Eve Tutorial. How to survive in low sec as a newbie. Fittings, gate camps and epic red local chats.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ต.ค. 2024
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Join me on an epic adventure in the low sec system as I embark on Day 1 with a brand new character, armed with zero skills and some skill injectors. Right from day one, those locals didn't give me a warm welcome. The local heroes were far from pleased with my arrival.They started off by hurling insults, talking trash, and even threatening me, but guess what? They failed miserably! Just a bunch of empty threats.
My #Day 12 as a new toon.
First of all: THX for all of your ISK donations. LOve you all. Dont need it but will use it for some more skill injectiors ! I've juiced up my skills a bit with skill injectors, but I'm still low-skilled in all areas. Gotta say, after the first 12 days, playing solo against the whole crew is way better than teaming up against one. Sure, it might lead to more ship losses, but who gives a damn?
In this video, I'll show you the fitting of my PvP ship that use for hunting in low sec. You'll also learn how to navigate through low sec like a pro, without getting catched and effortlessly passing through almost any gate camp. And trust me, at the end of the video, there's gonna be a crazy chat with the low sec red - pirats that'll leave you shaking your head in disbelief.
(pro tip) Here, I'm referring to you saying that, after you exit a warp gate, you prefer to warp to bookmarks to which you are already aligned. 5:13, 6:20 You aren't, however, aligned to anything. You would warp to a bookmark directly behind your ship model, just as fast as the one in front of it due to your velocity being zero.
Alignment does not matter when at zero velocity, only align time. Don't feel bad if you didn't know this. This is an incorrect assumption that most people make. I have heard it repeated countless times. This incorrect thinking comes from fleet experience where, the people who didn't "align", get left behind during fleet warp after exiting a gate. This, however, is due to some fleet members, after a gate jump, having better velocity than stationary fleet members at time of warp, not better alignment. This thinking also stems from people confusing the ship model with what Eve calculates as your ship. In Eve, your ship is only a point (and arrow, if you are moving). When warping from zero velocity, the arrow stretches out from the point of your ship directly toward your warp direction, any direction, in a set amount of time (align time) when; no velocity is present and no slowing-down or change in direction is required. The ship model is not calculated in this. It is only visual. The arrow can stretch in any direction with no difference in align time, when at zero velocity. There is no vector (arrow) at zero velocity. Eve calculates your ship as a point. The position of your ship model in this zero-velocity state is arbitrary. One way to easily see this disconnect between ship model and the ships positional calculation is to observe how your ship model enters warp at the wrong angle compared to the vector of the warp.
I would love for someone to make a side by side video of warping strait and warping "backwards" after gate jumping. (hint hint)
Love your vids. I've learned a lot. Keep it up.
Ha, Captain Benzie just released a video about this 3 hours ago. I wonder if he saw my comment. "How Warping Works & Why Aligning Doesn't Matter"
It can be easily observed in titans. They warp sideways very often unless they are already aligned in the warp direction.
Ah, I went to the comments hoping someone corrected this.
Ship “alignment” at 0 m/s is meaningless. Stationary ships always take the full align time.
Your editing and presentation style are really great. I hope you can continue making content for EVE!
Ive read that after a gate jump even if you see your ship heading in any direction it is false and it will take the same time to initiate warp even if you were heading in totally opposite direction your ship was facing. But leaving a station was true because your ship is already moving towards a direction.
Even after moving for a while i.e after completing an anomaly and you are full stop (0m/h) if you were aligning exactly to something it will take again 100% the time of your align time.
I thought it work like that and I have not tested it myself but I took it for grant and I have always used under 2sec align ships or cov cloack ships in dangerous areas.
I will try it today myself.
Good video :)
This is correct - orientation of the ship at 0 velocity does not matter for warping. That's why your time to warp is noted in the fitting window. That's simply the time it takes for your ship to warp no matter what way it's facing. There used to be a phrase "Cold Align" that people would say back in the day (and who knows, maybe even still) where you would face your ship and then come to a stop. It was proven to not matter so I don't think it's as common. As an example, capitals/freighters commonly warp sideways since they don't turn in time, but it doesn't matter.
I want to second this.
The key factor for how long it takes to get into warp is the current vector of velocity. Undocking from a station sets the ship at speed instantly and therefore makes it possible to instantly warp to a bookmark within that vector.
But after a jump through a gate, the ship is at a standstill. It will take the same time to warp in any direction. The orientation of the ship-model is just graphics.
That's also why bigger ships like freighters and capitals often "drift" into warp: the animation of the ship turning is set slow, so it looks and feels like a big ship, but the math does not care for graphics and hurls the ship off sideways.
