@lxnely07 are you like a whale and your inner thoughts are feelings and images?? I always am confused about the distinction between inner monologs and those without xD like is it subtitles up in there?? Grunting?? Arithmatic?
@@Deathstar0wannabe LMAO it’s just darkness I don’t see or hear anything, but there is something producing words when I read sentences or think of something, when I think of something it’s in WORDS 😭😭
i love the deep dive into aphantasia. i feel like there should be some type of segment where sydney talks about her experience with aphantasia. i find it so interesting and i think others would be just as interested as me
as someone who also has aphantasis and no internal monologue, it was so interesting to hear syndey talk about it! i never even knew other people could genuinely see things in their minds until about 2 years ago and it really boggled my mind.
this might be the best episode yet! I feel the exact same way as Sydney, with always writing a book in your head and saying words when imagining something. As a maladaptive daydreamer, it's kind of a problem when i found out other people imagine pictures in their head, but before that i had never experienced anything else.
They should do an OTV video series of becoming spies. So they already did the drifting to they got defensive driving down. They did parkour, they got that down, but now they need like knife throwing and like evasion tactics. It'd be a fun video where they try to put on disguises and hide from people tracking them.
Brodin: "I don't see the connection" (referring to grey hounds) Also Brodin: "I've always been compared to a gazelle or a cheetah. What dog would be like that?"
SYDNEY, THANK YOU! I now finally know about Aphantasia. I've been living with it my whole life and never thought to research the term for it. Wow. You just solved. a riddle for me. I, too, don't have an internal monologue + Aphantasia. The first time I learned about this I was mind blown. Wow.
I can imagine tht its bad caus you may not hav the funds to buy another and your cell mate might not like you stinking up the space shit he might beat your ass if he even caught a small wiff of odor 😂
I started watching these podcast recently and I was saying to myself how it would be amazing if they posted a podcast today and I’m so happy I predicted it!
Loved this episode! Sean Gares also has aphantasia and he said it made him really good at pattern recognition and memorization (helped him a lot IGLing in cs and coaching in valorant)
Did not know Sydney has aphantasia. I feel like it's kind of rarely talked about that people with it might not even know they have it. I only learned about it when I'm like an adult. Always thought "picture this" was a figure of speech and no one can actually picture things in their mind lol.
NGL, I randomly clicked on this episode. I haven't caught up with the last podcast for a while, and I'm glad I did. This episode has been so informative and entertaining. I didn't even know what aphantasia was, and I learned about it. Plus, now I respect Sydney more. By the way, your discussion about jail was hilarious.
I learned at 27 I have a comprehension learning disability. After reading the documentation on my unnamed disability I broke down for a week. Finally my struggles in how my brain thinks became clear and why back and forth conversations can be so hard randomly. I only learned this cause I went back to college for a new career path and people thought I was undiagnosed add. It really turned my life around and able to know when my learning disability is showing itself and how to react positively instead of shutting down has been a godsend. It is still a struggle but I get where Sydney is coming from having your whole life turned upside down and starting to make sense. It is a feeling so few people I'm sure experience but if you have healthy relationships around you it can be so refreshing and easy to change your day to day struggles.
I feel like an internal monologue is just audio memories that you replay in your head, basically like a little chatgpt in your head that can also generate images
I wish i lived in the northwest area. I always hear such good things about seattle and San Francisco. I have a cousin who moved to Seattle a few years ago and always love hearing about their time there. Even though i grew in a mostly rural place, city life has really grown on me.
Oh my god yes! Celine on the podcast! This is going to be fantastic! She always brightens up the room no matter the room. This quad-squad is for sure now a top contender for all time best lineup! You know it's going to be good when Jodi and Syd are there, then you throw in Bordin AND Celine! Well this night just got better! Edit- I think I speak for everyone, we want a full deep dive episode with Syd!
