Life in New Zealand. 5 Reasons (Some) Immigrants Fail To Settle
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- Dreaming of a new life in New Zealand? If you’re moving to New Zealand from the US, UK (or elsewhere), then you may wonder why some people make that HUGE move to New Zealand, only to return home a year or so later.
Some people emigrate, hope to make a life in New Zealand & then realise it’s not what they thought it would be.
So they go home.
But what DO people expect when they come to live in New Zealand?
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“Out of the 99,300 non-New Zealanders that arrived here last year, 28,000 left and 71,000 stayed. New Zealand population statistics manager Peter Dolan said the cooling in net migration last year was a result of "the increase in those leaving the country after migrating here in the past".
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@@johannserfontein8624 Thanks so much for pointing that out Johann! Changed it now and it's working. Thanks again! 😄
Is this link not valid now?
Couldn't hear alot of what they were saying the WOMAN kept laughing & drowning out what the man was saying she is an EXPERT in DIGRESSION
My family and I moved over to Bay of Plenty in 2009. We had never been to NZ before and I always remember our removal man saying that in his experience more people make it work that way. Going somewhere on holiday and thinking to yourself “oh this would be a nice place to live” sets you up for disappointment. The rose coloured glasses soon wear off. We came expecting to work hard but have a much better life doing so...which is just what has happened. Yes we do miss family back in the UK but the internet has made it easy to talk with them. We’ve been back on holiday a couple of times now but can’t wait to get back on the plane and go HOME....this is my home, and I feel blessed to say it. I’m not going anywhere else now.
Thanks so much Sharon. And yes, totally agree. If you set out to make it work then you will. And I remember the day when I referred to New Zealand as home...felt really good! 🥰Thanks so much for watching!
Great point and I think it works the other way too. I moved to France from NZ and I reckon if I had previously visited on holiday, I probably wouldn't have made the move.
I was married once to a girl from San Diego that moved here with me and after 3-4 years she was whining quite a bit about how America is so much better. She went back to America for a 3 week holiday (without me) and she returned and said: "I cant believe how wrong my memories were; it sucked after getting used to NZ".
She never complained again (out loud anyway haha) and she embraced NZ a lot more openly and freely.
Thank you for being with us and for sharing Paul! Have a lovely week 😊
If I didn’t live in NZ, I would swear the beautiful background scenery behind you is fake. Such vivid colours here. That’s such a lovely view.
Thank you Kerry, and yes, it looks like a filter has been added doesn’t it? But it hasn’t, that’s exactly how it is...like you say, the clarity of light here in New Zealand is wonderful 🇳🇿🥰
Point 2. That’s why Australia and NZ had the term Whinging Pom. But as one lovely older British gentleman said to me after a few beers “I spent 20 years complaining about NZ beer, went home for a holiday and their’s was worse”.We often remember things through rose coloured glasses.
This is so true! We DO tend to think of things with rose-tinted glasses...then we go back and think "hang on..this isn't how it's supposed to be and then return back with our tails between our legs - never to whinge again... 😆Thanks so much for watching 😊
Hehe that's hilarious! I met a lovely Englishman at my old job and he was a happy chappy and he was awesome to work with. I asked him about England and he said he'll never go back, and for the first time ever I saw him look angry lol
@@ItsaDrama I think its funny how people forget that they weren't forced to move. They chose to leave their country and seem surprised when they aren't at home anymore!
Obviously this is different for refugees, but interestingly they aren't resentful and usually they make a success of their life.
One of the main reasons we left NZ was the appeal of seeing family after two years. Our original plan was for visits at Christmas but Covid put a stop to those. I think the sheer distance is a factor, especially for Brits. New Zealand is an incredible country and the people made us feel very welcome 😊
You guys give very good advice. Over the years, I've heard both positive and negative things about each of the five 'Anglosphere' countries (UK, US, Canada, Australia & NZ). While four of these countries were each colonized by the British and all speak their own dialects of English, they've all evolved into unique societies. I think that, regardless of which country a person emigrates to, how they adapt (or don't) depends entirely on their mindset upon arrival. If one has a positive attitude and is receptive to new people and ways of doing things, then the transition will almost certainly be successful. On the other hand, if one moves to a new country expecting it to essentially be the same as their home country, just in a different location, then the move will be a disaster, because the new country will inevitably pale in comparison. In short, openness to new experiences, realistic expectations and patience are the key elements.
