Learn more about fiber myths: www.nutritionwithjudy.com/seven-fiber-myths. Read more about Meat and climate change, seed oils and beyond meat: www.nutritionwithjudy.com/category/articles/page/11 (scroll down to row 3) Bill Gates sells off plant-based foods: stockcircle.com/portfolio/bill-gates/bynd/transactions
Hi Judy ❤, Could you please do an episode on hypothyroidism in relationship to people with MTHFR mutations? Is there a suitable diet for us? Is the carnivore diet suitable, or a modified one? I've had signs of hypothyroid such as thin and loss of outer one third of the eyebrows and hairloss. Which only reared its head from young adult years.
I highly recommend subscribing to Zoë's website and weekly emails! She's awesome at dissecting 'so-called' scientific papers. She'd been one of the greatest teachers in my journey - and funny too!
I’m a subscriber to Dr. Harcombe’s weekly newsletter. It’s very instructive to watch her skewer each study. It isn’t superficial at all; she usually does the statistical calculations on the raw data (when she can get her hands on them). When the authors have played fast and loose with their ‘modeling’, Zoe will catch them out.
Agreed! To get informed on current affairs, I suggest Trinity Vandenacre; Yanasa TV; The Shepherdess. All amazing channels unpacking food security, local ranchers, water rights, land expropriation, so much more.
Fantastic conversation! I’d heard of Zoë from Tim Naokes’s book, where I learned of her early support for him and his work when he started advocating for a high fat low carb diet. The nutrition content was very informative, and the portion on the bogus “green” agenda was refreshingly candid and well reasoned.
So inspired by this podcast and the much needed truth being told to the masses! Once you can see what is and has been happening in relation to big food, big pharma and many others you can’t unsee it. Look out for you and your family because they are not looking out for you, only your wallet! Blessing to you both. ❤️🙏
8:15 It's funny, I used to feel that all the time, eventually I'd get sick and tired of eating the same food, then I switched to carnivore 2 years ago and I literally NEVER get sick of eating beef. I could eat beef every day for the next 80 years and die happy of old age.
This is just my own anecdote but I’ve been eating mostly animal based/ketovore for the past 4 years or so. It has helped my autoimmune symptoms tremendously. However, on my colonoscopy last week, I had several polyps, 2 quite large. My last one was 5 years ago and only had one small polyp. I wonder if plants/fiber might play a role in helping detox excess hormones in the gut. I’m perimenopausal, age 48. Since the colonoscopy, I’ve added more seasonal veggies and low glycemic fruits back in, and have found my gut motility to be greatly improved and overall just feel better. I know meat is not the cause of my polyps, but I feel like perhaps meat is meant to “nourish” and plants are meant as medicine, to “ detox”? And in today’s environment, I think we’re bombarded with a lot of environmental toxins and perhaps our bodies need a little help getting rid of those things?
it sounds like a reasonable arguments, even though if those veggies and berries are not organic then you are likely going to be putting some toxins in your body. I'm not sure about the theory of making things move more (more bowel movements) to help detoxify the body, but if you feel better with that I don't think there is a problem. The interesting part is that you can accelerate or cause more bowel movements using a high dose of vitamin C, magnesium citrate or enough fat. I do think that large quantities of protein in isolation without the fat to move things through the intestine may cause some problem (I don't have any evidence for this, just a guessing). In my case, it seems like some fibers makes my digestion a little heavier and slower (still trying to figure out which ones and why), but some like mushrooms and fruits like zucchini seem to not bother me Edit: I forgot to mention that I do think also that herbs and plants have medicinal properties; the use of EGCG from green tea is pretty convincent for me in the use of cancer
I’ve heard that plant fiber is what causes the polyps but who knows. Also, I had some polyps the last two times. I’ve only been on carnivore for six months but will be going back to check again with polyps. It’s been three years since last checked. I’ll see if there are any big changes.
@@sthnguyen yeah, I've also heard that different fibers can cause all types of problems, for sure they are not equal, some years ago I could eat high amounts of fiber from avocados and other things like dark chocolate, but hey, when I ate oatmeal, peanut butter or beans... It was the hell haha. Good luck with the new check, I hope it's gotten better!
All you really need is donuts. The problem people run into is that they don't properly balance the different types. You need chocolate, powdered, sprinkles, plain, glazed, and jelly filled. If you concentrate on only one kind, you are sure to have a deficiency. If necessary, you can supplement with Doritos. And be sure to keep yourself hydrated with a large Mountain Dew or a Coke.
I'm an ag economist (Ph.D.) by training and not vegetarian, but these women do not really know anything about production (especially meat) agriculture. There's a huge amount of environmental damage caused by meat production, as a result of all the off farm inputs, transportation and processing. Just the cold-chain alone takes a huge amount energy, which is fuelled by fossil energy. Increasing meat production means increasing the arable land and large acale "regenerative agriculture" is a myth. Sadly, the Amazon forest has diminished for cattle grazing and this woman by her own admission "hasn't done the research." The land use is largely driven by market incentives and not how "regenerative" animal on a plot of land may be.The guest is equally deslusional when it comes to renewable energy. With regards to energy, just a few years Germany now produces almost 60% of its energy from renewables, spawned by the Ukraine war. If you like to eat meat, just say that. Do not propagate myths, especially about things you don't know about. Bill Gates can afford all the steak he wants!! He doesn't need land for that.
Can you provide the data that supports your claims? I know Zoë's book is filled with references. She isn't talking about things she didn't research. If she's wrong, I'd like to read about it.
@@fabioriato TH-cam does not allow links to be posted. Look for an interesting piece on NPR with title, Can eating less beef and dairy help save the Colorado River? Using same keywords and author Erin Stone you should be able to find article. 30 years ago, when I was a Ph.D. student, this (diverting huge amounts of water from the Colorado River) was a concern. Today, some of my former classmates work as animal industry executives and are focused on making meat production more efficient using less land, water and feed. It is a difficult task and one that is likely unsustainable, as explained in this article.
