My Workbench - in depth 1 year review
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You very rarely see review videos going back to see how things have changed after building/installing. Your video is an excellent example of how such videos should be made. Thanks!
Jay, This has got to be the best video on a "Review after having built x years ago", I have ever seen! I also like your honest way of explaining things such as; "how much does it weigh" or "I really never use this or that the way I had planned" etc.
I don't care that the video was long because it was very inclusive of questions I would have had and you answered them all! Very interesting. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you very much for the feedback.
You have a gift my friend. Almost an hour of not building anything, and it's still a great vid. I actually watched this and the bathroom vanity SketchUp vid in the same day, so I'll be looking for my JCC merit badge in the mail ;)
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I can't believe I just watched you talk about your workbench for 53:00. Nice job.
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I wish I could get yellow pine, up here in the Pacific Northwest. I loved working with it when I was stationed in Texas.
The advantage of building your own bench and adding the vises you desire, is that it is YOUR bench. You need a tool that fits your circumstances and they way you work.
Nice bench, well described.
Thanks Jay. Even though it may have seemed like a long vid, it was clear, concise and direct. I like the fact that you give your honest opinion and tell viewers to make up their own minds. That is refreshing.
Thanks, Tom.
Very nice review of the work bench. After building one from your plans which are 28 pages long and very detailed, I'd have to say my bench turned out better than my expectations. It might be easy for you to pick an end up and move it around, mine is a beast super heavy. Lol I have the leg vise and agree with strategically placed dog holes. This is the first (and last) proper work bench I will ever build or need. I looked at the roubo designs and while it doesn't have the built in features, I could add them externally if I want them (center split excluded) . This bench is my work horse. Thanks for the build video, review and plans.
Thanks for the feedback dude.
Can't recommend your build/set of plans enough. I built mine at the end of summer and couldn't be happier with it. The only change I made was that I opted to use Benchcrafted's CrissCross vs. the wedge. Extremely happy with it, but it did force me to reposition the stretcher on the leg vise's side. The CrissCross requires a large mortise on both the leg and vise itself.
The only other addition's I've made is a sliding deadman (using angle iron on the top and a simple wedge across the stretcher). I toiled with the idea of a wagon vise, but the Veritas quick release wonder dog serves that function extremely well.
The only other change I can see myself making is swapping out the tail vise for a Veritas Twin Screw Vise. I use the leg vise 90% of the time, but there are times when I need to dovetail wider panels, and the twin screw would allow quite a bit more depth and room. But it would cost more than the entire bench build :)
I have bench envy!
I had about an hour to spare today before I watch our teams last game of the season!! The more I use hand tools, the more it’s painfully obvious that I need a legit workbench! I watched the build videos on this, but not the overview. I’m glad I took the time to watch it. It gave me a ton to think about! Great job Jay!!
This is one of the two most informative workbench videos on YT. Lots of people say you don't need a bunch of whirligigs on your bench, but you really connect a lot of dots here on what actually gets used, and how.
I found someone selling untreated SYP 2x12's on Craigslist so I'm pulling the trigger, and this video is driving quite a lot of what I'm going to build. Cheers!
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Great work. I really enjoyed watching you making it and I'm glad you are still happy with it.
Great job on this video explaining and answering some of the questions you had on it. I appreciate you taking the time to filming this as well as answering my question about how often you flatten it. I also like to leave the character in my bench as much as possible and I don't find much need to make sure it's perfectly dead flat.
It looks like you have one dog in your end vise board. Drill another the same distance from the end. So you will have two dog holes in your end vise board. I use Kreg blue plastic dogs.
Then drill two matching dog holes in your end vise back board... so that when tightened, you can place between the four dogs, a 2x4 - 24 inches long with 6 inches cantilevered beyond the edge your bench. The cantilevered portion, you will use all the time, for drilling, jig saw work, sawing - something you can clamp to... and can put a plastic household trash can below to catch the sawdust. I use a Armor short shaft hold down clamp, (make sure you drill your dog hole deep enough) inserted into a third dog hole in the end vise back board, to clamp down on the end of the 2x4 to keep it from lifting up out from the dogs, when you put pressure on the cantilevered end.
So that is three dog holes you need to drill in you end vise back board. Two for dogs, and one for the Armor short shaft hold down.
My 2x4 has all kind of use damage holes and saw marks in it - which you would not want in your bench top.
These comments and insights were really, really helpful in assisting me in deciding how I want to make my workbench. Thank you so much for taking the time to do this one.
Jay, Good job, the bench looks great. I too built a Paul Sellers inspired work bench that is very stiff, approximately the size of yours with a tool well in the middle. Wish I could have done it when I was 29 but I waited til I was 71. I really enjoy your videos.
thanks for taking the time to explain your thoughts on building a workbench. I'm doing research to build myself one.
