Alfa 156 - The best Alfa saloon ever?

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  • @aston-martin-internationalist
    @aston-martin-internationalist ปีที่แล้ว +26

    In a depressing world of copy/pasta SUVs and crossovers, this cuts even more of a dashing streak. Always loved these, such.a fresh design still.

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo ปีที่แล้ว +2

      An Alfa dealer will sell you a Tonale and tell you its just as good! 😂

    • @furiousdriving
      @furiousdriving  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      and they will be wrong!

  • @grayfool
    @grayfool ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They are very lovely. Far more interesting than most other rep boxes of the time.

  • @iainwilliams4226
    @iainwilliams4226 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My boss in my first jobb had one of those as a company car. Infinitely cooler than my self funded 1989 1.3L Vauxhall Belmont 😅 Thanks for the memories 😊

    • @nekite1
      @nekite1 ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember the Belmont as I had one briefly - probably the dullest car to drive ever.

  • @CauliflowerMcPugg
    @CauliflowerMcPugg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a red 2001 GTA with tan Momo interior, beautiful multi spoke mags and the Q system gearbox. She could really move. I wish I still owned it 😔

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo ปีที่แล้ว

      The mention of the Momo seats reminds me: is the 156 with the (I forget what it's called) pack, one of the last mass-production vehicles to offer a wood-rimmed steering wheel as factory standard?

    • @furiousdriving
      @furiousdriving  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      quite possibly, cant think of anything later

  • @azimuth2142
    @azimuth2142 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wouldn't mind an Alfa but they are stupidly expensive right now

  • @stephenwestley1017
    @stephenwestley1017 ปีที่แล้ว

    Id have one over a bmw audi without giving it a second thought. The best front of any car of that era

  • @zzhughesd
    @zzhughesd ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmmmm after owing the money 10 odd 156 and 2 Tempra. 5 Dedras. I’d say. Yes.

  • @georgepom328
    @georgepom328 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still prefer the look of the 164 and 159

  • @jasonandreoli4135
    @jasonandreoli4135 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    My wife and I daylied a V6 for around 3 years on our 100mile round trip commute. Yes it had a few issues from time to time but nothing serious or worth worrying about compared to the joy we got every single day and that polished chromed inlet manifold even made me smile when it broke down. We never should have let it go.

    • @426baron
      @426baron ปีที่แล้ว +8

      3 years later I am still suffering from letting my beloved V6 Sportwagon go. I can barely watch Alfa content and long for the joyous screams of its fabulous engine.

    • @zzhughesd
      @zzhughesd ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Dailied. Hard spell. Dailyied. Daily-ied

    • @stephenbrookes7268
      @stephenbrookes7268 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I just drove from Aston University to Reading, about 100 miles. My V6 used half a tank of E5. I love the sound it makes, but do miss my 2.4 jtd for long runs.

    • @Mr330d
      @Mr330d ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stephenbrookes7268 half a tank on 100 miles? That’s disgusting 😂

    • @stephenbrookes7268
      @stephenbrookes7268 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Mr330d it has done about 300 miles on a full tank. I'll just have to put my right foot on a diet I guess.

  • @derbigpr500
    @derbigpr500 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    This is one of those cars that feel like it's been developed by people who really know a lot about driving and what makes a great car. So, the complete opposite of 99% of modern cars.

  • @paulwhite9040
    @paulwhite9040 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I ran a 2001 V6 from 42k to 100k miles, including across that harsh winter a few years ago when I saw -14 degrees C when starting it in the morning. It was utterly reliable, a brilliant, brilliant car. Lovely seats, great styling (mine was silver, side skrts, but no spoilers), teledial wheels, beautiful noise, the engine was so smooth that it felt like it ran on double cream. I think these are absolutely underrated and will, sadly, not be remembered with anything like the credit they deserve.

    • @Vylkeer
      @Vylkeer ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Were the skirts an original optional or aftermarket? Alfas are more reliable than people think they are.

    • @stefancgxz7799
      @stefancgxz7799 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Vylkeerafaik only the GTA and TI edition have sideskirts. Any other edition should have aftermarket sideskirts.

    • @Vylkeer
      @Vylkeer 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stefancgxz7799 thx.

  • @stephenbrookes7268
    @stephenbrookes7268 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I just got my 4th 156 and I think my 10th Alfa. This time I decided to completely go for it and got a V6.
    I have never had an unreliable 156. I could wax lyrical about the styling, but you have said it all.
    Whatever anyone says this car always puts a smile on the driver's face.

    • @stephenbrookes7268
      @stephenbrookes7268 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@richardjohnson3463 I had a GT with that engine. It seemed ok. Some nutter ran into it on a roundabout. Apparently you don't have to give way to the right if you are a self entitled little pr...
      I never got to find out why this engine has such a bad press. Do tell!

