Will they pay more for a 29er? Flipping a Trek Marlin Mountain Bike
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 พ.ค. 2024
- In this episode of Flip Bike, we upgrade and modernize a Trek Marlin 29er mountain bike, which is just a little bit outdated. A new Marlin 5 costs more than this, and comes with a 2x8 drivetrain with no clutch. It's incredible how expensive bikes are getting!
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Honestly it’s been unreal watching a guy in Florida working on his porch and using a closet evolve into a property owner making professional productions and owning a freaking bike park. Well done Seth we can’t wait to see what else you have in the works!
Exactly bro its crazy🤯
Yo you are so right!!
No cap
So true I've been watching since those virginia key days...
Man has been on a non stop grind! It's been one hell of a journey,and has been awesome to follow! It's amazing that he managed to make the hack videos and bike repairs so good, while working on his balcony with a basic tool kit, still getting the same results then as he does now with a massive workshop and every tool in existence!!!
I guess, Seth's gonna continue this series until he runs out of old Box parts. Hopefully the stream of large cassettes and used derailleurs out of these black boxes never ends!
I did something similar but I sold my Trek Marlin with a huge loss to a kid. The smile he had riding it made it worth it. He got Mavic rims and Hope hubs. A Rockshox fork with lockout on the handlebar. Dropper seat post and wider handlebars. Tubeless setup with Cushcore and Maxxis minion tires. Magura mt7 brakes and 1x drivetrain. Pilgrips and Saint pedals
That's really nice of you making a loss on that bike for that kid!
Stuff like that can make such a huge change in someone's life, no joke he might use it almost everyday, who knows how well he's doing in 10 years because of that.
That’s really nice! But how does someone spend that much on a Marlin!? Lol
Kid took it and sold for a profit 😂… joking aside it’s nice to know there are still good people out there that value a kid smiling more than making a quick buck…
I put a full carbon ritchey fork on my marlin 5 with a shimano XT group set also with hope hubs laced to the stock rims because those original rims aren’t bad
As an employee at Walmart I’ve seen that we actually have bike parts and tools at the store. I was wondering if you would do a video on fixing a Walmart bike with parts you get from Walmart or Walmart’s website. It would be cool to be able to see how much you can change with Walmarts “affordable” parts.
This is such a good idea
Such a great video idea!
I'd kind of like to see what Seth could do with a higher end Enduro bike. I would assume that's what the majority of his following rides and that the majority of his following is in the position to flip their own bike every 2 to 5 years. Could Seth find a well ridden Enduro bike that hasn't received much love and attention and make a profit off it?
That’s what my friend does. He found a Santa Cruz Nomad for $2400, fixed it up, and is selling it for $5200
I've been looking for just such a bike! What I notice is that most people with higher end enduro bikes take care of them and want a lot of money 😂. I'm always looking though
@@SethsBikeHacks want to buy my 2017 Rocky Mountain Slayer? 🙂Coincidentally it was even previously owned by another TH-camr, “Will to Ride”, so between the two of us, it’s thoroughly “ridden”. Carbon frame, 27.5” wheels. I’ve got ‘22 altitude coming this month.
He did it a few years ago with a Giant Reign for Steady Spin. I would like to see another with say a 2016 Jeffsey or similar
Repent to Jesus Christ
“Then he said to them, “My soul is overwhelmed with sorrow to the point of death. Stay here and keep watch with me.””
Matthew 26:38 NIV
K
14:20 You mentioned the lifetime Trek warranty - it's a great warranty but just a heads up that it is not transferrable. I broke my Top Fuel and was devastated to learn that it isn't covered!!!
How does life time warranty work if the bike is 10 years old? Will they give you a newer model or refund
@@oo0024 Exactly, And yup - the warranty is for the original purchaser only.
@@oo0024 I bought a brand new Marlin 6 for 700 bucks
@@oo0024 NX Eagle is trash though
@@byp4ss514 actually remarkable for the pennies you pay for it, but go off king
I actually really like the white accents on older bikes like my blue and white 2011 Giant Talon 3. I think that it makes the bike unique and stand out from a lot of more modern ones that all seem to be painted gloss black and matte black.
I agree
Same, I got a 2014 Giant Revel 1 and with a little cleaning up the white looks awesome
Same, love the look
I agree, I have a 2012 Mamba and a couple matte black/stealth bikes and I need some color in my life. Bring the 90s colors back
The black, grey, white, and the gold accents just look badass. This somewhat older trek reminds me of a friend's trek I'm restoring somewhat. But damn did you restore that bike nicely 🔥
Repent to Jesus Christ
“Then he said to them, “My soul is overwhelmed with sorrow to the point of death. Stay here and keep watch with me.””