The clarity of hindsight is very valuable thanks for making this video. Videos assessing self made tools after significant use are very informative. I have been thinking that if I ever build my own house I might make one corner into a large built in workbench done right it seems like a very solid design.
Love the shooting board with the layers and end block to clamp in the vise for working material.
Many thanks Jay. Even when you're not making shavings, you're videos are really informative and helpful.
Great tour of the bench Jay.
I did enjoy a 1 year review. As I have the lumber to make my work bench, just need to find the time to make it. So it was nice to see your thoughts after a solid year of use. Thanks as always for your videos!
A definite thumbs UP!! The best DIY-workbench-101 on the web! So much good info and unbiased thoughts around the whole workbench issue! Love it! Thanx Jay!!
Thank you, Roy.
You're a really smart guy, Jay! And thanks for explaining how things work and why you chose it to work like that.
Constantly thinking about efficiency and convenience and go with what works the easiest for you... which keeps your energy focused on the work itself and keeps you from getting fed up with unneccessary hassles.
Great! :)
starting my workbench this weekend. thanks for the insight. Cheers
I enjoy this type of video. I learned several things, including the purpose of the sliding dead man which I've seen on other designs. Thanks for explaining it.
i have to agree with other comments here that this is possibly one of the most informative videos, especially on a workbench, that I've seen. Well done Jay on a great presentation and thanks for sharing.
I've watched several of your videos now. It looks like you do good work. Your very thorough with your instructions and explanations. Thanks for making your plans available on your website as well. Pipe clamp vise is brilliant BTW. So simple I wanted to slap myself for not thinking of it on my own.
Jay, appreciate the in depth review. Especially the off center top response.
This and your previous workbench video are excellent. Well thought-out and planned. You made yourself a wonderful and useful tool for your shop. Excellent review on its features, advantages and disadvantages that will help many woodworkers like me.
Great review. I made your bench shortly after you published the videos on it (Interesting Stuff #121). I still absolutely love it. The pine has never been a concern, and the bench is rock solid, perfect for planing, chopping mortises, etc. Definitely one of the best additions to my shop. Keep up the great content.
Great review, keep up the excellent work and sharing your experiences as a woodworker and craftsman.
Yes I made it all the way as well. Great video as all your others, a least the ones I have watched, very down to earth and in a simple straight forward way. Keep up the videos.
Great info and the plans for this bench are awesome! Good work Jay!
Your workbench videos were a big help and inspiration for building my own workbench. It's a softwood 'Frankenbench' with only 4 dogholes on top, front vise only, and shelves with plastic boxes instead of drawers. Thanks to all the information you give, I started this endeavor without the fear that I would regret some design decisions afterwards. It's also been a year now, and still happy with the design.
Fantastic review 1 year later. Nice to know your design is working out for you. And I LOVE it when other craftsmen (or women) share their tips, especially things that didn't quite turn out. Now I can just skip those other two vises and just go with the leg vice. Your wedge solution on the bottom is BRILLIANT! Love it. (I know you got it from someone else, but it's still a great idea and thanks for sharing it.)
EXCELLENT VIDEO !!! Lot's of useful information. Thanks for sharing. Can't wait to build my table.
Going to start building a similar bench over my spring vacation coming up.
nice review. I'm just starting to plan my workshop as i have a new large single garage thats empty. I'm addicted to your videos and can't wait to make things. my father was a carpenter and and i sadly didn't have an interest in carpentry till he passed so I'm using your videos as inspiration and for knowledge. please keep up the good work.
THUMBS UP if you made it all the way through :)
I did !
Does multi-tasking count? :)
I did, but when Jay started talking about the travelling stool I was aching to search for a video on him making it, but it was close enough to the end to stick it out. I have to say this is almost certainly the most qualified account of what makes a good workbench. Especially what he said about the vises. I am going to take several of his ideas on board, and probably going to use a very similar design when building my own bench for home.
Dude. I watched this video multiple times.
Great review, love that leg vice. Thanks Jay.
Good job on the review. I really like you thoughts on damaging the workbench vs. damaging the project. Good point!
Hey Jay, thanks for doing this video.
I need to make a work bench soon and had ruled out the Roubo type vice due to me having a sore back and bending over to insert a pin wasn't practical. Using that wedge is brilliant. So looks like its back on the plans for me. Thank you.
Thanks for the thorough ad"vice". I'm about to build my first bench and don't know what I would need in a vice or how I will work, so listening to your feedback has helped tremendously.