  • @Andy-eo3mq
    @Andy-eo3mq ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How about replacing the beetle with a 156? Then you could tell your wife that you have another practical car on the fleet, lol! 😉

    • @furiousdriving
      @furiousdriving  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      it could happen..

    • @Andy-eo3mq
      @Andy-eo3mq ปีที่แล้ว

      @@furiousdriving keeping fingers crossed!! 🤞🏻🤞🏻

  • @shakman877
    @shakman877 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely love 156s and I have owned a few. But the facts in your video are incorrect. The 2.4s are belt driven, not chain. They do not suffer from belt/chain stretch. They are extremely reliable engines.
    The model in your video, the 2.0 JTS is the worst engine in the line up. It's absolute dogsh*t. Basically a GM reworked twin spark engine. Massively unreliable and generally useless. You should have specified there were 3 twin spark 4 cylinders, then GM came along and ruined the engine line up by replacing the wonderful 2.0 twin spark with the 2.0 JTS garbage. Practically, the best of the bunch is probably the 1.8 TS. But the Busso V6 will really always be the best engine.

  • @keithm.404
    @keithm.404 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Alfa Romeo 156's are like good-looking narcissistic bi-polar women. Great fun to have, but eventually they will break your heart. That's why i had three of them over the years.

  • @Lot76CARS
    @Lot76CARS ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Matt, these are such a pretty cars and so well received when new.. but I recall the Alfa Romeo programme for leasing company staff back in the day to get them to promote the car.., sadly, the number of breakdown and (electrical) faults had the opposite affect. Would I have one? Of course, the survivors will be long since sorted by now! One of the prettiest mid size saloons EVER designed. Worth buttons, but surely this has to change?

  • @maxidyne
    @maxidyne ปีที่แล้ว +7

    One of the nicest saloon cars ever. Styling is superb, interior ace. Only one remark: the reviewed car has one thing I personally I don't like: the spoiler on the boot. Looks out of place on this car. Great review Matt!

  • @matthewgodwin3050
    @matthewgodwin3050 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This was just like an episode of Antiques Roadshow. I'd like to bet that if Matt was asked to describe his wife, he wouldn't be half as passionate as he is describing the Alfa Romeo 156. What a great car.

    • @alfaromeu
      @alfaromeu ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I laughed really hard 🤣😂😂 great comment

  • @robterry1663
    @robterry1663 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I currently daily a 156 Sportwagon 1.8 T Spark, it’s a series 1 with the slightly different dashboard to the one featured and with a beautiful tan leather interior, had 58k on the clock from new when I bought it, currently only on 70k. Out of all the cars I’ve owned it’s definitely my favourite, I’m struggling to think what I’ll eventually replace it with

    • @schnuffelpuff3923
      @schnuffelpuff3923 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have a 2002 1.8TS with the facelift engine and interior (blue Momo leather spec) but the awesome oldschool exterior as a summer car and I absolute love it. I'm currently looking to put a Giulia QV next to it :P

  • @joshbacon8241
    @joshbacon8241 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why were the all-wheel-drive Q4 variants and jacked-up Crosswagon variant never built in right-hand-drive, and only built in left-hand-drive?

    • @furiousdriving
      @furiousdriving  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      all wheel drive was very popular in mountain parts of Europe so there were lots of LHD continental Europe only 4x4 cars (BMW did a few as well), but UK market for them wasnt there. Now BMW, Mercedes, Audi all do all wheel drive estates in RHD

  • @Grimwriggler
    @Grimwriggler ปีที่แล้ว +7

    an Alfa is always a happy place Matt.., my favorite alfa saloon is the Pre facelift 166

    • @iainbradley2847
      @iainbradley2847 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had a 156 and since got a 166, both Twin Spark 2 litres. Problem with the 156 was floor rust and an electric sunroof which would not close.It took weeks to get it sorted. Not a great recipe in West Scotland! BUT I always noticed how effortlessly it handled motorway speeds + and was accorded respect in the outside lane. Its successor was the gorgeous and much under-rated Peugeot 406 coupe, an even more capable and economical high speed cruiser but never as easy to progress in the outside lane. Coming to the point;- the 166 has the most sumptuous interior finish, fantastic seats - the most comfortable I have ever experienced and clad in the finest Italian leather, 6 speed gearbox and for my money, in Mk 1 form, the most achingly elegant body. Drag coefficient quoted 0.30 or 0.31 but then it has the " advantage " of length over the 156 and inherited the same superb suspension system. ( Reputedly it was high ups' disdain for the original Lancia Kappa set up that delayed the 166 launch till after the 156 ). Matt did a superb report on the 166 3.2 Busso but for my money the lighter, smaller 2.0L Twin Spark gets the accolade as the best looking Alfa saloon. Mind you with the 156, 159 and Guilia as rivals you would happily waltz out of the ball with any one of them!