This is a well formatted primer. I've been watching y'all for years. Dr harcombe many of us drive hours each day. I listened to Dr Cho the carnivore cure. I listen to her the podcast on audible too. I listen to the presentations on TH-cam. I'll look into the Kindle app reader. You have an outstanding voice for the American outlet. Understandable accent with a delightful timbre should you decide to record your books they'll sell. Truck drivers kinda have to go low carb because it gets unsustainable to rollercoaster blood sugar. Also having more predictable bowel movements and in my case fixing the prostate so I don't have urgency for urination
They 'sterilize' the land, eliminating bacteria/insects...life. Then they 'chemicalize' it, polluting the land surrounding it. Then they use big polluting machines to plant and pick it, or illegal aliens. Then they pollute with fuels to ship it where they use plastic pollution to package, print and create stuff soon for the landfill...and phthalates for your brain. And, every bit of it is poison, supporting the drug dealing, lying doctors. And that is just the tip of the iceberg of wasted resources, economy...and life.
@@devdroid9606 We really need the movement for regenerative agriculture to grow. I buy local grassfed as much as I can. Corn is not natural food for cows and they shouldn't be eating it. Regenerative agriculture restores the land, monocrops destroy it (and all the creatures living in it) - the quality of the world's topsoils is decling at a frightening rate, because of these crops.
@@devdroid9606 Cattle uses rain water, no catchments/dams/rivers are drained. Also, they don't need to be grain fed. Cattle rejuvenated soils, monocrops destroy.
Mild note. Dr Cho, I was just listening to another interview then you came on. I wasn't watching and I first heard a topic I was expecting like Lili Kane. Then I was like Bella. Took me a full minute to decipher you. Yes your voice is distinctive. However you have help spreading your message. Your guest is royalty. I've been listening to you both for years. I'd started listening to your podcast on audible more than on TH-cam because I drive a lot. You consistently explain to expand my mind.
Yes, but only feed lots / grain fed cattle. No ruminants are designed to eat GMO wheat, they need grass. As Zoe says, REAL regenerative farming is what we need to be doing.
Interesting discussion. I went strict lion diet for 3 months to alleviate my ulcerative colitis flare. I found that as an active 6'4" 215lb male, eating enough became a challenge. I was eating 3 lbs of fatty steak per day plus additional tallow throughout the day. Something that occurred to me was that in a traditional hunter gatherer sense this way of eating wouldn't make sense. I hunt elk every year and the amount of fat that comes off any wild game is incredibly minimal. It would be impossible to get enough calories by only eating meat that you hunt. I have since switched to a diet that emphasizes variety of plants while still including a variety of animal foods. While you stated that fiber is not beneficial to health I do think you can find a multitude of other doctors saying that the evidence is overwhelming that increased fiber increases SCFAs and gut microbe diversity. It seems to me that the most natural way to eat would be to eat as many plants as possible and include meat that is consistent with how animals are in their natural state. To me that would be any meat that has fat levels in proportion to the entire animal eating an appropriate diet, aka lean.
I would like to know more. 3 lbs of fatty red meat is likely more than 3500 kcals. That seems a good amount plus tallow for your size unless you are very active. Are you eating one meal a day or spreading it out. I would recommend 2 to three meals, it is not challenging at all at that point. Keep in mind that our ancestors specifically went after the largest animals they could find and likely ate every bit of it and also crushed the bones and skull for rich fat stores. Short chain fatty acids can be used by your gut lining but it is by no means a requirement. A diverse microbiome is achieved by literally any whole food diet. Plant materials are not required. Also no one knows what that diversity actually means or how it is good. There's really very little actual science around this.
@@OGPedXing I would generally eat three meals of one pound steaks each with tallow as a snack. I felt pretty good doing this and my UC disappeared. I am very active though and found it hard to maintain weight and felt sluggish in the gym. One of my main issues was that i could feel myself becoming more and more sensitive to food. All of the sudden I developed a histamine intolerance where ground beef that was old or leftover stew meat was causing me issues. I started to ask myself. "is someone that can only tolerate fresh meat really the picture of health?" I think that humans have evolved to eat plants when meat isn't available and that we benefit from them. I agree that the diversity argument is assuming something is beneficial when we don't know that it is.
Look into Dr. Sean Omara he addresses this with the use of fermented vegetables. Working out the way you do and introducing carbs will lead to insulin resistance and you will build up visceral fat no matter how you look on the outside. Having bulging (inflamed) muscles isn’t always the picture of health
She literally says at the end the studies didn't include women, it amazes me how nutrition professionals preach yo women about studies only done on men. In my mid 20s i lost my period for 6 years and lost fertility for giving up all carbs and it wasn't until I incorporated fiber and organic vegetables that I got it back and was able to get pregnant. Premenopausal women need organic vegetables
Crispy sliced potatoes with my ribeye or a hunk of whole grain sourdough This the paradise out of reach to old ladies who must be on lowcarb or blow up HUGE just smelling tubers or fruit
Where can I find the paper from institute of medicine that says humans don't need carbohydrates? I know dr berry quotes this paper. And I think dr westman also refferances this paper also.
Ppl go veghead due to desperation Unless they’re 11 and indoctrinated “it’s mean” Planet health, while upheld as noble, is rarely the foundation. “It’s mean” PLUS it’s better for the planet/humanity. Illness will push a person Finances will push a person/family Veganism is how cultures survived thru centuries of hunger but those hard times produced degenerating ppl. It took quite a number of generations to get to thriving ppls again and then we stacked it back down to medieval times with unneeded veghead-ness. Yes even finances being the reason for it is becuz of greed, not true need.
My only problem with this train of thought is to question whether eating plants really created a degenerated people. In general those populations have had good health and longevity. I think that the degenerated population I see today isn’t due to eating plants but rather hyper palatable processed foods filled with chemicals and artificial additives. I’m completely on board with eating animal foods as a keystone of your diet but I wonder if we are missing the mark by blaming whole plant foods for the issues that have come with our modern diet
I went on a 3 month carnivore diet of mainly lamb and beef. My knee pain of 41 years went completely away, joint pains all gone, reflux gone. But my LDL shot up to 12.9 mmol/L! Scary! I added back a small amount of vegetables...and every pain came back in 2 days! I follow Dave Feldman and Nick Norwitz. Now I'm adding back a small amount of rice and hopefully can bring down LDL to a more acceptable level 😢
If you follow Nick and Dave you know whether or not a high LDL is scary or not. If eating the proper human diet increases LDL, where is the evidence, other than allopathic propaganda, that it's a bad thing?