100% agree. Spot on Terry 😊
@@ItsaDrama You said before that you guys had considered emigrating to here in Canada. May I ask why you opted for NZ instead of Canada?
Many ppl use or atleast used to use NZ as a backdoor to Aus when it was more diifficult to emigrate to Aus.
NZ is also a very expensive place to live, in most cases far more expensive than their home country and many ppl dont realise that. Housing affordability is another big problem and some ppl just dont take this things into acc.
I think one of the reasons is most of NZ employers are narrow minded when it comes to hiring staff. Most employers want only people with experience and that too they want NZ experience. Experience does not fall from the sky, one cannot buy experience with money and nobody is born with experience. Isn't it? Not everyone can work for free (volunteer) for experience. How is an individual expected to have work experience when he/she is not given an opportunity to gain experience? I am a NZ citizen settled in Auckland and trained and NZ registered Secondary school Science/Biology teacher with 3 years of full-time teaching experience overseas. Even after completed a Teaching Refresher course locally, I have been struggling to find a full-time teaching role here. Pathetic!!!
I worked with loads of British in Otago when I was young,I think one of the biggest reasons for returning to the UK is the sudden realisation that they couldn't get a cheap flight to another country that would only take an hour or two. They didn't comprehend the isolation that makes NZ what it is....imagine if it was off the coast of Europe how different it would be. I came to the UK in 2004 with the intention of coming back to NZ every couple of years,I've been back once in 17 years lol,so it works both ways. Maybe one day I'll come back to NZ,but the reasons people move in the first place,plays a big part in why it works or doesn't whatever the case may be. I think family is the other big reason, family support can be a big part of people lives that can't easily me measured,until its not there. I do miss my family in NZ but I've always been very independent so its never been an issue for me,but I recognise many people aren't like that.
Great insight, thanks so much for sharing. Yes, that was our thought too...that we’d return every couple of years... then when you see the price of flights and the fact that you need at least 3 weeks to make it worthwhile it is quite tricky. Thanks so much for watching!
Brian, when talking about darts, "that's when I had a life!" Haha - the banter is fantastic! And such great advice about accepting NZ as NZ... it's a different country with similarities vs a similar country with differences.
Glad you enjoyed it Hayley, thanks so much for your kind words 😊
Did you see the Oxfam walk that weekend I came down to New Plymouth for the weekend from Auckland was amazed at what was on.
No, we never saw that Malcom. New Plymouth is brilliant! 😁
@@ItsaDrama Yes it is I did the coastal path Saturday and Sunday just on 30kms first time I've been down there other than a fly in fly out day for work, and we got to Bellblock. The time before that I stayed overnight was early 70s after visiting Mum's uncle who was the lighthouse keeper at Cape Egmont.
The real reason is easy. To be a true Kiwi you must get a long nose and dig about in leaf-mould for worms with it, at night. 30% find that process painful--especially the long nose bit, because surgical stretching is needed. And not everyone likes worms. Even from Watties. (30% did not find any of that amusing).
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I like kiwis lol
To illustrate about moving…A family walking thru the park saw an elderly chap sitting on the park bench.The family who were thinking of shifting to the area asked him “What are the people like here?” The elderly chap asked “What is it like where you came from?” The family answered “ Oh they are friendly,kind etc”The gentleman replied”That’s what they are like here”
A little while later another family walking thru the park asked the gentlemen “What are the people like here?” The gentleman asked “What are they like where you’ve come from?” The family.said “Oh their terrible,you can’t trust them,Not kind or generous at all” The gentleman replied “That’s what they are like here” Moral of the story,,,,It’s all in your attitude positivity or negativity ITS YOUR CHOICE.You May not change people but you can change yourself in the way you view things.
When we immagrated 60 years ago from Scotland,it was the same attitude “Back in the UK,When we were in England” It was very hard to here that as we were trying to settle in.My father ended up saying “If it’s so good back there,go home”The winging Pom was definitely the attitude back then.❤
The rsa is super here. I belong to a pool team and play snooker. We have some darts teams as well. Drinks are cheaper than a traditional pub, but it's very much got the feel of a "local", you get to know the regulars. The only thing I'm thinking about for easter is that the rsa will be closed on Friday and what will I do without my pool games.
