One of my colleages caught NSU in Singapore in the seventies!
I've had it, not pleasant!
None specific urethritis.... a shot of Pen V used to do the trick.....
Loved how the pissed off Russian Officer gave Squire a fat lip for bad mouthing the T-34.
The crossover no asked for but we all needed it
Squire is just the next incarnation of Blackadder and you CANNOT convince me otherwise.
9:22 sounds like your own suspension is on the blink, Squire!
So glad you guys got Squire to come!
The role the AEC armoured cars filled was the heavy support element of AC units. Not as fast as the others, but they gave a better anti-armour option should they run into mechanized forces. Also note that while the Mk I only carried AP rounds for its 2lbr, the Mk II did carry HE, (and honestly was quickly replaced by the 75mm armed Mk III).
@0:03 IMHO that was Young Ones/Bad News type humour. Nice to see a fresh approach to this. Refering to the info boards was amusing too. Good job. Thanks.
These guys are great, their videos are hilareous!
Great to see squire back here, Great job chaps!
MOVE ASIDE LAD, IRISH MAN COMING IN HOT TO WATCH HIS FAVOURITE BRIT
Is not "Squire", Chris Squire🎶, but I agree in ALL points 😊✌🏻✌🏻
Different take on the subject with the added silliness... Well done.
God, love to travel from the States to see the collection someday. Thanks for all the TH-cam content, since in the meantime it's the next best thing :)
A surprise to be sure ... but a welcome one!
I'm glad you two were able to sneak in. Brilliant that you got a camera operator, too.
Good job though, very entertaining. Y'all have a gift with the absurd.
I think the short-barreled t-34/KV-1 abomination in the back at 8:28 would be my #1 worst tank
Encredible what mirrors can do
Thank you for giving us more Squire, Tank Museum!
We need Bill to try The Chieftains, "The Tank is on Fire" emergency evacuation drill.
Or Squire in those trousers - just as hard to get out of one, I bet.
@@wbertie2604 LOL!
I love the collaboration between these two channels!
When a machinegun doubles as an antitankgun, you ought to know you're in trouble
squire is my top 2nd youtuber. it was so funny watching this you guys made my day
I see Squire has taken to the Lazerpig view of the T34
You two make excellent videos, thank you.
Always a pleasure with these two
I know I’m late to the game but you guys are great. However I love the springer. Best tank ever because I wasn’t in it!
Now he's truly made it.
Squire was at Bovington lads! Proper chap he is too. And a nice surprise for these two to appear at The Bovington Tank Museum and all! And above all, this was very funny.
They did a Top 5 Tanks a few years back.
@@whatsoperadoc7050 I think that was around Tankfest, when I ended up next to him at the burger bunker, handing him the ketchup. Heard that wonderful voice say "hey chap, would you be so kind to hand me the bottle after you're done?" and was like WAIT A SECOND xD
@@HistoryGameV Did you reply "yeeeees" in *that* voice?
@@EmyrDerfel Sadly didn't have the mental quickness to do that. Just said "sure" and looked for a moment, then asked him if he was Squire. He said yes and shook my hand. xD That weekend was crazy anyway since I went there with Military History Visualized, Military Aviation History and the Chieftain...and met TIK and Lindybeige. All just sitting together with ME at a table and talking. Crazy day.^^
The mad lads finally did it... Some legendary comedy, there.
I didn’t know the Soviets lost 45,000 T34’s during the war, they very brave young men and women.
The Germans found a few of them and added cupolas, radios and balkenkreuze. Neato!
Quite a few of those will be the same tanks I expect, knocked out once, welded up and put back into action
@@zxbzxbzxb1 After hosing the blood and guts from the inside.
@@terraflow__bryanburdo4547 Yes, people can get hurt in wars 🙁
They didn't have any choice but to be 'brave'.
Absolutely spiffing top-hole wizard presentation Old Chap......mouthful of tea went over keyboard when Ivan gave you a bit of a slap there! :)
Squire, your "historian's outfit" is very Patrick Troughton.
I can’t believe it’s been more than 2 years and this collab never appeared on my feed, damned algorithm
is Bill getting ever taller, or is Squire just .. erm... staying the same ? :D
Either way, he could easily kick himself in the pants for not being around when 'The Young Ones' were casting.
The fact is, even the worse tank or armored car in the world is still a terror to the infantry. An armored car is fine for scouting, you are out in front of your army looking for the enemy, when you see him you write down what you see and head back to HQ. If you see a tank you don;t fight it, you get out of sight and head back to HQ. The secret to victory has always been to fight your enemy with superior numbers and better weapons. The reason armies loose battles is because they tried to duke it out with enemies armed with superior weapons. The Italian army drove British troops out of Libya because the British infantry were not armed with anti-tank weapons. Once the British counterattacked with tanks and armored cars it was the Italians who retreated. When the British were confronted with better German tanks they retreated. Luckily the Brits had America as an ally who supplied them with better tanks and the RAF became more numerous.