  • @corruptor911
    @corruptor911 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    That unmistakable t.spark is actually a JTS engine, which is not the same 😂 cant believe the comment section is not raving

    • @davidmacleod3442
      @davidmacleod3442 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That and the reference to a stretched timing chain 😂 apoplectic 🤬🤣

  • @MilanStojakov
    @MilanStojakov ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this video, and couldn't come at better time as I'm looking to buy a 156 as my second car!

  • @paultaylor9652
    @paultaylor9652 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video on a beautiful car Matt. Give me an Alfa of this era over a boring German equivalent any day.

  • @fhwolthuis
    @fhwolthuis ปีที่แล้ว +12

    What a nice car, Matt! I remember my first drive in a 156 in November 1997. It was a revelation! I only owned a 147 JTD 8v myself but I still miss it. Those 8 valve diesels had a 5 speed box, by the way. Don't miss the cost of all the suspension parts I had to replace on a yearly basis but otherwise it was a very sturdy car. You should talk to the owner of this one and add it to your fleet if he ever sells it! ❤️🍀

    • @furiousdriving
      @furiousdriving  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I dont think hes going to be selling it any time soon!

    • @fhwolthuis
      @fhwolthuis ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@furiousdriving maybe sending him an "equestrian present" might convince him? 🐴😂😉

  • @roverchap
    @roverchap ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've owned a 2001 2.0TS Lusso for the past two years and done 17,000 miles. Now showing 125,000. I have had no breakdowns or warning lights but I have had to renew the rear suspension, a couple of wheel bearings and had the floor pans welded. The transmission is getting a bit noisy but I guess all that it acceptable given the age and mileage. It's just such a beautiful car which looks better with each passing year, surrounded as it is by the hideous bulky SUVs and saloons of today. These cars can still be picked up for buttons, crazy really.

  • @richardhargrave6082
    @richardhargrave6082 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I had a 156 SW and loved it, prettier than the saloon, I think
    The TS engine and steering were brilliant
    Wish I'd still got it
    The example here is a half facelift with the new interior and the original face.
    Ironically, the electrical issues that didn't really help the reputation were largely supplied by Bosch...
    I always say that an Alfa is for driving, not drinking in, so why would you need cupholders?
    If yu need a drink, you stop and sit outside, looking at its wonderful lines
    The Giulia is a worthy successor
    I keep thinking about getting another

  • @pereldh5741
    @pereldh5741 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This sold like cupcakes here in Sweden too. For Scandinavia, the heating, headlights and rustproofing was really good.
    Interestingly, the 156 looked best without skirts & spoilers.. so clean!
    (I.e… your’e wrong 😊)
    The 5-cyl was of course the Fiat engine, and it was always 20v or 4 valve/cyl. Unlike late 70’s Audi’s… Also the TwinSpark was based on the 1995cc Fiat Lampredi engine.
    Totally agree on the italian leather! Germans had a lot to learn there. My Fiat Coupe leather was super smooth & hard wearing, super quality.
    It looks like the steering wheel is at its least reaked position? Thats what I liked about it’s cousin (Fiat Coupe) - my 1st Fiat without italian driving position, loved it.

    • @Liban46227
      @Liban46227 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agreed the best looking the first series with the wooden steering and gear knob and wooden look console with the 15 inch teledial wheels. As per the brochure.

  • @paulie-Gualtieri.
    @paulie-Gualtieri. ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Still looks fresh and modern, great looking car indeed.

  • @r.whitt90
    @r.whitt90 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really enjoy your channel. I've just got my 156 twin spark back on the road, same spec as this one. Don't think I'll ever part with it now. Great review!

  • @carmanick
    @carmanick ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I agree that the Alfa is one of the best cars ever made. I had a 2002 Alfa 156 1.8 Lusso (phase 2 like this one), which has got to be the best version, with the origianl styling, but colour coded with the new interior design which really modernised it. Mine was pale green with tan leather and the 7 hole wheels. I had many years and it was very reliable. Should never have sold it and would buy it back in a heartbeat.
    The display in the middle would always fade if hot air was coming out the vents, my climate control was in Fahrenheit not celsius, and 'October' was spelt 'Oktober' despite everything else being in English! The window controls were also super sticky. The circular air vents were using in the Lotus models.
    The 2.0 JTS had 165 hp, it essentially replaced the 2.5 V6. the 2.4 JTD was also the first common rail diesel ever sold!
    A truly amazing car. By far one of the best cars ever made, so much attention to detail and so special for such a mainstream model. Should be celebrated and remembered more than it is! Hopefully your video helps with that.

  • @theautodelta
    @theautodelta ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A masterpiece from Alfa. I had the pleasure to drive my first 156 TS 2.0 back in summer of 2000 and kept it till 2008 in exchange of a 159 2.2 ti. I was hooked by the 156 virtues that in 2016 the holy grail of the 156 series a GTA was added in my garage.

