Omniscient 1 they should be treated differently because they aren’t equal at the moment. Once they are equal then social justice will be the thing of past. Hope so!
It is harder to accept a perceived defect in others, than it is to forget the clear defect in ourselves. If you want equality and acceptance, work on that. God bless you all.
People need to start properly learning and getting informed about these various issues if there is going to be change. People can't discuss and debate topics they have no understanding or knowledge of. The bigger problem is that this country has a way of making its people feel like they know more than they actually do. When it comes to discussions between people, a majority either use or fall prey to the many kinds of persuasive fallacies like flawed arguments, flawed design of argument, or flawed evidence in arguments.
Wow, this video is 8 years old and yet nothing has changed. In fact I feel like modern feminism got worse somehow. A lot of children are still dying to gun violence, and a lot of men and women are stuck in abusive relationship. What hurts the most is that nothing mentioned in this video has changed for the better, everyone just moves on once something big happens. I'm a student needing to look for a video to write a reflection and when I listened to this I just feel sadder. Man Humanity is just so screwed right now.
Edit: Before people try to point out the statistics are probably not accurate, that isn't what I should or anyone should focus on, it's the fact that they are still happening, it's the screwed-up truth that we all just seem to accept it at a day to day basis, or what about the fact that there are problems in modern times that can't seem to have a middle ground and the fact that people in power and society haven't done anything is what matters. Why do numbers matter when there are so many people dying, we already have COVID as a worldly problem for gosh damn sake.
social justice: justice in terms of the distribution of wealth, opportunities, and privileges within a society. "individuality gives way to the struggle for social justice"
Half the harm that is done in this world is do to people you want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm - but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or the justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think we'll of themselves.
"Every individual has a choice to make - you can either stand with me and fight for social justice, or you can stay on the sidelines silently supporting the systems that perpetuate the inequality, violence, and poverty that plague our world." So there are only two things to choose from. What a complex and nuanced worldview. Tell me more about how great of a communist you are.
***** Hey I don't support violence or poverty. But Inequality in inevitable, and the only way to prevent it is if we humans were all the same. Because You is not I and therefor not equal inequality is a truth that must be realized. In order to get around this, one is to say "Hey, I don't care who you are." There for one must treat the guy the same as the next guy or else one does care who the guy is. If you fight against inequality you should advocate Idon'tcarism, not the unequal treatment of unequal people to achieve "equality". I don't support violence because hey, who doesn't like foreign girls (or boys if your into that). Poverty is a horrible state to be in. We should do as much as we can to help them, but we shouldn't force people to help them. You should work at the soup kitchen once in a while, buy them a sandwich, teach them vocational skills, you know charity work that you left-wingers are so passionate about and so glad that the right-wingers do most of it. And about the part were he talks about the box of masculinity: If I want to stay in my box of masculinity please let me. If you want to leave to box sure i don't care, but don't take me with you.
_"Cosmic justice is not simply a higher degree of traditional justice, it is a fundamentally different concept. Traditionally, justice or injustice is characteristic of a _*_process._*_ A defendant in a criminal case would be said to have received justice if the trial were conducted as it should be, under fair rules and with the judge and jury being impartial. After such a trial, it could be said that "justice was done"-regardless of whether the outcome was an acquittal or an execution. Conversely, if the trial were conducted in violation of the rules and with a judge or jury showing prejudice against the defendant, this would be considered an unfair or unjust trial-even if the prosecutor failed in the end to get enough jurors to vote to convict an innocent person. In short, traditional justice is about impartial processes rather than either results or prospects._ _Similar conceptions of justice or fairness extend beyond the legal system. A "fair fight" is one in which both combatants observe the rules, regardless of whether that leads to a draw or to a one-sided beating. Applying the same rules of baseball to all meant that Mark McGwire hit seventy home runs while some other players hit less than ten. The "career open to talents" or "a level playing field" usually means that everyone plays by the same rules and is judged by the same standards. Again, if the process itself meets that standard, then no matter what the outcome, "you had your chance." But this is not what is meant by those people who speak of "social justice." In fact, rules and standards equally applicable to all are often deliberately set aside in pursuit of "social justice." Nor are such exceptions aberrations. The two concepts are mutually incompatible._ _What "social justice" seeks to do is to eliminate undeserved disadvantages for selected groups. ... This is often done in disregard of the costs of this to other individuals or groups-or even to the requirements of society as a whole. When one considers a society such as Sri Lanka, where group preferences initiated in the 1950s led to decades of internal strife, escalating into bitter civil war with many atrocities, it is not purely fanciful to consider that other societies may become more polarized and contentious-to everyone’s ultimate detriment-by similar schemes of preferential treatment for one segment of society."_ - The Quest For Cosmic Justice by Thomas Sowell
Ok i know u commented this awhile ago but thank God i'm not the only one. Why would somebody be against social justice? It doesn't make sense. It just literally means justice within society. It has a pretty clear definition.
