Ah yes truly these guys work for the CCP, they truly need the money since the economy might collapse in their country. So they made a big game to get people to buy it and make a lot of money from it. 😮
Unless people refund, they will still have made a lot of money. The reviews you showed did not show 'player refunded the game'. If steam pulls the game and refunds everyone, that will be the only bad outcome for these 'developers'.
I believe this isn't 100% correct, from what I've seen, players that review after refunding will show the 'refunded' tag, whereas if you review *then* refund, I don't think it updates it showing the refund. (source: is dev of a different Steam game and seen it happen)
Interesting, I did not know this. From a quick google you seem to be right. Valve should fix this, a negative review with or without refund gives much more info. @@FirstCrimson
>Most great indie games from studios with years of experience get almost no attention >A group of nobodies appear out of nowhere with a game with shiny graphics and everyone wishlist it. That comes to show that nowadays most "gamers" only care about the graphics and marketing.
If The Day Before had come out in the early 1990s, most people wouldn't even know that it existed due to negative word-of-mouth and extremely poor sales. Then the development studio would likely go under not long after, and no one would ever knew it existed, either. But in 2023, games like The Day Before can gain such high traction in the gaming media, and generate such a hype train which it does not deserve before it all comes crashing down. Something tells me we haven't progressed as a species.
Too true, I've seen some people say that if it was decades ago, this game would have been a huge success. It makes me grimace, those years were the golden age of gaming and there was no room for this crap.
well its the nature of technology, knowledge and information gets transferred instantaneously. We *have* progressed as a species but not fast enough to catch up with how fast technology progresses. We just need to progress faster. Technology is fast, incredibly fast so we haven't been able to keep up with it.
This only other thing this game makes me think, is that there needs to be serious ramifications for false advertising games. Its happened so many times across every popular platform where games are marketed. This biggest hurdle to it is the globalization of game dev tho, each country needs it own legality when it comes to these things.
Anyone who even remotely paid attention at least. Yet somehow too many ignored the obvious and just got it anyway, and then have the nerve to act surprised
i didnt realise who was behind it, but when i saw those faces, i knew what was going on. i hope ALL people can still refund, and one day this will happen to a AAA studio. devs need to start realising that we as gamers are getting sick and tired of this kind of shit.
Apparently there are millions of Gamers who are not sick and tired of this garbage because they continually buy every broken unfinished scam of a game the day it releases on Steam and it's always the top seller so yeah people are stupid especially gamers
Most developers are working really hard for little money. They do it out of passion, because they love working on their vision. But as everywhere, there are just a few rotten apples in the bucket.
I feel really bad hearing this news _-_ Fntastic is from Russian region Yakutia (Sakha in our language) where I'm from. There is little to no game studios in whole Russia, and seeing that studio of your fellow yakuts is a scam is heartbreaking
When you described the process to the release, I kept hearing red flags, lol. I'm surprised it had so much hype when it was smelling so fishy from the start.
And now the studio - Fntastic has closed. They claim that they are out of business because of the disasterious launch. Lol. Not really ironic, just dumb.
I've been on the edge of my seat, popcorn at the ready. The moment I saw the original renders they called gameplay, I knew this was going to be trainwreck to behold. The false advertising genre switcheroo, however, I didn't see coming. So, kudos for plot twist, I guess.
Funniest part is that i refunded with only 6 hour's but didnt get it accpeted bc of the 2 hour limit, but it literally took 2 just to join a server, then when i did did a raid and lost everything in my stash and that i extracted with, but sure, i 'played' i guess, gg i got scammed i guess
The actual company is more Singaporean/Chinese than Russian. It just seems that way because that's what they wrote down. Fnastic is based in Singapore. Feels like a shell company for a Chinese parent company.
The thing that I notice about that is No Man's Sky was a rare case of comeback, lighting in a bottle. It's not a standard. But people keep hoping every single game that launched broken or bare mechanics to have a 'No Man's Sky' comeback some day. These shitty devs know it and they keep selling people an empty promise, not a game.
@@dofydudes1735 some people are inhaling military grade copium, if you read some of the reviews, thay say that with some polish and work, it has great potential, really? another 5 years, 10 years? no amount of time is going to solve this massive mess and accomplish what they promised, specially if they don´t have any employees like Hello Games has, as they only had "volunteers"
People, remember that you can refund your game on Steam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and please, if you have dignity, don't give your money to these shady guys, refund your game.
