If you're cortisol levels are normal you do not have adrenal fatigue. Got alot of people self diagnosing and are desperate for a label. I'm not saying there isn't anything wrong with you but if it doesn't reflect in the blood test you don't have it.
@Truth Speaker (Raw) Carnivore has REALLLLLY help me with C-PTSD ( including but not limited to anxiety chronic depression extreme rage extreme sadness extreme fear)... sadly has Not helped with the bad fatigue.
This would have been more informative if they gave some numbers re; adrenal 'fatigue' vs adrenal crisis. I just got out of the hospital with this issue - they noted my cortisal # was 12.... is that 'fatigue' or crisis???
They talk about not enough Cortisol but what about too much? I thought that’s what causes Adrenal Fatigue. I get it’s a misnomer, but clearly too much Cortisol is a concern too Right?
My cortisol is up and down during the whole day constantly and is making me crazy because this not my only health issue and because we have one whole body and every thing is connect so is like a domino fall each piece started falling one by one until everything is really down
Fritz Smith Opoids can cause cortisol to plunge too low. To a point where it's dangerous. I know of 2 people that have had this happen to them. They were tired all the time, lost too much weight, etc and didn't know why. They weren't from doctor to doctor thinking they were sick. Doctors took years to figure out that the cause was the opioids. They were both taking it for spine pain. One was on 2 pills a day for 6 months and the other 4 a day for a few years. Adderol can mess with cortisol too. Caffeine in coffee can make the body think it's under attack and raises cortisol too.
Fritz Smith Yup. I have low cortisol and the fight or flight. It's the worst. From way too much stress for way too long. I found a great doctor on TH-cam who has great info on Cortisol and adrenals. Doctor Eric Berg. I also really like Dr. Lam. They talk about how to raise cortisol. Like relaxing as much as possible. Light exercise, where you don't think about anything but the beauty around you as you walk. Meditation. As stress free as possible. High dose Vitamin C IV's, along with other vitamins and micronutrients in the IV are what finally gave me energy again. Magnesium at night helps me tons with the panic feeling. Detoxing too. You probably know more than I do on this subject but I really hope that helps in some way. Facebook also has a Adrenal Fatigue group that has good info.
Fritz Smith and thank you for that info!! I find myself craving sugar out of the blue now. Adrenal fatigue is the worst. I went from running 10 miles a day and a really good life to not having energy to leave my house. I'd get lost going places I knew well, panic, depression, anxiety, etc. I have energy from the IV's but now trying to fix the rest. It's definitely possible to fix and the body follows the brain. 😊
Fritz Smith Fritz thank you! I appreciate what you've sent so much! I've read tons about this in the last few months but it's hard to remember what I've read with the brain fog. I'm curious why you asked about the antibiotics because, yes! My doctor misdiagnosed me with Lyme disease and put a picc line in me and gave me 4 times more than the normal amount of ceftriaxone for a month. They found high CFS Protein in my spinal tap. This makes sense due to the inflammation part that comes along with cortisol. I was having slight symptoms off and on before the picc line but I also took antibiotics off and on growing up to keep my skin clear. The antibiotics from the picc line definitely made me become much worse. I went from tired every few days to exhausted every single day to the point where I couldn't function. I got sicker and sicker from the picc line and that's when the doctors realized that I don't have Lyme disease. I'm sure those antibiotics messed up my gut even more. I also think the messed up cortisol might have been brought on due to getting 4 major shots of cortisone within one year. I've read that adrenal fatigue happens to many athletes who get a lot of Cortizone shots and to performers on Broadway they get sick. That's when I realized that I was being Cortizone shots for my job as well. I do voice work for a living and whenever I was sick and lost my voice, my doctor gave me a major cortisone shot. Within an hour, my voice would come completely back, sounded good and I could work. A few hours after, I'd be sick again. I never knew what I was being given at the time and just blindly trusted that doctors wouldn't give me anything that could hurt me. I've had a huge wake up call. Sorry for the long message. I'm still in fight or flight mode but have been finally coming out of it slowly in the last month.