  • @bri77uk1
    @bri77uk1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Beautiful cars to look at and drive. I've had two, a 2000 2.0 TS and a 2003 2.0 JTS Selespeed.
    A couple of points though - This is a first facelift car with the JTS not Twin Spark, so only 4 spark plugs here, but the extra power. To be honest I didn't notice much difference between the two in performance and think the TS was a sweeter engine.
    I preferred the interior of the pre-first-facelift, especially if, like mine, it had the wood wheel, gear knob and dash.
    Also I'm 99% sure that the boot badge does swing to reveal a key hole... Although that could have been the Spider I'm thinking of.

    • @schnuffelpuff3923
      @schnuffelpuff3923 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah, when the engine and interior faclift came in 2001 (i think? or 2002?) there was only the 1.6 and 1.8 as Twinspark engines. The keyhole in the boot might have been a early version as my 2002 with the facelift 1.8TS with facelift Momo leather interior doesn't have that

    • @FOXeye95
      @FOXeye95 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      my 97 one does turn the boot logo to reveal keyhole. @@schnuffelpuff3923

  • @donny2327
    @donny2327 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of the very finest late 20th C car designs. Not a big car in any way but it looks just so poised. I had one once. Had to. Loved it. The only thing that is missing on this example is the chrome Alfa grille? Great review.

  • @scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain
    @scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I knew a couple of people that had these and I got to valet one, a dark green example with a red leather interior and wood style steering wheel, it was rather lovely, he tried selling it but had no interest, so he gave it to the local church as a pool car for ferrying people about and they broke it within a month or two of ownership, wish at the time I had the cash I would have bought it outright! Another car I missed the boat with as yes I have been scouring marketplace not many examples near to Edinburgh that are either spares or repairs!!
    The other person I knew had a SW for a company car, best company car he had then the company replaced it with a Vectra Estate!

    • @furiousdriving
      @furiousdriving  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      these are super reliable if they are being loved, but you cant treat them like an old Civic and (as a pool car) no one give it the attention it needs or it will fail. Mine was serviced on the button, every 12,000 miles and never had a problem, although I was at the dealer at least twice a year!

  • @marklawton5753
    @marklawton5753 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi Matt just one point the JTS engine is not a Twin Spark engine it has four spark plugs not eight. Having owned saloon's and Sportagon's, twin Spark and JTS ( my current car) and all ALFA Red! The Twin spark engine is a much more sweeter engine the JTS is direct injection and has a somewhat odd beat to it, not as smooth as the twin spark. I have also found personally speaking that the sportwagon feel less nose heavy than the saloon, the wagon feels more balanced. I have never had a breakdown in a 156 but the suspension needs almost constant renewal. OMG and engine oil consumption in the Twin Spark it is around 1 litre per 1000 miles in the JTS its much more and if its run on the recommended Selenia racing oil as mine is, it is not only hard to find but also expensive £84.00 for 5 litres was the price I paid for the last can its not cheap either. But what a fantastic car! I have had a 156 as my main car for 20 years now and one day I will have to move over to something else. I don't want to think of that, it will be a very sad day indeed !

    • @furiousdriving
      @furiousdriving  ปีที่แล้ว

      I did say the JTS replaced the TS in 2002, so as this is an 03 thought that covered that!

    • @vojin54
      @vojin54 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@furiousdriving Yes but you said a couple of times in the video, t spark, for the starter motor sound for example :D

    • @furiousdriving
      @furiousdriving  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vojin54 it os the same starter, block and only stighyl modified head so I stand by it lol

  • @centrelinecadd
    @centrelinecadd 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just bought a gorgeous 2002 V6 manual in silver just as nice at least as this one. Cant wait for it to arrive, its currenty on the other side of Australia

  • @sinisalucic1996
    @sinisalucic1996 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful car. I will never sell mine. 2002 1.9 8v jtd with sport pack.

  • @stephenbrookes7268
    @stephenbrookes7268 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Please do note. If anyone gets a TS engined car and had only ever run ordinary cars. Check the oil every week. They burn oil, not a fault just a characteristic.

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo ปีที่แล้ว

      I find it very amusing that a 2L four-cylinder engine calls for 10W60! Delightfully characterful. 🙂

    • @furiousdriving
      @furiousdriving  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      1 litre per 1000 miles - and thats in the owners manual! Some use more, my 145 uses none

    • @stephenbrookes7268
      @stephenbrookes7268 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@furiousdriving A mate of mine didn't know this and his engine was deposited all over the M4. I am still waiting to see if my V6 is as thirsty for oil as it is for petrol. I was putting in 1/2l per 3 tanks full in my 1.8 TS. These cars certainly do have personalities.

    • @BlackLines
      @BlackLines ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes, mine died at 57k but it had an oil pickup issue. Quite a sad day when it happened, I'd still have the car now if it hadn't.

  • @ElgiNDuffeR
    @ElgiNDuffeR ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love the Alfa's Matt!!!!