Just wanted to check by myself ... opended Steam (in Germany) ... the FIRST(!) recommended game "The day before". With close to 10.000 votings and "Äußerst Negativ" (extremely bad) in total. How can Steam still recommend this piece of ... art? Those algorithms are a strange thing. 😂
Im pretty sure they ran out of money and decided to do the early access release for the cashgrab, cuz what this game shows for 5 years of development, it needs a least 15 more to deliver what it has promissed.
Everyone who bought this deserved what they got. How the hell can you not know about this game? How do you not do a quick Google before buying a game? Seriously? At a certain point gamers have to face the fact they are the problem. Shooting their money at hype instead of doing some due diligence and looking for great games. It's the same thing as anyone who was disappointed in Starfield or No Mans Sky or DayZ. Stop preordering, stop buying things on launch, Google the game before you spend money on it. This game has grossed $15M (very rough estimate I did, not factual number) because people are lazy and stupid.
amen to that, i swear the people who blindly buy these kind of games are the AI the day before devs modelled their zombie AI from. Like from all the other game examples we have that had the same issues come up from before, these guys continue buying blindly. Then throw fits like angry toddlers about how they were disapointed XD Hilarious
What's even more sad is that after these games have absolute terrible releases you have the dumb horde of "fans" more zombie than human people who will remain supporting the game regardless. Gamers are just a stupid group of people to be honest. They also enabled all the microtransaction BS that they now complain about (somebody was paying for all those skins).
If no one would buy games on launch there wouldn't be any content to google for before buying the game. I do understand and agree with your point but if we would really follow it to the letter we would stop buying new games altogether.
Aside from "how do people not see this coming" I also have to ask "how did you not see the 5000 negative reviews" before you purchased and piled onto the negative review pile (up to 18k now). Anytime you see "overwhelmingly negative" just stop. Go do some homework and find out WHY before continuing. As for the media hype train, they knew exactly what they were doing. Generate massive hype pulls in lots of views, knowing full well it most likely will be a disaster ... so they can make reactionary content later and pull in massive views. For the game itself, its dead. This isn't a case of polishing a turd, they dont even have a turd (MMO). Also what the owners are doing in the form of volunteer labor is illegal in many countries (including the US) to protect people from being exploited. I fully expect them to "take the money and run" so to speak.
While this is not a genre of game I care for so I had no plans to buy it, I had to watch a streamer play it for a few hours due to all of the controversy surrounding it's development. I was curious to see what they actually released compared to what they were promising. This game was thrown together from asset packs and kits available on the Unreal Marketplace. It's not the worst thing I've ever seen but there is definitely nothing original here. There's nothing resembling all the marketing leading up to it feature wise. And it looked incredibly boring and repetitive IMO, but again, it's not the type of game I care to play.
Steam should pull the game. They really need to start having better measures preventing garbage games and scams on their platform. There's so many porn type anime games on there now it's ridiculous. Even if you aren't interested in those genres they start making it into the lists because of how many are spammed on steam.
Unfortunately that causes issues with who is making the judgement, but more importantly revenue. Making rules for pulling games will hurt Steam's revenue, so ultimately they won't do it. Steam is not a villian in this. This is simply an emergent issue currently hotly contested on all sides. Ideally having high quality control would be great, but as soon as the company takes a hand in it, not only will it cost a ton of manpower to moderate, it will 100% become corrupt as well. Community-based quality control is the best way to deal with this, it's just that the community is easily manipulated and mostly ignorant/apathetic of what goes on behind the scenes. There are often several bad actors within the community as well. (Take a quick look at the Steam Discussions) Videos like these that inform the player community are steps that help this issue. To combat these companies scam people by feeding misinformation, creators keep the community aware of issues by breaking down information easily understood by the layman gamer. However, there are also creators that push misinformation for profit or unknowingly do so. Basically it's media warfare. Another quick note is legality. Games like these are legal. They only need to deliver the minimum and as long as they are "working on it", there is no legal issue. Legality within the games industry is also a giant mess of corruption as well with legalized gambling through a proxy and scam crowd-funded games getting the OK legally.
@@DaskeXSaku It's better for steam's reputation to avoid games that are scams and severely incomplete. You can lose revenue by people exiting your platform due to lack of curation. Look what happened to sites like ebay. It used to be the biggest trading site now it's mostly known to be a haven for scammers. Steam used to curate before and have more oversight with game releases. Now they practically let any game on their platform. It's why searching for decent games on the platform over the years has become such a chore. Other companies like Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo already do this to prevent trash from piling up on their listings and having to constantly refund scam games.
