Firewood Bundles...Are They Worth The Time?
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Selling firewood bundles has proven to be profitable! I entered the firewood bundle market this year and have already found they can add $$ to your overall operation. Like most things, there is a learning curve in becoming proficient making bundles and, after a short amount of time, I have become pretty fast making these. I can crank out about 40 in an hour by just working steady by myself.
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You know, i am aware that all these pieces of equipment don't come cheap. However, for the people that will spend a bunch of time trying to invent their own bundler instead of just buying one. I think those who can afford one and not buying one are missing the boat.
I bought a cheaper manual John's welding bundler based on that wood guys recommendation, and we couldn't be happier with the investment. All that hand tying, and bags just can't touch a bundler, no way, no how
Great comment Tom. Thanks!
Having made bundles for over 10 yr. I never stop the machine to tear the stretch wrap. Instead when it is on the 3rd wrap I simply push my hand through the stretch wrap while it is tight. Goes a lot faster. Give it a try. Hope it helps.
Thanks for showing the wrapping machine, my only negative is adding plastic to the world. Is there no natural rapping, biodegradable methods? EG. Rope etc.
Thanks Steve. I appreciate your comments and I think you raise an excellent point. The benefits of this wrap is it stretches and squeezes the wood for tight packing. Im not sure of a biodegradable solution other than bags or twine...both of which significantly changes the process. Joe
I'd rather have dipshits wad up some plastic and throw it out rather than plastic twine. Animals can swallow the twine.
How fast does sisal decompose? Is it strong enough?
thank you for your video, I live in BC Canada and have been selling bundles for several years now at a road side stand, very interesting to see someone doing the same thing.
Great videos chock full of useful information. Your equipment seems well thought out and of good quality. Hope you do well. Cheers
Thanks Pilot. I hope to keep the videos up. Please subscribe if you haven't yet. Joe
Great information that you shared, along with working with the bundle wrappwr
Great bundler, and love the speed loader !!! Should fly with two people. Thanx for. the video. You got me thinking. hard about bundling.
You have given me good ideas to work on not less the bundle and plastic so thank you
Hi Harry!!!! (my apologies!) Thanks for watching an the kind words. I wish you the best in your plans! Please subscribe if you haven't already. I hope to have some more cool vids in the coming days. Joe
@@ohiowoodburner its Harry not Henry lol
@@hardwoodharry6364 ARRGHH... So sorry Harry! I fixed it. I won't let that happen again! Where do you live? Joe
@@ohiowoodburner I am stuck in Ireland at the moment but I am live in Georgia
@@hardwoodharry6364 I hope you can get back home safely soon. Safe travels. Joe
Great machine Great information,firewood in UK is sold in builders bags or smaller bags from fuel stations quality varies dramaticaly,species,moisture content etc, in Northern France i buy excellent firewood by the stere at a good price delivered, firewood in Normandy is copiced beech ash oak seasoned and produced with great pride like you do.
Greetings Chocksaway from Ohio USA. Thanks for sharing. I love hearing how other parts of the world deal with firewood! Joe
Perhaps adding a piece of butcher block paper under plastic with your logo on it for branding and additional fire starter capabilities
As someone who has bought these bundles in the past, (when I lived in Cleveland) I wouldn't bother with the handles. The wood bundle chest is usually locked and a store associate has to get them anyway. So, there is little issue in getting the consumer to buy the product. The story boy carries them to the car anyways. Sure, you could say the consumer will have issues from the car to the burning area but it isn't something I ever thought about when I bought them. I was just happy to have some good dry wood for Thanksgiving and Christmas...
Thanks for the input Rofl. I think there is a market hidden in the customers who buy bundles. I think there are a number of potential sales in there somewhere. Just have to be able to get to them. Joe
Enjoyed watching your bundling process. Seems like quite a bit of work but when you start the process and get into the zone, I guess then you can crank out quite a few bundles. Have a fine week. 👍🏽🙂 Saw your channel while watching Senior Firewood Hound's channel. NEW SUBSCRIBER!! to show support.
