Restoring a VERY neglected 'mystery' full squish

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  • Today, I don’t even know what we’re restoring. None of the original labels were on this mid 2000’s full suspension bike, but it turned out to be a diamond in the rough. We break this bike down, restore it to its former glory, and sell it to someone who will put it back on the trails.
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    This bike looks very similar to the Santa Cruz Heckler, and Superlight. However, the cable routing and rear triangle design are very different upon close inspection.
    The Diamondback Atroz also looks almost exactly like this bike, however the derailleur hangers don’t match, and the rear triangles have significant design differences.
    The Cannondale Rush looks very similar as well, and indeed the cable routing matches. However, the Rush uses a different derailleur hanger and has noticeable design differences all around the bike.
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  • @charlessnowden2831
    @charlessnowden2831 2 ปีที่แล้ว +639

    Pell’s Ridelight was an expensive bike, it came in four (4) models: Pro $1,200 US, Elite $1,600, Race $2,300 and Team $4,450 USD! It appears the bike that Seth was restoring was the Ridelight Elite. Whoever got it for $525 got a great deal.

    • @harrygillman213
      @harrygillman213 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      charles the detective's got it!

    • @doriansolomon-miller187
      @doriansolomon-miller187 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Damnnn you good well done detective, just searched it and found it.

    • @sge4r513
      @sge4r513 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nah Man that's a Santa Cruz Superlight

    • @alan_davis
      @alan_davis ปีที่แล้ว +16

      ​@sge4r513 No, it really isn't...

    • @user-vb2lq8hn9h
      @user-vb2lq8hn9h 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      It actually is an early 2000s Santa cruz superlight which does look a little like the pells ridelight

  • @desertexpress7899
    @desertexpress7899 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2560

    Dude if this whole flip bike thing is going to be bigger you definitely need a ultrasonic cleaner. I wish I had bought this earlier for my motorcycle workshop.

    • @silasmaxwell6745
      @silasmaxwell6745 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      What cleaner do you use?, Best thing I've found is the purple simply green industrial degreaser, it cleans almost anything.

    • @masonjohnson1987
      @masonjohnson1987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@silasmaxwell6745 I use vinegar personality for anything rusted, let it soak for 30min and the rust will come right off. For dirty parts I’ll wash them with mean green and spray them with WD-40 to get them shining like new. Easiest cheapest way I’ve found.

    • @PepsiGuidesRS
      @PepsiGuidesRS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      More useful videos without expensive tools

    • @Bpf1893
      @Bpf1893 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@masonjohnson1987 CLR in the ultrasonic works great for rust.

    • @trentbuescher4725
      @trentbuescher4725 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i came here to say the same thing

  • @mattytownsend9633
    @mattytownsend9633 2 ปีที่แล้ว +256

    What I love about Seth is that he will never be satisfied with a half hearted job, he will always to do it to the best of his ability and it’s really great to watch.

    • @birdcage189
      @birdcage189 ปีที่แล้ว

      ◈◈

    • @04dram04
      @04dram04 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats why you should never restore and product you are passionate about. You will spend way to much time and money one it, compared to what you get back in sales

    • @danimayb
      @danimayb ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@04dram04 The whole point of passion is enjoyment, And he enjoyed restoring a bike back to full glory back onto the trails and made a couple hundred bux in the process. What's the issue?

  • @epock7
    @epock7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +198

    This may be a stretch, but hear me out. Back in 2006 there was a store called Backcountry Outdoors that lived under the giant salamander at Pisgah highway (this store has since moved across the highway and I believe is now the citadel called The Hub). They used to sell some home brand mountain bikes which from my memory were simple single pivot frames like this. Given where you live and the age of this bike, it is possible it came from there, which would be pretty cool!

    • @midastico
      @midastico 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The fork is from 2008 tho

    • @fetB
      @fetB 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@midastico could be a 2008 model or the forks were upgraded

    • @midastico
      @midastico 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fetB yeah true

    • @TheCircleFactory
      @TheCircleFactory 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Harvey bike!

  • @joyfuflower
    @joyfuflower 2 ปีที่แล้ว +197

    This was more of a rescue than a restoration, love seeing bikes get sent on the trails instead of to a landfill!

    • @n.s.3410
      @n.s.3410 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bike rescue indeed.

