Awesome extreme bo staff karate form. Madison, Wisconsin Mr. Mike Welch, 4th degree black belt. Once ranked #1 in the world in weapons & bo. This won him Grand Champion with perfect score @ Southern Wisconsin Open...Sep.06.
I wish people would stop comparing tournament and xtreme competitions to real life. Apples and oranges. This was, by far one of the BEST creative Bo forms I've ever seen. By the way, most point fighters and weapon competitors are very conditioned athletes and would probably destroy the average person in a fight.
He did drop it during one comp...Broke his own bo, had to borrow someone else's, not used to the feel, and it slid off his hand. He kept going with no pause, threw an amazing trick set, and half the crowd thought he'd put the bo down on purpose to throw the tricks. Now THAT is a truely amazing performance!!
I'm very proud to say I trained with him. He is great with the bo. He is a great fighter. He is a great martial artist. Please do us all a favor and just stop talking. Anybody who knows Mike knows how hard he works. It appears that not many people on this thread know him. Oh yeah, and everyone who thinks he can't fight, come down to sparring some night. You'll see... : )
Yes and yes. That's where I picked up the knowledge that outside of wartime fighters-no matter what style they did-were recognised and celebrated as athletes. And I doubt this would be ridiculed, there is such a thing as appreciation for the fruits of hard work in Okinawa.
And for those who think this shouldn't be counted as martial arts, martial arts isn't all about the fighting. Its about growing physically mentally practice and dedication. This clearly shows practice and dedication, so I think it is martial arts. Alot of you people are just afraid because you know your punches and kicks aren't gonna make it in the competitions and such. And don't give me bull on how you don't compete. You wouldn't have come across this video if you aren't a competitor.
I watched Mike Welch walk into my karate school the first day when he was a little guy. Every single person that has said a bad word about him on this post needs to stop. This person has more drive and dedication than anyone I have ever met. Do you think he started out like this and was this good from the start? Nope. He started out doing front kicks and punches like the rest of us.
The difference is that he never gave up. This takes more work than most of you will ever comprehend. He always gives all he has. Nobody works harder. I can promise you that. Mike didn't do this competition so that you people can make fun of him or put him down. He did it for himself. And I'm sure he could care less about your opinions.
Nice, job man. LOL look at all the people that fealt the need to say something negative. It is obvious that you have devoted some serious time to your skills and training. It has paid off. Thanks for helping new and young students grow and stretch with new material and bold moves. The Creative kata divisions need more people like you.
All of you martial artist out there who are criticizing this as not practical or useful should just keep that to yourself. Did he say that this was practical or meant to fight. No, its merely a form for entertainment purposes. Of all people I would think martial artist would understand diversity and appreciating other forms of the martial arts.
holy crap. i normally dont like bo forms, but damn this was really effin good. taht side kick was like icing on teh cake too. all the negative comments are friggin ignorant. this is impressive if u understand it or not.
Sifu, this was a demonstration technique, not a fighting technique. These competitions typically have both in several different forms to include fighting. "Baton twirling meets acrobatics" is an accurate analogy if there was a separate section for fighting with batons...I know some of the old schools martial artists don't get the demonstration side of the sport, but it is still part of the sport none the less. It is the individual taking skills and techniques far beyond what they have been taught. Don't diminish the hard work of the athletes...
And for the ppl who think this isn't useful in a real fight, you're wrong. This guy obviously trained long and hard to be able to pull this off. It means he has repeated every single move of this spectacle over a hundred times. It made him agile, his muscles and heart became stronger, his endurance increased and obviously his balance and coördination are flawless. Besides you can see this guy has an intense martial arts background. In other words, this guy has the upper hand in real fights
Hey can you tell me what kind of bo staff that is? Fiberglass? Alluminum? Ash?Plastic But either way you are wickdly awesome!!!!~~~ Please reply fast!!~
Depends on your view. Any type of martial art that involves rules is going to deviate from the true spirit of martial arts. Any martial art that requires money to study (whether in testing fees, training fees, or otherwise) is likewise going to deviate. That rules out the vast majority of martial arts these days. Performance arts are the new martial arts.
great job indeed. super jealous here!!!! i better start talking about how "you cant use these strikes on the street" "where is the tradition is ma" ahahhahaaha
thats a performance in which points are awarded for tricks and flair. also, im pretty sure that guy is a karate guy, which means hes more into japanese culture. plus, i do dragon pole and eight point staff, both chinese, and he uses alot of the same techniques we train in, just sped up much faster, thus showing his skill and extensive practice.