Used to live near there and miss it now. I didn't realize what a good thing I had going but see it now. Such a cool area of space.
it is :-)
I'm learning a lot from your vids, thank you for that. I also appreciate the drama you create by publicly looking down on ego boosted noobs.
thx :-)
ever wondered what's inside camera good for (Alt+1)? If you guess it's to use wsad to manualy fly your ship, you are wrong, obviously. Use it to make undocking bookmarks. Dock with camera already changed to inside pov. You will notice your ship starts to deviate in first 1-2s after undocking from ideal path (invisible center line) so try to mitigate this by clicking to the point it was aligned to at the first moment. Time to burn that +150km and you have nearly perfect insta-undock. Nearly perfect because it only works best in that 1s after undocking cos of that randomness of your ship's aligment afterwards. It can be as little as 1degree, but can be as much as 15. If you make bookmark 15degree off center line you might find yourself undocking another 15degree in opposite direction in future. It may change nothing one day, it may save your ship the next day. And the slower your ship is (inertia/agility) the more you can feel it. And 2nd use of that camera is for bumping. Good content, keep it up!
alignment does not matter when you're stationary, only when you're moving. the way your ship is "facing" when stationary is purely cosmetic, as eve is calculating stuff using velocity vectors.
you need that when you are moving...pre overhead mwdat gate and warp away then
@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb When you exit a gate, your speed is 0 in all direction. Pings are useful when exiting a station, often called "insta-undocks" since you don't start at 0 speed when exiting a station. Pings serve little purpose for exiting gates, however you could make a ping on grid a few hundred kilometers from the gate, to potentially avoid getting caught by taclers (if they gank you, one can tacle you, you jump trough and the other one follows you, then you're dead, so this allows you to "perch" and see who's here)
Hey Ami. When you have no insta-dock for a station, warp to 100 to the station. Better from a celestial than from a gate, because people might be waiting there. Look at the sentry turrets. Sentry turrets in lowsec are usually located above or below. Mwd up or down until you can warp to the opposite sentry. While moving, set the station as autopiloting destination. Warp to 50 or 70 to the opposing sentry, which will land you inside the docking radius. In warp, activate the autopilot. You will land and insta-dock automatically. In case the station is a kick-out station (are those still a thing?) and you can not create a bookmark within 0km after undocking, create the insta-docking bookmark just before you land and auto-dock.
Align time is the exact same in any direction after you jump into a system. You don't have to warp to the bookmark in your field of view. This has been proven for many years. Also, if you are going to make these bookmarks and stop to save them when you move to the next one, you will be scanned down and probably die a horrible death when you come back to system.
No not when you are in a move > 75 % ground speed away from the gate.
@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fbReally helpful video, thank you. Just to be sure about this issue. It's faster to get to > 75% of base speed and warp to the safe spot you're most aligned to, than standing still and warp to any destination? It must be right, or else it wouldn't make sense to have the safe spots in the first place?
yes...standing still -> warp savespots dont help...
As long as you click approach your bookmark you get decloacked and get warp scrambler, web and target painter and at next second you get blaped. Even if you have 2 second align time you would be catched with proper server tick roll. So never enter gate camped lowsecs in solo ships if you carrying expensive stuff in ship cargo bay
These are a lot of good tips for the newbies! Or those looking to get into low sec life.
I've spent most of my time in low, and definitely gotten the large share of my kills there. I love it because no bubbles. You tend to find more skill in low than null, which can make things a bit harder. Very rewarding though, except for the rep hits haha. I always hung out in the bleak lands though.
That is a pretty sick solo pvp fit. I love the sensor damp counter to lock your enemy out. I tend to favor a 8k ehp autocannon thrasher. I've gotten some crazy kills with. People never expect you to dump 350dps on them. Beam Confessor was really fun too, before they nerfed it into the ground...
sensor damp is bad ass pvp :-) but i like it too
I like the voice you used to talk as the other person in chat. Same as my "other dude" voice. Cheers.
This is quality content! I am simping for you hard
Well, I guess I tend to go a bit overboard with things sometimes, you know? you have some cool ppl in the corp.
@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb Everyone goes overboard sometimes. We're just people. It's funny that you annoyed some of our bittervets. They'll get over it :D
This is a really good video. Good basic operational security.
Very nice introduction to staying alive in the lowsec, you should also include why you have a cloak device and MWD ... specifically how to use them to avoid detection and reduction of the chance of getting locked on by pirates .