NobleOne11199 No that is not what is means. Just because black people are, on average, poorer that white people does not mean any injustice is going on. Social Justice : justice in terms of the distribution of wealth, opportunities, and privileges within a society.
Social Justice Warrior! I'm sure the downtrodden are thanking their lucky stars that this fellow is fightin' the good fight! With this guy on your side, social justice will prevail!
This talk is long on complaints and short on proposed solutions. I would be interested more in hearing how this administrator would go about solving these problems.
@@ronalddowdell1931 Exactly right! He has done a great job putting all the issues in one powerful talk. Change has to come through action from us - We The People. It won't come from government politicians, business leaders or religious preachers. Its all on us.
I read this in a novel (I think ) For social justice, work, affordable housing, good unespensive Health care. Have invisible brigades block crucial infrastructure (train tracks as an example) to promote claims. Leave funny looking but harmless parcels...
It's a shame that TED took such a turn in the Far Left direction. Two years later looking at a lot of these videos you can see why they have lost so much support, very radical ideas.
Time to talk about taking personal responsibility instead of my rights my rights my rights.... if people took responsibility for each other we would all feel good. My rights are others responsibilities and vice versa
Most of this is just throwing out statistics, some of which are questionable. For example, the "gender income gap" has been taken apart and debunked so many times now, I've lost count.
Social Justice will never exist because we have more people working against it then for it. Hatred is the main reason why life for all will not be equal. We rather keep each other down than help one another.
You're damn right I work against it. There is absolutely nothing "just" about social justice, but it doesn't shock me in the slightest that you're supportive of it: you'll stand to gain from it at the expense of people who did absolutely nothing to you, so why wouldn't you? I believe that deep down you know it's wrong and dehumanizing to the very people it claims to be "helping", but you will actually face the most severe consequences for speaking out against it, so you don't and again that doesn't shock me. If anything, that realisation alone makes me all the more resolved to give everything I have in the fight against social justice. I say this with complete honesty, too.
The entire time he spewed facts and "did you know". What has he done? What are the solutions? How can people create action. Cause everything he said is stuff I've seen on my fb feed already
Plus I thought Ted strives to be innovative and offer new perspectives/solutions but this gentleman doesn't bring anything new to the table, it's just a repetition of the usual arguments and statistics
Tedx = "The shitties possible version of a Ted talk, now with more lies and less discussion of multiple viewpoints." That's their new slogan, a bit lengthy but they are open to suggestions.
Oh my where to start, fix the world, fix a country, fix people...... Problem propblem. Solution "social justice" who ever gets to enforce it, they become like a god.
Social injustice? I hate that I am growing old...somebody has got to give me money to stop me from growing old. How about giving me some taxpayers money to stop me from getting old. Bah humbug! Humans are animals and life is not fair.
Social Justice is simply takeover of private property on large scale and back to slavery system. What's the difference is between Justice and Social Justice ? The same like betwen a chair and electric chair.
in defence of this guy, he did say "I view everything through a social justice lens". This is usually how scholars excuse their one-sided perspective on things. He is practically stating that he is not going to be very reflected, and that he is locked to one perspective.
I am absolutely for social justice but I take those statistics with a grain of salt. I heard that the college campuses statistics he is quoting have been exaggerated? I haven't actually seen them though so I could be wrong. There's going to be some bias with any study, but are they taking that into account?