Apparently the word fatigue is needed in the medical world for a very specific job or jobs. The don’t want it applied to adrenal glands because of this need. Ok then, medical community, please help us with lower levels of cortisol BEFORE we are “in crisis “.
You won't go into ADRENAL CRISIS from adrenal fatigue. You would need to have the actual medical diagnosis of ADRENAL INSUFFICIENCY to actually be worried about ADRENAL CRISIS. Adrenal fatigue is NOT a medical diagnosis and it isn't life threatening like the actual medical diagnoses of ADRENAL INSUFFICIENCY and ADRENAL CRISIS.
What’s that got to do with an Addison’s Crisis? It’s a straightforward reaction to an Adrenal Cortisol shortage,I ended up in a high dependency unit with a central line into my heart, I was in a state of collapse with cardiovascular shutdown constant vomiting and shitting myself to death.. all due to a case of undiagnosed Addisons Disease. Glucose or the lack of it doesn’t cause Addisons Disease.
@@dennyferguson7854they don't care that we will actually die. They want everyone to feel bad because they have a group of symptoms that some jerk decided to call adrenal fatigue. It's messed things up seriously for those of us with the actual medical diagnoses that fall under adrenal insufficiency. Those with the non-medical diagnosis of adrenal fatigue have no clue how much more scary it is because of the inappropriate fake diagnosis they have, and how much work was being done, and is being done, to educate about adrenal insufficiency. It's so dangerous and irresponsible using the terms "adrenal fatigue".
No it doesn't. That's Primary/secondary adrenal insufficiency that's diagnosed by a Endocrinologist with a 8am cortisol and ACTH stimulation blood test. Not by Naturopath or Functional Medicine. Also not by saliva or finger pricks cortisol tests. A recent review of 58 studies concluded that there is no scientific basis to associate adrenal impairment as a cause of fatigue. The authors report the studies had some limitations. The research included used many different biological markers and questionnaires to detect adrenal fatigue. For example, salivary cortisol is one of the most common ordered tests used to make a diagnosis. The cortisol level, when checked four times in a 24-hour period, was no different between fatigued and healthy patients in 61.5% of the studies. The review raises questions around what should get tested (blood, urine, and/or saliva), the best time, how often, what ranges are considered normal, and how reliable the tests are, to name a few. In summary, there is no formal criteria to define and diagnose adrenal fatigue.
@@andreacoones1587 no it wouldn't some people can experience issue while in a measurement of an acceptable range that can be bad for their health. It's like being pre diabetic but not having full blown diabetes yet.
@@Chris-kr7ggNO. That's irresponsible and inaccurate. Whoever fed you that garbage is actually harming those of us with actual medical disorders of the adrenal glands.
Western doctors will sooner start you on a lifetime regimen of steroids before ever acknowledging HPA Axis Dysfunction. "Adrenal Fatigue" isn't the right term to use, but its very well know that a number of things can cause your HPA to go haywire, which can make you produce either sufficient or insufficient amounts of cortisol. Bruce McEwen was a world renowned endocrinologist who wrote about this spectrum many years ago. This doctor here doesn't say a word about that research. I wonder why.
@@TheLastAnarchist69 thanks for sharing. i unknowingly had this at a less degree more than 4 years ago, then last year was the major crash in my adrenal function.. I didn't know I was stressing myself too much. I am recovering from it now..
I believe that once you notice adrenal insufficiency or crisis, it has already become a "domino effect" and the body is now experiencing a multitude of insufficiency that need to be addressed in order to begin a recovery process. I'm not a English major by far so I hope I used the proper words while trying my best to give a decent answer. I hope that made sense. Good luck if you're struggling with this problem. I know its tough.
If you have secondary adrenal insufficiency then there is a possibility of correcting it and going back to normal. It depends on what caused it. If you have primary there is no cure and you have to take a steroid every day to live.