I would like a tank for my homestead please. Any tank will do. It's really just for the aesthetics!
If you live in a UK terraced house, the Caro Veloce would be perfect.
@@wbertie2604 But why would you want that hunkajunk the tank one places on ones front lawn says a lot about a man... just get a centurion and plonk her down in the front lawn hell of a statement if nothing else xD
@@ogscarl3t375 me? God no. M29 Weasel for me, please. Tracked, great in snow, floats, cheaper to run than a BMP. BMP has more luggage space, though.
NSU for Neckarsulm, a city. NSU once was the world's biggest producer of motorcycles..... in the fifties.^^ Their most popular car was NSU Prinz. The engine of a Prinz also powered the Münch motorcycles. NSU also made the Ro80 with the Wankel engine.
Don't forget the Kettenkrad. ;)
Now I know for a fact that T-34 was rubbish! 😀
Well done Squire!
Only the 76mm. The 85 was the cat's meow. (Or is that a Panther?)
The Germans didn't think it was rubbish
@@zxbzxbzxb1 yes they thought it was more than rubbish
Tank being adequate for its combat role and tank being NOT the one you'd like to be in if you had a choise are properties that can overlap.
Springer design team might have been mildly stupid.
Germany: "interleaved wheels allow for a smoother ride, making crew comfort better and aiming easier"
Also germany: "yeah, let's put overcomplicated, expensive interleaved wheels on this unarmed drivable land bomb."
Squire are always hilarious
10:03 a great demonstration of a t34 suspension by Squire
After a short passage in the comments to see the reactions about the T-34 I have to say or rather beg for two things.
1. Please invite the Laser Pig for your top and bottom 5.
2. A video or even better many videos with Squire and Laser Pig.
I can’t think what part of this video made you think of lazer pig 🤣
@@somethingelse516 T-34 rant lol
@@nesyboi9421 I was being sarcastic lol
I love it! 😂😂 nice one!🍻🤓
If you judge the goodness of a tank by its survival rate, than where you put the Tiger? Out of 1347, only 7 survived WWII. And only 4 of those are real, complete vehicles. Those survived because they captured by the allies. The other 3 are slapped together somewhat from the remains of a few dozen other tanks. So, the real survival rate ir 4 out of 1347. It is around .3%. Compared to this, the survival rate of the T-34 is outstanding. In reality it has one of the best survivability rate of any WWII tank.
The Red Army won so they likely blew up fewer tanks late in the war
@@mbr5742 Germany lost WWII almost at the beginning. But definitely lost in the second they declared war on the USA. The only person who was sane enough to know that a war against the economic power of the USA is (at that time) futile was Yamamoto. Germans were absolutely short sighted. Their military was poorly motorized, and because of a good reason: even at the start of Operation Barbarossa they already suffered fuel shortage. The whole plan was based a bunch of circumstancial conditions to succeed. The only chance to occupy Moscow was that the russians make absoluty no resistance, just run away constantly. In reality right after the first week the Red Army made the germans pay for all kilometers a huge cost.
And the T-34 was a tank designed and built for being destroyed in huge numbers. They expected to lose at least 95% of all the pieces made. This is the main reason why most of them were built "poorly". Meanwhile the Tiger supposedly built to last. In reality the opposite happened. The only thing the russians should do was to build more T-34s the the germans destroy. They fulfilled this big time. If you count strictly the tanks only (no SPG, SPAAG, StuG, etc) the germans built fewer tanks in the whole WWII then the russians in 1944-45 only counting the T-34-85. The russians built almost as many heavy tanks then the germans Pz IVs. If you want to count mid to endwar vehicles, every 2 Panther have to face an IS-2 in the other side. (In reality the rate is even worse. For the 6557 Panther there were 3854 IS-2.)
If you know anything from the late war tank battles, you should know that the Red Army always lose 2-3x the amount of tanks than the german forces. In the Battle of Debrecen the germans lost ~200 tanks (and 490 guns, practically the whole inventory of the germans in the area) compared to the ~500 tanks (and 1,656 guns) lost by the russians. And that battle was a decisive russian strategic victory. And the best in the whole: the Red Army started the whole Debrecen-Nagyvárad offensive without a pause after the taking of the Karpathian passes.
The russians don't really cared about tank losses, because they could lose them. No big deal, there were more to come.
I really don't understand why so many people try to defend the german vehicles, even if those had glaring design and manufacturing issues. There's always at least one excuse to those. The "unbeatable Tiger" was so unbeatable that only a few left to told a story. They were beaten, hard. Even in the Western Front, where no real heavy tanks were to challenge them.
Great video. "What's safer than driving around in a bomb" (no.4) hahahahah
T34: the number of tanks it took to take out one German tank.
T34: the minutes you’ll survive in battle.
T34: the number of people it took to build it. Total. For all of them.
T34: Number of bruises every crew memeber gets per kilometer.
Wehraboo
I love the fresh perspective on the T-35/76. Fabulous.
Good commentary about all the ammo rolling around and the brittle armour