Surely no way they can come back from this. At least with no mans sky the team seemed faithful, they were misleading but definitely passionate about their game. This feels so profit and scam driven that I can't fathom the dev leadership behind it actually caring enough to improve it. There's also no way the trust is brought back
The sad part is that you're wrong. They've made their money and can easily rebrand. Most people either don't know or don't care about who is working on the game. Much like how many AAA companies have constantly screwed over their fanbases and are still thriving, the truth of the matter is that the majority of the gaming community will not take any actual action against these practices even though they posture about it. It's for this same reason that hypetrains and scam games still thrive to this day. The laws around it are also very lenient as well. As long as a product is delivered, the promises made are not legally binding. So scummy developers can, with little to no consequence, lie about their game's scope, deliver the legal minimum, and laugh their way to the paycheck they secured.
You can see definitive proof of this by just looking at the Steam Discussion forum. It's a pretty common sight. Not to mention the clear censorship with the devs moderating the forum deleting threads at will. Trust isn't necessary if you can blind and manipulate people at will. I guarantee you that those reviews will be mixed in a month or two with no actual improvements done.
from my POV, it seems like they created a cheap 1:0.99 copy of various old games that **look** good, then built a studio on that hype, but they didn't even pay their employees
Planning to launch a kickstarter soon and I think this will impact negatively indie developers and proabably my campaign as well, which is disappointing because people who actually work and try to make things right suffer because of games like this one.
I'm from Yakutia where game was made. I was pretty hyped about these guys as they began really well. Looked like they will repeat success of MyTona, our national heroes, because they've managed to become a unicorn company, we had two such companies in our republic before war, now none(lol). At some point MyTona bought them and it gave me a bit of optimism that the game will end up fine, boy was I wrong... To be honest, I believe that the game will eventually become good but PR is too damn bad at this point. upd. I was corrected by my friend that works in MyTona - they weren't bought by MyTona, only financed.
"game will eventually become good", that's the mindset we don't want in todays gaming industry. We shouldn't have broken and buggy games at launch , and expect them to "fix" it down the line. Games should be feature complete on day 1.
The only thing I believe should happen is the two main developers and publishers should get sued by steam for false advertising that would stop a lot of this from happening because somebody needs to take responsibly and be punished for it. I believe just a refund isn't good enough because steam now has to take a hit on their platform and its going to be hard for people to trust steam anymore because of these developers promising a game that doesn't even come close to what they advertised in the trailers. False advertisement is illegal and punishment should come swiftly. This game was nothing but a scam and a huge cash grab and a lot of people got hurt from it especially steam.
*People got scammed bro, how can you trust a shady developer and still say it’ll get better in the future, like bro! You know that dog meme sitting while the place is on fire yaaa that’s the one..*😂😂😂
Probably if you're just honest about what your game is from the start you'll end up with a reasonably appropriate level of hype. Even if you start ambitious and realize "we gotta make this way smaller"...if you realize before you start charging for it, and communicate to your audience, still not the end of the world even if there's some disappointment. If you're intentionally dishonest and double down on it, well, not much to be done for it.
Im just so curious as to how they managed to pull of the trailer way back...I mean it didnt feel like a asset flip it felt like they had genuinly put in some work. This is so weird. But to the point about volonteering....i don´t know, if people agree to work for free is it really the "employers" responsibility to not let them?
yes. because labor laws lol in all seriousness, I think there's definitely a culture of "do this for us now, and when we make money we'll take care of you" it's fairly rampant in software dev (and probably in other industries, but this is the one I work in). It sort of the same kinda thing as those "jobs" where they have you sell knives or whatever it is these days. there's a carrot. and it's exploitative.
This game shouldn't come back from this. It should be removed from Steam completely and black listed from the community sending these developers back into the deepest corners of Siberia to survive in their own survival game living on tree bark!
Imagine how fuked up is this game That every time I open TH-cam I see a new video about it😂 I missed old days that we had sc2 , bf 1 , stronghold and crusader, red alert, ghost recon , sniper elite , nfs most wanted , gta and more
You cannot trust any of these companies anymore. How many times are we going to let ourselves get burned? I refuse to buy any game now on the day it launches because of stuff like this. You have to wait and see how they develop. I usually don't get in until the first major patch. I have avoided this game and Starfield both really hyped but turned out to be just another turd in the punchbowl
That company is trying to figure out how to move that money to crypto right now. They aren't going to try to fix this. They're going to take the money and run. 😂
as soon as I saw this game I knew that it didn't exist it's just fancy animation probably made in blender and people ate it up without questioning it; this is why we should remove pre-order games because it just let's them collect money without putting any work into it and most of them can put something else that wasn't even advertised and hope they don't get sued If I bought this game I would sue them for false advertising
This just highlights the fact that these days it isnt making a good game which seems to count its marketing and only marketing which really counts. All those people buying the game could have waited to find out if it was worth buying.