@@andreacoones1587 I think I have secondary adrenal fatigue . How is it possible to correct it ? Can you still have it even if my potassium and sodium are normal in my blood test ?
@@devinpeirce7152sorry, but secondary adrenal fatigue is also not real. I have secondary Adrenal insufficiency. This was caused by a brain tumor that gave me Cushing’s Disease. Once tumor was removed, I am in remission but adrenally insufficient, so my body does not produce any cortisol. You could also get secondary adrenal insufficiency from taking steroids for a long period of time from another condition like autoimmune disease. Then once you stop taking them your body sort of forgets how to make its own cortisol, in which case you would try to slowly wean off the hydrocortisone and trick your adrenal glands into producing once again. Which is possible. In my case, it looks like I will be SAI forever 😏 Going on 3 years and I don’t recommend it to anyone. 🙃
If you're cortisol levels are normal you do not have adrenal fatigue. Got alot of people self diagnosing and are desperate for a label. I'm not saying there isn't anything wrong with you but if it doesn't reflect in the blood test you don't have it.
I’ve been hospitalized twice with adrenal crisis. It’s no joke.
I'm 4 months in and it's pure hell. I have hormone imbalanced anxiety and extreme fatigue it's so discouraging... How are you being treated?
@@Ela-eh3hm Perhaps try seeing a Naturopath or Functional Medicine Doctor.
I've been hospitalized twice for a week, and several times (like 7) for a day, with adrenal crisis.
I don't even have the impression I'm recovering.
@Truth Speaker
(Raw) Carnivore has REALLLLLY help me with C-PTSD ( including but not limited to anxiety chronic depression extreme rage extreme sadness extreme fear)... sadly has Not helped with the bad fatigue.
Who diagnosed you
This would have been more informative if they gave some numbers re; adrenal 'fatigue' vs adrenal crisis. I just got out of the hospital with this issue - they noted my cortisal # was 12.... is that 'fatigue' or crisis???
I feel like i have adrenal insufficiency but im not sure. How do I find out?
Doctor forgot to mention Congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia make low cortisol.
That falls under adrenal insufficiency. It's one of the actual medical diagnoses that falls under the diagnosis of adrenal insufficiency.
How do you test for this condition.?
They talk about not enough Cortisol but what about too much? I thought that’s what causes Adrenal Fatigue. I get it’s a misnomer, but clearly too much Cortisol is a concern too Right?
Cushing
No such thing as adrenal fatigue. I had Cushing's for eight years and my adrenals just produced more and more cortisol.
To much causes Cushing's disease.
My cortisol is up and down during the whole day constantly and is making me crazy because this not my only health issue and because we have one whole body and every thing is connect so is like a domino fall each piece started falling one by one until everything is really down
@@sirenagarrido3836it's normal for your cortisol to go up and down through the day.
They need to mention that certain medications for other things can cause cortisol to go up and or down.
Fritz Smith Opoids can cause cortisol to plunge too low. To a point where it's dangerous. I know of 2 people that have had this happen to them. They were tired all the time, lost too much weight, etc and didn't know why. They weren't from doctor to doctor thinking they were sick. Doctors took years to figure out that the cause was the opioids. They were both taking it for spine pain. One was on 2 pills a day for 6 months and the other 4 a day for a few years. Adderol can mess with cortisol too. Caffeine in coffee can make the body think it's under attack and raises cortisol too.
Fritz Smith Yup. I have low cortisol and the fight or flight. It's the worst. From way too much stress for way too long. I found a great doctor on TH-cam who has great info on Cortisol and adrenals. Doctor Eric Berg. I also really like Dr. Lam. They talk about how to raise cortisol. Like relaxing as much as possible. Light exercise, where you don't think about anything but the beauty around you as you walk. Meditation. As stress free as possible. High dose Vitamin C IV's, along with other vitamins and micronutrients in the IV are what finally gave me energy again. Magnesium at night helps me tons with the panic feeling. Detoxing too. You probably know more than I do on this subject but I really hope that helps in some way. Facebook also has a Adrenal Fatigue group that has good info.