We have a lot of games with other rsa teams and its just a really nice community.
To be fair I expected there to not really be a culture shock in England, but my kids were almost shell shocked. Being indoors all the time (winter), not being able to just pop down the shops with bare feet. Ohh and all the kids at their schools thinking they were australians.
That sounds great Anna, I think the community thing is the key isn’t it? Hope you have a lovely Easter 😁 and you made me laugh about people thinking your kids were from Oz! 😂
Just seeing how happy you both are makes moving to NZ seem a very good idea!
It was certainly the best move we ever made...thank you xx
I'm a born Kiwi and I prefer England now. I lived there in rural Somerset for 3 years 2018 - 2020 came back during covid for family reasons and still miss it. When my aging pets pass I am going back lol. What I miss is the accesibility to country walks, the ability to walk out your door and accross fields and droves, and farmland. I just loved that. No opportunity to do that here. NZ has become so expensive, I know it has eveywhere but NZ housing and food prices are over the top. I grew up here when it was laid back and cheap and easy living. It's not like that now. I guess I should add my parents are English so I have an English passport.
'Do you want a beer, Brian?' .... "not I" 🤣. what a crack up!
🤣What a goody two shoes...😂
when I worked in a tyre factory with quite a few brits I remember a couple of the new boys after a few months went back saying it wasn't for them 6 months later they were back they went back because they missed the pub culture their friends ,to follow their local sports(soccer) club,etc etc but on going back realised not as good as they remembered
I think the football thing is huge. Seriously, Brian loves footy but we made sure that we spent money on (don't know the name of it) but it's a streaming service that allows him to watch the games live - it's helped enormously in allowing him to stay connected 😁
HI guys - love your channel - also in Taranaki for 15 years. Everything has its pros and cons but I have stayed. It always looks better where you came from, but I love rural Taranaki more than anywhere else.
if you come from a first world country then you better stay in your country cause the cost if living in NZ is high but wages aren't as high compared to your home country..
As a New Zealander, I think you are spot on. It's generic to any country you move to, but because NZ is an English speaking colony of the UK, some Brits expect it to be the same. I left NZ and settled in Japan for 20 years. Moving to Japan meant that I didn't expect anything to be the same. But I still found many people complaining that it wasn't the same as 'home'.
It's so funny you should mention Japan John, Brian and I were talking about just that last night. How if you moved to Japan you would expect things to be different and you would embrace it for what it is. As you say, because they speak English here it's almost expected (by some) that things will be the same. And then they get upset when they're not. On another topic, we lOVED Japan. such a beautiful country. In a lot of ways, it reminded us of NZ. the calm and the understatedness. I would love to hear more about your life there! Thanks for listening John 😊
Growing up knew several families who immigrated to nz twice!. Back home wasn't as good as they remembered, but nz was what they had wanted after all
Yes Eileen, we know people like that too...looking at back gone through rose tinted glasses (and I can see why that happens- I do it all the time with the kids ‘ahh...it was lovely when they were babies’...errr?? Hang on?? It was a bloody nightmare at times! 🤣
what a beautiful place, sunny, breeze..lots of sunlight
That inlet has lamprey eels in it. Blue and slimey but unique taste when cooked on an open fire. Never cooked them myself. I’m way too sensitive to other living creatures to do it. But,I did after much hesitation, try eating one. Nothing can describe the taste other than uniquely delicious.
You two are very natural, tell it like it is, bloggers and I’m really liking your vids. Thanks Liz and Brian.
Thank you so much ☺️
Homesickness is a thing too. I spent a month is the US, couldn't wait to get back home. Did have a great holiday there though.
The grass is greener where you water it the most
I think the main thing when moving to any country is to research as much as you can. Research job's, price's, culture and lifestyle. Think about the reason for your move and research if it's even possible. Think about what you enjoy doing and see if you can still do it there. You shouldn't go to a historical village for a holiday if you only enjoy clubbing and city life, and then complain that there's nothing to do like it's the village's fault.
I'm going to try jasmine tea.
Did you make video about renting, and why did you choose New Plymouth ?
Jasmine teas is lovely - really refreshing 😊No video about renting yet (another great idea - thank you!) we chose NP because that's where Brian's original job. 12 years later we have never left... we fell in love with the region!