Great video - looking forward to watching the rest of them now!
have fun 🙂
Good video for new bros. Great explanation of the importance of planning, and making pings and tactical warp spots, and not just Yeeting into glorious batlle. Although it is good to do sometimes 😘
thx !
The modules on the bottom of the fitting page are the lows...not the mids. The mids are on the right side. Just FYI...great job BTW.
OMG too funny Ami, the chat log. Reminds me of a ganker flew up to me at a Wightstorm in a Cruiser, I'm doing 7 ships before BS and this one start orbiting me firing at me. I'm in my blinged out Cyclone Fleet with Heavy Assault II's so when I got down to 2 ships I just target him and unleash all launchers and drones and his Shield drops 100% and Armor down 50% in on volley. Ten I get the after warp out chat sorta like what you got.
i like it too :-) thanks for your feedback.
I'll definitely TASTE it when I'm done. I love your accent. SUBBED.
thx
me again :) sorry for bothering you, but it is very important for me to be able to calculate correctly dempeners effect ....on 12:49 I think you have a mistake with the third dempener.... I think your 15% is wrong, 19.95% is correct (35*57/100=19,95%), next...27,12-(27,12*19,95/100)=21,71km ....(not 23km). This is without overload effectiveness bonus. With overload effectiveness bonus are: 34km/22km/16km.
Hey, nice series and good tips i never considered setting up warp out points for a gate. I would love to hear some tips on how you pick a good place to hunt. Not long ago i started dabbling in PVP so i just roam random low sec systems in hopes of finding someone.
A good low sec location is always the one close to one of the 3 trade hubs. For example, Ami is only 3 jumps away from Amarr and has many more low sec systems beyond it. Tama is also like that, but Tama is definitely too crowded. As an individual, you hardly stand a chance there.It takes a few days to figure out who plays together here. You can also check the number of kills in the last hour using the map (F10), which is always a good indicator. Anyway, for me, two important factors are: 1) Traffic and 2) How many jumps to the next trade hub.
Didn't have much luck looking around Rens a couple days back. I'll try around Hek next time. Is there a way to check traffic in a system? Like a external website or in game feature that i don't know about?
@@MBlues sure, also use F10 and set to "last jumps 24 hours"
Didn't know about that! Thank you
Great content, keep it up!
THX
Nach ein paar Videos habe ich erst gemerkt, dass der Client auf de ist :D
@@ralphqu9365 Ich dachte man hört den deutschen Akzent sowieso
5:41 Nice singing skills :-)))))))))
TY for the video it's so much of a helpfull tuition!
TY for watching !!!!!
Great video. I'm subscribed 🙂
thank you
Your safe align pins should be more than 9000 km off the Gate's Grid to keep campers from just warping to you once you warp 150 km because they can still see up to 9000 km away. Be safe.
You're safe warping to the gate most in line with your arrival point, then make a "safe spot" on the way to warping to 100 km, then warp to the next gate and repeat. Safe still, make sure your "safe spots" are less than 14 AU from the next gate so you can D-Scan to see if anyone is on the gate before arrival. Always make sure you make a "safe spot" 15 AU from any Celestials, but keep in mind those who scan will likely do the same thing, so no spots are safe unless you are clocked 14 AU from the nearest Celestials. I like your videos. Good survival tips. I like your PVP ship with those three dampeners, as it highlights the importance of using signal boosters.
@@RayHorn5128088056 i catch you !! 🙂
so good the remote sensor damp orthrus love it they can not kill what they cant lock
thats it. i mean its HP is like paper but you dont need a lot of HP when you cant be locked
thanks .great advice
lmao the reading voice on Extreme hangover is super funny .. love the content :D
Thanks. But i need to be careful. He said: " We will grief you until you nerd rage". 🔝
@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb lol if anything he will nerd rage
Some really good tips for sure, thanks
NIIIIICE summary
This was super helpful, thanks!
🙂
Great vid, funny end 😂😂😂 Some players behave like little children.
well for the videos they delivered cool content. in real life you need to pay for that 🤣🤣🤣
instantly subbed. It's nice to hear an exotic female voice while watching eve. Thanks!
Blahaha, that local chat was epic!
So, when are you going to start live streaming? ;)
Really great tips! I'll have to watch this video 4-5 times now to understand it in more depth. Can these tactics be used in other spaces other than low sec?
o space is not the same, in highs ec you dont need it
I definitely have insta-docks and insta-undocks in the major High-Sec hubs.... especially Jita. In fact, I have a warp-in insta-dock that is located on the far end of Jita so I don't fly into some foolishness. Jita is nearly as dangerous as Low Sec if you have anything expensive on you.