LDL terror reflects old medical practice and protocols! LDL will likely increase with carnivore diet but Triglycerides, HDL (and the Triglycerides/HDL ratio), as well as fasting insulin are much more valuable biomarkers of metabolic health. DO NOT ACCEPT a prescription for statins based on an elevated LDL if all the other health biomarkers are favorable! Our medical providers need to catch up with the research and be willing to move past outdated science that may have been relevant 30 years ago. (And we now know that much of the nutrition guidance for the past 50 years has been based on fraudulent, flawed, weak and heavily biased research.) We did it with cigarettes and have saved millions of lives. Now it’s time to do it with nutrition.
Well in defense No diet ever says 5 fruit It says 5 fruit or veggies No one eats veggies so they don’t just eat 1-2 pieces fruit (as would be reasonable), they eat 5 fruit cuz it’s eating candy each one! I wish they would break down produce into 4vegs & 1fruit a day. Raw fruit only and 1 raw veg daily. And put starchy veggies in with grain! This alone would help so much. Then again, kids in the US don’t eat fruit anymore either, not just don’t eat veggies besides potatoes. They haven’t eaten beans in decades besides rarely in chili or tacos. Most cooks make these even with little to no beans. Even during our veghead stage, my family ate no more than 1 pc fruit daily. Ok, maybe 2 if they had already had the crudités always available & were still famished due to athletics or hard labor tasks. We were lowfat so my kids did get hungry 😫 I had a big gap btwn sets of kids (15 yrs) and the younger set was raised quite diff in eating. Fatty, lowcarb & meaty. Also cod liver oil w/centrifuged butter oil, Lugol’s iodine & mag as mainstays. I’ve been studying nutrition for 45-50 yrs (started in my childhood!)
Thank you for sharing some interesting points. I'd like to bring forward the point about how our digestive systems differ from those of ruminants as I feel helps make my point easier to understand. Ruminants like cows, have multi-chambered stomachs adapted to fibrous plants, our single-chambered stomachs process food differently. This impacts how we handle certain vegetables. The presence of anti-nutrients like oxalates, phytates, and lectins in vegetables such as broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower, and Brussels sprouts are valid considerations in nutrition science, especially as these compounds can potentially interfere with mineral absorption. Furthermore, fibrous vegetables can require a lot of energy, sometimes more than the calories they provide. I'll acknowledge that cooking methods can often mitigate some of these issues, breaking down tough fibers and reducing anti-nutrient content. Additionally, many nutritionists argue that the benefits of these vegetables, including their vitamin, mineral, and phytochemical content, often outweigh the potential downsides for most people. I think they're generally recommended for a few reasons: a) they're low in calories, so low in fat and carbs, which makes them fit well in most diets; b) they can replace processed foods; c) they add bulk; and d) they add variety. While vegetables are often considered safe and beneficial for everyone by professionals, it's important to note that they're not a one-size-fits-all solution. Their nutritional benefits can vary depending on individual factors, and excessive consumption may even lead to negative consequences. This is why many children instinctively dismiss vegetables - they're onto something. It's essential to consider the potential drawbacks, such as the presence of anti-nutrients and the energy required for digestion, when incorporating large quantities of vegetables into our diets. Although in terms of fruits, I'd also include light green leaves and seasonal salad vegetables as better options for us. They're more easily digestible and calorie-efficient. These foods often contain simpler sugars and a more optimal ratio of soluble fiber, which can make them easier on the digestive system for many people. Regarding starchy vegetables, you've reiterated an important point about their nutritional value compared to refined grains. While they may have a higher glycemic index, their additional nutrient content can make them a valuable part of many diets. I'm not against properly prepared starches, preferably resistant starches and maybe root vegetables, as they have some good prebiotic properties. The declining consumption of fruits, vegetables, and beans among children in the U.S. is indeed a concern, mostly due to changes in food availability, marketing, and cultural eating patterns. Most kids have corn, ketchup, fries, pickles, juices, and baked beans instead of unprocessed whole forms.
I just asked numerous sources (AI, etc.), 'Is the Mediterranean diet heavy on meat.' I got a resounding, 'No'. Here's an excerpt of one of the answers: Meat consumption: The Mediterranean diet emphasizes plant-based foods, and red meat is eaten infrequently and in small amounts. Meat alternatives: Fish, poultry, and plant-based proteins can replace red meat. Meat portion size: If you do eat red meat, aim for a single 3-ounce serving per week.
It's been a long time since I spent time in the region, but there was always meat (pork or lamb, usually) or fish in the meals I had, and it was delicious. There's a lot of land there that isn't good for anything except grazing animals.
Hi anybody I have AFIB I want to go Carnivore but I need potassium from vegetables and fruits it made me too skinny eating too much chicken. Red meat gives me energy but I get constipated thx
@@leemanwrong meat contains ample potassium and sizeable quantities of butter or ghee fixes constipation my own health is proof of that, I am in mid 70's
But don't you think obesity is caused by dieting. Skinny fashion and bmi came out just before obesity took off. They've convinced women they're overweight no matter how thin they are. Then what do they do, cut calories. When you cut calories, you gain weight. It's as simple as that. There are actually more diabetic normal weight people than diabetic fat people. Don't you think diabetes could be caused by vegetable oil? 51:13
I love almost everything about Zoë. She is debunking the ridiculous plant-based narrative we've all been force fed since the 50s. However, her view of the energy transition is narrow minded. We do not know whether humans are warming the planet by keeping CO2 emissions high, but there's a fair chance that we are. The point should be that renewable energy doesn't need to be unreliable - when done correctly, using appropriate spaces (not lush green fields) and combined with electrical storage, it can provide great wealth and prosperity. Please look into these ideas in your Monday research newsletter Zoë!
Yeah, battery tech is evolving rapidly. I have been living off-grid for 7 years. Every time I see large solar "farms" with barren ground under and around them I am disgusted. Google agrivoltaics. Ground-mounted solar arrays can be mounted high enough to allow ruminants to graze under them.