So I just watched "Children of Men" And it was the greatest film I've seen The cinematography, the production, acting on top. Oners/long takes are impressive, imagine the amount of effort they gave for those. I know they can do hidden cuts but i didnt notice a thing it's very smooth. The whole meaning of the film about humanity is amazing and it's perfectly expressed. I'll watch and read more analysis, breakdowns and behind the scenes of this. So cool Watch it too everyone!! Thank you brodin! Suggest us some more movies, or even make some more movies! i like the otv horror film, you've already got actors haha
me and my 2 best friends of 10 years are a trio and i wholeheartedly think the only reason it works so well is because they are sisters. if they weren't i don't think it would work as well. that way i don't ever feel like "well.. they spend more time together" because they live together and whenever we want to do something its almost always all three of us together
I think a way to help Syd how to understand is the movie 'Chaos Walking' with Tom Holland I feel that might be a good example to show, how non-aphantasia may talk to themselves? Also you could do a video with people who has aphantasia and who doesn't. So Syd, Rae and Scarra with Jobi Brodin and Starmitter.
The having to shit in bookstores thing is interesting. I don't really go to bookstores like ever, but I do write (I read too), and when I sit down and get into writing, I very often have to take a shit like 5 minutes in. I wonder if that's somewhat related to this phenomenon. I figured it just has to do with concentration and using my brain.
i think the no internal monologue thing can but doesn't have to be a part of aphantasia. as someone with aphantasia, i can hear a voice that is neither mine nor anyone else's as my internal monologue and its the only voice i can ever imagine in any (meaningful) capacity. i can't even tell you if the voice sounds more masculine or feminine. i do however also have adhd and the voice of my internal monologue does almost like overlap with it self sometimes. like if i start thinking of a new thing before i stop thinking about the previous thing it does overlap. i can't imagine any other sounds tho. just that one voice. if a song is stuck in my head i can't hear it. its more so that i can't stop thinking about it and can't stop wanting to hum/sing/click my tongue to the beat of that song. edit: i do talk out loud to myself a lot or mouth the words tho bcs its easier than an actual internal monologue lmao
I have aphantasia, not having a inner monologue as well seems impossible with how my brain works. My brain constantly has music going since I can't fill it with anything else, but it's typically just instrumentals since I can't do different voices in my head.
I also recently realized I have aphantasia and no internal monologue. For the longest time I didn't think when people were saying to picture something or visualize it, that they meant it literally, or that they actually heard their own voice in their head with an internal monologue. I always figured it was just a figure of speech.
As someone with aphantasia, it's nice to see representation!! I've got a slightly different experience with it as Sydney - I'm pretty good with directions although I still can't visualise things very well (eg folding a cube) and I don't really create things. I think, because of the lack of things going on in my head, I am more observant/notice more things haha - it's like a +2 to Perception LOL
what jodi, syd, celine and brodin type of dog would be without explanation just vibes Brodin: afgan hound Sydney: miniature pinscher Jodi: cavalier King Charles spaniel Celine: Japanese spitz
The pooping at the bookstore thing is because you probably read in the bathroom, whether it's in the tub or on the toilet so your mind associates books with bathroom. The same thing happened to me with tobacco pouches when I was 17. My parents would freak out if they saw me with one so during the day the only time I could have one was in the shower or pooping. As I got older every time I put a pouch in I had to poop or visa versa. Even after I quit I still had this mouth fixation thing so I had to chew gum for a long time... only when I was pooping.
I can confidently say that Sydney is a mood, I constantly daydream about random fantasies where I'm a badass saving people or just plain whooping ass.🤣
Sydney!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have exactly the same thing. I can be sitting at the table talking to someone and daydream at the same time. Or imagine a bus running through the window at a cafe and having like an actual physical reaction to this scenario that's in my head. That's precisely the reason I can't watch horror movies and play scary games. When I was 12 I would always imagine a thing with an eye from War of the Worlds crashing my window and taking me through it. Also same with music. I can play a song in my head and hear it in real world and be like "what is that?" and than understand that's an illusion, i didn't actually hear it in reality. Can hear a diffferent voice in my head though.
Been In Trio friendship since high school. it works for our personality. we complete each other. and I will always grateful to even have a best friend in this life. If I would say something about our tight friendship. never problem ourselves about money spend to your friend. your friend will always pay it back.
I was in my 30s when I discovered that aphantasia was even a thing. For those first three decades, I thought that "a mental image" or "picturing something" was just a figure of speech, rather than an actual literal mental image.