Fritz Smith and thank you for that info!! I find myself craving sugar out of the blue now. Adrenal fatigue is the worst. I went from running 10 miles a day and a really good life to not having energy to leave my house. I'd get lost going places I knew well, panic, depression, anxiety, etc. I have energy from the IV's but now trying to fix the rest. It's definitely possible to fix and the body follows the brain. 😊
Fritz Smith Fritz thank you! I appreciate what you've sent so much! I've read tons about this in the last few months but it's hard to remember what I've read with the brain fog.
I'm curious why you asked about the antibiotics because, yes! My doctor misdiagnosed me with Lyme disease and put a picc line in me and gave me 4 times more than the normal amount of ceftriaxone for a month. They found high CFS Protein in my spinal tap. This makes sense due to the inflammation part that comes along with cortisol.
I was having slight symptoms off and on before the picc line but I also took antibiotics off and on growing up to keep my skin clear. The antibiotics from the picc line definitely made me become much worse. I went from tired every few days to exhausted every single day to the point where I couldn't function.
I got sicker and sicker from the picc line and that's when the doctors realized that I don't have Lyme disease. I'm sure those antibiotics messed up my gut even more.
I also think the messed up cortisol might have been brought on due to getting 4 major shots of cortisone within one year. I've read that adrenal fatigue happens to many athletes who get a lot of Cortizone shots and to performers on Broadway they get sick. That's when I realized that I was being Cortizone shots for my job as well. I do voice work for a living and whenever I was sick and lost my voice, my doctor gave me a major cortisone shot. Within an hour, my voice would come completely back, sounded good and I could work. A few hours after, I'd be sick again. I never knew what I was being given at the time and just blindly trusted that doctors wouldn't give me anything that could hurt me. I've had a huge wake up call.
Sorry for the long message. I'm still in fight or flight mode but have been finally coming out of it slowly in the last month.
@@fritzsmith3296 cyproflexin
Apparently the word fatigue is needed in the medical world for a very specific job or jobs. The don’t want it applied to adrenal glands because of this need. Ok then, medical community, please help us with lower levels of cortisol BEFORE we are “in crisis “.
You won't go into ADRENAL CRISIS from adrenal fatigue. You would need to have the actual medical diagnosis of ADRENAL INSUFFICIENCY to actually be worried about ADRENAL CRISIS. Adrenal fatigue is NOT a medical diagnosis and it isn't life threatening like the actual medical diagnoses of ADRENAL INSUFFICIENCY and ADRENAL CRISIS.
It's sympathetic vs. Parasympathetic, it's a much easier starting point!
What’s that got to do with an Addison’s Crisis? It’s a straightforward reaction to an Adrenal Cortisol shortage,I ended up in a high dependency unit with a central line into my heart, I was in a state of collapse with cardiovascular shutdown constant vomiting and shitting myself to death.. all due to a case of undiagnosed Addisons Disease.
Glucose or the lack of it doesn’t cause Addisons Disease.
@@dennyferguson7854they don't care that we will actually die. They want everyone to feel bad because they have a group of symptoms that some jerk decided to call adrenal fatigue. It's messed things up seriously for those of us with the actual medical diagnoses that fall under adrenal insufficiency. Those with the non-medical diagnosis of adrenal fatigue have no clue how much more scary it is because of the inappropriate fake diagnosis they have, and how much work was being done, and is being done, to educate about adrenal insufficiency. It's so dangerous and irresponsible using the terms "adrenal fatigue".
important information for sure- thank you
1:20 low blood pressure, low blood sugar etc...condition explained 'till 1:46
Thank you💖👍
I have low cortisol and high pythanic acid?
SW Alexander Please check out my comment a few above yours. I am not a medical professional, but you may want to look into the book.