  • @allenlebaron8993
    @allenlebaron8993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +377

    didn’t even realize this was just posted. love the videos seth. you got me stoked to try mountain biking after i stopped bmxing as a teenager finally 4 years later i got myself a mountain bike and have been riding loads

    • @jimmy8x541
      @jimmy8x541 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      you should feel lucky man. same story here but "15 years later" so i didn't get to ride in my invincible 20's lol

  • @joshdobin1666
    @joshdobin1666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Hey Seth,
    My family and I recently got into the sport due to our oldest daughter having been diagnosed as pre-diabetic. Naturally, we started on big box bikes... Mine was definitely too small, I constantly felt like I was going otb. I stumbled across your videos while researching the common mods to make big box bikes tolerable and have found the flip bike and parts bin upgrade series' particularly inspirational. I found a Giant Pistol 2 (full squish circa 06) at my local used sporting goods store priced at $40, had an employee test ride it and it didn't shift so I scored it for just $15! I immediately returned my big box bike to order a new derailleur, hanger, shifter, chainring, chain, brake levers, stem, bars, spacers, pedals, grips, crank tool, top cap & star nut. I even pulled and greased all the bearings and IT TURNED OUT GREAT! So much so that my aforementioned oldest daughter asked why she still had to be on a big box bike and if I could build her one as well. 😅 I know I'll likely never stumble across another $15 full suspension Giant, but I was thinking the Northrock xc27 (mfg by giant) could make a quality, yet inexpensive platform on which to build her a good intermediate hard tale by adding a 1x drivetrain, air fork and hydraulic brakes.

  • @namsaying
    @namsaying 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    9:50 I've been a bike mechanic for a year and you just taught me how to more effectively use these guys so thank you. No more fiddling around trying to route the magnet end from the outside!

  • @Dylan_Draper
    @Dylan_Draper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +766

    This looks like a late 2000's Diamondback Recoil. My only hesitation in saying that's definitely what it is, is the added gusset on the seat tube. But that may just be present in large and up size frames.

    • @theBody2233
      @theBody2233 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      In addition to the seat tube gusset, I also see differences in the shape/design of the rear dropout space, as well as the rear triangle's "seat tube", both where it connects to the shock and also to the frame.

    • @midwestshredin6978
      @midwestshredin6978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      The head tube is to long to be a diamondback recoil

    • @quiquekhan
      @quiquekhan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Looks like a recoil to me 2008 or 2009.

    • @bobohunter1776
      @bobohunter1776 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      It also might be an old yeti. Pretty much everything before 2005 looks exactly the same though so who knows.

    • @Dylan_Draper
      @Dylan_Draper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@bobohunter1776 yeah after looking up more pre 2010 bikes, the frames are all very similar.

  • @BenHaskell
    @BenHaskell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    Paint job on this one came out amazing, definitely shows what you can achieve at home with patience and a bit of prep!

    • @Leviathandk
      @Leviathandk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And a heated garage the size of a house... ;)

    • @Adroit1911
      @Adroit1911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A bit of prep? A damn full couple days worth of a bit of prep.

    • @BenHaskell
      @BenHaskell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Adroit1911 that's the patience bit 🤣

    • @Adroit1911
      @Adroit1911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BenHaskell oh I thought that was the watching the paint dry part. That's where I always mess up, every paint job I do has my fingerprint in it. Some might have gotten buffed away though. 🤔

  • @tonydejesus2134
    @tonydejesus2134 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This series, as well as other channels like comet restoration and old shovel, set a great example for a world where instead of repairing things, we tend to throw things out and buy new. I love watching these for tips.

  • @jakescaglione2256
    @jakescaglione2256 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Love your flip bike series! Doesn't get old no matter how many times I watch it!

  • @littlebitifeverything5957
    @littlebitifeverything5957 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Looks like a Santa Cruz Heckler. Awesome video! Keep them coming!

  • @ivan_domangaming9359
    @ivan_domangaming9359 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    You could use the old bike for the thumbnail, it's fun to watch the video until the end to see how the bike end up looking

    • @SethsBikeHacks
      @SethsBikeHacks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Good suggestion!

    • @dontspamkoth
      @dontspamkoth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Seconding this.

    • @IslanderJerYT
      @IslanderJerYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Actually a great suggestion. Upps the intrigue a little more!