Great performance a lot of people seem to like saying its karate but its not as someone stated before karate means open hand defense clearly his hands are closed around his weapon lol and its a performance in an open tournament for grand so its where attitude creativity and physical ability all come together in one performance he did great im 15 years old and karate is my whole life guys like this guy and ross levine are like idols to me i strive to be better than them i actually train with jad
Man, I was there when he did that form, there was a girl that went before him and I thought she had won it but when he came out he dominated it like nothing. Awsome Mr. Welch, and you're also a great sparrer, I'm looking forward to sparring you at the next tournament, I think you know who I am.
yes it does, but most karate classes have some form of weapons they teach, mostly kobodu from what i belive, the reason for this was in feudal japan, learning just hand to hand wasnt enough, this is because all weapons were banned except to the samurai. and it is reaaaly difficult to defend a highly trained warrior with a blade with just your hands.....so as a side art theyd learn to use their farm tools to defend themselves.
Of course he made it up. Traditional katas don't use weapons this way. They used to wear armour so using the bo in this fancy way will do the armoured opponent no harm. Real bo katas have a good amount of thrusting (to kill), whereas this kata here is just fancy spinning.
If you look at a lot of the bigger competitions, people enter in traditional and XMA weapons. Jackson Rudolph for example. He's amazing with the bo regardless of what he's doing. Also, the majority of the time, they do practice with a heavier bo, so they can get that speed. XMA isn't a real martial arts, but it should not be looked down upon. The majority of people who do XMA, still continue to practice traditionally. XMA is for entertainment purposes, and obviously would not be used combatively
i hate it when people say they could beat each other without pointless flipping. i mean, a great martial artist once said "strength doesnt matter but skill does".
Mucha energía desperdiciada un verdadero artista marcial no hace tantas muecas y gestos por lo regular son serenos fluidos suaves aguiles y a la ves explosivos y más veloces.
Actually, there are Bo forms in Karate, at least, there are in Shotokan karate, which is one of the more traditional styles of karate around these days. I believe it was introduced in the 50's by Hirokazu Kanazawa, and he's not just some Shotokan practitioner. Karate has even more weapons, I know some styles utilize the Ton-fa. Sadly, I'll have to soon give up Karate myself, so I will probably never get weapons training. 15 years is still young, be glad you started at an early age. Osu.
the only thing he doesn't understand about karate is. karate isn't just about striking and triwly flips. it is about listening, and waiting for your surroundings, because someone who is patient and calm could easily beat him up.
Martial arts is about fighting. You can grow physically and mentally in dance with practice and dedication. This is more like a dance than it is a martial art. Anyone who has been taught any nominal skill in "fighting" with a staff could kill this guy.
@shotokiss In spite of practicing with tonfa and bo I've never really considered myself to be a student of either weapon, they've always just been a training tool for improving co-ordination in my eyes. It could be that Kyokushin isn't as traditional as other schools or because I've never cared too much for weaponry, I've just never considered them seperate. Maybe they did karate and now do TSD and misunderstood your question...maybe they're full of it...?
Very cool, but I think were he in Okinawa, I doubt he would be a 4th Dan yet. Gifted yes, but you have to spend a lot of time in each belt before promotion in the styles I am familiar with. Its basically a minimum of 9 years after achieving shodan to get to 4th dan. Thats based on what looks like to be a 30-32 year old man who did not start as a small child. I could be totally mistaken of course.
i can move that fast...but i cant do the flips yet....im still learning as much as the mind can learn about it....to move that fast takes a lot of practice
Bobby Table , you are quite correct and my apologies . martial arts is evolving and keeping people interested is what's important. I must say though if your going to use a weapon for demo at this speed ,you need to master control first as I've seen some serious injuries to by standers at Wushu comps. This is why some comp organizers don't allow fast freestyle demos. Cheers
This is REALLY impressive! I have great admiration for the discipline it must have taken for this man to perform this routine!