Matthew 26:38 NIV
J
Should have given it Shimano MT200. $50 reliable hydraulic brakes. Cable disc brakes are just walmart bike tier brakes.
@@sepg5084 well maybe but knowing that trek makes really good bikes especially budget ones, I'm pretty sure the parts they use while not being top tier is a bigger step up from Walmart tier parts. While Walmart may use cable disc brakes, the brake pads themselves and the calipers themselves are made a lot cheaper and most of the time don't even have names. Trek doesn't really use no name parts when it comes to something important relating to safety aspects of the bike. And Tektro brakes from my experience work way better than Walmart brakes and stop pretty strong and if it works good I don't see the need to getting new ones 🤷
I freaked out when I saw it on FB a while back. It stood out as a BP flip bike due to the quality of the images over everyone else(not to mention the BP stickers if you looked close enough). I wish I'd had a few extra dollars in my pocket to grab it, as it looked amazing. Love what you're doing with this Seth! I hope the series has a long run.
Yay flip Bike is back! I love this series and it’s good for me because even tho I already fix up bikes and repaint them, the little tips you show on how to adjust the spokes and fork services gives me confidence to rip apart my fork and Regrease the internal parts. Thank you Seth 🤙
Don't be afraid of servicing moving parts :-)
@@Jacksparrow4986 trust me lol I have restored so many bikes it ain’t fit.
I also build motorized bikes and I make custom side panels to make them look like the old motorcycles. Working on 2 stroke engines and getting more power out of them is way harder than taking apart a mtb fork.
@@keeganhache6667 hi deer i really do love my stink hole scent i love inhaling this sweet scent it is really wreakign right now my stinky sphinky is good sniffing honestly
Blacking out the crown and inverting the stickers was like.... that cherry on top level of refurbish and restoration. I freaking love it and that's just outstanding how well it turned out.
Really enjoying this flip bike series. Keep up the great work Seth .
Great video, very informative and brings a lot if knowledge… quick question though… how did you end up fitting an 11speed cassette? Did you change the hub or used the stock? Reason i ask is that I have a 2018 Marlin 5 and the hub can only accept up to 7speed. Thanks!
he started out in florida on a trek hardtail now he has a free moutain bike trail to the public and his own personal trail this guy works really hard for all of the stuff he does and deserves it keep up the good work
Wow this is crazy. A month ago my friend gave me this exact same Trek Marlin Gary Fischer Edition 29er in the Black/Red/White color way. I did the exact same upgrades with a 1X drivetrain, new chain, trued the wheels, added Maxxis tires, and a Hussefelt stem. I’m into mine now for just under $400 and I’m absolutely in love with my bike.
in 2020 the trek marlin 5 retailed for $550 dollars brand new, now it retails for $720. Unbelievable!
That did upgrade some things such as the drivetrain and the fork
Yes i paid like $780 here in canada for my 2019 Trek Marlin 6 in 2019, came with a $100 tune up service but i never ended up using that cause im dumb but also cause it stayed mint till about now and I didn’t have my own vehicle to transport the bike to get tuned up
Edit:
So after 3 years and a bit the suntour fork is junk the 3x drive train is junk everything makes noise, the bottom bracket sucks
All i upgraded was the stem (shorter) like in the video and grips and pedals and adjusted my bars and the whole cockpit to make it feel as aggressive as possible on a budget
I road this bike like a enduro/trail bike sometimes even like a downhill bike, just launching off any form of a jump as fast as i could go but i was never near a mountain lol
I am looking at The Marin Hawk Hill 1 as my next bike as its readily available to me and in my budget
I bought this years Marlin 6 for 900 after tax, so far it’s been a worth wile purchase
while that is true, they did shift the marlin lineup a bit, the 2022 Marlin 5 is pretty much equivalent to the 2020 Marlin 6, and there is now a Marlin 4 that retails for 600 i believe. so prices have definitely gone up, but not as drastically as it seems as first
@@keanewoolever5161 that cheap Amazon crank 😂 also that bike came out in 2012 LOL 700 bucks for a 10 year old frame 🤣
The numbers we see at the price breakdown don't always impress, but you also have to take into consideration the amount he makes off of ad revenue on these videos. Every time I watch one of these videos, I hope that ad revenue number is high, because he obviously puts a massive amount of work into the bike and the video itself, making it entertaining, amazing cinematography, and always something new to be learned.
Lifetime warranty for most bike brands, including Trek, are for the original owner only, and most companies won't make exceptions for that. Just FYI for those who might be hoping for warranty on second hand bikes.