Thanks for the Doug Fir comment, I was wondering. Great actual day to day realistic information. I am thinking of using it as an outfeed table for the table saw as I have a 1 1/2 car garage. Will have to see.
I bought the plans last week and am now starting the glue up on the top. I too am using syp and am thinking of doing a split top. I'm shooting for a 37 inch height and 6 ft long and 30" wide give or take. I'm 6'6" and the work height is necessary. That is also the same height as my table saw and I currently use the saw to build on from time to time. So far the plans are very well published and easy to follow. Jay you did a great job and the plans are worth every penny.
Good follow-up, Jay! Took me a few days, but I watched it all. I was interested to learn that you would just do the leg vise if you did it over, so I will keep that in mine if/when I build one.
I did stick around for the whole video and found all of it informative. I am a professional, but will retire within the next few months and intend to do what I love and not necessarily what I have to. You, friend, are truly informativo and a great videographer! Thanks!!
Great job Jay, I enjoy your shows.
great technical lecture. thanks millions. great practical industrial art/engineering.
I learned about southern yellow pine, I was looking for a wood harder than Poplar.
greetings from north California.
I bought your plans last March and built it just like yours, except with Douglas Fir....its all i could find here in Nebraska! I could not be happier! Thanks Jay
Glad to hear that!
Very good video. Good answer to a lot of questions. Thanks.
Great dust free video! I need to finish my shop,then build that bench!
Hi Jay. Enjoy all your videos. My workshop is in my garage but I also park my 2 cars in there which forces me to clean up each day. My workbench top is offset also but I did mine to put my shop vac under one end. Would like to add a vice in the future.
Very well done video and pragmatic advice
You have inspired me to build a new work bench. Thanks, great video.
Great review - Lots of very useful insights !
I love the idea of that Leg Vice bro.. It's a cool look to it as well..
Thanks for the info Jay!
4:45 - 5:30 is what makes you an excellent teacher (whether you know it or not)!! In India, there's no Maple, no Hickory, and, if I have my facts correct; no real understanding of hard and soft woods within the (very small) beginner community of DIY woodworkers. I'm sure that you will struggle describing the hardness of Mango wood (for pallets) versus the termite resistance of Teak (fine furniture) but I really appreciate the effort that you have put in to teach budding "woodworkers" like me about the basics of the kind of wood that they will end up using. Izzy Swan and Matthias Wandel will have a hard time catching up with you.
Jay Bates, You rock!! Subbed, Liked, and Shared.
Vishwaneet Singh, I have always appreciated Jay's ways of explaining things. Speaking as a teacher myself, I appreciate his delivery method and level of detail!
Hardwood and softwood are terms referring to the trees botany, for example balsa is technically a hardwood because it is an angiosperm. If you want a good way to compare the woods used north American designs to adapt them to your local materials I suggest comparing the janka hardness of different woods and as for rot resistance other than a few species such as Osage Orange, Cedar, and Redwood few types of common wood in north America are particularly rot resistant.
Not sure what to say except “you are the man” ! Thanks!
Great review Jay
Great video, made it all the way through! Thanks!
The only part that doesn't work for me are the height comments. As a 6'6" old guy, bench height is extremely important. It reduces fatigue for planeing, boring, mortising, etc., reduces back soreness. It also makes it easier to see the work, and position the tools accordingly. I strongly recommend a bench height suited to the worker's height.
Keep up the great work!
That was interesting from the first to the last minute.
Cheerio from Germany
Jay! AGH!!! I'd have never noticed the unsymmetrical shot but now it will be all I can see!
Thanks for the video. It's good to know what works for some woodworkers.
Made it the full hour. Now I'm trying to figure out what I have to get rid of in my shop to make room for this. I wanted it when you made it, this video makes me want it even more.
So many comments to read through, so if someone said this already just ignore this comment.
Chris Schwars from Lost art press(one of my personal woodworking idols), wrote a whole book on work benches and he touched on when he was a writer for Fine woodworking that he wrote an article on how to build a work bench on a budget. The wood he used in the article as he explained it was off the shelf building material, which where he was located happened to be southern yellow pine. He goes on to explain that it's a very stable wood, easily workable and that when it dried out the pitch would harden in the wood and make it incredibly hard. So this bench should last you a very long time. It's a great bench too BTW.
Great job!
I've been considering making this bench but I think I may use a couple strips of hard maple where the dog holes are drilled. That's likely a good fix for the issues you encountered.
Great follow up. Instead of pinning the leg vice handle I would use rubber O rings to hold it in the center and that way if you want the handle down you just move the O ring.