One of the ninja turtles forgot his shell at home. :-)
HE A BEAST WITH THT STAFF FO REAL
Anyone know how to contact him to join our brotherhood?
The invisible enemy definitely died.
i love bo staff is my favorite disiplin
Damn that's so awesome! I watched it so many times and I'm still amazed
I wish people would stop comparing tournament and xtreme competitions to real life. Apples and oranges. This was, by far one of the BEST creative Bo forms I've ever seen. By the way, most point fighters and weapon competitors are very conditioned athletes and would probably destroy the average person in a fight.
That was very good. Very good handling and tricks. That form def had it all. Very good
He did drop it during one comp...Broke his own bo, had to borrow someone else's, not used to the feel, and it slid off his hand. He kept going with no pause, threw an amazing trick set, and half the crowd thought he'd put the bo down on purpose to throw the tricks. Now THAT is a truely amazing performance!!
Such a classic extreme bo form. 7 years later and i'm still in awe.
I'm very proud to say I trained with him. He is great with the bo. He is a great fighter. He is a great martial artist. Please do us all a favor and just stop talking. Anybody who knows Mike knows how hard he works. It appears that not many people on this thread know him. Oh yeah, and everyone who thinks he can't fight, come down to sparring some night. You'll see... : )
Easily the best I've ever seen. Just amazing.
That's the best Bo routine I have ever seen. If the Bo don't get you, then the flying kick will.
Yes and yes. That's where I picked up the knowledge that outside of wartime fighters-no matter what style they did-were recognised and celebrated as athletes. And I doubt this would be ridiculed, there is such a thing as appreciation for the fruits of hard work in Okinawa.
this guy is the best person i had ever seen with bo staff
i've watched this video so many times, and everytime i see it, it's just like... woooow. lol. awesome job. keep it up
And for those who think this shouldn't be counted as martial arts, martial arts isn't all about the fighting. Its about growing physically mentally practice and dedication. This clearly shows practice and dedication, so I think it is martial arts. Alot of you people are just afraid because you know your punches and kicks aren't gonna make it in the competitions and such. And don't give me bull on how you don't compete. You wouldn't have come across this video if you aren't a competitor.
Surprised at the negative comments.
It shows amazing skill and discipline.
I watched Mike Welch walk into my karate school the first day when he was a little guy. Every single person that has said a bad word about him on this post needs to stop. This person has more drive and dedication than anyone I have ever met. Do you think he started out like this and was this good from the start? Nope. He started out doing front kicks and punches like the rest of us.
The difference is that he never gave up. This takes more work than most of you will ever comprehend. He always gives all he has. Nobody works harder. I can promise you that. Mike didn't do this competition so that you people can make fun of him or put him down. He did it for himself. And I'm sure he could care less about your opinions.
Nice, job man. LOL look at all the people that fealt the need to say something negative. It is obvious that you have devoted some serious time to your skills and training. It has paid off. Thanks for helping new and young students grow and stretch with new material and bold moves. The Creative kata divisions need more people like you.
Awesome stuff! And if by any chance you know what the song was in the background i'd love to train to it lmao
id like to know as well
Wow, impeccable level of coordination.
All of you martial artist out there who are criticizing this as not practical or useful should just keep that to yourself. Did he say that this was practical or meant to fight. No, its merely a form for entertainment purposes. Of all people I would think martial artist would understand diversity and appreciating other forms of the martial arts.
holy crap. i normally dont like bo forms, but damn this was really effin good. taht side kick was like icing on teh cake too. all the negative comments are friggin ignorant. this is impressive if u understand it or not.