Yeah, accidental killing is called accidental killing or involuntary manslaughter. Murder by definition means the killing is pre-planed and carried out.
This guy is delusional. Identify based beliefs and politics. Everything that is wrong with modern education. I'd hate to be at a university this guy had anything to do with running.
is funny how he thinks social justice will bring better opportunities to populations that have been historically in disadvantage, when actually is freedom what achieves that goal for them.
There is something very wrong here. You can propose a lot of definitions of social justice, but so much of them are very bad. The man here give a good example of a bad definition, I think that is his problem. With a good definition you can do a lot of things in this field: please follow authors like Rawls, Dworkin, Agnes Heller, Bruce Ackerman and Brian Barry.
Push decency and respect!!!! Too quote Shapiro, "Why is there more men in prison? Are the police officers sexist against males? You have funnymentals, you make up statistics to fit your talking point. There is no north for Social Justice.... There is decency and you are trying to control everyone tolerance and definition of decency.
this video is nearly 7 years old and it feels so relevant today.... we really haven't changed much huh.... ouch :(
'The idea of social justice is that the State should treat different people unequally in order to make them equal'
Frederich August von Hayek
Nice straw man
Omniscient 1 they should be treated differently because they aren’t equal at the moment. Once they are equal then social justice will be the thing of past. Hope so!
You gotta give an example to elaborate.
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Cuz Hayek gave a damn about the poor...... not! And his followers are vitriolic enablers of wealth inequality and injustice.
It is harder to accept a perceived defect in others, than it is to forget the clear defect in ourselves. If you want equality and acceptance, work on that. God bless you all.
Well said
Yea I want to try and get better too
People need to start properly learning and getting informed about these various issues if there is going to be change. People can't discuss and debate topics they have no understanding or knowledge of. The bigger problem is that this country has a way of making its people feel like they know more than they actually do. When it comes to discussions between people, a majority either use or fall prey to the many kinds of persuasive fallacies like flawed arguments, flawed design of argument, or flawed evidence in arguments.
I'm literally watching this video as an assignment from my teacher. We have a presentation on it
it's tomorrow wish me luck.
LOL same, I finished tho
what was it about? i have a speech to write now but im blank lol
Wow, this video is 8 years old and yet nothing has changed. In fact I feel like modern feminism got worse somehow. A lot of children are still dying to gun violence, and a lot of men and women are stuck in abusive relationship.
What hurts the most is that nothing mentioned in this video has changed for the better, everyone just moves on once something big happens. I'm a student needing to look for a video to write a reflection and when I listened to this I just feel sadder. Man Humanity is just so screwed right now.
Edit: Before people try to point out the statistics are probably not accurate, that isn't what I should or anyone should focus on, it's the fact that they are still happening, it's the screwed-up truth that we all just seem to accept it at a day to day basis, or what about the fact that there are problems in modern times that can't seem to have a middle ground and the fact that people in power and society haven't done anything is what matters. Why do numbers matter when there are so many people dying, we already have COVID as a worldly problem for gosh damn sake.
Exactly! I'm here for the same reason. I feel like implicit bias is a core issue that most people have without realizing it.
He keeps changing subjects about social justice
+trish. oj Social justice encompasses a pretty wide array of subjects.
And most of it is bologna.. unless you’re talking about worldwide.
social justice: justice in terms of the distribution of wealth, opportunities, and privileges within a society.
"individuality gives way to the struggle for social justice"
I'm pretty sure that that's almost the exact definition of communism lol
it is lol
man this guy proves that wisdom doesnt come with age
LOL!
wildtexan lmao 😂 just what I thought
said 50 year old cowboy
The comment section tells that people can not take criticisms.
静水丨流深 123 This guy has no criticism, his critcism of culture is just that, nothing new.
Social Justice has no place in a free society.
no one said society was free😂
+kung foo kitten Farrell That depends on what you mean by free. The word can have different meanings.
Social justice is the DEFINITION of freedom. A world in which minorities have the same freedoms as everyone else
+Bilbo Took Social Justice is both Totalitarian conception and practice.
Mike Kelley I'm sorry. I'd it opposite day? I haven't been catching up on the news
Half the harm that is done in this world is do to people you want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm - but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or the justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think we'll of themselves.