  • @Bumper3D
    @Bumper3D ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I had a slightly older 156 2.5 V6 in a similar silver colour. A wonderful looking thing that was a blast to drive. And to be honest it was pretty reliable too and even in -20C winter weather it was a warm car with a great handling on the slippery roads. The only big flaw with it was that the floors rusted through even if it was barely over 12 years old back then. It also had pretty terminal rust on the chassis rails, in the scuttle panel and a few other places. Unheard of for someone that was driving 80s Peugeots before the Alfa! If it wasn't for the rust, I'd probably still be driving the lovely 156. It's just one of those cars that look and feel so good that it makes you want to drive around all the time! Also worth mentioning was the wood steering wheel and gear knob option that was a lovely retro touch. Thanks for the review video, brings back some good memories!

    • @buickmclean8163
      @buickmclean8163 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a 1.8 lusso , I agree about the wooden steering wheel , better than leather

  • @timhancock6626
    @timhancock6626 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We had a 156 2.4 JTD Sportwagon 150 10 valve. We did about 100,000 miles in three years, then my wife wrote it off in 2010. The 156 was accessible and affordable and stunning looking. We loved ours and had very little trouble. I still miss it. It was my fifth Alfa and sadly I haven't had one since

  • @zsoltpapp3363
    @zsoltpapp3363 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree that the 156 was one of the best looking saloon cars of the last decades (from this period, the Opel/Vauxhall B Vectra and the bmw e46 3 series were my other favorites). I dont like the rear wing on this particular car though, i think it looks a lot better without it.

  • @simonmason8582
    @simonmason8582 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mine needed a new catalyst at every MOT as it burned gallons of oil.

  • @willswheels283
    @willswheels283 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lovely car all round, I particularily like the sporty dash with those sunken clocks.
    Alfa certainly make their cars almost like an “art form”.
    I’ve wanted to try an Alfa for a while but I’m not sure I’m brave enough or got enough financially to buy a really good one.
    That one looks nice, if I was to buy an Alfa it would be one of these.
    Thanks for a great review Matt, enjoyed it.👍

  • @simonmason8582
    @simonmason8582 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's a DOOR mirror - "wing" mirrors went out in the 70's.

  • @stanislas4990
    @stanislas4990 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Congratulations for your beautiful Alfa Romeo 156. The front grill has to be in aluminium (as it is originally), but not black. It would be much better.
    I have own an Alfa Romeo 156 SW 2.5 V6 a long time ago, and it was one of the best cars i’ve ever had.

  • @PaddyWV
    @PaddyWV ปีที่แล้ว +1

    27 minutes? I'm guessing you enjoyed this? 😉

  • @philcreek74
    @philcreek74 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I ran a 2ltr twinny in the very rare Achilles blue. Had the side skirts and also the very big rear wing. Never let me down, I even drove down all the way to Milan for the Alfa Centenary.
    However the 156 did like to munch front wishbone bushes for breakfast...

    • @stephenbrowne4644
      @stephenbrowne4644 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had the same one in the rare blue!
      Absolutely lovely car looked so cool... Unfortunately rust got the better of it. But was the best car I've ever owned!
      Have a 145 now so still happy driving 😁

  • @mike_ctid_taylor
    @mike_ctid_taylor ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I owned a 2l Twin Spark Veloce and also the 2.5V6 Veloce . I loved the 156 and think it is the best Alfa saloon, just the best saloon. I saw the 156 at the motor show and that was my 'I must have one one day' moment. I hanker after a 156GTA now funds allowing.

  • @BlackLines
    @BlackLines ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I briefly owned a 2.0 T-Spark and I thought it was fantastic.. Black with nice chrome bits, black interior and the proper cloverleaf alloys ... I loved it until it died of oil starvation at only 57k (turns out it had an oil pickup issue). It made a very pretty driveway ornament for a couple of weeks until the scrapman arrived. Would definitely own another one now that I'm more mechanically inclined.

  • @timothyclapham936
    @timothyclapham936 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video Matt! A fantastic car and I love how enthusiastic you are when describing it!! I wholeheartedly agree with you btw!! From 1 Alfisti to another - keep up the good work!🙂

  • @felixlutticken5694
    @felixlutticken5694 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Back then my parents had a 156 sportwagon with the 2.5 V6 in black with red interior

  • @beaconriskmanagementlimite823
    @beaconriskmanagementlimite823 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There was also a 4 speed h pattern auto box from Aisin which was mated to the 2.5 V6 car . Bulletproof box too .

  • @ikhan5
    @ikhan5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My first car! I had a black 1.8TS which I kept for 7 years, and it was as reliable as any other car - nothing major went wrong with it (and I still miss it, what with the Cybox Exhaust). My brother had a grey facelift 2.0JTS Selespeed Veloce, which was a beast of a car, but plagued with electrical issues (Selespeed pump was also replaced once). The only downside to owning one was the cambelt which was supposed to be replaced every 72,000 miles/ 6 years, but was halved to 36,000 miles/ 3 years due to failing tensioners. Cost at specialists (with replacing the variator as well), was around £450, which was a lot of money every 3 years!
    PS, they were designated 932 and not 962....