EXCELENTTTTT....PERFECTTT....
the whirlwinds are like explosions ,awesome
Sifu, this was a demonstration technique, not a fighting technique. These competitions typically have both in several different forms to include fighting. "Baton twirling meets acrobatics" is an accurate analogy if there was a separate section for fighting with batons...I know some of the old schools martial artists don't get the demonstration side of the sport, but it is still part of the sport none the less. It is the individual taking skills and techniques far beyond what they have been taught. Don't diminish the hard work of the athletes...
Holy shit that was awesome!
And for the ppl who think this isn't useful in a real fight, you're wrong.
This guy obviously trained long and hard to be able to pull this off.
It means he has repeated every single move of this spectacle over a hundred times.
It made him agile, his muscles and heart became stronger, his endurance
increased and obviously his balance and coördination are flawless.
Besides you can see this guy has an intense martial arts background.
In other words, this guy has the upper hand in real fights
Wow...this guyz one of my new HERO'S
this guy was just going crazy
in real fight i would love to see him do all that
muay thai for life
*Jaw drops to the ground.......
dam dude, simply amazing
Hey can you tell me what kind of bo staff that is?
Fiberglass? Alluminum? Ash?Plastic
But either way you are wickdly awesome!!!!~~~
Please reply fast!!~
Depends on your view. Any type of martial art that involves rules is going to deviate from the true spirit of martial arts. Any martial art that requires money to study (whether in testing fees, training fees, or otherwise) is likewise going to deviate. That rules out the vast majority of martial arts these days.
Performance arts are the new martial arts.
That form was freakin' awesome!
Wow, nice job on the Bo Staff. I especially liked how you liked the Raiz with your form, made it look pretty sick and easy =P
great job indeed. super jealous here!!!! i better start talking about how "you cant use these strikes on the street" "where is the tradition is ma" ahahhahaaha
The new player select of "SOUL CALIBUR 2020"....GUASSHH
wow. very inspiring, much dedication, meditation. centre.balance.
Awesome job, and way to go!!!
Keep it up!!!
man, this guy is awesomm, respect
What is the name of the song used during this kata?
@DrkRonin19 is it white oak? cause mine is, or was... i did a ground strike and it snapped
holy shit... thats freakin awesome!!
thats a performance in which points are awarded for tricks and flair. also, im pretty sure that guy is a karate guy, which means hes more into japanese culture. plus, i do dragon pole and eight point staff, both chinese, and he uses alot of the same techniques we train in, just sped up much faster, thus showing his skill and extensive practice.
Wonderful.. Even I prefer traditional kobudo, this looks very impressive... Fantastic work..
thats something i can agree on martial arts and all its followers for life
Nice job, Mike. =)
dude that guy's my hero
Great performance a lot of people seem to like saying its karate but its not as someone stated before karate means open hand defense clearly his hands are closed around his weapon lol and its a performance in an open tournament for grand so its where attitude creativity and physical ability all come together in one performance he did great im 15 years old and karate is my whole life guys like this guy and ross levine are like idols to me i strive to be better than them i actually train with jad
Go! Go! Power Ranger! Haha! Cool form dude!
Man, I was there when he did that form, there was a girl that went before him and I thought she had won it but when he came out he dominated it like nothing.
Awsome Mr. Welch, and you're also a great sparrer, I'm looking forward to sparring you at the next tournament, I think you know who I am.
holy shnikees, that was frelling good!
It surprises me y ppl argue over which martial arts is the best. There is no best style, it only depends on the person practicing it.
holy shit dude fuckin awsome... loved the spin kicks and flips w/ the bow!
Amazing. Loved it
Well executed! 👊🏼👍🏻
Amazing Form with Bo Sir!
WOW, he is very talented, keep it up :]
This is my dream martial arts to learn
this is cool. we haven't this in brazil. I wish I could practice it.
DUDE! I always wanted to be able to be that good with the staff.
hes the best ive ever seen
A bo held buckets, a sword a sword, a cama a farm tool
The last kia shows power and concentration.
yes it does, but most karate classes have some form of weapons they teach, mostly kobodu from what i belive, the reason for this was in feudal japan, learning just hand to hand wasnt enough, this is because all weapons were banned except to the samurai. and it is reaaaly difficult to defend a highly trained warrior with a blade with just your hands.....so as a side art theyd learn to use their farm tools to defend themselves.
i want to be on HIS team! most impressive display i have ever seen.
how was it not properly used?