I know that when you come out of a Station, you have speed applied to you. But when you come out of a Jump Gate, aren't you at a stop? And a ship at full stop has no influence on aligning; you are literally only a point in space to the server without any sort of facing.
yes you are at stop...
When you're doing regular lowsec pirating (not FW), do you prefer FW lowsec or non FW lowsec? And do you approach them differently?
Prefer non FW lowsec...never did FW to be honest
@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb Cool, thanks!
New player here and im loving it hahah!
Hello this is ami this is a new subscriber
NEW GOATED EVE CHANNEL
:o good to know you make videos ! You have a Nice killboard.
thanks
Thx! It's the beneficial video!
thx for watching !
You incorrectly used safety and low sec in the same sentence.
Really nice video thank you :)
thanks
@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb Yeah very informative and funny sometimes
Das mit den fünf Warp Punkten nach dem Gate war mir neu, die TimeToWarp sollte aber keinen Unterschied machen, egal, zu welchen Safespot du warpen willst.
Die Station-Instalocks würde ich aber nicht direkt am Ausgang machen, sondern irgendwo unter oder hinter der Station. Vor der Station hängen auch mal welche rum, um Undocker zu catchen und eventuell auch mit nem MicroJump-Destroyer. Wenn der sieht, dass du ankommst, dann aktiviert er den MicroJump und wenn das timing stimmt, könnteste vor der Station dann erwischt werden und bist auf einmal 100km weg in der DeathZone. Außerdem ist nen instaDock irgendwo hinter der Station auch gut, wenn man pings für nen jumpfreighter macht, da braucht man ja auch 5km Platz drumrum.
Ach ja: Und ganz schön dicke Eier, sich mit nem ganzen Haufen auf einmal anzulegen xD net schlecht
Bin zwar nur nen HiSec Boon, aber wenn man PI in Syndicate macht, muss man lernen, wie man sich bewegt und welche Spots man macht
:-) danke für den ausführlichen kommentar und die hinweise, schau ich mir gleich mal an die pings an der station .... hast recht !
Great video
Also das Beste sind die Leute im Low Sec. Selten so gelacht. Schreibt sich den Finger wund, bekommt nicht das zu hören was er will = ignore List. 😂😂
Really enjoy your videos, I love how salty the locals are being.
But one thing, you keep boasting that your character is only 11* days old etc, and although that is technically true, you admitted to using skill injectors, so skill wise you are FAR more advanced than an actual 11 day old toon, and so it was not really a strong flex.
Thank you. Yes, exactly. I used 5-6 skill injectors, which anyone has access to on the market. In total, I can fly the ships (and only those) at the lowest level. Master Class 1, unfortunately. Low on energy, CPU, DPS, and everything. Need imps to keep everything running. Of course, still far, far, far behind any character who has been playing longer. But yes, maybe i saved 2-3 month´s skill time.
Just a second note. Of course, I've been playing the game for a while, and it's hardly (im-) possible for a beginner to survive in low sec without constantly getting blown up. Experience is lacking. I always say in the videos, "Don't go to low sec if you're short on money," and I want to add that the videos are not an invitation for all beginners to venture into low sec. Although, the pirates there would wish for it. Traffic has noticeably decreased in recent years!
@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb Traffic is absolutely lower yes. I used to be in Heretic Army way back when Flying in Amamake, that was our Ami. It is a vastly different space now. Anyway, looking forward to the next video, Fly safe
Hey there. What did you use for your weapon slots on your Orthrus? I only scrolled part way down, but i figure you would pin it :)
Sollte Eve nicht vor einem Jahr oder so schon neue Stationshangar bekommen? So eine Art Overhaul. Da wurde doch was angekündigt, was ist daraus geworden?
habe leider nichts davon gehört
If you don't know what to do iRL, you can start with us as a content creator.
Ha-ha-ha...! 😂
Loved your sarcastic humour, Sir! Thumbs up!
It's me Hi. I'm the problem 🥰
haha yes thats it
Whats the soundtrack/background music?
something from envato elements.
any idea which artist? @@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb
I learned long ago not to talk in local. Fools will drag you down to their level of stupidity and beat you with sheer experience. Let the guns do the talking; it's all that matters.
thats true, but trolling local can soemtimes be funny. low sec can be boring tbh
@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb I get it! Glad you are enjoying things! I live in wh space with my main now, but I might dust off an alt and come join you!