  • @chrisbury4635
    @chrisbury4635 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was very fortunate to have worked for Fiat/Alfa Romeo when the 156 was launched 😎

  • @MajorKlanga
    @MajorKlanga ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great review. I had a 2.4 JTD and it was the best car I've ever owned. Smooth, comfortable yet fun and sharp. I sold it approaching 100,000 miles because things started failing. It was also plagued by the usual front suspension frailty. One thing I hated about it; changing the dipped beam bulb on the nearside was the most fiddly, frustrating job ever.

    • @simonhodgetts6530
      @simonhodgetts6530 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I remember that from my 156 - and it also used to get through sidelight bulbs alarmingly regularly - but changing the bulbs on my Giulietta is even worse - a bumper and wheel-arch liner loosened, battery moved, headlamp out job……I’m a dab hand at it now, but the first attempt took over 3 hours!

    • @lucylovitt9583
      @lucylovitt9583 ปีที่แล้ว

      Try doing a Mazda MX-5 headlight bulb....no different. Wheel off, liner out and impossible to see what you're doing.

  • @stefanomazzeo776
    @stefanomazzeo776 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've had a 156 since the year 2000; I call her the Millennium Falcon, had some work done on her last year and now she won't accept the radio code, any suggestions? I made a little video of her for my TH-cam channel.

    • @furiousdriving
      @furiousdriving  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s odd if it’s still the same code you’ve always used. You might need to send it off to someone who can reset the radio code

  • @DarjanBar
    @DarjanBar ปีที่แล้ว +1

    best review of the car I've seen so far!

  • @f.d.robben159
    @f.d.robben159 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For some years, I was the proud owner of a V6 from 98. No spoiler, silver, red leather, wooden shifter ( 6 speed ) and steering wheel. It sounded and looked amazing. The breaks were not that great and the timing belt replacement and oil changes ( 10w60 ) were quite costly. But surprisingly very reliable

  • @nigelennis5807
    @nigelennis5807 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I so love this car. I still have mine, 19 years later and I am the only owner! 2004 year. Mine is the same colour with the same boot spoiler. With a service each year and some TLC it has been trouble free. How has an emotional attachment 🤗❤️

  • @eddiej1980
    @eddiej1980 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a 2005 1.9JTD (Z19DTH) SW. nice car but the body rigidity was awful. If you rolled the window down and put your palm on the top door frame / roof at the same time, the panels used to shuffle when going over bumps. As in, if you put a piece of tape between the door and the roof, it would rip just by driving it.
    Parts were cheap so long as you bought vectra parts

  • @TheOracle65
    @TheOracle65 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had a 1998 Alfa 156 2.0 TS from new just like this one but in metallic black as a company car. It was a great car, superb handling, fantastic engine and very handsome. 3 years and 120k miles later I had to give it back very reluctantly. Hardly missed a beat despite hard use.

  • @kevingreen8581
    @kevingreen8581 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great video. Love the Alfa.

  • @rayanderson921
    @rayanderson921 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I use to have a 2002 with the 5cyl diesel, the sound was incredible, and the torque! I absolutely loved that car, I changed it for a GTV

  • @andrewthornton2562
    @andrewthornton2562 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of my all time favourites, especially in Sportwagon form. Great to see your review. Maybe time to sell the 145 and buy a 156?

  • @TassieLorenzo
    @TassieLorenzo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To this day, the 156 and 147 are incredibly pretty cars when seen out and about! To be honest, I'm not sure whether the rumours that a cheap 2005 Alfa Romeo 156 "shed" would cost more to maintain than say a cheap 2005 Honda Accord Euro "shed" are true or not? Thankfully the Honda rusting is not an issue here in Australia (no diesel Accords in Australia only the 2.4L, while I would avoid the JTD and go for a Twinspark, JTS or Busso 156). Some seem to say 159s and Giuliettas cost less to maintain, but that would seemingly deny the 147 & 156 already having a reputation for impeccable durability? 🤔

  • @AlexTenThousand
    @AlexTenThousand ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love the 156 - the only saloon that beats it in terms of looks and style (at least for me) is the 159

  • @Muushondje
    @Muushondje ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a superb and passionate review. The 156 is an Icon !

  • @benfearnhead9851
    @benfearnhead9851 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Didn’t plan on spending half an hour watching a 156 video this morning but all I can say is it’s a good job you’re not a salesman - and/or that my wallet is sadly empty. You’ve really highlighted perfectly what makes these cars so special from a design, build and feel-good point of view. I had a 159ti with the 1750tbi engine which had such great solid build quality and that Italian charm and style that made it feel like a baby Quattroporte. I get the impression the 156 is a lighter more delicate (in a sublime way) even more refined car. I also had a modern Giulietta which borrowed those rear door handles and I’m now in a gorgeous 2004 GTV with the same 2.0 JTS engine and, I believe, a Walter de Silva designed interior. Consider me subscribed and I look forward to equally enthusiastic reviews! Cheers

  • @llewsep
    @llewsep ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dearly miss my 1.8 TS. Unfortunately rust got into the rear strut points on the body. Was going to cost a fortune to repair for MOT..
    Hell of a car to drive, especially with some spirited driving. The engine loved being worked as well.
    I had so much fun. Just a brilliant car.