So, around 25 minutes, she claims to have taken the Ornish diet apart. She leaves out the Neal Barnard studies, the Essylstyn Experience where people lived for 30 years with out heart attacks. She sounds so intelligent, but don't get sucked in!
Whole grains seem to be completely off the table in all the low carb spaces. I would love to see a discussion with someone like Sue Becker on the difference between bread and flours you buy in the store and freshly milled wheat from wheat berries which have almost all of the vitamins you need.
Agree with everything except needing stable energy from oil gas coal nuclear. Wind + solar + battery storage IS now reliable. Nuclear still has no way to dispose of the waste. Oil/coal/gas are finite and dirty. I guess no one is infallible. But the nutrition side discussed here is spot on.
Feel like her story is missing all historical context. What was the 10,000 year of agriculture? Were grains bad for us that whole time or only took up 20% of the diet? Or what was it... Would be good to know about the change if researching to prove a high meat diet is need. Did address some of it in the Mediterranean diet bit. But would be better to have someone of the Mediterranean join to tell that story together. Anyhow.
Grains would always be bad, especially if eaten in quantity. The Egyptians were the first people who relied heavily on them, they're also the first people registered with obesity, crooked teeth, osteoporosis, and atherosclerosis. I don't think we need studies to prove a high _fat_ (protein of meat is important, but fat is even more!) diet is needed, when we have hundreds of thousands of years (millions, if we are to consider those we evolved from) of paleontology and archeology evidence showing we were always aiming for fatty meat, eating other things only in times of need.
Yes! Sustainable agriculture using a balance harmony of plants and animals is the solution. Modern agriculture that uses petroleum origin fertilizer is destroying the earth. Monocropping is depleting the soil nutrients. Consequently , plant nutrients decrease over the decades because of soil depletion. The method exists for "better for the earth.
I buy the McDonald's special two for four dollars burger deal, patties and cheese only with two pats of butter per patty. I'm the working poor. Mostly hamburger patties, butter boiled eggs and sardines.
The opposite has happened to me. I gave up meat, fish, eggs and dairy 7 years ago and my eyes have improved. I always had eye problems, with retinal surgeries. There is a campaign funded by meat industries to discourage veganism
How many people have damaged their health or simply died on a vegan diet? A lot! People will speak out and it should not be hidden whether it is funded by meat industry or not.
Loved this interview and the valuable information provided. I really wanted to sign up for her newsletter, but is paid subscription only, cmon, not even the newsletter is free? No wonder that regular people can't make much progress and only affluent people are healthy. That is a disappointment.
First of all, the newsletter is awesome, and it's not very expensive at all. And why is it you think that people should spend a lot of their time and effort creating valuable content and give it all to you at no charge? Talk about entitled!
Learn more about fiber myths: www.nutritionwithjudy.com/seven-fiber-myths. Read more about Meat and climate change, seed oils and beyond meat: www.nutritionwithjudy.com/category/articles/page/11 (scroll down to row 3)
Bill Gates sells off plant-based foods: stockcircle.com/portfolio/bill-gates/bynd/transactions
Newsletter is by paid subscription only!
@@antjee I signed up for her free newsletter today. You are thinking of her paid membership.
Hi Judy ❤, Could you please do an episode on hypothyroidism in relationship to people with MTHFR mutations? Is there a suitable diet for us? Is the carnivore diet suitable, or a modified one? I've had signs of hypothyroid such as thin and loss of outer one third of the eyebrows and hairloss. Which only reared its head from young adult years.
I highly recommend subscribing to Zoë's website and weekly emails! She's awesome at dissecting 'so-called' scientific papers. She'd been one of the greatest teachers in my journey - and funny too!
Yes, I told her offline she's hilarious. 😅
Dr. Harcomb is amazing. I learn aomething new every time I listen to her.
I love listening to Zoe. She's just so straight forward, knowledgeable and witty.
I’m a subscriber to Dr. Harcombe’s weekly newsletter. It’s very instructive to watch her skewer each study. It isn’t superficial at all; she usually does the statistical calculations on the raw data (when she can get her hands on them). When the authors have played fast and loose with their ‘modeling’, Zoe will catch them out.
Love this woman’s view on health and FREEDOM. They go hand in hand.
In the USA there also stealing a lot of ranch land, but the media does not talk about it.
Well MSM doesn’t
But alt media does!
Agreed! To get informed on current affairs, I suggest Trinity Vandenacre; Yanasa TV; The Shepherdess. All amazing channels unpacking food security, local ranchers, water rights, land expropriation, so much more.
Dr Harcomb IS the game changer.
Absolutely love this interview. Thanks for sharing. She’s precise and thorough with a smile. Loved it.
Excellent interview! Bring her more often please!
Fantastic conversation! I’d heard of Zoë from Tim Naokes’s book, where I learned of her early support for him and his work when he started advocating for a high fat low carb diet.
The nutrition content was very informative, and the portion on the bogus “green” agenda was refreshingly candid and well reasoned.
What a compelling interview! Zoe is always so well read, researched and eloquent. And of course believable. Thx Judy.
I am amazed the amount of TRUTH in this video!!!
Zoe Harcombe is amazeballs! Her Monday notes makes my Tuesday! 🥰
So inspired by this podcast and the much needed truth being told to the masses! Once you can see what is and has been happening in relation to big food, big pharma and many others you can’t unsee it. Look out for you and your family because they are not looking out for you, only your wallet! Blessing to you both. ❤️🙏
A highly intelligent lady who is on a mission to help thousands of people ❤please invite her back 👍👍
Dark leafy green vegetables are number one source of nitric oxide..a vital gas molecule that the body needs..
Absolutly true there is space for balance of veg she isn't being fair as we need nitric oxide to help
Just do nasal breathing techniques. It is made by the body in the nose. No need to eat anything to get NO.
LOVE her description of the Mediterranean diet
Excellent presentation
Great interview . Love you girls xoxo
8:15 It's funny, I used to feel that all the time, eventually I'd get sick and tired of eating the same food, then I switched to carnivore 2 years ago and I literally NEVER get sick of eating beef. I could eat beef every day for the next 80 years and die happy of old age.
I think I could eat ribeyes daily till I die
Never will that happen loo
Yes, she meant in the context of illness and leaky gut, i assume. As i have not seen this to be a problem to a regular carnivore
agree, there's something about a juicy hot steak that you can never get sick of!
great conversation with Dr. Zoë!