  • @MsRotorwings
    @MsRotorwings ปีที่แล้ว

    Bike saver! Love witnessing the restoration process! I still have my 2002 Bianchi Boardwalk. Old bikes are awesome.

  • @ironman1518.
    @ironman1518. ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent re-build, thank you!!

  • @clintreed2064
    @clintreed2064 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Absolutely enjoyed the heck out of this video. From the commentary to the choice of background music... Just a really good video. Thanks for the hard work.

  • @landisdell8996
    @landisdell8996 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I love these! I learn a lot from each one. They’ve helped me rebuild my old hardtail and build a budget fatbike. They’re both way more than they started as and they’re now prized possessions. Keep it up!

    • @sepg5084
      @sepg5084 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This bike would have been better if he replaced the brakes with Shimano MT200: cheap and reliable.

  • @wendellladiana4441
    @wendellladiana4441 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ..im turning 49 this year..and still love to ride bikes especially on the trails because of you Seth..love your videos❤️👍😊😉

  • @poopaloopy818
    @poopaloopy818 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just saw this, amazing video man
    I love you're showing people your progress in flipping bikes and also teaching people how to come up with ways on how to make bikes in generally better without buying new parts

  • @oakleymaliska5359
    @oakleymaliska5359 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    These videos make my day 10x better.. Loving this series seth!

  • @JackPineSavagest
    @JackPineSavagest 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Sick, love the rebuilds!

  • @ManicTrailBanter
    @ManicTrailBanter ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am restoring a Marzocchi DJ Comp fork right now, and this video helped me confirm that it is a grease only fork based on the exact same internals as yours, as always, Thank you Seth for the information and the entertainment. I am hoping to visit NC in the future and have even been looking houses around Asheville and the surrounding area. Cheers!

  • @82lowe36id
    @82lowe36id ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Love your outlook on keeping budget limits in mind and making things work. That bike was a work of art at the end. Glad to see it come back to life!

  • @MrQuestful
    @MrQuestful 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    3:48 YES! I love that you got a spray “booth” and (even better) a n95 mask!

  • @LooseWheelFilms
    @LooseWheelFilms 2 ปีที่แล้ว +205

    Seth you should to timed runs with all the bike flip bikes on the same section of trail before and after to see what the upgrades do and compare the flipped ones to previous flips

    • @MarcusNesbitt4
      @MarcusNesbitt4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Seth wouldn't fit on half these bikes so I think it would be a bit unfair!

    • @dimitrisdehghani3917
      @dimitrisdehghani3917 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Most bikes don’t ride when they are new

    • @burnthotdog98media60
      @burnthotdog98media60 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes

    • @dwiesch
      @dwiesch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Kinda hard in this case, considering the tires and chain were completely busted. But in theory it could be an interesting addition to the format, I agree. Even if quite often it would be a DNF before.

    • @Fabonj
      @Fabonj 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Looks like someone wants to see Seth get killed 😆

  • @magnetwhisperer
    @magnetwhisperer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This has to be my favorite restoration! Graphite was absolutely the right choice. Nice job!

  • @LaughingRandomly
    @LaughingRandomly ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your passion for the bikes. When I was a teenager, we lived near a county dump, I'd pass by periodically on my bikes and pick up some decent bikes. I sanded and painted them though. I never sold a single one, gave some away and had a few to myself. It amazes me how people just discard nice things. Brings to mind the old saying "one man's trash is another man's treasure!"

  • @Bicifaidate
    @Bicifaidate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Great Job!

  • @iamchad1000
    @iamchad1000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Dude. I love these videos. 🤘 Thank you for this series. I have been “refreshing” old bikes for a while now. I would like to be able to turn a profit, but have not been able to figure that out. Either way, I will keep doing it cause it is so much dang fun. Watching your videos makes me feel validated in my efforts. Thanks for this series, it is my favorite.

  • @johnwong9733
    @johnwong9733 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always love watching yr restoration. I ended up restoring my 1996 Giant ATX840 last year. My 25year old bike is now almost brand new with all new parts. Next change is to upgrade the cable disc brakes to hydraulic brakes. Yahooooooo!

  • @TheDavidjakeson
    @TheDavidjakeson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is my favorite Flip Bike so far!!! It looks so good!