  • @aslandama
    @aslandama ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree, a great car to look at, given the choice though I'd rather have a 155 sitting on the drive.

  • @davidm3225
    @davidm3225 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've always loved the asymmetric number plate placing.

  • @billgriffiths1685
    @billgriffiths1685 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yipee i'm 985th. How youdoing Matt?

  • @johnphaceas7434
    @johnphaceas7434 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Currently onto my third 156 - all were series 1, pre-facelift V6 cars, with my current car being a 2002 GTA that serves as my daily driver (Just ticked over 270,000km). Brilliant, beautiful, and brutal. The only negative comment I would make is that the later post-2002 facelift version (by Giugiaro) totally ruined the purity of Walter de Silva's perfect design. That said, even the facelift models are infinitely more attractive than pretty much any other car of its time. While to my eye, the original is still the best looking "mainstream" sedan of the last 30 years, and still looks contemporary today. I'm so glad Alfa never facelifted the GTA, and kept the original front all the way through to the end of GTA production in 2005.

  • @AlejjSi
    @AlejjSi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ah yes, the 156 was one of the nicest cars when I was a kid. Sadly, when I was looking to buy a bigger car like this (had Skoda Felicia before), there were virtually none in at least decent condition, confirmed by the fact they often did cost 1/3 of what I paid for the Felicia. And now, you just see none at all. But I can confirm the passive rear wheel steering is great, because eventually I managed to find a great looking 2001 Lancia Lybra 1.8 VVT, which is basically a 156 cousin and has the came rear axle. Also i can confirm the sticky italian plastic, got that too. Even the side of the centre console is sticky. I only realised after my friend in short trousers sat on the passenger seat and rested his leg against it and after he got out found out that his leg is black :D I also see some common parts used in both cars like the centre big cabin light and also the small in the back (incredibly, my Lancia has 6 lights - the two big, then one above each rear door and also the same under each of the sunvisors o_O), the ashtray with the cigarette lighter or the doorcards. Good job on the Alfa you can use teh handbrake with the armrest down, in the Lancia you can't.

  • @richardhowlett9424
    @richardhowlett9424 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And in 1998 I bought a bloody Passat 😖

  • @faustinaadu2284
    @faustinaadu2284 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To me, the v6 was the only pleasing one. And I kind of prefer the look of the 155 in some ways

  • @alphatrion100
    @alphatrion100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This car has already disapeared from the streets where i live

    • @CS-932
      @CS-932 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’ve been daily driving my 156 for almost 10 years. Back when i just got the car, i used to see another 156 on the road every other day, it’s been a year since i last saw another 156 on the road.

  • @woodant1981
    @woodant1981 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My dad had one with a 1.6TS and the only correct config: Rosso Red and Teledial wheels!! Still a brilliant car and great fun. Sadly, pouring blue smoke and tapping away it went to big scrapheap heaven! Good times though, and if i could afford the insurance on one (under 25 AND an old car, no chance!) I'd happily have one

  • @davidsherrick898
    @davidsherrick898 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1980s Gtv6 the best looking Alfa! 2nd is 164, Ugliest is the 75, I'm ugly and love my Milano! 3rd on'e after 16 other vintage Alfa Romeo's. I get its looks, but still love those wheels, the '75' 3.0 V6 has probably the best vintage phone dial rims, Great video! I just subscribed!

  • @Strike86
    @Strike86 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The 1.9 JTD engine was the world's first production common-rail diesel engine (revolutionary in 1998 when it was released). Quieter, smoother and more powerful than any other diesel in the same capacity. The 156 is also Alfa second-best selling car, after the 33.

  • @alfaromeu
    @alfaromeu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this video it was absolutely awesome and entertaining super fun to watch ❤ I own a 156 1.9JTD (diesel) for 14 years and the car is from 2002 so it has 21 years and all I can say is all you said there.
    I also lack the words to describe the emotion and pleasure it delivers and the connection it creates with you like it possesses you 😅 , when someone asks me why Alfa?
    One has to drive an Alfa to understand.
    Peace

  • @gryfandjane
    @gryfandjane ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a lovely piece of rolling sculpture… and the mechanicals complement that beauty in such an exciting way.

  • @nagisaian
    @nagisaian 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As a mechanic these beautiful cars were an amazing place to be they also financed my first home

  • @Dcdjhyfdhg
    @Dcdjhyfdhg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very good channel. I noticed there is no reviews of Alfa Romeo 147 2.0 twin spark or Lancia (Chrysler for UK and Ireland market) Delta with t-jet or multi air engines on your channel. Keep up good work. Best regards and all the best! Cheers!