This is just my own anecdote but I’ve been eating mostly animal based/ketovore for the past 4 years or so. It has helped my autoimmune symptoms tremendously. However, on my colonoscopy last week, I had several polyps, 2 quite large. My last one was 5 years ago and only had one small polyp. I wonder if plants/fiber might play a role in helping detox excess hormones in the gut. I’m perimenopausal, age 48.
Since the colonoscopy, I’ve added more seasonal veggies and low glycemic fruits back in, and have found my gut motility to be greatly improved and overall just feel better. I know meat is not the cause of my polyps, but I feel like perhaps meat is meant to “nourish” and plants are meant as medicine, to “ detox”? And in today’s environment, I think we’re bombarded with a lot of environmental toxins and perhaps our bodies need a little help getting rid of those things?
it sounds like a reasonable arguments, even though if those veggies and berries are not organic then you are likely going to be putting some toxins in your body. I'm not sure about the theory of making things move more (more bowel movements) to help detoxify the body, but if you feel better with that I don't think there is a problem. The interesting part is that you can accelerate or cause more bowel movements using a high dose of vitamin C, magnesium citrate or enough fat. I do think that large quantities of protein in isolation without the fat to move things through the intestine may cause some problem (I don't have any evidence for this, just a guessing). In my case, it seems like some fibers makes my digestion a little heavier and slower (still trying to figure out which ones and why), but some like mushrooms and fruits like zucchini seem to not bother me
Edit: I forgot to mention that I do think also that herbs and plants have medicinal properties; the use of EGCG from green tea is pretty convincent for me in the use of cancer
I’ve heard that plant fiber is what causes the polyps but who knows. Also, I had some polyps the last two times. I’ve only been on carnivore for six months but will be going back to check again with polyps. It’s been three years since last checked. I’ll see if there are any big changes.
@@sthnguyen yeah, I've also heard that different fibers can cause all types of problems, for sure they are not equal, some years ago I could eat high amounts of fiber from avocados and other things like dark chocolate, but hey, when I ate oatmeal, peanut butter or beans... It was the hell haha. Good luck with the new check, I hope it's gotten better!
@@sthnguyen thank you for sharing! I’d love to hear about your results after the next one. Good luck 👍
@@bastianfuentes8335 when I eat too much fats at one sitting I get diarrhea like stools so I do adjust the amount based on my bowel movement.
Brilliant! Thank you!
All you really need is donuts. The problem people run into is that they don't properly balance the different types. You need chocolate, powdered, sprinkles, plain, glazed, and jelly filled. If you concentrate on only one kind, you are sure to have a deficiency. If necessary, you can supplement with Doritos. And be sure to keep yourself hydrated with a large Mountain Dew or a Coke.
You for got buttermilk!
@@georgemead6608 You have a sharp eye, and a good knowledge of nutrition.
I'm an ag economist (Ph.D.) by training and not vegetarian, but these women do not really know anything about production (especially meat) agriculture. There's a huge amount of environmental damage caused by meat production, as a result of all the off farm inputs, transportation and processing. Just the cold-chain alone takes a huge amount energy, which is fuelled by fossil energy. Increasing meat production means increasing the arable land and large acale "regenerative agriculture" is a myth. Sadly, the Amazon forest has diminished for cattle grazing and this woman by her own admission "hasn't done the research." The land use is largely driven by market incentives and not how "regenerative" animal on a plot of land may be.The guest is equally deslusional when it comes to renewable energy. With regards to energy, just a few years Germany now produces almost 60% of its energy from renewables, spawned by the Ukraine war.
If you like to eat meat, just say that. Do not propagate myths, especially about things you don't know about. Bill Gates can afford all the steak he wants!! He doesn't need land for that.
Disagree.
Can you provide the data that supports your claims? I know Zoë's book is filled with references. She isn't talking about things she didn't research. If she's wrong, I'd like to read about it.
@@fabioriato TH-cam does not allow links to be posted. Look for an interesting piece on NPR with title, Can eating less beef and dairy help save the Colorado River? Using same keywords and author Erin Stone you should be able to find article. 30 years ago, when I was a Ph.D. student, this (diverting huge amounts of water from the Colorado River) was a concern. Today, some of my former classmates work as animal industry executives and are focused on making meat production more efficient using less land, water and feed. It is a difficult task and one that is likely unsustainable, as explained in this article.
Even if it is so animal source food has much higher value and quality in it than anything plant based. I love quality.
Pack with truths and goodies!
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Great discussion. Thank you both 👍👍👍
Watched from start to end. Great info from Dr. Harcomb.
This is a well formatted primer. I've been watching y'all for years.
Dr harcombe many of us drive hours each day. I listened to Dr Cho the carnivore cure. I listen to her the podcast on audible too. I listen to the presentations on TH-cam. I'll look into the Kindle app reader. You have an outstanding voice for the American outlet. Understandable accent with a delightful timbre should you decide to record your books they'll sell. Truck drivers kinda have to go low carb because it gets unsustainable to rollercoaster blood sugar. Also having more predictable bowel movements and in my case fixing the prostate so I don't have urgency for urination
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Not just that, the immense amount of water wasted on crops is beyond foolish.
I watched something a while back on the amount of water needed to grow almonds. It's incredible.
They 'sterilize' the land, eliminating bacteria/insects...life. Then they 'chemicalize' it, polluting the land surrounding it. Then they use big polluting machines to plant and pick it, or illegal aliens. Then they pollute with fuels to ship it where they use plastic pollution to package, print and create stuff soon for the landfill...and phthalates for your brain. And, every bit of it is poison, supporting the drug dealing, lying doctors. And that is just the tip of the iceberg of wasted resources, economy...and life.
Ha, ha. Where do you think all that corn to fatten up the animals in the feed lot comes from? Growing wild? Meat production uses a lot of water.
@@devdroid9606 We really need the movement for regenerative agriculture to grow. I buy local grassfed as much as I can. Corn is not natural food for cows and they shouldn't be eating it. Regenerative agriculture restores the land, monocrops destroy it (and all the creatures living in it) - the quality of the world's topsoils is decling at a frightening rate, because of these crops.