I would forgive all of the nonfunctional aspects of a game if paying for early alpha access, but to blatantly scam people like this... they should be hit with a class action lawsuit
I was watching hbomberguy's video lately about plagiarism, and how those with no real sense of creativity or originality sometimes have the unfortunate habit of copying others for easy money. There's a difference between being inspired by something and outright stealing. I'm going to guess they decided to copy others... and then when they realised they didn't have the skills to do so, they scrubbed their TH-cam channel clean and gave us a half-baked game.
The leadership team should be ashamed, at that price, early access isn’t even an excuse, they outright lied to get people to buy it, I hope they receive some well deserved legal action.
This days you can add couple random generated elements and say that is roguelike, add couple streets and call it open world, setup trashy server and say that now it’s MMO … no one trying be accurate in promotion and this is result.
Ask not what the studio will pay you, but how much joy you will gain by volenteering for the studio
Dude, but they'll pay you with *EXPOSURE* LOL
Ah, mysterious ruZZian soul
what a CCP attitude to have
@@Trakor1to the frontlines you go! 🇺🇦
Ah yes truly these guys work for the CCP, they truly need the money since the economy might collapse in their country. So they made a big game to get people to buy it and make a lot of money from it. 😮
Unless people refund, they will still have made a lot of money. The reviews you showed did not show 'player refunded the game'.
If steam pulls the game and refunds everyone, that will be the only bad outcome for these 'developers'.
Consumers have the tools to protect themselves but many choose not to use them. It's a shame.
I believe this isn't 100% correct, from what I've seen, players that review after refunding will show the 'refunded' tag, whereas if you review *then* refund, I don't think it updates it showing the refund. (source: is dev of a different Steam game and seen it happen)
60$?! Sure they will ask for refund! This game should cost 5-15$ or even be free with in-app purchases)
Interesting, I did not know this. From a quick google you seem to be right. Valve should fix this, a negative review with or without refund gives much more info. @@FirstCrimson
Living in Siberia, just the money they made from Propnight boosted by the hype for this game will have made them rich by local standards.
False advertising is bad. Copyright theft of advertising style is illegal. I expect it to end badly for them.
>Most great indie games from studios with years of experience get almost no attention
>A group of nobodies appear out of nowhere with a game with shiny graphics and everyone wishlist it.
That comes to show that nowadays most "gamers" only care about the graphics and marketing.
Seems those experienced indie studios don't read the market well, they should blame themselves or keep their expectations realistic.
@@mrpirate4100 You do know that marketing is really expensive, right?
If The Day Before had come out in the early 1990s, most people wouldn't even know that it existed due to negative word-of-mouth and extremely poor sales. Then the development studio would likely go under not long after, and no one would ever knew it existed, either.
But in 2023, games like The Day Before can gain such high traction in the gaming media, and generate such a hype train which it does not deserve before it all comes crashing down. Something tells me we haven't progressed as a species.
Too true, I've seen some people say that if it was decades ago, this game would have been a huge success. It makes me grimace, those years were the golden age of gaming and there was no room for this crap.
well its the nature of technology, knowledge and information gets transferred instantaneously. We *have* progressed as a species but not fast enough to catch up with how fast technology progresses. We just need to progress faster. Technology is fast, incredibly fast so we haven't been able to keep up with it.
This only other thing this game makes me think, is that there needs to be serious ramifications for false advertising games. Its happened so many times across every popular platform where games are marketed. This biggest hurdle to it is the globalization of game dev tho, each country needs it own legality when it comes to these things.
Everyone saw it coming. The amount of times I saw people say "this is not even a real game" on every single teaser or info from them haha
Anyone who even remotely paid attention at least. Yet somehow too many ignored the obvious and just got it anyway, and then have the nerve to act surprised
i didnt realise who was behind it, but when i saw those faces, i knew what was going on. i hope ALL people can still refund, and one day this will happen to a AAA studio. devs need to start realising that we as gamers are getting sick and tired of this kind of shit.
They won't know that while some of our community keeps buying these utter tripe games
Apparently there are millions of Gamers who are not sick and tired of this garbage because they continually buy every broken unfinished scam of a game the day it releases on Steam and it's always the top seller so yeah people are stupid especially gamers
Most developers are working really hard for little money. They do it out of passion, because they love working on their vision. But as everywhere, there are just a few rotten apples in the bucket.
I feel really bad hearing this news _-_ Fntastic is from Russian region Yakutia (Sakha in our language) where I'm from. There is little to no game studios in whole Russia, and seeing that studio of your fellow yakuts is a scam is heartbreaking
I low-key feel like there's something illegal going on with these devs.