I have a Built Rite firewood prosser they recommend you sell 400 to 500 ricks a season to benefit from it .Also i usually double my money on a load of logs which is great
Thanks for the comment Dewey! Built Rite's analysis reminds me of what one of my restaurant owners said about trying to make a buck in food service. He said it's more about what you buy it for then what you sell it for. He said this is mostly true bc restaurants are very competitive within their markets and don't have much wiggle room on their menu price. They look to raise profits by their cost of goods. I argue that, at least for me, there is more to buying a processor than its ROI. To me, I need one to keep me in the game longer. I'm not getting any younger and I need this machine to do the grunt work for me! lol. Stay cool Dewey. Joe
Great video! Love that “Twister”. I am considering selling bundles as well. Just curious, what do you sell them to the campgrounds and convenience stores for and what do they charge for them? I appreciate you covering all these great topics! Keep up the good work!
It seems retailers shoot for a 40% markup. I look at what neighboring stores sell their's for and calculate in that general area. My stores range from 3.50 to $4. They sell approx $6.99 . Campgrounds, now that I think of it, are about the same $$ and markup. I put more wood in the camp bundles but the wood cost me less. Joe
@@ohiowoodburner you could consider putting up a road side wood display with payment can thing. When we would go camping, I would buy there if I came across them to support people first and it's often more convenient. God bless 🌻🏵️🌷🦋🔥💪😃👍
Good morning, bundling has been a game changer for me, customer wanted convenience and it has paid off.
I agree. I went into it very reluctant. I have quickly determined there is a bright future with them. They are here to stay! Thanks for your support Mark. Stay cool.
what a great process thanks ! i have been thinking about a small business but just not ready yet .. really like the way you explain , about the tools and the way you do your business and what works for you . Joe from California ..
Glad it was helpful Joe Cal!
Great job keep up the good work love your videos thank you
One of the bundle handles melted a drip on my finger after someone threw the log with the handle stapled to it into the smoker, and I removed it a second too late. The handles are a law suit waiting to happen. A guy here sells firewood in a mesh bag like a heavy onion bag.
I agree about the handles. Could be an accident waiting to happen.I tried the onion bags and I still have a number of them. They just didn't look good...you couldn't really see the product inside. There is A LOT of firewood sold in them though! Thanks for watching Smasher...please subscribe if you haven't done so yet! Joe
Very good explanations. Just wish there was something other than plastic shrink wrap to use
There are always bags but they are much more expensive. Of course you don't need a machine to bag them but I think the customer can't see the wood as good when they are in bags. Joe
Very Nice! Suggestion....add some kindling to each bundle?
Hey Goob... Thanks for the kind words. I don't put kindling in but the "smalls" I make go into some of the bundles. This wood is very dry so it will light fast for them. I sell kindling and will be posting my process soon. Joe
What an amazingly helpful video! 🔥🔥Thank you!! 🌻🦋🏵️❤️🌷💪😃👍
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Would be fabulous if people had common sense and didn’t toss the wrapping into the fire . I like that machine to keep some wood dry for the cabin
Nice set up & explaining on how you do things as well..
Thanks Daniel. I appreciate your support. Joe
. : your welcome.. Happy father's day Joe.
Good tips what campgrounds do you sell to in ohio ?
Thanks Cole. I sell to Mosquito Lake SP Marina. Sales were odd this year bc of COVID and the park eventually closed the road that connects the camp ground to the marina. Joe
Here in Illinois there are only 5 pieces in the bundle, most very small. I am fortunate that I have trees available to cut. Only dead trees
How you doing Little Blitz? Hello in Illinois...nice to have you with the channel. I hope you are doing well. Joe
Chuck wouldn’t appreciate the negative comments about bundling speed. I have 1 worker making 65+ and hour and another 20 year old lady making 50+ an hour. Also twisters are made in Mora Minnesota not Wisconsin
Oops... did I say Wisc? Lol. Got that wrong. If a person can make 65+ an hour that is FLYING! Maybe if I had some help, used the speed loaders, and didn't worry much about the looks I could get close but doubtful. Joe
I bundle wood for a business I can bundle more then that a hour. I can have in 3 hours I can do 100 we order 3,000 handles. We get them in a big bag of one thousand. In one month I have bundle one thousand in a month
That is a lot of bundling Chris. Wow! I think if I were to do that many I wouln't want to do it anymore! Joe
Have you ever thought about buying a shipping container to store your bundles to keep an inventory of them?