Whenever Liz was telling Brian don't get what you're talking about, I was like - I get what he's saying..? LOL. But love the banter. Aussie
Maybe it’s just me...maybe it’s my age?? Half the time I haven’t got a clue what he’s on about 😳🤣🤣 Thanks for watching! Liz
in the process of moving to nz to teach in secondary, after 2 year covid delay, find you videos helpful, and also you support Bath rugby, watched your piece about american teacher mivng to nz and wondered if you would be interested in me doing one for UK teachers moving to NZ?
Can you send me an email please Barb? liz@itsadrama.com
I love your backyard. what's the house look like from the front?
Crowded House was formed in Melbourne Australia Its founding members were New Zealander Neil Finn and Australians Paul Hester and Nick Seymour. So more Australian then NZ but not surprised that they've been "stolen". Earlier band Split Enz was from NZ.
I never knew that! Thanks 😁
Yeah but the singer is kiwi Neil Finn, he even played for Fleetwood Mac recently, and ya don't here him boasting about it, just sayn
Neil Finn formed the band and wrote and produced all their songs. Paul Hester and Nick Seymour always had a minor role in the band. Neil Finn's older brother Tim was a band member for many years. Neil Finn's two sons are currently band members. Australian? Nope. Stolen? Nope.
@@maverick214 Live in Melbourne & was there when they announced IN MELBOURNE they were forming a band with 2 Australians & 1 Kiwi. As usual, people who don't appreciate bands think only the singer is the main act. Not saying that Neil Finn isn't important but perhaps he should've rushed back to NZ to form the band so you could make your claim correct instead of doing so in Australia & then making all their biggest hits in Melbourne. But hey, let's not bother letting facts get in the way of a good BS show.
Its a nz band started by Neil.finn. Oz always Steal nz things
I've visited NZ. Thought it was beautiful. Want to come back for another visit 😊
You guys should try and just say what you want to say, most times am board watching, keep it straight and simple . Love you and thanks for sharing
Another brilliant episode!!x
Thank you so much 😊
As a 4th Generation Pakeha Kiwi who has travelled around the world! I loved this, and it is so true! I have subscribed. I think the biggest problem is the distance; my ancestors came here on a sailing ship. There was no Suez Cannel, nor Panama Cannel, it took 3 and a half months! Now we moan about a 48 hour journey!
But there is something psychological about the separation from your family!
But too many people make the mistake of thinking Auckland is the Bees Knees! AS a Kiwi who has lived in Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch, Dunedin and Invercargill and the worst place I lived in was Auckland! Too many Immigrants go to Auckland, NOT to many Kiwi born New Zealanders live in Auckland! And it rains a lot!
The South Island is the best Island!
I enjoy the Brits!
Thank you so much Rob! We really appreciate you being with us 😊
I learned how to be extremely sarcastic from my kiwi hubby. It’s what makes life so much fun.😂
I think sometimes the distance makes people feel lonely. Family sick at home or kids having grandkids and your stuck on other side of earth.
It depends on what country you have moved from to New Zealand AND what you are used too. I moved from The UK to New Zealand & the two biggest things that hit me was the poor choice of virtually everything mainly food and clothes & how expensive food Is. After a couple of years I moved to Australia & almost instantly It was like being back in The UK, so much choice, variety and reasonable prices, not to mention the Aussies are certainly more in sync with the British humour than the Kiwi's are. I've not long returned to New Zealand (for personal & family reasons) after a few years and nothing has really changed, everythings still very expensive & unless you have a high-paying job youre just about surviving. Sadly it's what they call a "Low Wage Economy" so many many people are living from paycheck to paycheck. I'll always love New Zealand but as soon as all these "Lockdowns" are over i'm on the next flight back to Australia. This is just my own personal experience, I know It's different for everyone.
Thank you for sharing Dan, we really appreciate it. 😊
Ditto. I lived in NZ from 1992 - 2014. Been in Australia for about 8 years now and I have never looked back. Hardly any opportunites to get ahead in NZ. The medical fraternity is still racially monopolised.
I come to here since mid 2019 with son and mom. And now April 1st. I will be moving to London. I got work visa but not able to get my mom a visa. This is sad.