  • @WaRn00b85
    @WaRn00b85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Man, I really like this series! Epic restore man, looks like a real nice bike now!

  • @lukemalm9190
    @lukemalm9190 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really like this series. It has inspired me to buy a used bike for my son and restore it for his birthday.

  • @Hondarider35
    @Hondarider35 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this content. This was a great build and video. I plan on getting my first full suspension bike soon.

  • @Lumberjack-drummer
    @Lumberjack-drummer ปีที่แล้ว

    That looks fantastic! That's sweet!

  • @robtodd4726
    @robtodd4726 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Old school! It’s hard to overcome that geometry though. Love the restoration!

    • @plokmko0
      @plokmko0 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      29/27.5 fork and 27.5 wheelset

    • @robtodd4726
      @robtodd4726 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@plokmko0 ?

    • @flippy66
      @flippy66 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@plokmko0 It's a 26" frame, so no.

  • @manuabecassis
    @manuabecassis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    IT is a PELL's RIDELIGHT Elite or Pells Thor FS150 Elite from 2009 it was a 1500 up to 4000 USD MTB. Frame is 100% same but components are differents.

    • @mosslager
      @mosslager 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I think you nailed it...exact same rear triangle. Slight difference on the seat tube gusset and front triangle top tube/down tube gusset but that could be size specific. Finally...this has been driving me nuts.

    • @manuabecassis
      @manuabecassis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mosslager thanks :) Yes the frame Is definitely the right one. It was an expensive bike for the time :)

    • @mattlasecki5237
      @mattlasecki5237 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How did you figure it out?!

    • @cup_and_cone
      @cup_and_cone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup, you nailed it. I guess you're Czech? Don't believe Pells were ever sold in America. Most have been bought off eBay or somewhere online.

    • @thomasbrace2166
      @thomasbrace2166 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nailed it!

  • @MBdrummer3288
    @MBdrummer3288 ปีที่แล้ว

    That paint job turned out fantastic!

  • @kzalaska4804
    @kzalaska4804 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you- I have been looking for a solution for spraying in my small shop, I had no idea there were pop up spray tents. Came for the bike entertainment, left with much more.

  • @harpera5925
    @harpera5925 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    always a good day when seth uploads another flip bike

  • @purpleRider05
    @purpleRider05 2 ปีที่แล้ว +282

    It definitely looks like it could be an older diamondback atroz especially with that rear triangle design

    • @SethsBikeHacks
      @SethsBikeHacks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +147

      The Atroz looks very similar, but the lower section of the rear triangle (near the pivot) is plated over on the Atroz. From that era there was also no internal routing through the chainstay.

    • @purpleRider05
      @purpleRider05 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@SethsBikeHacks its really bugging me i cant figoure out what bike it is now 🤣

    • @itaymazor9335
      @itaymazor9335 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I think it’s a Jamis can’t call the model out but looks like one

    • @jonahfastre
      @jonahfastre 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I thing GT had a similar bike back than, but idk to be honest

    • @purpleRider05
      @purpleRider05 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@itaymazor9335 in all honesty just about every full suspension from around 2010 looks pretty much the same

  • @tommycocacocke
    @tommycocacocke 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad there is biking videos here again!!!

  • @chrisbfleetwood
    @chrisbfleetwood 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are the Bike Flip g.o.a.t., my friend. This one is one of your best!

  • @carrum6205
    @carrum6205 2 ปีที่แล้ว +401

    It’s looks like an old mongoose. The rear swing arm design looks extremely similar to the older mongoose models.

    • @corradovanaken3553
      @corradovanaken3553 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Imagine paying $325 for a mongoose in that condition 😂

    • @Madmehican
      @Madmehican 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@corradovanaken3553 mongoose used to have some bikes that were high end here in the states. I think they still sell good quality bikes in other countries but we get the trash Wal Mart stuff for some reason.

    • @Willysworkshop
      @Willysworkshop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Mongoose used to have high end bikes I have one

    • @carrum6205
      @carrum6205 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@Willysworkshop they still do! I’ve been contemplating getting their DH bike it’s a very good deal

    • @Losovox
      @Losovox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Madmehican in Australia it's really only their BMXes that r good

  • @bjrn-oskarrnning2740
    @bjrn-oskarrnning2740 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I really don't think you should stress about selling it. Leaving the sale for the next episode is a good hook and it's much more satisfying to see the bikes sell for a decent price.