"Every individual has a choice to make - you can either stand with me and fight for social justice, or you can stay on the sidelines silently supporting the systems that perpetuate the inequality, violence, and poverty that plague our world." So there are only two things to choose from. What a complex and nuanced worldview. Tell me more about how great of a communist you are.
Whats ur solution then?
alenhippahepp solution to what exactly?
***** Hey I don't support violence or poverty. But Inequality in inevitable, and the only way to prevent it is if we humans were all the same. Because You is not I and therefor not equal inequality is a truth that must be realized. In order to get around this, one is to say "Hey, I don't care who you are." There for one must treat the guy the same as the next guy or else one does care who the guy is. If you fight against inequality you should advocate Idon'tcarism, not the unequal treatment of unequal people to achieve "equality". I don't support violence because hey, who doesn't like foreign girls (or boys if your into that). Poverty is a horrible state to be in. We should do as much as we can to help them, but we shouldn't force people to help them. You should work at the soup kitchen once in a while, buy them a sandwich, teach them vocational skills, you know charity work that you left-wingers are so passionate about and so glad that the right-wingers do most of it. And about the part were he talks about the box of masculinity: If I want to stay in my box of masculinity please let me. If you want to leave to box sure i don't care, but don't take me with you.
***** If your talking about Trump, fuck trump. just btw.
2/3 Of american families have guns in their homes....and most of them are illegal? Where is that stat from?
Probably the 'Anti-Gun Review issue 3 - Improving Fast and Furious Gun Running'.
+John Suter
50 million households with some 90 million LEGAL gun owners.
Only 400,000 illegal gun owners in America, according to FBI.
His Ass!!!
_"Cosmic justice is not simply a higher degree of traditional justice, it is a fundamentally different concept. Traditionally, justice or injustice is characteristic of a _*_process._*_ A defendant in a criminal case would be said to have received justice if the trial were conducted as it should be, under fair rules and with the judge and jury being impartial. After such a trial, it could be said that "justice was done"-regardless of whether the outcome was an acquittal or an execution. Conversely, if the trial were conducted in violation of the rules and with a judge or jury showing prejudice against the defendant, this would be considered an unfair or unjust trial-even if the prosecutor failed in the end to get enough jurors to vote to convict an innocent person. In short, traditional justice is about impartial processes rather than either results or prospects._
_Similar conceptions of justice or fairness extend beyond the legal system. A "fair fight" is one in which both combatants observe the rules, regardless of whether that leads to a draw or to a one-sided beating. Applying the same rules of baseball to all meant that Mark McGwire hit seventy home runs while some other players hit less than ten. The "career open to talents" or "a level playing field" usually means that everyone plays by the same rules and is judged by the same standards. Again, if the process itself meets that standard, then no matter what the outcome, "you had your chance." But this is not what is meant by those people who speak of "social justice." In fact, rules and standards equally applicable to all are often deliberately set aside in pursuit of "social justice." Nor are such exceptions aberrations. The two concepts are mutually incompatible._
_What "social justice" seeks to do is to eliminate undeserved disadvantages for selected groups. ... This is often done in disregard of the costs of this to other individuals or groups-or even to the requirements of society as a whole. When one considers a society such as Sri Lanka, where group preferences initiated in the 1950s led to decades of internal strife, escalating into bitter civil war with many atrocities, it is not purely fanciful to consider that other societies may become more polarized and contentious-to everyone’s ultimate detriment-by similar schemes of preferential treatment for one segment of society."_
- The Quest For Cosmic Justice by Thomas Sowell
👍
Within the first few seconds "Working at a university..."
Ok, so I know where this guy stands.
wow, reading these comments is so disappointing :(
Ok i know u commented this awhile ago but thank God i'm not the only one. Why would somebody be against social justice? It doesn't make sense. It just literally means justice within society. It has a pretty clear definition.
You are not alone. I also don't understand why there are so many anti-social justice and anti-feminism TH-cam channels with thousands of subscribers.
***** true. Not much of it in a space with little accountability
Too many people nowadays deny reality.