@@RobertBreckenridge13 sure ! WH space is a way of boring. I hate to see nothing in local chat. Everybody is stealthy like hell there
@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb I actually like being the thing that goes bump in the night. The one that bites and claws, sending victims screaming into the void. But that's just me. :)
Low sec is the most epic and in the same time most fuxxed up place in EvE.
People are under the impression that progression is like this: HighSec -> LowSec -> Null -> Wormholes, Real progression is HS -> Null -> Wh ->LS.
Null and WHs are way more safe than Low Sec.
true. wanna say null is safer than high sec
@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb it is, but you have to know what you are doing. HS is newb proof
LS is based. I don't play anymore, but I do miss faction warfare. Long live Caldari state!
Sehr gut gemacht! 👍👍
Gatecamping shows the worst in some people
TIE DYE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow how can I convince you to coach me in game. I suck at PvP and got killed by solos and even npc’s and drifters… I really need some hands on fleet and of course it would be worth your time. Is that even a possibility?
:-) contact mne ingame
Ok here starts a search party to see what your in game name actually is lol
@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb gosh I still didn’t find you 😭
@@gabriellovin7227 check my latest video
@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb ahaaa.. found you 😂😅. I’ll add you later.
Farming griefers AND salt! Awesome!
Why you call bookmarks as "pings"?
because i like it
@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fbbut it is hard to figure out what do you mean when call things with wrong names. And "Ping" concept used in EVE for gathering.
@@0xDEADBEEF we use it as ping in fleets.
Your technique of making bookmarks based on where your ship is pointing does not work. Align time in Eve is not connected to the direction your ship model is pointing. When you warp out a titan, it will often warp sideways because of this rule. Only your velocity and acceleration are taken into account. If you push warp, the amount of time is the same: The time it takes your ship to accelerate to 75% maximum velocity without a prop mod activated. If your align time is greater than 10 secs, you can reduce this time by cycling an MWD of the correct size one time, and you will warp after it completes its cycle. This does not work with afterburners. So, when you exit the gate, no matter where you are pointed, warp time to all of your bookmarks will be exactly the same if they are all the same distance.
i know but it gives you that good feeling you know? and ...when you alrdy in a move it works...you talk from standing still
@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb But you are never moving after jumping through a gate, so your method never works.
@@xerxesfehrnah5848 so you play with me daily? :-)
Tried and tried. Been ganked out of my Armageddon and Paladin. Honestly, it's not fun anymore.
use cheaper ships ! ;-)
I like how he states you're not worth his time, but still makes another 10 posts in local to you over the next four minutes and three seconds. I wonder if he's still thinking about you?
At 2:22, your ships is an *Ares* correct? How do you get a 1.915 align time with just two Inertia Stabilizer IIs? Are you using implants? Or is there a skill I've overlooked? Using two stabs, I have a 2.03s align time and need three for sub 2 (1.80s).
I'm a PvE HiSec player, but _if_ I can get a new computer (current is struggling on potato mode). I may dabble in Low Sec or even Null. Also, is that your real voice or AI? 🤔
hmmm no imps to increase that. but check my fitting, and check the rigs...i think thats it
@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb I'll have to check my skills. Pretty sure I have "the magic 14" at max, but I'll check for others.
The Rigs, and obviously relevant skills training to at least 4 (not sure they are all in the magic 14, can't remember)
nice music
thx
13:15 😆💯💯
The voice acting at the end =10/10 😂
i like it too :-)
if u need 5 bookmarks for every single gate in 0 sec, this game is just fucked lol
thats an umangable amount of bookmarks, no?
do you create a subfolder for every single system that you expand and minimize everytime u enter/leave a system?
thats just stupid and the mechanics suck
Extreme hangover, you are defo cringe
This isn't helpful. If you're making a video for new players, don't use terminology or vague wording.
Since I'm not getting paid for it, I make the videos just the way I like! 😉
I can understand very well, actually didnt have problems.
@@AtlallurElarik thats cool
So ask questions, don’t complain like my ex-wife.
@@lovetopewpew :-))))))
Living in low sec isn’t even dangerous..
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@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb I’m serious lol. Cool vid though. Not to bring gender into it or anything, but nice to have a woman voice making some content. Always helps the game.
getting shot with a gun won't even kill you
@@mace400 I can't find the gender point, so I'll take it as a compliment. Even though it was probably not meant as a compliment. If it was indeed meant as a compliment, then prove it. Fly to Amy, break the gate camp, and link me the kill of the player 'extrem hangover'
@@ThisisAmi-Eveonline-xi8fb ? It was a compliment. But alright haha. I’m sure killing you wouldn’t be much of a challenge since you gate camp, but challenge accepted eventually. :)
Great content, keep it up!