100%
what if they are hired by russian ministry of defence to scam entire world helping russian army or russia dealing with sanctions
When you described the process to the release, I kept hearing red flags, lol. I'm surprised it had so much hype when it was smelling so fishy from the start.
People are idiots who blindly believe anything they are fed these days. What do you expect?
This makes the DayZ standalone's early access window, twelve trillion glitches and all, look like a masterpiece.
This looks infinitely better than dayz console and this game looks trashhhhh
"It looks like they are being held at gunpoint" made me rofl 🤣
And now the studio - Fntastic has closed. They claim that they are out of business because of the disasterious launch. Lol. Not really ironic, just dumb.
Very very VERY FUNNY! I love seeing how this whole saga turned out. Hilarious
I've been on the edge of my seat, popcorn at the ready. The moment I saw the original renders they called gameplay, I knew this was going to be trainwreck to behold. The false advertising genre switcheroo, however, I didn't see coming. So, kudos for plot twist, I guess.
Funniest part is that i refunded with only 6 hour's but didnt get it accpeted bc of the 2 hour limit, but it literally took 2 just to join a server, then when i did did a raid and lost everything in my stash and that i extracted with, but sure, i 'played' i guess, gg i got scammed i guess
Dude they made my classmate move to other country with whole of his family, they even sold their house here in Russia, then MyTona just fired him
Catastrophy. Thank you for sharing a good and bad examples of game dev. This one is epic.
The dev team of The day before should go in politics, they are good in lying and deceiving.
The beginning part of the game was literally Fallout New Vegas opening.
"Consider what it takes to beat out Karlsson by D4ni" I was so hoping you'd mention this.
Oh... you don't know what Karlsson is...?
I miss the milkman. Hope we see him again soon 🙏
The actual company is more Singaporean/Chinese than Russian. It just seems that way because that's what they wrote down. Fnastic is based in Singapore.
Feels like a shell company for a Chinese parent company.
Singapore is not China.
Also they are from Siberia. Yakutsk.
We are the Gotovtsev brothers and we want to... pump... this game up.
If they put in the same amount of determination and effort as the "No Man's Sky Dev's," then maybe they can come back.
I wouldn't count on it, though.
The thing that I notice about that is No Man's Sky was a rare case of comeback, lighting in a bottle. It's not a standard.
But people keep hoping every single game that launched broken or bare mechanics to have a 'No Man's Sky' comeback some day. These shitty devs know it and they keep selling people an empty promise, not a game.
@@dofydudes1735 some people are inhaling military grade copium, if you read some of the reviews, thay say that with some polish and work, it has great potential, really? another 5 years, 10 years?
no amount of time is going to solve this massive mess and accomplish what they promised, specially if they don´t have any employees like Hello Games has, as they only had "volunteers"
0:38 but this is wrong trailer! you show us one of the latest (meh) ones!
People, remember that you can refund your game on Steam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and please, if you have dignity, don't give your money to these shady guys, refund your game.
For Unrecord: it does not really matter if the game will look like that. But the demo already showed it CAN look like that. Super realistic graphics.
Just wanted to check by myself ... opended Steam (in Germany) ... the FIRST(!) recommended game "The day before". With close to 10.000 votings and "Äußerst Negativ" (extremely bad) in total. How can Steam still recommend this piece of ... art? Those algorithms are a strange thing. 😂
It tracks traffic coming from outside steam, the more the higher it is
Free to play alternatives: Stalcraft - Stay Out - Will to Live online!
Division 2 is also on sale atm for $9!
So glad I got a refund on this!!
Im pretty sure they ran out of money and decided to do the early access release for the cashgrab, cuz what this game shows for 5 years of development, it needs a least 15 more to deliver what it has promissed.
This game and the company behind it will be hopefully the mainstream example for everything thats wrong in the game branch today.
its an indie company not a AAA. Just like no mans sky devs.
@@lukeGGlee being an indie dev should not be used as an excuse anymore
@@lukeGGleeObviously irrelevant
The only up and coming game I see really living up to the hype train is GTA 6.
I thought it was about some Lost Relic Games video time! Hope you are doing good, mate.
Cheers my dude 🍻
Hey man, doing ok! Christmas/end of year time is always action packed. Hoping to get some consistent content up in the new year
Everyone who bought this deserved what they got. How the hell can you not know about this game? How do you not do a quick Google before buying a game? Seriously? At a certain point gamers have to face the fact they are the problem. Shooting their money at hype instead of doing some due diligence and looking for great games. It's the same thing as anyone who was disappointed in Starfield or No Mans Sky or DayZ. Stop preordering, stop buying things on launch, Google the game before you spend money on it.