I really like it, I wish I could bye southern yellow pen but it is just a Hassel to try to get it in the northeast. So Doug fir is the alternative. Nice work brother
Could try a removable sheet of hardwood plywood if Douglass-fir ends up being softer than you like.
I have watched a few of your videos. I like the pipe clamps because they will be great for my needs of working on guitar bodies easier. Also at a great savings in cost.
Lots of good stuff in this one.
great clamping ideas!
Great work bench.
Ref; flattening your bench-you forget to mention that is the advantage of laminating the top gives excellent stability.
Southern yellow pine is fine if it is of proper size. Density of hardwoods will allow smaller dimension top with same weight. It will hold its shape mainly edges and heavy work areas longer with same usage. The real benefit comes when you work consistently with harder woods you will not dent the bench as much.
Great video, brother.
Thank you Jay.
I think the one thing I would do differently, is to NOT glue the top down. It tabs in so snugly anyway, if the soft wood top ever got so torn up you wanted to replace it, you could do so easily. You could even bolt it in from the sides if it were moving at all.
I disagree. Traditional tried and true workbench designs disagree as well. The top has enough material that you can plane away the scars hundreds of times before negatively effecting the usability of the bench. Securing it in place makes the overall structure more solid.
Quick update???? video almost and hour? :) I ENJOYED EVERY MINUTE OF IT!!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU FOR ACTUALLY FOLLOWING UP WITH AN UPDATE EXCELLENT+++++++ I see a leg vise being added to my bench. Thanks again for doing "the leg work" pun intended. :) Your newest subscriber in Oregon Raye
That has to be the longest video of yours I have ever seen. I watched and enjoyed the entire video. Thanks for sharing. Take care
It's the longest video I've uploaded. And the largest file size. It's in 4k so it was over 15 GB.
Thank You Jay...
Awesome workbench, just waiting myself to buy some good pine lumber to make one myself...
It would be nice to see the best options for storing hand tools big and small, visibly on the wall, also how to avoid junk drawers
Great job with all the explanations. Perhaps you can do a video on your Polk Bench too.
I realize that yours is somewhat modified and I'm curious if you ever use the dog holes or if just a few would have been enough or if any at all for your needs and how often you use it for assembly and did you really need it etc. Thanks
Feel ur garage floor woes. Built a 9' long miter/assembly table along one wall and ended up with 1" shim on one side. Wish I'd known it was so terrible when I started, I'd have custom cut the legs instead of batching them all out the same size
After watching other videos I am drawn to your design. What can you suggest how I do it with my solid 5"x12"x10 feet lumber? I have several pieces which I have been planning on turning into a solid work bench for some time now. Great video editing you have there...and this update review is worth the watch. Thanks.
Very nice bench
It was cool to watch the build video then the 1 year review. I am remodeling my garage and will be building an outfeed/assembly table combo and really like your design. I have an idea to use aluminum pipe as sleeves for the dog holes. I haven't seen anyone do this. Has it been tried and failed? What do you think?
I recently finished this project using your plans (great plans, by the way). Being up here in Canada, no SYP to be found. Ended up using SPF instead, Im a little worried its going to be too soft, but we will find out. Cost is about the same when you account for the difference in the dollar. Like you said, I wish I had built this thing sooner. Great video, liked hearing your experience after a year of using it. Due to length I watched the video in sections, but all the info was useful. Looking forward to when you can get back to projects. Thanks Jay.
My initial thought is that SPF is too soft. But I've received a lot of feedback from people who built it using SPF saying that there is no problems with using it and it's working out great.
Jay Bates 2 how about this, I'll let you know in a year ;)
Nice video, very informative, the only thing i would add is electric outlets, for power tools. Thanks.
Just got finished watching the entire build series of this bench and am very impressed, well done. I am getting into wood working as a hobby and am currently in the process of building a custom home office L shaped desk. I just wish that I had some of the tools that you have (Joiner and Planer). Oh, one last thing, what type of finish did you use on this bench?
Very interesting to see this in depth evaluating. 👍👍👍 Can you please also show some details of your red stool 🙏 It seems to be quite stable ands is probably hight adjustable?
Great! Thank you
Love your channel. Do you see any advantages to dovetailing the legs to the top vs a mortise and tenon? I’m in the middle of a build and am wrestling with that idea for my own. I value your insight.
On the pipe clamp rig, why not just rotate the heads 90 degrees internally? That way there will be no vertical pivot and the horizontal pivot can be addressed by tightening the other clamp.
That won't change the vertical racking. The clamping force is still below the bottom of the material...
Yeah, this was good. I'm planing on build one of these this year, out of 100+ year old Douglas fir.
Mine will be smaller in length though. I'll primarily be using it just for dovetailing and small type projects.