I'm going to move back to NZ in a year or two, after things here settle down for me, and I feel I can move back. I'm in the UK. Technically I'm not a foreigner here, because my parents are English, but you're right, but in reverse. The UK initially did feel like a foreign country. And as to the idyllic perceptions of NZ. I remember being assesed by a doctor here who talked to me about how wonderful she thought NZ was, and her friend, who lives in NZ telling her that the streets in NZ were so clean. NZ does have clean streets, but there is still plenty of litter around, just like in the UK. So yes there is an idyllic impression of what it's like. I find it interesting how someone who moves to NZ and settles down there sees things. It often reveals things about your own country you didn't realise existed.
This is so interesting James, I too love hearing about the other persons experience in my home country...and yes, you are right, they always see things that you would otherwise have missed (or taken for granted). Have a great week and thanks again 😊PS: Big hellooo to everyone in the UK 🇬🇧
NZ is a fantastic country… we’re all super lucky to live here…
i love your sense of humour 😂
Thank you Jane! We love that you are with us! 😘
No idea what he means about the Queen not being the Queen of England but the Queen of Newzealand, I don't think I've ever heard a kiwi describe the Queen as the Queen of newzeland, she's usually described as the Queen of England or of the commonwealth, sounds like a native was having him on maybe
People dont realize how expensive housing and food is in New Zealand.Also drug and alcohol abuse,child poverty,domestic abuse and high suicide rate is a big problem here.
Those Kiwis who never do substance abuse already moved to Australia.
how about the weather?
depends where you live@@2Sage-7Poets
Wow, it seems like Shangri-La online!
@@2Sage-7Poetswe don't have much of a sun anymore, Geoengineering and cloud seeding is as bad as everywhere in the world
Im surprised you are not getting any craft beer promotion products?
What do you think about our ambulance costs?
Bring a plate, just role in with a few packets marshmello chocolates,
its a bonus at my work when they have a food event,
Well...we can but hope Greg...🍺😆
@@ItsaDrama Mellopuffs and Tim Tams are a Bring a plate theme, if thats a video tasting,
or invite your neighbours?
Perhaps a quick glance at the comprehensive article in to day's The Guardian on line (02/09.23) called "Boomerang Adults" might make you feel less smug? In fact unless you have a VERY well paid job, good savings and the ability to buy a very expensive home don't consider the move!
Im kiwi left had awesome life 40 years out in the world.returned to nz 2020 trying to stay look for good
Thank you for sharing, Angela, we appreciate you being with us 😊
Interesting points. I thought the main reason would’ve been the cost of living. That’s the thing I’m most concerned about.
Canadians perspective. Lived here for a year in 2015-2016 in my early 20's. I had to go home to finish my schooling and had intentions of going back but life happened and that's not how things worked out. The weather and scenery are absolutely unmatched but I do remember my quality of life being quite down. I was working the same profession I had in Canada and earning $50,000.00 NZD yearly less.. a HUGE pay cut.
It all depends on where you come from as to what your experience may be but you definitely have a much higher ceiling in Canada. New Zealand would be better if you were going with a lot of money or if you had no intention of going back to your home country. I say that because the NZD is also a weak currency. You'd lose 20% of your savings just for going back to Canada.
I really hope one day I come across a ton of money cause I'd love to go there permanently and not struggle!
So glad to have you with us and thank you for sharing this perspective! Much love to you and Canada! 🇨🇦 😊
I can kinda get what you mean like if they have some negative opinions on some of our tjhings, expensive prices, family reasons or if they committed a crime that deported them or if after a while they’re getting tired of the country. But still more people will be choosing to call New Zealand home, there are people who are getting tired of their home country and wanting to go somewhere else, you know Americans will be doing this from what is going on in the USA right now, I know there’s lots of people who are so done with America now, and were already concerned with other things with America before covid started. E.g a guy, either normal person, or rich and famous, left the USA behind completely fed up and now settling in Dunedin or Invercargill
Very true Christopher. I hope your friend settles down ok in Dunedin! I've never been there but Brian has and he said it's beautiful. Thank you for watching 😊
No I said settling in Dunedin or Invercargill as an example I don’t mean I have someone from the USA who is moving here to NZ, I also don’t quite expect something such as a USA celebrity or a family member of one such as their son to choose New Zealand or Australia to call home even though it could possibly happen. But still you know why Americans will be moving out from there and coming here
At the time, my profession was a "closed shop" (may still be so). If I was not financially secure to take early retirement, I would have gone back when my Harvard credentials and clean record were not accepted by the "governing body" of the profession to which there is no accountability nor appeal. Investigate your profession thoroughly before coming here.