@@devdroid9606 Cattle uses rain water, no catchments/dams/rivers are drained. Also, they don't need to be grain fed. Cattle rejuvenated soils, monocrops destroy.
Mild note. Dr Cho, I was just listening to another interview then you came on. I wasn't watching and I first heard a topic I was expecting like Lili Kane. Then I was like Bella. Took me a full minute to decipher you. Yes your voice is distinctive. However you have help spreading your message. Your guest is royalty. I've been listening to you both for years. I'd started listening to your podcast on audible more than on TH-cam because I drive a lot. You consistently explain to expand my mind.
A wonderful talk. Thank you.
Judy, do you perhaps have coach that is resident in South Africa?
We work one on one with clients all over the world. We have some clients in SA!
There’s another argument that most of the agricultural land used to grow food for animals that we eat.
Yes, but only feed lots / grain fed cattle. No ruminants are designed to eat GMO wheat, they need grass. As Zoe says, REAL regenerative farming is what we need to be doing.
Zoe is the best!, :)))
Interesting discussion. I went strict lion diet for 3 months to alleviate my ulcerative colitis flare. I found that as an active 6'4" 215lb male, eating enough became a challenge. I was eating 3 lbs of fatty steak per day plus additional tallow throughout the day.
Something that occurred to me was that in a traditional hunter gatherer sense this way of eating wouldn't make sense. I hunt elk every year and the amount of fat that comes off any wild game is incredibly minimal. It would be impossible to get enough calories by only eating meat that you hunt.
I have since switched to a diet that emphasizes variety of plants while still including a variety of animal foods. While you stated that fiber is not beneficial to health I do think you can find a multitude of other doctors saying that the evidence is overwhelming that increased fiber increases SCFAs and gut microbe diversity.
It seems to me that the most natural way to eat would be to eat as many plants as possible and include meat that is consistent with how animals are in their natural state. To me that would be any meat that has fat levels in proportion to the entire animal eating an appropriate diet, aka lean.
NO plants! They are poisoned with deadly oxalates!
TLDR: Is the most reasonable diet one that is whole food plant based that also has a variety of moderately lean animal foods?
I would like to know more. 3 lbs of fatty red meat is likely more than 3500 kcals. That seems a good amount plus tallow for your size unless you are very active. Are you eating one meal a day or spreading it out. I would recommend 2 to three meals, it is not challenging at all at that point. Keep in mind that our ancestors specifically went after the largest animals they could find and likely ate every bit of it and also crushed the bones and skull for rich fat stores. Short chain fatty acids can be used by your gut lining but it is by no means a requirement. A diverse microbiome is achieved by literally any whole food diet. Plant materials are not required. Also no one knows what that diversity actually means or how it is good. There's really very little actual science around this.
@@OGPedXing I would generally eat three meals of one pound steaks each with tallow as a snack. I felt pretty good doing this and my UC disappeared. I am very active though and found it hard to maintain weight and felt sluggish in the gym.
One of my main issues was that i could feel myself becoming more and more sensitive to food. All of the sudden I developed a histamine intolerance where ground beef that was old or leftover stew meat was causing me issues.
I started to ask myself. "is someone that can only tolerate fresh meat really the picture of health?" I think that humans have evolved to eat plants when meat isn't available and that we benefit from them. I agree that the diversity argument is assuming something is beneficial when we don't know that it is.
Look into Dr. Sean Omara he addresses this with the use of fermented vegetables. Working out the way you do and introducing carbs will lead to insulin resistance and you will build up visceral fat no matter how you look on the outside. Having bulging (inflamed) muscles isn’t always the picture of health
Great interview!
She literally says at the end the studies didn't include women, it amazes me how nutrition professionals preach yo women about studies only done on men. In my mid 20s i lost my period for 6 years and lost fertility for giving up all carbs and it wasn't until I incorporated fiber and organic vegetables that I got it back and was able to get pregnant. Premenopausal women need organic vegetables
We live in the upside down world. Former vegetarian/ vegan who found out I was missing ribeye my whole life ❤
Crispy sliced potatoes with my ribeye or a hunk of whole grain sourdough
This the paradise out of reach to old ladies who must be on lowcarb or blow up HUGE just smelling tubers or fruit
Where can I find the paper from institute of medicine that says humans don't need carbohydrates? I know dr berry quotes this paper. And I think dr westman also refferances this paper also.
You don't need a paper, you need to know that we can make our own sugar from protein. It is called gluconeogenesis.
Ironically Carbohydrates are the most unhealiest foods on earth. Carbohydrates is the literal reason why humans on earth have a massive health crisis.
@dj1rst thank you kindly. I know about this process. I just wanted to show the evidence to some friends that are worried they need carbs. But thanks.
Just pick up a human biochemistry book and look up gluconeogenesis.
I agree. There are some acquaintances who need more evidence than just what we say. 👍
That was excellent. Thank you .
Ppl go veghead due to desperation
Unless they’re 11 and indoctrinated “it’s mean”
Planet health, while upheld as noble, is rarely the foundation. “It’s mean” PLUS it’s better for the planet/humanity.
Illness will push a person
Finances will push a person/family
Veganism is how cultures survived thru centuries of hunger but those hard times produced degenerating ppl. It took quite a number of generations to get to thriving ppls again and then we stacked it back down to medieval times with unneeded veghead-ness. Yes even finances being the reason for it is becuz of greed, not true need.
My only problem with this train of thought is to question whether eating plants really created a degenerated people. In general those populations have had good health and longevity. I think that the degenerated population I see today isn’t due to eating plants but rather hyper palatable processed foods filled with chemicals and artificial additives. I’m completely on board with eating animal foods as a keystone of your diet but I wonder if we are missing the mark by blaming whole plant foods for the issues that have come with our modern diet
@@baseballlover121Hunter gatherers had better health than farmers. Plant based diets made humans weaker.
I went on a 3 month carnivore diet of mainly lamb and beef. My knee pain of 41 years went completely away, joint pains all gone, reflux gone. But my LDL shot up to 12.9 mmol/L! Scary! I added back a small amount of vegetables...and every pain came back in 2 days! I follow Dave Feldman and Nick Norwitz. Now I'm adding back a small amount of rice and hopefully can bring down LDL to a more acceptable level 😢
Cholesterol and lipoproteins are under the control of your genes. Whatever your level is that’s exactly what it needs to be.