It's so wild to me that people can actually hear a voice when thinking. Also what particularly sucks about aphantasia is that I can't see people's faces, so if I ever miss someone I can't see their face or hear the voice...
I feel like road rage is very similar to raging in LoL solo q. The difference is that in solo q people can also type whereas on the road you are mostly limited to pings (honking).
Okay I don't know if this is the same thing as Sydney has, but you know those IKEA instructions that are all VISUAL, literally no text telling you "how to". I can't understand those. I need written instructions in order to perform a task correctly, I don't understand visual ones and literally everyone in my life are the opposite
The world isnt dying because it is overpopulated it is due to misallocation and wanton waste of resources, as well as corporate greed. More than 70% of all pollution is caused by billionaires to turn a profit not the average person forgetting to turn off a light or not recycling.
its interesting to think how well humans have evolved to work together, to most people aphantasia sounds like a disfunction, but if you think about it they could describe something in incredible detail to someone without aphantasia and that person could interpret the description into imagery for themselves and you can understand how that would be helpful for cavemen and the likes (and in modern times obvs but I was looking from an evolutionary perspective).
as someone with aphantasia i have absolutely no clue how it happens, but i also repeatedly ran into walls as a toddler so that might explain it a little
Them explaining to celine the "don't drop the soap" killed me lol
celine is too pure and precious for this world.
Jodi, Syd, Brodin AND Celine? That's too much pretty in one room. This title is indeed correct.
You ain’t wrong
@Ellie-sw3crbro drop the ao3 acc? wattpad fanfic where?
As someone with aphantasia I feel so validated by Sydney’s experience, and I might be learning in real time I don’t have an internal monologue
same
I find it so interesting, I have it as well, but I lean on my internal monologue even more due to it.
@@Ouzzel when I’m reading something there is my “voice” but I’m not hearing it, it’s just like in my head kinda chilling there 😭
@lxnely07 are you like a whale and your inner thoughts are feelings and images?? I always am confused about the distinction between inner monologs and those without xD like is it subtitles up in there?? Grunting?? Arithmatic?
@@Deathstar0wannabe LMAO it’s just darkness I don’t see or hear anything, but there is something producing words when I read sentences or think of something, when I think of something it’s in WORDS 😭😭
i love the deep dive into aphantasia. i feel like there should be some type of segment where sydney talks about her experience with aphantasia. i find it so interesting and i think others would be just as interested as me
Celine is just a pure ray of sunshine.
as someone who also has aphantasis and no internal monologue, it was so interesting to hear syndey talk about it! i never even knew other people could genuinely see things in their minds until about 2 years ago and it really boggled my mind.
I see Celine. I watch. So pure. You have to protect her at all cost. 😂
33:00 I love how the three took turns explaining to Celine what being pretty in jail and dropping the soap means. Haha!
Sydney is the perfect super spy. Because the enemy psychic spies cannot read her mind or predict her moves.
Not even 10 seconds in and Celine has made me smile lol she must have some kind of superpower
this might be the best episode yet!
I feel the exact same way as Sydney, with always writing a book in your head and saying words when imagining something. As a maladaptive daydreamer, it's kind of a problem when i found out other people imagine pictures in their head, but before that i had never experienced anything else.
There really needs to be a study on this. I had no idea there were ppl out there tht can't visualize images in their head
I used to have MaDD during lockdown. I think I daydreamt for like 7 hrs in one sitting.
I don't have it now tho.
Not me having a internal monologue about Sydney not having a internal monologue as I'm deep diving into internal monologues
Celine's back! Brodin has to make up for the lack of Toast to get the same amount of gaslighting as last time she was on!
They should do an OTV video series of becoming spies. So they already did the drifting to they got defensive driving down. They did parkour, they got that down, but now they need like knife throwing and like evasion tactics. It'd be a fun video where they try to put on disguises and hide from people tracking them.
Remember tht fruit cutting video with the sword
Brodin: "I don't see the connection" (referring to grey hounds)
Also Brodin: "I've always been compared to a gazelle or a cheetah. What dog would be like that?"
So happy Celine is on the podcast!