  • @oheso
    @oheso 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Sweat equity" ... love it! Perfect description.

  • @laghlandeyo4680
    @laghlandeyo4680 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful! What a sweet ride.

  • @mavericksolea
    @mavericksolea 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Those other bikes can be some nice flips. That DK tracer is still worth a couple hundred. And that hardtail, turn that into a rad little dirt jumper. This was a nice rebuild on that full suspension.

  • @Rygar91
    @Rygar91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Absolutely love the geometry of this bike. Whoever made this bike must have literally made this frame one single year and then never again. That rear triangle swingarm shape is so unique, cant find it anywhere!

    • @andrewredding3132
      @andrewredding3132 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Diamondback recoil. And yea it was a bad design mines rear swingarm snapped on both pivot points on the right side when I bunny hopped off a 2ft hill and I was only like 145lbs

  • @ericacaldeo2162
    @ericacaldeo2162 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful restoration

  • @tomcruz3774
    @tomcruz3774 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    God damn that bike is so sick. Awesome work

  • @wolfoffroad
    @wolfoffroad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Greetings from Australia. Love the series. My 10 yr old is fkn obsessed with it. We are currently rebuilding his new 2nd had 24" Giant MTX. It'll be the only 24" Ive seen with a true 1x on it. haha.
    Kudos man. We salute you.

  • @mtb_chase8210
    @mtb_chase8210 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes another flip bike video we want more of these

  • @tonya9614
    @tonya9614 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done sir! I like what your doing!

  • @amandaburger3312
    @amandaburger3312 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great restoration

  • @izzaelofficial6103
    @izzaelofficial6103 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    The feeling of watching a bike gets restored is unexplainable!

    • @mcndjxlefnd
      @mcndjxlefnd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Try restoring one - even better! I never knew I could fall in love with a machine.

  • @robinrai4973
    @robinrai4973 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    A Suntour damper in a Marzocchi fork?! That's certainly interesting

    • @chadb2077
      @chadb2077 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Suntour made/makes the dampers for a lot of brands, i heard even Öhlins uses suntour made dampers

    • @SethsBikeHacks
      @SethsBikeHacks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It’s surprising how much stuff Suntour actually makes. At the time they may have sold dampers to Marzocchi.

    • @margi9n3
      @margi9n3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Suntour actually bought Marzocchi in August of 2008 (then sold it in 2015 to Fox), so thats why it has a Suntour Damper

    • @nigelbrownwellington6514
      @nigelbrownwellington6514 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Suntour makes stuff for almost everyone. Similar to Sunrace in the drivetrain world eh, Seth?

    • @cup_and_cone
      @cup_and_cone 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Suntour OEMs for a lot of brands, including Rock Shox and DVO.

  • @slimkdnvr
    @slimkdnvr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mad respect. not everything has to be new and the best tech to ride. Not everybody is pushing the limits of their components. Some kid will be stoked.

  • @ErichVonCartmann
    @ErichVonCartmann ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well Done again! Loving this "bike restore" series. You are a good man Seth for bringing all these bikes back to life, and then you turning around and selling them for quite a bargain. You are pillar for the biking community. The work you do on these bikes is very thorough and complete. I know of no bike shop as thorough and complete as the work you have done in all your bike restore videos. For some of the work you have put in, the local bike shop will charge at least $500 per bike for just the Labor Alone. Heck even a basic tuneup with really no work involved will be charge $100 these days for just the labor alone. A Bike Build where a shop builds up a brand new frame and uses brand new parts will be at least $250 these days; and the work you do is about 5 times more effort than that!

  • @timmlpsk
    @timmlpsk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +185

    Looks like my Rockrider back in the day. But I think many brands used this same mold for their cheap full suspension bike.
    Also they kinda ride like shit because of the single pivot and the chaingrowth. Mine had a really good air shock back in the day and was feeling like a pogo stick, no matter what the shock was set to. :D

    • @antrace92
      @antrace92 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think it's the same frame. They're very popular in my country

    • @Metal-Possum
      @Metal-Possum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Single pivots are the best. The only time I notice chain growth on my heckler is in the granny ring, when I want it to stand up straight anyway.