NobleOne11199 No that is not what is means. Just because black people are, on average, poorer that white people does not mean any injustice is going on. Social Justice : justice in terms of the distribution of wealth, opportunities, and privileges within a society.
who else is here for uni/school/college
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That was incredible, what a great public speaker.
Tony 123 ???????????????????????????????????????????????
It is an unfortunate fact that this subject and the content of this video are too high brow for majority of the commenters.
Social Justice Warrior! I'm sure the downtrodden are thanking their lucky stars that this fellow is fightin' the good fight! With this guy on your side, social justice will prevail!
This talk is long on complaints and short on proposed solutions. I would be interested more in hearing how this administrator would go about solving these problems.
yes but many people do not even believe there is a problem so talks like these are still important
Perhaps the solutions come from all of us.
@@ronalddowdell1931 Exactly right! He has done a great job putting all the issues in one powerful talk. Change has to come through action from us - We The People. It won't come from government politicians, business leaders or religious preachers. Its all on us.
Social Justice never was relevant, never will be.
It was never relevant.
I read this in a novel (I think ) For social justice, work, affordable housing, good unespensive Health care. Have invisible brigades block crucial infrastructure (train tracks as an example) to promote claims. Leave funny looking but harmless parcels...
It's a shame that TED took such a turn in the Far Left direction. Two years later looking at a lot of these videos you can see why they have lost so much support, very radical ideas.
Time to talk about taking personal responsibility instead of my rights my rights my rights.... if people took responsibility for each other we would all feel good. My rights are others responsibilities and vice versa
Most of this is just throwing out statistics, some of which are questionable. For example, the "gender income gap" has been taken apart and debunked so many times now, I've lost count.
Can someone provide a link to these statistics.
no can do. Just need to shut up and believe
@GABRIEL RAMOS that's hate speech
Probably the only part I agree with him is women don’t have the same rights as men but only outside the USA . That’s it
I have to watch this ughhh
Great talk, Thanks.
Social Justice will never exist because we have more people working against it then for it. Hatred is the main reason why life for all will not be equal. We rather keep each other down than help one another.
Regina S. Bell *individuality
No, quite the opposite reaction happens..
You're damn right I work against it.
There is absolutely nothing "just" about social justice, but it doesn't shock me in the slightest that you're supportive of it: you'll stand to gain from it at the expense of people who did absolutely nothing to you, so why wouldn't you?
I believe that deep down you know it's wrong and dehumanizing to the very people it claims to be "helping", but you will actually face the most severe consequences for speaking out against it, so you don't and again that doesn't shock me. If anything, that realisation alone makes me all the more resolved to give everything I have in the fight against social justice.
I say this with complete honesty, too.
Social justice is the foundation of everything.
+Gloria Waslyn
Fuck off.
+Gloria Waslyn the foundation of mental illness on a societal level. Gloria, you are the problem.
hahahahaha!
...that is wrong with our society".
mmzen
Eat a bag of dicks.
Bring Ben Shapiro, he will make this clown go back to his safe space
I wonder if this guy is talking about the USA or a foreign country? TED talks has really lowered there standards for the speakers they ask to speak.
The entire time he spewed facts and "did you know". What has he done? What are the solutions? How can people create action. Cause everything he said is stuff I've seen on my fb feed already
Asha Blue In fact they have supposed soloutions but they havent caught on to its effects.
Can't take him seriously.
It’s interesting we’re not focusing on male upbringing, and changing the aspects of what we see as male.
As long as abortion is a thing, there can be no justice
Social Justice isn't justice. It doesn't care about justice or the truth
I'm losing alot of respect for Ted with alot of these speakers. They have a right to speak but let's hear the other side please.
Plus I thought Ted strives to be innovative and offer new perspectives/solutions but this gentleman doesn't bring anything new to the table, it's just a repetition of the usual arguments and statistics
This is Tedx, it's a copy cat version that anyone can host. It's Ted without te quality control.
Tedx = "The shitties possible version of a Ted talk, now with more lies and less discussion of multiple viewpoints." That's their new slogan, a bit lengthy but they are open to suggestions.
The other side?? That humans shouldn't have basic rights if they aren't straight white men?? That other side?
Get rid of the strong and breed the weak.