The talk about Syndeys Apahanthasia is so incredibly fasinating. I need more.
SYDNEY, THANK YOU! I now finally know about Aphantasia. I've been living with it my whole life and never thought to research the term for it. Wow. You just solved. a riddle for me.
I, too, don't have an internal monologue + Aphantasia. The first time I learned about this I was mind blown. Wow.
I love Jodi so much.. adding "and you've lost your soap" as if thats still just as bad as the other part of the act LOLOLOL
I can imagine tht its bad caus you may not hav the funds to buy another and your cell mate might not like you stinking up the space shit he might beat your ass if he even caught a small wiff of odor 😂
I started watching these podcast recently and I was saying to myself how it would be amazing if they posted a podcast today and I’m so happy I predicted it!
Can tell this will be a banger episode already
Loved this episode! Sean Gares also has aphantasia and he said it made him really good at pattern recognition and memorization (helped him a lot IGLing in cs and coaching in valorant)
Basically Jodi’s ideal spy person would just be Jett from valo 😂
Any podcast with Brodin is a podcast worth my time.
Did not know Sydney has aphantasia. I feel like it's kind of rarely talked about that people with it might not even know they have it. I only learned about it when I'm like an adult. Always thought "picture this" was a figure of speech and no one can actually picture things in their mind lol.
I feel there's so much going on with the brain tht no one knows or knows how to talk about much less do research on cause no ones talking about it
NGL, I randomly clicked on this episode. I haven't caught up with the last podcast for a while, and I'm glad I did. This episode has been so informative and entertaining. I didn't even know what aphantasia was, and I learned about it. Plus, now I respect Sydney more. By the way, your discussion about jail was hilarious.
I always look forward to OTV content during the holiday season! I’m so excited. I love the set decor.
Celineieee is so pure 😭protect her!!!
Every week I’m just waiting for a new otv podcast 😮💨😮💨😮💨
Brodin needs to be in the podcast more often.
I learned at 27 I have a comprehension learning disability. After reading the documentation on my unnamed disability I broke down for a week. Finally my struggles in how my brain thinks became clear and why back and forth conversations can be so hard randomly.
I only learned this cause I went back to college for a new career path and people thought I was undiagnosed add. It really turned my life around and able to know when my learning disability is showing itself and how to react positively instead of shutting down has been a godsend.
It is still a struggle but I get where Sydney is coming from having your whole life turned upside down and starting to make sense. It is a feeling so few people I'm sure experience but if you have healthy relationships around you it can be so refreshing and easy to change your day to day struggles.
I feel like an internal monologue is just audio memories that you replay in your head, basically like a little chatgpt in your head that can also generate images
syd having aphantasia n like describing it made me realize "wow im not the only one" cause i have aphantasia n didnt realize ALL of the symptoms
This was genuinely my most fav OTV Podcast episode
"today I am Brodin" just one of his many identities
Yea he slipped up thinking we wouldn't catch on the moment he started tlking abt spies
I wish i lived in the northwest area. I always hear such good things about seattle and San Francisco. I have a cousin who moved to Seattle a few years ago and always love hearing about their time there. Even though i grew in a mostly rural place, city life has really grown on me.
Love this group, and hearing about aphantasia. Super interesting, love the podcast!!!
Oh my god yes! Celine on the podcast! This is going to be fantastic! She always brightens up the room no matter the room. This quad-squad is for sure now a top contender for all time best lineup!
You know it's going to be good when Jodi and Syd are there, then you throw in Bordin AND Celine! Well this night just got better!
Edit- I think I speak for everyone, we want a full deep dive episode with Syd!
So today I found out I most likely have aphantasia too… But love all 4 of these people separately but especially together so much!!❤
Celine join OTV already!!
So I just watched "Children of Men"
And it was the greatest film I've seen
The cinematography, the production, acting on top. Oners/long takes are impressive, imagine the amount of effort they gave for those. I know they can do hidden cuts but i didnt notice a thing it's very smooth. The whole meaning of the film about humanity is amazing and it's perfectly expressed.
I'll watch and read more analysis, breakdowns and behind the scenes of this. So cool
Watch it too everyone!!