Of course he made it up. Traditional katas don't use weapons this way. They used to wear armour so using the bo in this fancy way will do the armoured opponent no harm. Real bo katas have a good amount of thrusting (to kill), whereas this kata here is just fancy spinning.
that was excellent.
If you look at a lot of the bigger competitions, people enter in traditional and XMA weapons. Jackson Rudolph for example. He's amazing with the bo regardless of what he's doing. Also, the majority of the time, they do practice with a heavier bo, so they can get that speed. XMA isn't a real martial arts, but it should not be looked down upon. The majority of people who do XMA, still continue to practice traditionally. XMA is for entertainment purposes, and obviously would not be used combatively
Um, I'm speechless.
I want to be able to do that!
Very acrobatic but is it combat technique
i hate it when people say they could beat each other without pointless flipping. i mean, a great martial artist once said "strength doesnt matter but skill does".
Mucha energía desperdiciada un verdadero artista marcial no hace tantas muecas y gestos por lo regular son serenos fluidos suaves aguiles y a la ves explosivos y más veloces.
i was impressed
Damn! That's more extreme than Mt Dew.
the song is called: "Remember the name" by Mike shinoda's side band "Fort minor"
Actually, there are Bo forms in Karate, at least, there are in Shotokan karate, which is one of the more traditional styles of karate around these days.
I believe it was introduced in the 50's by Hirokazu Kanazawa, and he's not just some Shotokan practitioner.
Karate has even more weapons, I know some styles utilize the Ton-fa.
Sadly, I'll have to soon give up Karate myself, so I will probably never get weapons training.
15 years is still young, be glad you started at an early age.
Osu.
the only thing he doesn't understand about karate is. karate isn't just about striking and triwly flips. it is about listening, and waiting for your surroundings, because someone who is patient and calm could easily beat him up.
Tang soo do is a form of karate im not sure why you disagree but it is most definately its own martial arts whether its a brach of tae kwon do or not
that was amazing
Martial arts is about fighting. You can grow physically and mentally in dance with practice and dedication. This is more like a dance than it is a martial art.
Anyone who has been taught any nominal skill in "fighting" with a staff could kill this guy.
@shotokiss In spite of practicing with tonfa and bo I've never really considered myself to be a student of either weapon, they've always just been a training tool for improving co-ordination in my eyes. It could be that Kyokushin isn't as traditional as other schools or because I've never cared too much for weaponry, I've just never considered them seperate. Maybe they did karate and now do TSD and misunderstood your question...maybe they're full of it...?
Very cool, but I think were he in Okinawa, I doubt he would be a 4th Dan yet. Gifted yes, but you have to spend a lot of time in each belt before promotion in the styles I am familiar with. Its basically a minimum of 9 years after achieving shodan to get to 4th dan. Thats based on what looks like to be a 30-32 year old man who did not start as a small child. I could be totally mistaken of course.
PERFECT!
i can move that fast...but i cant do the flips yet....im still learning as much as the mind can learn about it....to move that fast takes a lot of practice
Bobby Table , you are quite correct and my apologies . martial arts is evolving and keeping people interested is what's important. I must say though if your going to use a weapon for demo at this speed ,you need to master control first as I've seen some serious injuries to by standers at Wushu comps. This is why some comp organizers don't allow fast freestyle demos. Cheers
It's exactly what it is dude, a FORM. It's not supposed to be a representation of a fight. Regardless, he would kick anybody's ass in a staff fight.
can anyone tell me the name of the song at the beginning pls??
Excellent!!!
Excellent!
Ich will weiss wie mache das! I want to know how to do that!
What's the song's name at the beginning of the form?
yup, its called remember the name by fort minor.
i am in love!
No, the quality is fine. He just spins that thing like a damn turbine lol!!!
and now the bunkai with a regulation (weapon) weight bo???