My question is if the bike is 10 years old how does life time warranty work would they replace the frame with newer model or offer you a refund
@@oo0024 if they happen to have a frame they would give it to you but the chances are it would have failed before hand. I have seen people get discounts on newer frames when the company doesn't have the old one.
Just picked up a small specialized rockhopper on 29s. Feels like a bmx cruiser. Love it lol
Man these episodes really got me into repairing and upgrading my own bike. Thank you Seth for being so inspiring!
I feel you.
Awesome restoration - lucky new owner, personally I would have left the saddle unpainted though 🚲
Repent to Jesus Christ
“Then he said to them, “My soul is overwhelmed with sorrow to the point of death. Stay here and keep watch with me.””
Matthew 26:38 NIV
K
Yeah won't the paint rub off on the next user's shorts over time?
I feel like paint on the flexible seat material is just gonna fall apart and ruin whoever’s riding it’s shorts
absolutely
So I will he honest I’ve been watching this man for a little over 6 years and I don’t mountain bike never have but his videos have always been so entertaining to me so for that Seth, Thank you for entertaining me for over 6 years! 🙏🏾
Gold headset spacer needs a tiny Berm Peak decal
That Fork sending the buyer over the handlebars -- Priceless.
Only issue... you mention lifetime warranty. But that only applies to original owner. The person you sell it to will not have a warranty. And if you were second owner, you didn't have a warranty, either.
Just pointing that out so you don't accidentally mislead someone.
Good luck getting the two edges on that hand-cut stem spacer parallel and square! You can even see in the video that they are not. Everything else hid did was good, but I wouldn't encourage anyone to make their own headset spacers unless you want to reduce your headset's lifespan significantly with uneven loading or if you have some precision cutting/finishing machinery.
I know next to nothing about bikes, but I had that same question. I am mechanically inclined though.
maaaan... thats mad. no one realised how smooth the end was..... golden touch up with the chain, kashima boot spacer??? and the ergons were the cheery of the cake..... respect and spread love
I’ve been waiting so long for flip bike!
quick tip - use the crown race setting like a slide hammer while holding the fork in the air in your other hand. That way you don't risk damaging the dropouts by resting those on your bench.
I've always just held everything upside down, and banged the end of the PVC pipe into the garage floor. No risk of damage, plenty of impact force that's easy to control.
I just got a brand new 2022 trek marlin seven
Same here lol
Who?
When?
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I keep coming back to watch your old episodes of you upgrading old bikes, I love them. Blessings , my brother .
YES! I’ve been waiting to see this. It’s been poking around in the background of your videos! I had a 2020 trek marlin 6 as my first “real” mtb. Upgraded it a shit ton before selling. That bad boy got me into it so much I bought a remedy last year. Thanks for making my night Seth your videos are awesome!
In U.S., new is dirt cheap, but used is expensive... go figure... in UK, u would be lucky to get any money for it before it was flipped...probably be a freecycle bike....
I’m a bike mechanic and this is exactly the content I’m looking for. Keep up the good work, these flip bikes are a great content and I’m excited for more!
Love these flip bike episodes and how much effort you put into every bike. Please keep on with this ✌️
Seth, this is very minute, but an easy step to increase the longevity of quality would be to apply clearcoat both under and over instead of just over the stickers. That way, if and when the sticker does fall off it will be the same glossy finish as the rest of the bike.
I always use a mismatched colour for the quicklink on my chains - makes it easier to find later!
Hey Seth, I wouldn't suggest using those IXF Cranks. Had a set in blue that failed catastrophically while riding at college. To be more specific, the sprocket side crank arm snapped at the spider mid climb and took out a hunk of my leg. My freshman engineering professor (also a MTB'er) pointed out that it had failed due to a crack that widened itself out. Also, the set arrived with the sprocket side crank not properly anodized.
Thanks Seth. I just followed your lead an re-did my 2012 Marlin. Looks great, rides even better.
Awesome work. Just got my flip bike sweatshirt today in the mail. Thanks it’s awesome!
Hussefelt stem on a tourer bike is such a flex! Pricing though is a bit crazy for the rest of the parts, but absolutely worth the work
Can’t wait for the trail building season! :D
hi
The articulate way you describe maintenance keeping things so so so simple but comprehensive wows me. I teach daily to the general public and low income the ins and outs of bicycle repair and this level of compression is what I could only dream of teaching at. Thank you so much for producing such a powerful demonstration on this format and organizing this shared information. It helps people get on bikes a lot!