If you follow Nick and Dave you know whether or not a high LDL is scary or not. If eating the proper human diet increases LDL, where is the evidence, other than allopathic propaganda, that it's a bad thing?
High LDL is far better for you than rice! Humans don't need carbs and all plants are harmful over time..
LDL terror reflects old medical practice and protocols! LDL will likely increase with carnivore diet but Triglycerides, HDL (and the Triglycerides/HDL ratio), as well as fasting insulin are much more valuable biomarkers of metabolic health. DO NOT ACCEPT a prescription for statins based on an elevated LDL if all the other health biomarkers are favorable! Our medical providers need to catch up with the research and be willing to move past outdated science that may have been relevant 30 years ago. (And we now know that much of the nutrition guidance for the past 50 years has been based on fraudulent, flawed, weak and heavily biased research.) We did it with cigarettes and have saved millions of lives. Now it’s time to do it with nutrition.
Great information
Love you guys. 2:06
This is great information, I love it.
Her book costs $37, for a paperback? Do I have that right?
Interlibrary loan. That's what I do or I ask my library to buy books I'm interested in reading.
They all cost less than £15 at Amazon in the UK.
I’m sure lol
It said that information is gatekeeped and always has been
That's a regular cost for a good book.
Yes, somehow, we have come to this worry.
Meat or plants all these so called experts cherry pick their data.
Fiber SUCKS!! Avoid.
Great interview Judy 👏
Love Zoe including that cute nose twitch she does like in the Bewitched TV program. 😀
Well in defense
No diet ever says 5 fruit
It says 5 fruit or veggies
No one eats veggies so they don’t just eat 1-2 pieces fruit (as would be reasonable), they eat 5 fruit cuz it’s eating candy each one!
I wish they would break down produce into 4vegs & 1fruit a day. Raw fruit only and 1 raw veg daily.
And put starchy veggies in with grain!
This alone would help so much.
Then again, kids in the US don’t eat fruit anymore either, not just don’t eat veggies besides potatoes. They haven’t eaten beans in decades besides rarely in chili or tacos. Most cooks make these even with little to no beans.
Even during our veghead stage, my family ate no more than 1 pc fruit daily. Ok, maybe 2 if they had already had the crudités always available & were still famished due to athletics or hard labor tasks. We were lowfat so my kids did get hungry 😫
I had a big gap btwn sets of kids (15 yrs) and the younger set was raised quite diff in eating. Fatty, lowcarb & meaty. Also cod liver oil w/centrifuged butter oil, Lugol’s iodine & mag as mainstays.
I’ve been studying nutrition for 45-50 yrs (started in my childhood!)
Plants are trying to kill you. What pert are you missing?
Thank you for sharing some interesting points.
I'd like to bring forward the point about how our digestive systems differ from those of ruminants as I feel helps make my point easier to understand. Ruminants like cows, have multi-chambered stomachs adapted to fibrous plants, our single-chambered stomachs process food differently. This impacts how we handle certain vegetables. The presence of anti-nutrients like oxalates, phytates, and lectins in vegetables such as broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower, and Brussels sprouts are valid considerations in nutrition science, especially as these compounds can potentially interfere with mineral absorption. Furthermore, fibrous vegetables can require a lot of energy, sometimes more than the calories they provide. I'll acknowledge that cooking methods can often mitigate some of these issues, breaking down tough fibers and reducing anti-nutrient content. Additionally, many nutritionists argue that the benefits of these vegetables, including their vitamin, mineral, and phytochemical content, often outweigh the potential downsides for most people. I think they're generally recommended for a few reasons: a) they're low in calories, so low in fat and carbs, which makes them fit well in most diets; b) they can replace processed foods; c) they add bulk; and d) they add variety.
While vegetables are often considered safe and beneficial for everyone by professionals, it's important to note that they're not a one-size-fits-all solution. Their nutritional benefits can vary depending on individual factors, and excessive consumption may even lead to negative consequences. This is why many children instinctively dismiss vegetables - they're onto something. It's essential to consider the potential drawbacks, such as the presence of anti-nutrients and the energy required for digestion, when incorporating large quantities of vegetables into our diets.
Although in terms of fruits, I'd also include light green leaves and seasonal salad vegetables as better options for us. They're more easily digestible and calorie-efficient. These foods often contain simpler sugars and a more optimal ratio of soluble fiber, which can make them easier on the digestive system for many people.
Regarding starchy vegetables, you've reiterated an important point about their nutritional value compared to refined grains. While they may have a higher glycemic index, their additional nutrient content can make them a valuable part of many diets. I'm not against properly prepared starches, preferably resistant starches and maybe root vegetables, as they have some good prebiotic properties.
The declining consumption of fruits, vegetables, and beans among children in the U.S. is indeed a concern, mostly due to changes in food availability, marketing, and cultural eating patterns. Most kids have corn, ketchup, fries, pickles, juices, and baked beans instead of unprocessed whole forms.
@@AstonAcademiaThese kids should eat more animal source foods not vegetables and fruit.
@@AstonAcademiaThese kids should eat more animal source foods not vegetables and fruit.
I love your "Broccoli" comment, (Not all that*) Totally agree, not keen on any of those in cabbage family.
Judy, the sound is wonky. It gets real quiet then around min 47 it jumps back to normal
I just asked numerous sources (AI, etc.), 'Is the Mediterranean diet heavy on meat.' I got a resounding, 'No'. Here's an excerpt of one of the answers:
Meat consumption: The Mediterranean diet emphasizes plant-based foods, and red meat is eaten infrequently and in small amounts. Meat alternatives: Fish, poultry, and plant-based proteins can replace red meat. Meat portion size: If you do eat red meat, aim for a single 3-ounce serving per week.
It's been a long time since I spent time in the region, but there was always meat (pork or lamb, usually) or fish in the meals I had, and it was delicious. There's a lot of land there that isn't good for anything except grazing animals.
Yup
AI lies
Imagine…
There is no ‘Mediterranean’ diet. The countries around the Mediterranean are diverse in diet.