Thank you brodin! Suggest us some more movies, or even make some more movies! i like the otv horror film, you've already got actors haha
me and my 2 best friends of 10 years are a trio and i wholeheartedly think the only reason it works so well is because they are sisters. if they weren't i don't think it would work as well. that way i don't ever feel like "well.. they spend more time together" because they live together and whenever we want to do something its almost always all three of us together
Lmao some ppl(not me) would just call tht a duo friend group
otv podcasts are definitely the best part of the week
I think a way to help Syd how to understand is the movie 'Chaos Walking' with Tom Holland I feel that might be a good example to show, how non-aphantasia may talk to themselves? Also you could do a video with people who has aphantasia and who doesn't. So Syd, Rae and Scarra with Jobi Brodin and Starmitter.
The having to shit in bookstores thing is interesting. I don't really go to bookstores like ever, but I do write (I read too), and when I sit down and get into writing, I very often have to take a shit like 5 minutes in. I wonder if that's somewhat related to this phenomenon. I figured it just has to do with concentration and using my brain.
We need a pod on just sydneys story, its too interesting man.
i think the no internal monologue thing can but doesn't have to be a part of aphantasia. as someone with aphantasia, i can hear a voice that is neither mine nor anyone else's as my internal monologue and its the only voice i can ever imagine in any (meaningful) capacity. i can't even tell you if the voice sounds more masculine or feminine. i do however also have adhd and the voice of my internal monologue does almost like overlap with it self sometimes. like if i start thinking of a new thing before i stop thinking about the previous thing it does overlap. i can't imagine any other sounds tho. just that one voice. if a song is stuck in my head i can't hear it. its more so that i can't stop thinking about it and can't stop wanting to hum/sing/click my tongue to the beat of that song.
edit: i do talk out loud to myself a lot or mouth the words tho bcs its easier than an actual internal monologue lmao
Drink every time Celine says "Awwwww"
We'd be in a drunken stupor 😂
I just love listening to Celine and Jodi, bonus since they're together
I have aphantasia, not having a inner monologue as well seems impossible with how my brain works. My brain constantly has music going since I can't fill it with anything else, but it's typically just instrumentals since I can't do different voices in my head.
Can you do the rhythm of the singer with an instrument?
Very interesting. Hope this group gathers again. I’d like to hear more.😊
I also recently realized I have aphantasia and no internal monologue. For the longest time I didn't think when people were saying to picture something or visualize it, that they meant it literally, or that they actually heard their own voice in their head with an internal monologue. I always figured it was just a figure of speech.
Great episode y’all! This is a really fun group of people to listen to
As someone with aphantasia, it's nice to see representation!! I've got a slightly different experience with it as Sydney - I'm pretty good with directions although I still can't visualise things very well (eg folding a cube) and I don't really create things.
I think, because of the lack of things going on in my head, I am more observant/notice more things haha - it's like a +2 to Perception LOL
omg new episode with the girls and brodin 🥳
what jodi, syd, celine and brodin type of dog would be without explanation just vibes
Brodin: afgan hound
Sydney: miniature pinscher
Jodi: cavalier King Charles spaniel
Celine: Japanese spitz
Celine's so innocent... She must be protected at all costs...
we need an OTV spy short movie now
Celine is a Bichon Frise, which according to search using Google is a bunny dog
Lmao
38:12 Brodin just pitched a video concept. "OTV Bank heist!"
The pooping at the bookstore thing is because you probably read in the bathroom, whether it's in the tub or on the toilet so your mind associates books with bathroom. The same thing happened to me with tobacco pouches when I was 17. My parents would freak out if they saw me with one so during the day the only time I could have one was in the shower or pooping. As I got older every time I put a pouch in I had to poop or visa versa. Even after I quit I still had this mouth fixation thing so I had to chew gum for a long time... only when I was pooping.
we need MORE BRODINNNNN
I can confidently say that Sydney is a mood, I constantly daydream about random fantasies where I'm a badass saving people or just plain whooping ass.🤣
WAIT DOES THIS MEAN IM CRINGE!!!?