Very good video thank you! 😎👍👍
Sorry. I should have watched the whole video before I opened my mouth. 🙄
I've 3d printed some fairly strong parts with a 20-30% wood fiber PLA. It'd probably take 2 hours or so to print a single handle, but if you got everything dialed in you should be able to print 6-8 in one go on a good sized printer like a creality 3d 1x1ft. You can increase infill to get an idea of required strength (solid would be ridiculous and take longer to print). It can be stained and sanded, under a grand investment but can be a lot of messing around calibrating.
Downside: lets be real everyone is going to burn them.
Hi there how many bundles can u make out of a roll of stretch wrap?
Good morning my friend, good informative video if your into the making budles I need to get something to make bundles easier to make up for my own sales
Hey Matt.. His whole channel is like this and he is positive too. Compared to another channel we both watch..
Thank you Matt. My thought was to be in a position to make professional appearing bundles so I can get more retailers. Campgrounds, of course, don't have as much concern for a nice looking bundle but making them like that closes the door on so many other opportunities. That was the deciding factor in purchasing the Twister. Thanks for watching. Joe.
What does the Twister cost?
@@smokinbutts2 Hi Gene... The Twister costs about $2k. Seems all the wrappers are about the same price. Joe
Very informative,thank you
Thanks Joe. I plan to do more. Thanks for watching. Joe
Why is everyone selling these bundles so cheap!? Around here, Lowe's, Home Depot, and a chain of convenience stores is selling .06CF bags for 8-9.00! I'm wrapping bundles that are just over 1CF for 10 bucks.
I think you touch upon a consistent reality in our industry as a whole. The shame of it is I am able to buy firewood already made, have it delivered and stacked on my land AND still be able to make a profit selling bulk and certainly in bundles. I really think we can all benefit if we move away from commodity based firewood and start selling value added. Joe
Safeway in Alaska charges one dollar pur peace Six dollars plus tax
That is just about the same here. Is it softwoods from local? Or those birch logs from Estonia? Joe
Awesome video on firewood wrapping! I learned alot! Looks like the builder of the twister is 55 minutes north of me in Mora MN. I will be buying a wood splitter this week! (Should have been today, tractor supply said they had it in stock, when wife and I showed up to buy it, they had sold it to someone else!) You have an awesome operation for sure, looks like for the most part, you're having alot of fun!👍👍
What do you sell them for
Between 3.50 and 4.50
I had to get bags because the stores wanted something easier to handle. I buy bulk @ 48 cents/bag which clears a profit of $4.52/bundle.
I tried the bags too. I used onion bags and they did well but the wrapper is more to my liking. My estimates is there is $0.17 stretch wrap in each bundle. But of course the Twister adds to the process for sure!
Cheap 1/2 inch Manila rope 9 inches long, and a air powered stapler 2 shots per end..
Thinking of getting into bundles myself. I’m not into the firewood business yet, I truck logs full time, but I was a logger originally and I miss running saws and also enjoy splitting wood. Crazy, I know. Being that I own the truck and haul off different guys, I have access to some affordable wood and I have a decent splitter but no dump truck or trailer. Im really busy truckin all week and don’t have time to blow out 2 or 3 cords a day during the week so I thought if I could do up and sell a cord or 2 of bundles a week it would satisfy my need to work up wood and maybe even put a little money in the jar. Just curious how you guys work it with your customers, do you sell them the bundles up front for a set price and they are responsible for getting them sold at what ever price they mark up to, or do you set up a display and they handle the sale for a percentage? My concern is theft from outside displays and then the store not covering the cost of stolen bundles.
Great question, hopefully this is covered in a future video.