This game has grossed $15M (very rough estimate I did, not factual number) because people are lazy and stupid.
amen to that, i swear the people who blindly buy these kind of games are the AI the day before devs modelled their zombie AI from. Like from all the other game examples we have that had the same issues come up from before, these guys continue buying blindly. Then throw fits like angry toddlers about how they were disapointed XD Hilarious
A super refreshing take, absolutely true.
Gamers are the reason games suck and are cash grabs now
What's even more sad is that after these games have absolute terrible releases you have the dumb horde of "fans" more zombie than human people who will remain supporting the game regardless. Gamers are just a stupid group of people to be honest. They also enabled all the microtransaction BS that they now complain about (somebody was paying for all those skins).
If no one would buy games on launch there wouldn't be any content to google for before buying the game. I do understand and agree with your point but if we would really follow it to the letter we would stop buying new games altogether.
Wow, they're ALMOST as dishonest and greedy as the OW2 team. Impressive!
“Hit the spot” video….dead on 👍🏻
It is like their being held at gunpoint. They look very either scared or the other mean word
never trust any word from korean bros😂
Please make a video on showing progress on your own game. Really excited about it.
Processing sales and refunds costs money. It wouldn't surprise me if Steam ends up banning this developer.
When will we learn that "Indie" and "Open world mmo" never go well together lol
Well 4 days after the launch, they closed the Studios and purchase was disabled on the Steam page.
Russia had such gamedev scams before so it’s not surprising that they do it again but now for the whole world)
Yeah, like nobody did it before. The whole Kickstarter is full of such stories.
Aside from "how do people not see this coming" I also have to ask "how did you not see the 5000 negative reviews" before you purchased and piled onto the negative review pile (up to 18k now). Anytime you see "overwhelmingly negative" just stop. Go do some homework and find out WHY before continuing.
As for the media hype train, they knew exactly what they were doing. Generate massive hype pulls in lots of views, knowing full well it most likely will be a disaster ... so they can make reactionary content later and pull in massive views.
For the game itself, its dead. This isn't a case of polishing a turd, they dont even have a turd (MMO). Also what the owners are doing in the form of volunteer labor is illegal in many countries (including the US) to protect people from being exploited. I fully expect them to "take the money and run" so to speak.
While this is not a genre of game I care for so I had no plans to buy it, I had to watch a streamer play it for a few hours due to all of the controversy surrounding it's development. I was curious to see what they actually released compared to what they were promising. This game was thrown together from asset packs and kits available on the Unreal Marketplace. It's not the worst thing I've ever seen but there is definitely nothing original here. There's nothing resembling all the marketing leading up to it feature wise. And it looked incredibly boring and repetitive IMO, but again, it's not the type of game I care to play.
I had it in my wishlist too and I got the notification that it was available… just to login in to steam and see the nightmare level reviews. 😐
Steam should pull the game. They really need to start having better measures preventing garbage games and scams on their platform. There's so many porn type anime games on there now it's ridiculous. Even if you aren't interested in those genres they start making it into the lists because of how many are spammed on steam.
Unfortunately that causes issues with who is making the judgement, but more importantly revenue.
Making rules for pulling games will hurt Steam's revenue, so ultimately they won't do it.
Steam is not a villian in this. This is simply an emergent issue currently hotly contested on all sides.
Ideally having high quality control would be great, but as soon as the company takes a hand in it, not only will it cost a ton of manpower to moderate, it will 100% become corrupt as well.
Community-based quality control is the best way to deal with this, it's just that the community is easily manipulated and mostly ignorant/apathetic of what goes on behind the scenes. There are often several bad actors within the community as well. (Take a quick look at the Steam Discussions)
Videos like these that inform the player community are steps that help this issue.
To combat these companies scam people by feeding misinformation, creators keep the community aware of issues by breaking down information easily understood by the layman gamer. However, there are also creators that push misinformation for profit or unknowingly do so. Basically it's media warfare.
Another quick note is legality. Games like these are legal. They only need to deliver the minimum and as long as they are "working on it", there is no legal issue. Legality within the games industry is also a giant mess of corruption as well with legalized gambling through a proxy and scam crowd-funded games getting the OK legally.
@@DaskeXSaku It's better for steam's reputation to avoid games that are scams and severely incomplete. You can lose revenue by people exiting your platform due to lack of curation. Look what happened to sites like ebay. It used to be the biggest trading site now it's mostly known to be a haven for scammers.
Steam used to curate before and have more oversight with game releases. Now they practically let any game on their platform. It's why searching for decent games on the platform over the years has become such a chore. Other companies like Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo already do this to prevent trash from piling up on their listings and having to constantly refund scam games.