Ps! One time we had a bike donated that had been restored using your techniques (I know this because the berm peak stickers all over the SICK custom paint job) and it absolutely warmed my heart. Love peace and bicycle grease
This was my second Berm Peak Video and I become not only a subscriber but also a fan! You do a very nice job and you seem to be a nice guy too! I really like to watch how aged bikes are send back on trail and I appreciate the fact that you also reuse old parts.
Love this series and seeing all the different bikes that get restored. Pls keep flip bike episodes coming! But as someone that has worked at a trek dealership for years, that frame unfortunately only has a lifetime warranty for the original owner. :/
I used a PVC pipe with a cap and a mallet to set my crown race and it works pretty well. Really like the use of the Fox fork for the spacer!
Same here mate ! A little bit less expansive than the (magnificent and overbuild) Parkside dedicated tool for this one time job ! Also I made my own headset cup remover by cutting a metal pipe at one end and bending outwards the sides. I bet you know what I'm talking about.
Came out great Seth! Entertaining as always, thanks bud!
You sir make quality builds! My favourite part about your channels, bringing the old into the modern 👍
My first good mountain bike was a 2019 trek marlin 5 which I got in Vermont for 550 plus tax. It’s awesome, I still have it, and I think I might keep upgrading it, just to see what happens
Instead of flipping outdated xc bikes you should do some early 2000s clasic full suspensions like the norco shore or the kona stinky. That would be sick!
I moved from Waynesville to NW Montana last year, and I've gotta say I miss NC. Watching your videos feels like home!
Good stuff! Enjoyed watching, thanks.
Won't the frames warranty only apply to the first owner? I've never heard of second hand bikes being covered.
Bingo! This is true of most bike brands. As a bike shop employee, I often have to break the bad news to the second owner of a now-broken bike that they have no warranty.
treks newer than 2020 get a lifetime warranty for the first owner and a 3 year warranty from original date of purchase for second and subsequent owners, models older than that get a lifetime warranty for the first owner and nothing for subsequent owners
700 dollars and not even hydraulic brakes??
Quality of your videos and talking points are top notch. keep it up
I’ve been watching your videos for a few months now , this is awesome. After looking at new ones for a bit I actually just found and bought this exact Gary fisher trek marlin off marketplace. I think I paid around 150 for it but it had hardly been ridden by an much older guy just around camp grounds and kept inside. Same color and everything too. From my research I think it’s a 2012 . This video helped me so much because I have been wondering what I could do to it . Thank you so much for your videos 😊
The rear tire is not mounted correctly, the "v" shape made by the tire's tread should point to the front
I run my rear backwards on purpose. I get better climing traction
I thought trek frames only had a lifetime warranty if you were the first owner.
that's correct, once sold the warranty is null and void
Yeah, but when he says, Trek has lifetime warranty frames he means that they are a super solid brand, confident in their product. Not that this particular bike has a lifetime warranty. It's just a way to say it's an excellent frame
@@geoffbaker4625 thats Not true, the warranty gets down to 6 years
Absolutely love watching the flip bike stuff! Keep them coming !
You gotta move closer to me so I can get some of those sweet sweet deals on bikes! I really don't get the adding up all the costs in parts when the true value is in all the skill, talent and passion you bring to fixing up the bike. That is priceless~!
$700 for an older bike with outdated geometry is pretty crazy, but if someone's willing to pay it...
Worse in my area, got a used 2011 specialized rockhopper for 500. I spent over a year looking for something decent and that was it. More than the bike blue book but there hasn't been anything cheaper.
$650 for a Marlin with an Amazon crankset and a base Suntour fork. I feel bad for that dude
yup...
I purchased a brand new 2022 marlin 6 with a deore crankset for $700. This was nota good deal.
The grips are a nice touch, I love the color coordination touch you put to the bike. Keep the positivity going!
I have now watched all of the flip bike videos and I need some more 👍 keep up the good work
Hey Seth I have a question about painting seats. Don't you think after a while of constant riding that the paint would rub off on someone's pants eventually? I was always curious of that every time I see you painting a seat.
I preferred the saddle unpainted 😉
Personally I think Seth is getting really lucky with these sales, 640 is still steep for that bike, I get there are some decent parts on it like the rear mech, but you can buy a much more modern bike for that money used.
Man I gotta find out where you are, in the UK where I am any mtb in usable condition made in the last 8 years is expensive as hell rn, and that's nothing compared to back in lockdown
Glad to see someone else agrees, it had cable brakes… that alone would mean I wouldn’t pay more than £300 for it, especially for a bike that age
You're probably right, but at the same time this bike does get the "trek tax" plus used prices vary more than you'd expect based on your location
Well to all those points, I'm pretty sure a trek roscoe 6 within the last 3 years is like 800 rn where I am so although that is expensive for what a roscoe 6 has, it isn't much more than the 700 Seth was asking
Right now at chain reaction you can buy a 2021 vitus nucleus vrs for £599 with free UK delivery.