Hi Kenneth. I appologize for missing this comment... not sure how it happened. There are multiple ways to negotiate a sale to a retailer the trade-off is who is absorbing the loss or what retailers refer to it has shrink. I negotiate a set price for All bundles it becomes their inventory you are responsible for it. I will do a video on this in the future I think this is a great topic
Ohio Wood Burner Ltd it’s ok Joe, I know you’re busy, and as much you try to respond to every one sometimes you’re going to miss one. The fact that you took the time out of your day to go back and respond and answer a question from a few days means a lot to me. I really appreciate it. Love your videos.
@@Thehobbytrucker i sell to campgrounds. we worked out a NET 30 terms. they buy bulk bundles. 200 up to 600. depending on location. we just hand wrap them. but i got it to 35 bundles split n wraped a hour on average. I'll split part a day. then wrap
How much dies it cost for the Bar Code?
I bought 5 codes for like $10. I own the code and put it on all my labels. Joe
this is the first 'wrap' video I have enjoyed
Thanks...I too hadn't liked many of the wrap vids on you tube. There is never enuff of the machine. I was hoping to accomplish that with this vid. Joe
Yes, I don't enjoy most "rap" videos, as much as I liked this "wrap" video🤣🤣🤣
Hi Joe can you please send me the name of your supplier for the stretch wrap I couldn't find it on the one video you posted. I just purchased a Go Fast bundler. Im a subscriber to your channel and really enjoy your videos. Have started a new firewood business in northern Canada.
Here is what I use. This company is very fast shipping and their prices are about the best I have found. Ironically they are from Ohio!
www.packagingsuppliesbymail.com/stretch-wrap/hand-stretch-wrap/cast-hand-stretch-wrap-12-x-1500-x-90-ga-4-rolls.html
Great information. Thanks.
Please no plastic
Good morning Joe, My bundler has been shipped. Thank you for all you do.
After a year of have in it. Any problems or things you don’t like about it?
how much for a case joe?
Great jig. Made it for my son. Works perfect.
Thanks for watching Blue! Joe
Do you let your wood dry before you make bundles. Or can you bundle it up and let it dry. Tank u
AWESOME !
Great show. Thank you for taking the time to explain everything.
I’m not sure if I’m overlooking the link for the plastic wrap can you give that to me please I am also in Ohio would make it nice to get more local
Thx
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@@ohiowoodburner thank you
@@ohiowoodburner what is your thought on using colored wrapping to draw attention to the bundles I just picked up a drive thru/carry out and want to do something to draw attention to the bundles sitting there so they don’t just blend In with the surroundings ?
Thx
Great Channel!!
Thanks for the visit
How about putting in a handle of some sort, that would be a little extra work though
I had thought of that but determined it is not worth the expense and extra step in production. So far I have not had a single request for a handle. Joe
I THINK THAT FIRE BUNDLELS IS A GREAT WAY TO SELL FIRE WOOD, GREAT IDEA.
I prefer net bags. Can't understand why you want keep handling the wood
I enjoy what I do and I'm able to make a living doing it.
@@ohiowoodburner I enjoy getting paid the year after I've done the work. Made a net bag log loader which will help speed up my work. It's great fun until a split log smashes my shin. I like the convenience of the net bags. You've got a lot more wood than me.
twister is made in mora minnesota not Wisconsin
Yup. I misspoke Dean. Thanks for the comment. Joe
I don't like all the plastic being used. We should use something biodegradable like twine.
Probably takes too long.
I am going to make a video making one of these probably a had turn one to start.
How much do you get for a bundle at the camp grounds? You said you get 170 bundles from a full cord.
I get around $3.50 to $4. In theory there are 170 .75cf bundles in a cord. For practical purposes I never had that yield from a cord bc I throw out a lot of logs that don't fit nicely in a bundle. Joe
how much do you get for A bundle
Depends... $3.50 to $4.50
Good morning Joe, I spoke with Candi today and got my Twisster ordered. Thank you.
Great to hear Cesar. you are going to do great with bundles!
Good evening Joe, Hope you had a great Christmas. Hoping for a blessed 2022 for you and your family.