Oh my where to start, fix the world, fix a country, fix people...... Problem propblem. Solution "social justice" who ever gets to enforce it, they become like a god.
Social injustice? I hate that I am growing old...somebody has got to give me money to stop me from growing old. How about giving me some taxpayers money to stop me from getting old. Bah humbug! Humans are animals and life is not fair.
Of course. Social justice is always relevant. It's the basic idea behind Marxism/Communism.
Social Justice is simply takeover of private property on large scale and back to slavery system.
What's the difference is between Justice and Social Justice ? The same like betwen a chair and electric chair.
in defence of this guy, he did say "I view everything through a social justice lens". This is usually how scholars excuse their one-sided perspective on things. He is practically stating that he is not going to be very reflected, and that he is locked to one perspective.
I am absolutely for social justice but I take those statistics with a grain of salt. I heard that the college campuses statistics he is quoting have been exaggerated? I haven't actually seen them though so I could be wrong. There's going to be some bias with any study, but are they taking that into account?
This video should be called: how to lose all your brain cells in less than 20 minutes
This talk is a big oof.
Social Justice is communist slang 🤣🤣🤣
is there anyone who can help me in my homework in criticizing the ideas of liberty and justice
this guy is soooo convincing. NOT. he throws out a bunch of anecdotes that can all be debunked with real stats
Where are your stats to debunk what he said?
If this video hadn't aged well, then the dislikes are coming from SJW's.
I can stand on a stage and say this is wrong, that's wrong.
accidental murder...is this guy high. Murder is not an accident
Yeah, accidental killing is called accidental killing or involuntary manslaughter. Murder by definition means the killing is pre-planed and carried out.
love it
Thanks for further diminishing my opinion of humans. I'm gonna go live the lions.
This guy is delusional. Identify based beliefs and politics. Everything that is wrong with modern education. I'd hate to be at a university this guy had anything to do with running.
So many words - so little substance. Wasted 6 minutes of my life :(
Soo much bullshit.
is funny how he thinks social justice will bring better opportunities to populations that have been historically in disadvantage, when actually is freedom what achieves that goal for them.
This guy better hope Thomas Sowell doesn't see this garbage.
no
i thought it was perfectly stated - it was everything that needed to be spoken ,why isn't he not running for president
Because he's moron with no perception of reality..
no offense, but i highly doubt it
So when do they get to the abusing part
I'm fkn scared now! My partner is going to assault me. Holy shiz!
There is something very wrong here. You can propose a lot of definitions of social justice, but so much of them are very bad. The man here give a good example of a bad definition, I think that is his problem. With a good definition you can do a lot of things in this field: please follow authors like Rawls, Dworkin, Agnes Heller, Bruce Ackerman and Brian Barry.
Push decency and respect!!!! Too quote Shapiro, "Why is there more men in prison? Are the police officers sexist against males? You have funnymentals, you make up statistics to fit your talking point. There is no north for Social Justice.... There is decency and you are trying to control everyone tolerance and definition of decency.
Someone drop a time in the video plz
1 in 5....bull. There are REAL stats out there
Ok be honest who else is hunting for SJW's
Legit, all of these claims have been debunked. I'm only watching cause my SJW prof from TTU made me watch this. Dont waste your time.
No. Saved ya decades of suffering.
Literally all of those "facts" have been disproven
T101S They dont run on facts.
Go watch 'What is social justice' by PragerU.
Until social justice isnt used like that rabid pitbull that woofs and shouts down its opponents, And cower at the site of dissent. Not my cup of tea.
I’m being serious
Whats congress?
Is it like palamen
I’m in class right now
Falsehood after falsehood from this “expert”.
I wonder what is his stance is on the second ammendment lol
He's probably afraid of guns. Social justice = work harder make more. Work less make / have less
He briefly discusses gun control around 9:45
this was so bad lol
Check your facts.
You need to check your facts.
500 republicans disliked this
News Flash: It was never relevant
It let you have this forum to write in..... the opposite is your silence and subservience.
ειμαι μια σκατιαρα με μαλλια
He should debate Ben Shapiro and get destroyed
Yeesh, what a mangina.
Get a real job!
So much bullshit!