Awesome video! I'm rebuilding my Trek Marlin right now after a winters worth of wear, decided to but a Box group set on it because of your videos, keep it up!
Bike looks completely transformed!! Excellent job
Finaly
Hi Seth, got a question. I know it's a flip bike, but it's a size large, so mechanical brakes are just not safe when you have some extra pounds. A pair of basic shimano or magura brakes, or even the popular in Europe - shigura ( shimano lever with a magura caliper) would be better and safer. First step of having fun is to have control in order to learn learn. cheers mate!
I kind of agree. But being someone how has had a bike with cable and hydraulic(same bike i swapped to hydraulic because i couldnt get pads) cable breaks are more then enough to cause the tire to lock up and slow you down. Granted they are not as easy to keep from locking up and need some force at times. I wouldnt say they are unsafe.
Seth, I have been LOVING your flip bike series! great job!
Keep the bike flips coming, great content. 👍👍👍
I don't get how you're selling bikes like this for this much, at $640, mechanical brakes, a suntour coil fork, and that much age on a bike should have made it sell for a lot less. Around me you can get a late 00s or early 10s full sus with air suspension and hydraulic brakes for that much
Different markets all around the country and the power of being a good seller. The way he photographs and describes the bike in the ad helps immensely. Some people are just not good sellers and will do one or two crappy photos and no details in the description. There’s a lot of money to be made just by flipping stuff with better ads.
I'm guessing they get a discount for singing a model release form & appearing on the videos
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Love flip bike Seth my favourite playlist on TH-cam. All my friends out in Canada watch you
Finally!! Been waiting for this one. 👌🏻 thanks!
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I just did the same thing to a Trek Marlin small for my wife. 1x converted, new tires, wider bars and stem. Got ride of the white seat and I need to paint the fork now that I watched this. Awesome flip!
Thanks Seth. You make the video look so easy to understand and process. I do know it takes time when you put your hands on bike to fix and repair yet you are so much inspirational that I want to jump on and do. I remember first time I saw your video, I finished all the videos and digging all of your videos. Now I have been watching your channel over 3 years and I learned a lot. Now I am dealing with neighbours, friends and their friends in my locals for bike tune ups and repairs. First flip bike for DB was one that I am dealing with most in my garage shop since I have so many seniors dropping by with their old classic bikes. Well, now the trends are eBike for seniors and I was wondering if you happen to try convert one of your bike to eBike. That would be fun contents that you may interest. Anyway, thanks again for awesome videos and helpful tips.
Love this series! Thanks for doing it Seth!
Dude you rock... Just got into biking again and your channel is real great content thanks for sharing your knowledge
Love the heat shrink tip for cable routing
Seth has nailed the stickers
I love all your videos of rebuilding bikes you inspired me to start doing it again and since you first video doing this I’ve done 5 bikes now and made a really good profit of them. Thanks for sharing all your content buddy
The right kind of bait and switch! Another class act from Seth. Great video.
Hi Seth...I just love this flip bikes. I know what you're going to say and do..its always a change to 1X drive train ( eventhough you admit a 2X or 3X is as good) and always a shorter stem and wider bars ( eventhough the old short top tube geometries may not suit everyone)..but I keep watching and want to do my own flips.. the part I love the best..is staring at the bike...I do that every time I come back from a ride. Thanks and keep up the good work...keep the flips coming.
I always use a different color master link (gold) on a dura chain, makes it easier to find when I take the chain off for a cleaning.
I love your work man! 😍 Give us more of these.
These flip bike videos are very satisfying to watch!
Can't get enough of these flips. Amazing work 💪
So love the flip bike series. I learn so much from it.
I LOVE that headset spacer! What a good idea.
doing good work Seth. keep up the positive vibes.
It's impressive how well you clean these bikes up. Very satisfying to watch.
I like the change in music when he started talking about the gold chain: D
Always great videos thanks 👍
Love how the 808s kick in when Seth talks about putting on a gold chain on the bike.
I've been somewhat impatiently waiting for this one when I saw it in the background of one of your other videos. I have the same bike and actually converted it to a one by as well with the same exact crank. Fun watch!
I enjoyed how you brought life into this old bike. Back in the day I bought the Mamba (same basic bike but purple/black paint scheme) and put on 700 x 3500 Kenda Cyclocross tires. With a locked out fork it works great on gravel rail trails/ blacktop. On a side note -I like the background music in your videos …keep up the good work!
This is a really good series, one of my favorite to watch on youtube