I am in the market to purchase a bundler in the next month or so. Any feed back on the twister would be much appreciated. Thank you. Cesar
The Twister is a very good machine. It has done for me well. Call them and ask for Candi. Make sure you mention OWB. She will be happy to speak w you
I sure will, your help and input is much appreciated. Thank you. Cesar
This is made in Mora Minnesota
Hi Mary. You are right! I hope you are well and staying safe. Joe
just curious, but how far do you ship the bundles to convenience stores for example?
I serve the entire Mahoning Valley which is a three county geographical area in NE Ohio. Prob the max distance is 30 miles one way. Joe
Thanks for your tips and very nice guy
This a great machine.
Thanks Keith. It works well. Joe
"I can do 40-45 bundles per hour"
"Ok everyone that's 30 bundle" as he's on one knee dying!!!
Ok bud pretty sure some of those were already there to top it off need do start carrying them bundles farther or something stacking split wood should be effortless
sorry but I had too
You're killing me Daniel. You made me go back and look at this video to make sure I was accurate. It was hot as heck this day! I can do 40 ish in an hour! Not that I want to right now...maybe in the fall when the temps cool off. thanks for watching. I have high self esteem so no feathers ruffled. lol. Joe
@@ohiowoodburner I'm just busting balls bet telling people what you were doing while working didn't make it easy on you thanks for the lesson had no idea about shrink wrapping fire wood
Thank you for this information
I do 5k bundels a week i cant git ahold of twister i need 2 PURCHASE 4 machine, s .can you help me contact THEM ty.
Hi Kathy. I have found getting a hold of them is difficult. His VM is full and you can't leave a message. I just kept calling and calling until they answered. 5000 a week? Wow! That is awesome. Where are you from? Joe
Im from nw Arkansas (Rogers) THEY called BACK left a message so i called them back lol and not hurd NOTHING BACK yet.
I’m not sure if I missed something but I don’t see how 12” x 12” x 16”= a cubic ft.
It's a little off isn't it Michael! I guess working with 16" logs makes for the discrepency. At least with .75 cf it comes out correctly at 9"x9"x16" ... I have always been told there are 128 1cf bundles in a cord but I have never gotten near that. Too many logs are excluded bc of twist, knots etc. Joe
Ok thanks! So you probably just let it go at 1.3 cubic feet? That wouldn’t bother me. I plan to do this myself but I’ll make a simple bundling rack till I can afford better machinery. I appreciate you and folks like you sharing your story. Have a good day
Doesn't look like you'd get more wood in the 12 inch bundle..
I had a firewood business once. But then cats peed on it. J/k love it
Darn cats! Joe
What do you sell a bundle for?
Hi Ray Ray. My price for bundles varies based upon size labels and the customer. They range from $3.50 to $4.50. I do not sell to the end user otherwise I would sell full retail price for that. Probably $6 for that
@@ohiowoodburner im getting 3.50 and 4.00 a bundle. witch is great. considering my clients like .5 cubic ft. I'm doing a average of 400 bundles a week on top of my mowing contracts. God is good
That is nice
Thanks RG! Joe
Very cool.
Thanks Dave. Check out my vid today. It is all about bundled firewood
Great video!!!Thank you for your time!
My pleasure!
Making kidding
Good job I subscribed
Thanks Will. I am glad to have met you. Joe
Dont tell all the secrets ha ha
Givers give Jody. LOL. It's just how I live my life. Joe
Would it be possible to combine the bundle machine with the processor so you get a round bundle the same as the log?
Hi Keith. I like the way you think! I suspose anything is possible but I am currently looking at my 1990' era VCR blinking 12:00 ! lol. The trend I am seeing in firewood production is new and more exciting machines. There may be a day where the entire process is integrated into such a process. Could be an exciting day. Joe
@@ohiowoodburner Perhaps use net with a handle or a string bag so it will season in the bag. Just thinking out loud here.
Can you have your truck close to your bundler? That way you can load directly into your truck and save you from handling them twice. Another good video.
Hi John. That is possible. My current process is I keep the bundles inside the garage until they are delivered. That is to avoid rain. I am able to back the truck right up to the pallets when I want to. Joe
@@ohiowoodburner I thought that I heard you say that you were delivering those bundles that afternoon. Just a thought.