As a🥝 I say .. great vid.., & thank you for being objective…
And I agree.., why come if you want the same you have.., or don’t want to get out n experience this beautiful place.. we’re all super to live here.., and be willing to learn to respect a old & pre existing treaty & agreement that this nation is based in
Thank you for being with us and for saying hi! We appreciate you! 😊
'one does not have a beer when one has finished one's work'
🤣🤣Not on Brian's watch one does not...🤣
It’s a very soft and fluffy review lol she’ll be alright has gotten to you it seems.
Slowly turning south 😁 Thanks for watching Jordan
Gorgeous environment 😉
It really is! Thank you for watching! 😊
Ha, Ha, Ha. Cloud formation in the background is a similar shape to UK & Ireland ... sort of.
Thank you so much for watching and for sharing! 😊
Of the people i have spoken to, it is missing family being the thing that makes them return.
It is a huge thing to attempt, I am surprised so many return, but not all to England I assume ? Are there any actual facts on why so many return. Missing family might be high on such a list, NZ is so far away.
Yes, Jo, missing family is high on the list. As you say, it is a long way away! Thank you for being with us and taking the time to say hi! 😊
From an Latin American man under 35. Mostly the most challenging thing is the NZ people. I will never adjust to their humor, their ways and the difficulty of establishing meaningful relationships. NZ is fine, work hard and get busy. Maybe join a church, be engage in the community and you will enjoy it. After some time you realise that you are adopting New Zealand ways
Goodness these two relationships are real cute.
Thank you William, we appreciate you being here! 😊
You're right Bri, why come to another country if you are going to live the same style. I never go to the pubs here but I did un UK...... Great meals.
Sad to stick with your own, you don't learn anything. Even in London I learnt so much from other cultural groups. Their are Kiwi, Samoans , Tongans and Fijians living over there but you will get to know our cultures more here or if you go to the islands. It could be rather difficult to break a Brit's armour but once you did you have a friend for life. Rather difficult on the bus, at a bus stop, park, garden enter, gym. Easier in a pub where their guard is down.
How much money should you take with you to New Zealand UK pounds?
Spot on, amount of non-NZ’ders who have asked me, where are the coconut palm trees 😒
🤣🥥!!
hoping to make plunge once covid sorted wifes family live in auckland and wellington...thank god she is a kiwi... we want to live on the west coast
Good luck! Thanks for watching ! 😊
I wish to be a snowbird and live in New Zealand 6 month of the yr and the USA 6 month. I am chasing a climate and spring/summer in a country I have visited. I am a world traveler even been to Antarctica. I want to chase bugs. As an amateur entomologist I want to see insects I have never seen. I live outside a large city about 45 min away. My closest food and Petro is 15 min away. I drive but feel concerned about driving in NZ. I want lazy days with great views. A monthly rental would be great. I fancy the Taupo lake area or Auckland area. I do love performing arts theatre and dog shows. As a 72 yr old I can afford to live anywhere. I do not want to put down the over 2 million dollars a visa would cost me. I will not be holding a job. Do education visas include elderly amateur scientist?? Would love to see the mountains and the water together. I do not swim. I like cooking. Don’t need restaurants. Where might be a great place for me??? What services come to your door? Grocery delivery? RX delivery? Restaurant delivery? Mobile Mani/pedi? I would not be bringing anything but 1 suitcase and my meds. Would it be easy to get a doctor visit ? Would doctors prescribe for a foreigner? Is a car necessary?
“stop moaning about the bacon for God sake” haha
I'm not kidding Julia...If I've heard it once I've heard it a thousand times...and I wouldn't mind! New Zealand bacon is divine!! 🥰
I had Kiwis do the same exact same here in the USA! All immigrants compare if you don’t then you are not normal! Lol NZ is beautiful but it IS extremely expensive and a lot of hidden issues that you all don’t talk about ! Glad you like life in NZ
Of course, it's natural to compare, we all do it...I suppose it's just knowing when to stop and embrace where you are. Thanks so much for watching :)
NZ isn't extremely expensive. Especially when you don't have to budget for extremely expensive healthcare like the USA!