    • @timmlpsk
      @timmlpsk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Metal-Possum Yeah expensive singlepivots are good. The orange bikes are also loved by many. But these cheap single pivots just dont feel refined

    • @Metal-Possum
      @Metal-Possum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@timmlpsk Refined? Mine was "Refined" when it was brand new in 1996... It flexes a little, but that doesn't bother me. With its Super Deluxe coil shock it just behaves like a champion. Pivot placement is obviously key, if you're running a triple like I am, then in line with the top of the middle ring for a neutral feeling on the trails. I even commute on it occasionally and it's just as fast as my commuter bike.

    • @bobikbobikowy5458
      @bobikbobikowy5458 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are right that single pivot feels kinda like pogo stick but i cant agree they ride like shit. It depends what you expect. They are very sensitive, even on small bumps and nothing can beat it. I got some old rusty frame with super old rock shox sid for 20$, restored it and that thing is sooooooo smooth. Riding downhill in the forrest feels almost like asphalt road :D

  • @Eric.Estrada
    @Eric.Estrada 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Let me tell you... This flip bike series has me buying up old bikes and flipping them. I flipped my way up to a brand new bike for the wife, started off with a $150 bike, sold it for $400, bought a full suspension GT for $200, flipped it for $550, bought her a brand new $900 bike for $600 on offerup, swapped out a bunch of parts with quality parts from the parts bin and shes in a $1200 or so rig right now from my initial $150 investment.

    • @stewartobrien6297
      @stewartobrien6297 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve been doing the same for years and just recently one of my local bike shops liked what I was doing and offered me a job. Now I have all mod cons at my disposal after hours and can flip bikes a little easier.
      Keep up the passion mate.

  • @bonham4994sts9
    @bonham4994sts9 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seth you're so good at restoring these old bikes, great job 🤘

  • @lambertj.2892
    @lambertj.2892 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job!! Sweet ride.

  • @scottweber3077
    @scottweber3077 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    the full squish appears to be a 98 Santa Cruz Heckler

    • @Beanz2k7
      @Beanz2k7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It looks more like a heckler version 5 because they switched to a more square linkage with the version 5

    • @maxpayne2323
      @maxpayne2323 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Looks more like a Decathlon bike. Rockrider

    • @montgomeryben1988
      @montgomeryben1988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the 98 Heckler had a different connection at the seat post and would have mounts for v brakes. NO WAY it's a 98, maybe a newer version?

    • @montgomeryben1988
      @montgomeryben1988 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      cant be a heckler at all, they all had brackets external for cable routing. video shows clearly this bike never had those. internal cable routing through rear triangle.

    • @MarcusNesbitt4
      @MarcusNesbitt4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its not a 98 Heckler, and I dont think its a v5 heckler either - the rear triangle looks different.

  • @ajwitt7472
    @ajwitt7472 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Love this. It's not just about the $$$ profit, you've reduced the need for a brand new bike by 1, and all that entails in terms of aluminum production, assembly, and transport. Cycling needs to be more sustainable and restoring bikes this way is a big part of that.

  • @kingdomculture5743
    @kingdomculture5743 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really enjoyed this build! Great vid!

  • @andreiprudencio
    @andreiprudencio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I freaking love this series!

  • @valueofadventure
    @valueofadventure 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Crazy restoration! I would have just sprayed some WD-40 everywhere that looked old and been done with it 😂 Great job!

    • @jamina792
      @jamina792 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      WD-40 is not good for bikes. If you get it on the rotors they will be ruined. It's not a lubricant, it's designed for water displacement (that's what WD stands for)

  • @christianburrell5564
    @christianburrell5564 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There is REAL value in amateur mech’s getting a chance to do all this kind of work on a bike, where if you screw up, it’s not the end of the world. But seriously Seth - can you do a video on painting bikes? Who are you using?

  • @harindergill7221
    @harindergill7221 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really love what you do, keep up the good work

  • @Alex_Friends_Family
    @Alex_Friends_Family 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are a Super hero on this channel 👍

  • @Bozza36
    @Bozza36 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love this series Seth. It would be cool if you start purchasing some high-end vintage bikes that were neglected and restore them to their former glory.

  • @paodepota8373
    @paodepota8373 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    What happened to the other bikes Seth? I need the story of all of them, especially the BMX one because it looked good.