Good detective work! 👀👏
Mary ruddick has many videos on this. They eat alot of animal foods and dairy.
Hi anybody I have AFIB I want to go Carnivore but I need potassium from vegetables and fruits it made me too skinny eating too much chicken. Red meat gives me energy but I get constipated thx
Meat has plenty of potassium, eat more fat and maybe add dairy if you tolerate it.
@@leemanwrong meat contains ample potassium and sizeable quantities of butter or ghee fixes constipation my own health is proof of that, I am in mid 70's
@@leemanwrongthank you
@@chrisryder1073thank you
Hi Judy can you help me , struggling with my carnivore diet and I really need help
Pay attention to what your body is telling you!
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Methane comes from deep I the earth. And it comes up in the grasses and vegetables that we eat as well as animals eating the grass
You can buy great quality meat in UK, but buying good local veggies is borderline impossible! And it doesn't make sense!
Hi Judy carnivore 2 1/2 years not getting results A1C 6.6 I’m confused
Not enough fat, too much protein.
"Cui bono?" It is always to ask...
But don't you think obesity is caused by dieting. Skinny fashion and bmi came out just before obesity took off. They've convinced women they're overweight no matter how thin they are. Then what do they do, cut calories. When you cut calories, you gain weight. It's as simple as that. There are actually more diabetic normal weight people than diabetic fat people. Don't you think diabetes could be caused by vegetable oil? 51:13
I watched a movie on impossible meat impersonation last night with Nina t. Well done.
I love almost everything about Zoë. She is debunking the ridiculous plant-based narrative we've all been force fed since the 50s.
However, her view of the energy transition is narrow minded.
We do not know whether humans are warming the planet by keeping CO2 emissions high, but there's a fair chance that we are.
The point should be that renewable energy doesn't need to be unreliable - when done correctly, using appropriate spaces (not lush green fields) and combined with electrical storage, it can provide great wealth and prosperity.
Please look into these ideas in your Monday research newsletter Zoë!
Yeah, battery tech is evolving rapidly. I have been living off-grid for 7 years. Every time I see large solar "farms" with barren ground under and around them I am disgusted. Google agrivoltaics. Ground-mounted solar arrays can be mounted high enough to allow ruminants to graze under them.
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So, around 25 minutes, she claims to have taken the Ornish diet apart. She leaves out the Neal Barnard studies, the Essylstyn Experience where people lived for 30 years with out heart attacks. She sounds so intelligent, but don't get sucked in!
I know plenty of people on Esselstyn's diet who are not at all healthy.
Whole grains seem to be completely off the table in all the low carb spaces. I would love to see a discussion with someone like Sue Becker on the difference between bread and flours
you buy in the store and freshly milled wheat from wheat berries which have almost all of the vitamins you need.
Agree with everything except needing stable energy from oil gas coal nuclear.
Wind + solar + battery storage IS now reliable. Nuclear still has no way to dispose of the waste. Oil/coal/gas are finite and dirty.
I guess no one is infallible. But the nutrition side discussed here is spot on.
Feel like her story is missing all historical context. What was the 10,000 year of agriculture? Were grains bad for us that whole time or only took up 20% of the diet? Or what was it... Would be good to know about the change if researching to prove a high meat diet is need. Did address some of it in the Mediterranean diet bit. But would be better to have someone of the Mediterranean join to tell that story together. Anyhow.
…and have a 2 hour long interview?
Grains would always be bad, especially if eaten in quantity.
The Egyptians were the first people who relied heavily on them, they're also the first people registered with obesity, crooked teeth, osteoporosis, and atherosclerosis.
I don't think we need studies to prove a high _fat_ (protein of meat is important, but fat is even more!) diet is needed, when we have hundreds of thousands of years (millions, if we are to consider those we evolved from) of paleontology and archeology evidence showing we were always aiming for fatty meat, eating other things only in times of need.
In layman’s terms, “Don’t worry be happy.” 😊
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Yes! Sustainable agriculture using a balance harmony of plants and animals is the solution. Modern agriculture that uses petroleum origin fertilizer is destroying the earth. Monocropping is depleting the soil nutrients. Consequently , plant nutrients decrease over the decades because of soil depletion. The method exists for "better for the earth.
I take a little psyllium - about 4 grams. 👌
She is a pseudo scientist.
She is comparing a earthworms with cows????
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I buy the McDonald's special two for four dollars burger deal, patties and cheese only with two pats of butter per patty. I'm the working poor. Mostly hamburger patties, butter boiled eggs and sardines.
When you come to the animals, if the whole world became vegan we would wind up with sand instead of soil.
Bingo! We're creating a desolate desert with our agricultural industries.
The opposite has happened to me. I gave up meat, fish, eggs and dairy 7 years ago and my eyes have improved. I always had eye problems, with retinal surgeries. There is a campaign funded by meat industries to discourage veganism
How many people have damaged their health or simply died on a vegan diet? A lot! People will speak out and it should not be hidden whether it is funded by meat industry or not.
@@TTR83Say only one person who died from a balanced whole food plant based diet!
@@phero9 More than a one.
Loved this interview and the valuable information provided. I really wanted to sign up for her newsletter, but is paid subscription only, cmon, not even the newsletter is free? No wonder that regular people can't make much progress and only affluent people are healthy. That is a disappointment.
She needs to make a living to keep spreading her message. 🤷♀️
@@laura44135 I am sure that is possible without a paid subscription newsletter.
First of all, the newsletter is awesome, and it's not very expensive at all. And why is it you think that people should spend a lot of their time and effort creating valuable content and give it all to you at no charge? Talk about entitled!
so much opinion, so little science. Can you do a video on what UFOs eat? Zoe will know as she knows everything.
Did she just hate on celebrations 😅
People like to be told that meat is good.
Meat IS good. All kinds of fish too.
Meat addiction is very powerful
Meat is what people should eat.
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Thats certainly what jeffery dahmer thought
The addiction to meat is very powerful, the meat industry is very powerful, the money they pay to these charlatans is very powerful.
@@reactancio4126 I think there's nothing wrong if people do know what they have to eat. Let them speak.
@@reactancio4126 At least someone who can think in this hoard of sheeps!