This is what I was waiting for. Thanks 😭🙏
NEED MORE THIS SQUAD'S PODCASTS
ANOTHER ONE WITH CEEEEELLLLLIIIIINNNNEEEEEEEEEE!!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉 YEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYY!!!!
Sydney!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have exactly the same thing. I can be sitting at the table talking to someone and daydream at the same time. Or imagine a bus running through the window at a cafe and having like an actual physical reaction to this scenario that's in my head. That's precisely the reason I can't watch horror movies and play scary games. When I was 12 I would always imagine a thing with an eye from War of the Worlds crashing my window and taking me through it. Also same with music. I can play a song in my head and hear it in real world and be like "what is that?" and than understand that's an illusion, i didn't actually hear it in reality. Can hear a diffferent voice in my head though.
ayyy Celine's baaackkkk!!! 🙌🙌🙌
Been In Trio friendship since high school. it works for our personality. we complete each other. and I will always grateful to even have a best friend in this life.
If I would say something about our tight friendship. never problem ourselves about money spend to your friend. your friend will always pay it back.
Brodin, please make them watch 'Children of Men'!!!
Wow, I never knew Celine was so precious 🥹
celine just fying being a cat lady lol
Wow Syd ex is a Filipino no wonder she's familiar with he cuisine. And Celine.... Always a pleasure to watch her adorableness ❤
more offlinetv podcast!
"but i'm always writing a book" WOAH
I was in my 30s when I discovered that aphantasia was even a thing. For those first three decades, I thought that "a mental image" or "picturing something" was just a figure of speech, rather than an actual literal mental image.
This was an amazing podcast!
Don't let Celine get to you Syd; I'm 40 and I still daydream about wacky stuff 😎
Thank you Sydney for sharing her day dream, I appreciate the representation
I found out I was dyslexic in my junior year of college and spent most of my educational career thinking I was just stupid :)
It's so wild to me that people can actually hear a voice when thinking. Also what particularly sucks about aphantasia is that I can't see people's faces, so if I ever miss someone I can't see their face or hear the voice...
Ok now thts just sad😢 how do you cope
I feel like road rage is very similar to raging in LoL solo q. The difference is that in solo q people can also type whereas on the road you are mostly limited to pings (honking).
Without spoiling anything. Goes ahead to explain the plot😂
Okay I don't know if this is the same thing as Sydney has, but you know those IKEA instructions that are all VISUAL, literally no text telling you "how to". I can't understand those. I need written instructions in order to perform a task correctly, I don't understand visual ones and literally everyone in my life are the opposite
The world isnt dying because it is overpopulated it is due to misallocation and wanton waste of resources, as well as corporate greed. More than 70% of all pollution is caused by billionaires to turn a profit not the average person forgetting to turn off a light or not recycling.
As consumers We keep buying their products and using resources.
With this podcast I just realized that apart from having aphantasia I don't have an internal monologue. Good to know more about myself.
what is jodi's hair care routine omg??! it looks so soft and silky !!!
its interesting to think how well humans have evolved to work together, to most people aphantasia sounds like a disfunction, but if you think about it they could describe something in incredible detail to someone without aphantasia and that person could interpret the description into imagery for themselves and you can understand how that would be helpful for cavemen and the likes (and in modern times obvs but I was looking from an evolutionary perspective).
I have aphantasia and the lack of inner monologue too! I also am really good at writing and music 🙈
ive recently been realizing that neuroscience and psychology are really fucking cool dawg
Sydney was why I learned I have aphantasia lol
Brodin is in fact too pretty for jail.
i like this podcast
Y’all should change the set up ! Like make it more comfy with a couch etc 🛋️
I agree, think it’d be good to make everyone loosen up a bit & be less formal. But they probably need the chairs because of the Secret Labs sponsor.
HES ALIVE, thank dog!!
That 7:09 bookstore thing. That happens to me.
Never steal from a small or local business but take anything that not nailed down from big corporations. That's been my stance since I was young.
as someone with aphantasia i have absolutely no clue how it happens, but i also repeatedly ran into walls as a toddler so that might explain it a little
Most people with aphantasia (me included) use details and descriptions to remember images and stuff like that
I see the title then I see brodin's pose... 😂😂😂