    • @eatmysalt291
      @eatmysalt291 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s what I’m saying!!! That Subrosa is worth at least a couple hundred.

  • @JamesMTBAdventures
    @JamesMTBAdventures 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The finish on that bike looks really nice👌

  • @trailladymtb7700
    @trailladymtb7700 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seth, you are a genius! wow!

  • @patricktallon2803
    @patricktallon2803 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I'm hooked on this story. I had a small fleet of Rocky Mountain bikes going back to late 2000s and I think this is a late 2000s Rocky Mountain prototype! Rocky Mountain was handmade in Canada at the time and experimented with rear linkages quite a bit. The square tube was used on their thrust-link design for downhill bikes like the RM7 around the same time, but I can't recall if it had internal cable routing. I think this might have been an attempt to lighten the design for XC use.
    Also, the stem cap and handlebars are "RMB" - I believe this is the Rock Mountain house brand for generic parts, which they used extensively in mid-2000s too. Not to mention tru-vative stem and WTB wheels were staples for them at the time too.
    Seth mentions they used nice parts across the bike; a prototype engineer would have had the means to access these parts for a frankenbike like this.
    And yes: the wheelsmfg #49 hanger crosses to Rocky Mountain #7 ;)
    Seth, we need a follow-up video on this one!!!

    • @fedipoiana
      @fedipoiana 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Damn, Seth should be pinning this

    • @SethsBikeHacks
      @SethsBikeHacks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      We looked into Rocky but didn’t find anything that looked like this. Maybe it was custom?! The serial number starts with BC, could that be a clue?

    • @patricktallon2803
      @patricktallon2803 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@SethsBikeHacks That's too much of a coincidence to not look in to further! I think their production bikes all start with PR. They've done some high-profile prototype builds in the past... I'd drop them an email and see if it's theirs?
      Curious to know too... do you think the paint was original? Spray paint? Any evidence of decals?

    • @ap11031103
      @ap11031103 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@SethsBikeHacks it's a Rockrider Btwin 6.3... Look them up. Frame is exactly like this one..

    • @harrygillman213
      @harrygillman213 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      EDIT, Pell ridelight, somone in the comments got it

  • @DodgyFPV
    @DodgyFPV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Not sure, but is it possible to replace the rear triangle, and combine 2 different frames? or is it how it came from factory? The forks could also have been a second purchase somewhere in it's 12 or so year life.

  • @destinhook3826
    @destinhook3826 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is awesome to watch!

  • @robinrai4973
    @robinrai4973 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What a strange bike, mechanical brakes paired with a Chris King headset?? Also I recognise those rims, my old 2008 Cannondale hardtail had those! A very strange mishmash of parts!

    • @SethsBikeHacks
      @SethsBikeHacks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It seems to have had a storied history for sure

    • @calimeropierro
      @calimeropierro 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We should ask Gordon Freeman, he must know.

  • @jacksnyder9399
    @jacksnyder9399 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Really enjoying the Flip Bike Series Seth. One suggestion I have is wearing appropriate respiratory protection while spraying paint. Paint vapor/fumes are really harmful and I don't think anybody wants to see you get sick making these videos.

  • @RobertoMettifogo
    @RobertoMettifogo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice work !
    Bike restoring can be a nice hobby

  • @M-ANTONY-888
    @M-ANTONY-888 ปีที่แล้ว

    1st time ive seen your show, bloody good. I even like that 'spray tent' great for size bike-packing.

  • @bikerveteran3402
    @bikerveteran3402 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    me encanta tu trabajo, ok, enhorabuena

  • @KoltFin
    @KoltFin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The swing arm looks extremely similar to a iron horse but the frame looks like a diamondback

  • @lonelymtbrider3369
    @lonelymtbrider3369 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes! Finally another episode! Keep em coming!!

  • @millwrightdad3753
    @millwrightdad3753 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a great video! God I wish my Mt bike was never stolen, even a bike like this would get me riding with my friends again. Such a beautiful job

  • @MaximinoTalamantes
    @MaximinoTalamantes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    looks so close to the 06-07 santa cruz heckler my brother had. could be a 07 cannondale rush or gary fisher procaliber 07 as well.