Surely no way they can come back from this. At least with no mans sky the team seemed faithful, they were misleading but definitely passionate about their game. This feels so profit and scam driven that I can't fathom the dev leadership behind it actually caring enough to improve it. There's also no way the trust is brought back
The sad part is that you're wrong.
They've made their money and can easily rebrand. Most people either don't know or don't care about who is working on the game.
Much like how many AAA companies have constantly screwed over their fanbases and are still thriving, the truth of the matter is that the majority of the gaming community will not take any actual action against these practices even though they posture about it.
It's for this same reason that hypetrains and scam games still thrive to this day. The laws around it are also very lenient as well. As long as a product is delivered, the promises made are not legally binding. So scummy developers can, with little to no consequence, lie about their game's scope, deliver the legal minimum, and laugh their way to the paycheck they secured.
You can see definitive proof of this by just looking at the Steam Discussion forum. It's a pretty common sight.
Not to mention the clear censorship with the devs moderating the forum deleting threads at will.
Trust isn't necessary if you can blind and manipulate people at will. I guarantee you that those reviews will be mixed in a month or two with no actual improvements done.
from my POV, it seems like they created a cheap 1:0.99 copy of various old games that **look** good, then built a studio on that hype, but they didn't even pay their employees
Planning to launch a kickstarter soon and I think this will impact negatively indie developers and proabably my campaign as well, which is disappointing because people who actually work and try to make things right suffer because of games like this one.
I'm from Yakutia where game was made. I was pretty hyped about these guys as they began really well. Looked like they will repeat success of MyTona, our national heroes, because they've managed to become a unicorn company, we had two such companies in our republic before war, now none(lol). At some point MyTona bought them and it gave me a bit of optimism that the game will end up fine, boy was I wrong... To be honest, I believe that the game will eventually become good but PR is too damn bad at this point.
upd. I was corrected by my friend that works in MyTona - they weren't bought by MyTona, only financed.
lmao якутские деды moment
"game will eventually become good", that's the mindset we don't want in todays gaming industry. We shouldn't have broken and buggy games at launch , and expect them to "fix" it down the line. Games should be feature complete on day 1.
@@ryuno2097 game is in early access, but yeah I completely agree with you.
@@ФедорГаврильев-к1р early access, it should have been free, not pay them to become their beta testers
@@ФедорГаврильев-к1р"game will eventually be good" sure... not like they abandoned every single game before that bs
I CANNOT WAIT for Unrecorded to be exposed. It's amazing what people will believe. And no, the devs didn't prove s***.
unrecorded is real.. You can even follow a Unreal Engine 5 tutorial on how to create the realistic bodycam effect
We’ve gotta get the law involved now. Game companies have gotten away with too much lately. It’s time to bring the hammer down.
3:00 proper North-Korea motivation speech.
Honestly the most predictable thing ever
Their PR looks like "There is no war in Ba Sing Se" meme
"looks like a AAA game made by Ubisoft"
LOL that is actually a savage burn
The only thing I believe should happen is the two main developers and publishers should get sued by steam for false advertising that would stop a lot of this from happening because somebody needs to take responsibly and be punished for it. I believe just a refund isn't good enough because steam now has to take a hit on their platform and its going to be hard for people to trust steam anymore because of these developers promising a game that doesn't even come close to what they advertised in the trailers. False advertisement is illegal and punishment should come swiftly. This game was nothing but a scam and a huge cash grab and a lot of people got hurt from it especially steam.
It feel good in that case to witness how comments and reviews on Steam are working to knock down a poor game like that.
It's the cold time of the year. Oh, a warm dumpster fire. Sweet.
*People got scammed bro, how can you trust a shady developer and still say it’ll get better in the future, like bro! You know that dog meme sitting while the place is on fire yaaa that’s the one..*😂😂😂
Probably if you're just honest about what your game is from the start you'll end up with a reasonably appropriate level of hype.
Even if you start ambitious and realize "we gotta make this way smaller"...if you realize before you start charging for it, and communicate to your audience, still not the end of the world even if there's some disappointment.
If you're intentionally dishonest and double down on it, well, not much to be done for it.
I sense a battle looming - of stopping the bad aspects of Mobile from seeping into and becoming the norm on PC too. Everyone please refund.
Who needs game making experience? This game is just a bunch of assets from the UE marketplace worth 300$.
Steam is where indie games go to die!
Can't wait for the day after
That guys grin is creepy as hell tho.
Im just so curious as to how they managed to pull of the trailer way back...I mean it didnt feel like a asset flip it felt like they had genuinly put in some work. This is so weird.