@@maverick214 now you smoking something very special! NZ is expensive
@@greekxstitcher5379 Try $10,000 plus for birth delivery in a reasonable hospital, $2,00 for an ambulance, that is why poor Americans drive or take taxis to hospital, and thats money on top of state, federal and general taxes.
@@jeffcarroll6553 no one is paying $10,000 to give birth. You can’t fully go by what’s online, there’s lots of factors that go into it. My family is a mixture of poor and middle class. Poor people qualify for subsidies related to medical care, middle class people typically have jobs that provide insurance. My mother had 3 kids in the hospital and didn’t pay for any of them. Contrary to popular belief health care exist in America, it’s just not universal like in the UK.
People often move country to solve a emotional problem in their life, only to discover it wasn't the place that was the issue.
How is the job market in New Zealand?
I can only speak for the building trade Anish and that is very buoyant. 😊
I wish some one would open an English pub. And import the atmosphere. As a nzer, I loved the English pubs.
That'd be great, wouldn't it? And they were even better in the days before they banned smoking. 😆 I've never smoked but that smell of cigarettes and stale beer takes me back to being a kid in the '70s...
nothing better than a bit of clever sarcasm
If i had to live in Taranaki, I'd leave as well, lol. I live in Hamilton and have a batch in Coromandel. Interesting video thanks
No waaayy! The Naki is the best!! 😁Although I do love the Coromandel...and Hamilton has a really beautiful park. Still. Taranaki all the way for me. Thanks for watching Joe! 😃
What part of the coromandel Joe. I live in whitianga
@@londonbeatz other coast oamaru bay. Great fishing right now
Seriously Hamilton is not better than Taranaki
I left NZ after many years living there ...back to Europe. Pay lower tax on investments in Europe. Enjoy summertime in the Med and summertime in Nelson. Early retired so I can manage. Great decision :)
So glad that you’re happy! Thanks for watching ☺️
Agree 100% with immersing yourself in the culture and meeting people from that country and sort of staying away from your own people.... We migrated from Brazil to America then to the UK, have settled here for almost 20 years now and can definitely say we saw these struggles with others who migrated to the UK too!
Yes...I mean I know it's natural...to want to stay with what's familiar...but unless you really put yourself out there you never can really know what it is like to live in that country. And lets' face it - that's why you moved in the first place!! thank you for your comments Julia 😘
So how is the cultural challenge to be in NZ,do you get homesick, and is their enough entertainment?
@@greggiles7309 Is really depends on which part of New Zealand you are living in if enough entertainment is your prime concern.
What's the board game scene like?
Some people just can’t handle perfection.
Yes including NZ, Elizabeth is queen of all commonwealth countries.
Thanks for watching Liza! ☺️
If you come from a worse off country then it is idyllic. You are ready to work hard and are aware of worse crimes so everything said here is really a joyride.
Agreed! Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment Tumi! 😊
It's very obvious. People are lively by housing and cost of living are ridiculously high
Interesting points and I'm glad it's worked out for you guys. For me personally it's 'lifestyle' vs 'quality of life'. The lifestyle, access to beaches, weather is great but for me compared to the UK the cost of living and what you get for it is a joke. Also working here is a constant battle due to the tall poppy syndrome. Been here 15 years, worked in various positions in differing industries and they've all been hell, battling with ego's and incompetence and due to the passive agressive attitude that seems to dominate you can't address your problems with employers, they are happy to talk about you but not to you.
But the main thing that is sending us home is how frankly depressing this country is, baby murders, domestic violence, armed gangs,teen suicides, drink, drugs, dangerous driving... and nobody seems to care.
It's been an interesting experience and I came here with a positive mindset but have pretty much had my soul sucked dry by this place and my quality of life was far superior living in a small town in North Yorkshire, which is where I'm returning to. I know people tell me that the UK has changed but I was there a few years and couldn't believe how much happier and more positive people were over there compared to NZ.