  • @deusexaethera
    @deusexaethera ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your spraypaint coats are too thick. There's lumpy buildup in some spots. Thin coats, barely thick enough to be opaque, are mandatory when spraypainting unless it's supposed to be a textured paint like "hammer finish" or "truck bedliner".
    Good to know about the Park magnetic cable fishing tool. I really could've used that back in 1998. I had to drop a piece of weighted thread through my swingarm and carefully tilt the swingarm until the thread dropped through the exit hole. Took me a good 30 minutes.

  • @TheoreticalCyclist
    @TheoreticalCyclist 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty nice restoration/build (as always)!

  • @TimMillernapavalleyfilmworks
    @TimMillernapavalleyfilmworks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job 🏁

  • @adammoonface
    @adammoonface 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My best guess is that it was a "big box" bike from a store like walmart or something and the kid that owned it raided his Dad's parts bin for "upgrades". There were so many single pivot frames like this that were stickered up as random brands like Reebok and Mongoose.

  • @isaacsmtbvlog9049
    @isaacsmtbvlog9049 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hey Seth I love all your videos and I know you hear this all the time but I am your biggest fan

  • @user-qx1vh8xk6b
    @user-qx1vh8xk6b 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sweet looking bike😊

  • @alpham777
    @alpham777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like a Berm Peak special to me which makes it priceless knowing the shenanigans involved. If I had saw this I would have bought it.

  • @jonbrown9490
    @jonbrown9490 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I've seen a couple older santa cruz bikes that look really similar to that frame. One was a heckler and the other was a blur. If I were to really try to guess at it I'd say it looks like a blur frame that someone rebuilt and added more aggressive parts to at some point around 09-10.

    • @michaeldouglasmason
      @michaeldouglasmason 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think you're right. 2003 superlight maybe?

    • @jonbrown9490
      @jonbrown9490 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaeldouglasmason could be. It did sound like there was a serial at indicated it might be an '06. But, it does sound like it's got parts from multiple years on it.

    • @AstronomyWales
      @AstronomyWales 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The blur used VPP so definitely can't be that. The early hecklers looked very similar, but hecklers from this time frame look vastly different.

    • @jonbrown9490
      @jonbrown9490 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaeldouglasmason Afte doing some more research, I think you're right. The closest bike I could find is an '03-'06 superlight. The rear triangle looks a little too beefy on this bike and the pivot point seems a little too far forward, but it's very similar. The only other bike I found that looked similar was an '06ish Haro.

  • @leoross8088
    @leoross8088 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I found that the Santa Cruz Superlight model from that time period looked very similar, at least judging by the frame. Components do not match as well though, but maybe the bike you flipped was already upgraded. Anyway sick build as i expected!

    • @BYin541
      @BYin541 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or any early Santa Cruz Heckler!

    • @snappedspine3980
      @snappedspine3980 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Another vote for an early Santa Cruz. Rear triangle and dropout design are spot on.

    • @leoross8088
      @leoross8088 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BYin541 true it looks even more accurate!

  • @Ass_Burgers_Syndrome
    @Ass_Burgers_Syndrome ปีที่แล้ว

    I love watching these videos. I don't have the patience to do fancy upgrades lol. I still ride around on my '94 Marin Palisades Trail and '93 Nishiki Backroads.

  • @4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse
    @4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse ปีที่แล้ว

    Sweet bike, nice job!

  • @boxz2498
    @boxz2498 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    it could be an Orange? it just looks like there kinda styling and has the single pivot suspension, also the always stock high end fox rear shoxs on their bikes. Back in the day this will have been a high end shock. Just a thought.

    • @SethsBikeHacks
      @SethsBikeHacks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I’ve ruled out all Orange bikes due to the derailleur hanger, and also design differences in the rear triangle, but the linkage does look very similar!

    • @stephenkimesdicul7976
      @stephenkimesdicul7976 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It could be a 06 santa cruz superlight or 05?

    • @tsargiske488
      @tsargiske488 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stephenkimesdicul7976 or a heckler

    • @stephenkimesdicul7976
      @stephenkimesdicul7976 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tsargiske488 maybe. it has the same geometry

    • @superspecky4eyes
      @superspecky4eyes 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not an Orange, they use folded aluminium sheets to make the majority of their frames rather than premade tubing. Although linkage wise it's not a million miles away