But to the point about volonteering....i don´t know, if people agree to work for free is it really the "employers" responsibility to not let them?
yes. because labor laws lol
in all seriousness, I think there's definitely a culture of "do this for us now, and when we make money we'll take care of you" it's fairly rampant in software dev (and probably in other industries, but this is the one I work in). It sort of the same kinda thing as those "jobs" where they have you sell knives or whatever it is these days. there's a carrot. and it's exploitative.
Yea everything that demands some creativity seems be "for free"....@@cassolmedia
@2:51 anyone else think the video "The Culture of Volunteering at Fntastic" looks like they faked their faces?
This game shouldn't come back from this. It should be removed from Steam completely and black listed from the community sending these developers back into the deepest corners of Siberia to survive in their own survival game living on tree bark!
Best part about being a volunteer game dev is that you won't be held accountable for FNTASTICS incoming lawsuits. Take these scammers down.
Imagine how fuked up is this game
That every time I open TH-cam I see a new video about it😂
I missed old days that we had sc2 , bf 1 , stronghold and crusader, red alert, ghost recon , sniper elite , nfs most wanted , gta and more
Remember Ubisoft does this same scam year after year with there trailers and people gobble it up and don't bat an eye
Bro when will you'r game come i was waiting for it
Never heard of that game before.
Someone should make everything they advertised with BattleBit graphics.
It exploded like i did on the toilet a few hours ago.
LOL and EVERYONE thought Propnight was going to destroy Dead by Daylight.
You cannot trust any of these companies anymore. How many times are we going to let ourselves get burned? I refuse to buy any game now on the day it launches because of stuff like this. You have to wait and see how they develop. I usually don't get in until the first major patch. I have avoided this game and Starfield both really hyped but turned out to be just another turd in the punchbowl
Wazzup everyone! 😊
Imagine working on a game for free and have it tarnish your reputation before you even get started in the business.
*imploded is probably a more accurate term as opposed to "exploded" - GTA VI will "explode" when it comes out
This game was made by Fntastic? It's more like Fntastically pathetic.
Not sorry for the bad pun.
I made this exact pun in the steam discussions forum for this game and Fntastic permabanned me for "slander".
Oh yeah- and I tried to appeal the obvious false ban and steam said they "couldn't do anything about it."
Fntastic is a scumbag developer.
@@thejayman1886 Tell me about it. Honestly, I really hope it's going to be their downfall for lying.
@@CrusaderJacky let's roast marshmallows together over the flaming corpse of Fntastics failed "game"!
That company is trying to figure out how to move that money to crypto right now.
They aren't going to try to fix this. They're going to take the money and run. 😂
as soon as I saw this game I knew that it didn't exist it's just fancy animation probably made in blender and people ate it up without questioning it; this is why we should remove pre-order games because it just let's them collect money without putting any work into it and most of them can put something else that wasn't even advertised and hope they don't get sued
If I bought this game I would sue them for false advertising
Does Dead Matter count in this category or does that not meet the hype requirement? If so I feel like Dead Matter takes the cake
The devs' greed isn't the problem, it's the consumers that is the root cause of problems like this. Don't feed the hype train.
What?!?! Our slaves LIKE it!
"Say YES to life!"
The Last Night game developers are the best example that, how they respect their audience...
This just highlights the fact that these days it isnt making a good game which seems to count its marketing and only marketing which really counts. All those people buying the game could have waited to find out if it was worth buying.
I would forgive all of the nonfunctional aspects of a game if paying for early alpha access, but to blatantly scam people like this... they should be hit with a class action lawsuit
Why is anyone acting suprised? WIth the shady stuff the developers were pulling even before launch anyone actually thought this was anything but shit?
I was watching hbomberguy's video lately about plagiarism, and how those with no real sense of creativity or originality sometimes have the unfortunate habit of copying others for easy money.
There's a difference between being inspired by something and outright stealing.
I'm going to guess they decided to copy others... and then when they realised they didn't have the skills to do so, they scrubbed their TH-cam channel clean and gave us a half-baked game.
They have to sue them. No shot they get away with this.
The leadership team should be ashamed, at that price, early access isn’t even an excuse, they outright lied to get people to buy it, I hope they receive some well deserved legal action.
They literally just made a worst vigor 😭 This makes Vigor look like a damn triple A game compared to this crap
Smells like an intentional scam that just didn’t work out as well as they hoped.
Please continue your regular devlogs 👌
This days you can add couple random generated elements and say that is roguelike, add couple streets and call it open world, setup trashy server and say that now it’s MMO … no one trying be accurate in promotion and this is result.