Thanks so much for sharing your experience. I'm so sorry that it didn't work out...15 years is a long time and you certainly gave it your best shot. North Yorkshire is lovely and the people there are very warm and friendly (obvioulsly not as nice as Lancashire though! 😉🌹) we wish you every success back in Blighty and thanks again for watching and for taking the time to share your experience 😊
My story is was married to a kiwi in the uk,came to nz in my early twenties in 1980,divorced in the 90,s...with no family in nz ,joined many groups ,but found i was not treated like a nzer,my accent, and been called a pom,and not being a drinker ,and being a single woman as been hard.felt i new lots of people to smile and say hello with a warm heart,but still kept on the outer.i feel you cant complain about anything even the weather,but the nzer was complaining all the time maori and European nzer.i have had no money to go back to the uk.....now food and rent is through the roof,,and alone in nz ,no car ,.even when i moved into a pension flat....was told by one resident, i dont like poms,and why are you so dressed up....that does not make you feel like you belong.been in nz over 40yrs and helped lots of people on that journey as a single mother.my 2 kids now live in the uk...are married with kids of their own.thay have become stranger,to busy being busy.so hard for a woman whoes leaves her country for a man when to young. Lots of things i love about nz....never got use to the isolation and now covid..some people find their happiness, but many dont.love to all new zealands ❤
Sounds terrible, I hope you move forward with many blessings. Kia kaha.
@@anniehowe6169 Totally get your story. We are heading back in the new year for the same reasons, I know my kids are not going to stay in NZ and my partner and I will be left alone here with no money and no friends. Thanks for sharing.
Well said! Being irrepressibly optimistic won’t stop you becoming a victim in NZ
Its not the same as home...creature comforts are not the same..??
Only thing that has me worried about moving to New Zealand is the cost of housing. Its insane!
Its not as bad as some places in the world. Its all relative really.
Also the cost of food ....INSANE. 200 - 300 dollars per week lately. Not to mention petrol ($2.69 per litre) and energy are through the roof.
'Parked our car in South Auckland and went off in the camper'. Every Aucklander goes oh shit!
😆Talk about wet behind the ears...😳
just love Irish pubs
As a Kiwi I'm very interested to hear lots of Brits expect to be very cheap - sort of like Greece before it made a big mistake and joined the euro.
Hmmm ... NZ a cheap paradise in the Pacific.
I'd like to know the average Brit's knowledge and comprehension of life in NZ.😀
What's cheap nothing right now
positively sacarstic 😄
The weather...is probably better...and less people ...thats all i can think of..
Thank you, Jane! 🤗
im a kiwi and sarcasm is our way of life
Poms who only socialise with other poms go home more often than those that immerse themselves into NZ life
I'm heading over in a month for a year's work. Hopefully longer if things go well. I'll definitely be immersing myself! Leaving the UK is a big part of my motivation for taking the job.
🤣 Absolutely true about sausages. More to life than sausages and bacon.🥓🎭
Yes sir! 😂
Nah
Can the New Zealand tourist be converted to a work visa.
Clear...
Number 2 Liz, i agree wit you 100%. This is NZ why they moan knowing this is not England.
Thank you for sharing and for being with us! We appreciate you 😊
I never think nz is dirt cheap. In fact meat is cheap. House is cheap. Better air and blue sky.
Hi I am ramzan Bhatti in Russia 🇷🇺 but I love 💘 i like New Zealand
Hello Ramzan! Sending best wishes from our country to yours! 🇳🇿🇷🇺😊
Ha ha you two are great. And yeah nah im a Kiwi
Thanks so much Larry! 😁
Think many New Zealanders want to leave New Zealand in a heartbeat if they had finances and resources to move elsewhere many want to leave either for Australia or Europe and beyond.
Crime rates gone though the roof taxes are at insane levels generally in $300-$500 per a week hand over to the government to do what exactly ? It isn't going to places that need the most like healthcare or our infrastructure it went to gangsters 2.7million dollars worth😂
In general people are sick of hearing " we know people doing it tough" do absolutely nothing with the housing crisis with cost of buying services and goods.
If it was up to me I'll be out of this country in heartbeat and move to a country that gives a damn about it's citizens safety law and order and wanting people to actually get ahead not only getting a paycheck just to get by even working full-time you may not be able to pay for trips or holidaying which is a true reality for many many workers that I've spoken to.
This country is busted more than broke we are well and truly screwed.
He proper looks like Robert Powell.
He does!! (But MUCH better looking) 😉😁
@@ItsaDrama very good reply 🙂 love listening to you guys.