  • @petersunderland1312
    @petersunderland1312 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I prefer the shape of the estate I had a v.early 2.4 diesel with 5 speed! Great car but got fed up of rebuilding the front suspension. Agree with all your comments well done

  • @iulianhuiban3677
    @iulianhuiban3677 ปีที่แล้ว

    That car is actually a 2.0JTS - 165 BHP. The car is the model is probably 2003, without exterior facelift, but with the new interior and the new 2.0l petrol engine - so is not a 2.0TS 150 bhp, but the 2.0JTS. I had two of these 2.0JTS with the facelift, even though wanned this exact model which looks better, and also had a 2.4JTD 20v (175 bhp) which was a wonder of a car... one of the best diesels ever and so fast...

  • @Stratoszero
    @Stratoszero ปีที่แล้ว

    A design to go down in history, it really was extraordinarily beautiful for an everyday car, like the 406 coupe. The Sportwagon was even nicer. . Giugiaros restyle of the 156 absolutely ruined it. .

  • @newkidd9129
    @newkidd9129 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So you like it then? 😆

  • @1010abcdefgh
    @1010abcdefgh ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a facelift 2004 1.6 ts in black with tan leather interior, easily my favourite car I've owned..... but my god the squeaks from the front wishbones drove me insane everytime they would wear..

  • @andysaunders3708
    @andysaunders3708 ปีที่แล้ว

    You'll also find "eyeball vents" in Capacity Sabre terminal tractor, running a Cummins.
    That's about all else you'll find.
    Ergonomics a re absolutely appalling.
    Truck itself is OK, but, man, I'm in agony. The contortions required from the driver's position to operate the old girls are very post-shift pain-inducing
    No work tonight,. Thank you God.

  • @davidp4456
    @davidp4456 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A wonderful review. It took me right back. I had the same car in a 2.4 turbo diesel and I loved it. The same in every detail apart from the sun roof and the spoiler. Mine was an ‘03 as well and I’d easily take this car back again. It was a company car that I eventually gave back in return for a Passat estate 😢. The sound of the engine was amazing as was the handling on the road. It was super fast, I remember the first time I took it out and it went to 100 without me noticing, when I quickly had to slow down. Later when I changed jobs I bought a ‘56 face lift 2.4TDI Sports Wagon. I particularly liked the shape and the added practicality in the boot area. However this was not as good as the ‘03 saloon and gave me no end of mechanical problems which my Alfa ‘specialist’ struggled to fix (I don’t think he was very good or ‘specialist’). It was a sports version with low profile tyres which gave a very hard ride. It had terrible problems with the turbo and some of the fixed engine parts that would strangely break giving my ‘specialist’ a hard time finding replacements. Alfas are great cars, notorious as you know for reliability and build quality. My ‘03 156 saloon was super and you’re tempting me to trawl the market for another one. Thx

  • @rezaq1
    @rezaq1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m sorry but no, the JTS was not an engine to get excited about. You’re completely wrong! The JTS was a 165ps direct injection engine that was utter crap, the 150ps entire you’re talking about is the 2.0 Twin Spark. The JTS was plagued with camshaft wear, huge oil consumption even on 10W60 and big end bearing failure. It was not a patch on the TS, and sounded rubbish as well.
    Please get your facts correct, especially as you claim to be an Alfa fan.

  • @BojanBojovic
    @BojanBojovic ปีที่แล้ว

    I had it and I did not like it. I am an alfisti, but somehow it was my worst car, or better say my worst Alfa. This is maybe because it was a base model, 1.8 Twin Spark, while my previous 146 was the TI model, then later the 159 was miles better car, and then Giulietta which is somewhat in the middle. My 156 was soft, on high heels, not really great to drive compared to Sport Pack ones. But compared to a regular BMW 320 of the time it felt like a go cart, but I did not like it overall and sold it soon.

  • @lucylovitt9583
    @lucylovitt9583 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm really disappointed - that this isn't more objective... gushing over a frankly mediocre door handle just about says it....🤦🏼 Trying to find out more about living with the car in 2023 - so going somewhere else in YT land

  • @tino897
    @tino897 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m really thinking of buying a 1.8 ya 156 in White. Very rare to see white Alfas. I do miss my 1.9 and 2.5V6 156s so I guess it’s gonna be time to buy another. Currently driving a 2001 Passat V6 but I just need a 156

  • @Rich.Aardvark
    @Rich.Aardvark ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Happy face, happy place

  • @Gabriell0684
    @Gabriell0684 ปีที่แล้ว

    That brings back some emotions. My 156 had to go and now I have a 159, which is nice but a completely different experience.

  • @wouterkolkman
    @wouterkolkman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brings back fond memories - had the 2.5V6 followed by the 2.4JTD when my annul mileage increased - 2.4 was probably the fasted when it comes to in-gear acceleration.