Wd u like help
Dr you didn't get the expression fatigue!! It "means" fatigue due to Adrenal issue
Exactly
No it doesn't. That's Primary/secondary adrenal insufficiency that's diagnosed by a Endocrinologist with a 8am cortisol and ACTH stimulation blood test. Not by Naturopath or Functional Medicine. Also not by saliva or finger pricks cortisol tests. A recent review of 58 studies concluded that there is no scientific basis to associate adrenal impairment as a cause of fatigue. The authors report the studies had some limitations. The research included used many different biological markers and questionnaires to detect adrenal fatigue. For example, salivary cortisol is one of the most common ordered tests used to make a diagnosis. The cortisol level, when checked four times in a 24-hour period, was no different between fatigued and healthy patients in 61.5% of the studies. The review raises questions around what should get tested (blood, urine, and/or saliva), the best time, how often, what ranges are considered normal, and how reliable the tests are, to name a few. In summary, there is no formal criteria to define and diagnose adrenal fatigue.
Then it would be called either Addison's or Cushing's.... Not adrenal fatigue.
@@andreacoones1587 no it wouldn't some people can experience issue while in a measurement of an acceptable range that can be bad for their health. It's like being pre diabetic but not having full blown diabetes yet.
@@Chris-kr7ggNO. That's irresponsible and inaccurate. Whoever fed you that garbage is actually harming those of us with actual medical disorders of the adrenal glands.
I'm adrenal insufficient and on steroids for life 😭😭😭
Send me ur no may b I can solve it for u
@@DK-sg3oe solve it???
@@paulaparkman5127 yes v will give it a try let's discuss first depends on ur symptoms
@@DK-sg3oe left adrenal gland removed with tumor and right one doesn't work
@@DK-sg3oe no thank you
adrenal fatigue aka hpa axis dysregulation is a functional disease.
Western doctors will sooner start you on a lifetime regimen of steroids before ever acknowledging HPA Axis Dysfunction. "Adrenal Fatigue" isn't the right term to use, but its very well know that a number of things can cause your HPA to go haywire, which can make you produce either sufficient or insufficient amounts of cortisol.
Bruce McEwen was a world renowned endocrinologist who wrote about this spectrum many years ago. This doctor here doesn't say a word about that research. I wonder why.
@@TheLastAnarchist69 thanks for sharing. i unknowingly had this at a less degree more than 4 years ago, then last year was the major crash in my adrenal function.. I didn't know I was stressing myself too much. I am recovering from it now..
Nope
@@Forgedinfire57 what do u mean No
@@janjamesramos247 there is no such thing as adrenal fatigue.
So we just have to higher our cortisol them and will be good. ?
I believe that once you notice adrenal insufficiency or crisis, it has already become a "domino effect" and the body is now experiencing a multitude of insufficiency that need to be addressed in order to begin a recovery process. I'm not a English major by far so I hope I used the proper words while trying my best to give a decent answer. I hope that made sense. Good luck if you're struggling with this problem. I know its tough.
If you have secondary adrenal insufficiency then there is a possibility of correcting it and going back to normal. It depends on what caused it. If you have primary there is no cure and you have to take a steroid every day to live.
@@andreacoones1587 I think I have secondary adrenal fatigue . How is it possible to correct it ? Can you still have it even if my potassium and sodium are normal in my blood test ?
@@devinpeirce7152sorry, but secondary adrenal fatigue is also not real. I have secondary Adrenal insufficiency. This was caused by a brain tumor that gave me Cushing’s Disease. Once tumor was removed, I am in remission but adrenally insufficient, so my body does not produce any cortisol.
You could also get secondary adrenal insufficiency from taking steroids for a long period of time from another condition like autoimmune disease. Then once you stop taking them your body sort of forgets how to make its own cortisol, in which case you would try to slowly wean off the hydrocortisone and trick your adrenal glands into producing once again. Which is possible. In my case, it looks like I will be SAI forever 😏 Going on 3 years and I don’t recommend it to anyone. 🙃
@@devinpeirce7152adrenal fatigue has nothing to do with adrenal INSUFFICIENCY or adrenal CRISIS.