Thank you NightForce 1. I was impressed by the results myself and was actually kind of surprised too. For me, this is good information as it gets quite cold around here.
The effort is much appreciated in your presentation. It was fun watching you because you were equally as interested in the results as we were. In similar videos the presenter seems to have a favorite they are pulling for throughout the video. You genuinely wanted to know the results too. Nice work!
Thank you! It was a fun test albeit kind of cold. I really wanted to know which is best lubricant is best for my own use and to share that information with the shooting community.
@@sdkweber Yes we had - 20 real temps a not too long ago but it was 40s for the high a couple days ago. My sons and I took that afternoon to chronograph load development in 7 mag & 44 magnum.
@@guardianminifarm8005 Did you notice much decrease in MV at those temps? We shot some 5.56 loaded with Varget at 4° F and saw nearly no change. The Hodgdon Extreme powders are good that way.
@@sdkweber At 47 I didn't. At 20s with 7828 IMR4350 we did a bit. Temperature stable powders have performed as designed in my experience. Varget & H4350 are very impressive in 308. My load development is consistent from 70s in fall all the way to 20s-30s in winter.
AGL and Slip2000 are awesome I have used them for years and I use them during our -50c winters up here in Canada Both do not freeze at those extreme temps and both have a version of grease which I have entirely switched over to using as the grease does not freeze or gunk up in extreme temps it remains exactly where you applied it so gravity does not migrate it to the lowest spot over time To clean I just wipe off the grease that takes care of 85% of the grime then I wipe it down with the go juice oil or slip 2000 oil then wipe that down again that cleans it 100% then apply the grease either slip 2000 or AGL very thin grease using a hobby model paintbrush to leave a thin layer and I they work perfect in +30c canadian summers and -50c canadian winters and my collection of firearms that are mostly stored and not used much are perfectly lubed every year I take them out to inspect as again the grease does not migrate Both are also non toxic and don't smell and so ya just wanted to add the part about their grease versions which applied to where ever metal on metal slide they make my handguns my rifles and shotguns from lever action to bolt action to semi auto run smooth year round
Since I’m in south Alabama I can’t really do these extreme cold tests. I’ve been told standard rifle primers are not as reliable for ignition compared to magnum primers in extreme cold conditions. If y’all have any exceptionally cold spells this coming winters, please consider a comparison. (If they all still fire, maybe a chrono tests would reveal something)…
Good idea. I have not tested different primers at different temperatures but I do test my "finished" loads at both 0° F and 100° F (we get those extremes here). Quite a bit of difference in velocity even with temperature compensated powders. Maybe more or less with different primers but I do not know. Thanks for watching and posting.
Well, I just saw a video where a gentleman left slip 2000 EWL outside overnight and -20° weather and it froze solid so seven more degrees and that would’ve been toast
It can be confusing. I was using Breakthrough Battle Born as well as Break Free CLP. I tried to keep it straight and hope I did not say it wrong in the video.
I do not use grease on any of my guns except my 1911 where I use SLP2000 grease on the slide rails. Everything else gets oil (and not too much). Any moving parts getting boretech or battleborn. That's what I do have been doing since running this test. I hope it helps you.
@@sdkweber Thanks for the input. My group/organization uses the ALG oil and grease. There was a lecture on white lithium grease that can be used but for heavy/immediate use. I was looking for something that can be applied and it sit for a little while until that time. I was going to frog lube with heat the pistol slide or other none moving/metal to metal parts. Thanks for testing in these conditions.
@@noobpyrotech9991 I am nearly certain that a lot of oils and greases will work perfectly well under normal (warm) conditions. The problems start showing up when it gets really cold... or when it gets really hot (cooking off) and dusty (grease and excess oil will gum up).
@@sdkweber Thanks for the input. I am in the Midwest and go in and out of cold temps to indoor winter temps. Also exposed to the various elements. I know the best fix to this is regular maintenance…and I came to this conclusion/epiphany when trying to cut corners….lol.
I never heard of Eezox before. I did a quick search and found it though. I see it is a CLP type product. Too bad they don't provide some samples to give it a try. Thanks for posting this.
Actually a very nice presentation, clear and precise. Thank you for your time and effort
You are welcome. Thank you for watching and posting.
A very interesting video and something I've wondered about!
Thank you NightForce 1. I was impressed by the results myself and was actually kind of surprised too. For me, this is good information as it gets quite cold around here.
The effort is much appreciated in your presentation. It was fun watching you because you were equally as interested in the results as we were. In similar videos the presenter seems to have a favorite they are pulling for throughout the video. You genuinely wanted to know the results too. Nice work!
Thank you! It was a fun test albeit kind of cold. I really wanted to know which is best lubricant is best for my own use and to share that information with the shooting community.
Best test I have seen. Thank you sir.
Thank you!
Appreciate the demonstration
Thanks. If I recall correctly, I bet you are accustom to the cold weather in your neck of the woods.
@@sdkweber Yes we had - 20 real temps a not too long ago but it was 40s for the high a couple days ago. My sons and I took that afternoon to chronograph load development in 7 mag & 44 magnum.
@@guardianminifarm8005 Did you notice much decrease in MV at those temps? We shot some 5.56 loaded with Varget at 4° F and saw nearly no change. The Hodgdon Extreme powders are good that way.
@@sdkweber At 47 I didn't. At 20s with 7828 IMR4350 we did a bit. Temperature stable powders have performed as designed in my experience. Varget & H4350 are very impressive in 308. My load development is consistent from 70s in fall all the way to 20s-30s in winter.
@@guardianminifarm8005 That is good to know about H4350 as well. Thanks.
AGL and Slip2000 are awesome I have used them for years and I use them during our -50c winters up here in Canada
Both do not freeze at those extreme temps and both have a version of grease which I have entirely switched over to using as the grease does not freeze or gunk up in extreme temps it remains exactly where you applied it so gravity does not migrate it to the lowest spot over time
To clean I just wipe off the grease that takes care of 85% of the grime then I wipe it down with the go juice oil or slip 2000 oil then wipe that down again that cleans it 100% then apply the grease either slip 2000 or AGL very thin grease using a hobby model paintbrush to leave a thin layer and I they work perfect in +30c canadian summers and -50c canadian winters and my collection of firearms that are mostly stored and not used much are perfectly lubed every year I take them out to inspect as again the grease does not migrate
Both are also non toxic and don't smell and so ya just wanted to add the part about their grease versions which applied to where ever metal on metal slide they make my handguns my rifles and shotguns from lever action to bolt action to semi auto run smooth year round
Thanks Brian for the good info. I too use the Slip2000 grease. It is excellent stuff.
Since I’m in south Alabama I can’t really do these extreme cold tests. I’ve been told standard rifle primers are not as reliable for ignition compared to magnum primers in extreme cold conditions. If y’all have any exceptionally cold spells this coming winters, please consider a comparison. (If they all still fire, maybe a chrono tests would reveal something)…
Good idea. I have not tested different primers at different temperatures but I do test my "finished" loads at both 0° F and 100° F (we get those extremes here). Quite a bit of difference in velocity even with temperature compensated powders. Maybe more or less with different primers but I do not know.
Thanks for watching and posting.
Well, I just saw a video where a gentleman left slip 2000 EWL outside overnight and -20° weather and it froze solid so seven more degrees and that would’ve been toast
That is interesting, thanks for sharing that info. The winner in our test was the Bore Tech lubricant.
You said "Break Free CLP", but you're using "Breakthrough CLP"
It can be confusing. I was using Breakthrough Battle Born as well as Break Free CLP. I tried to keep it straight and hope I did not say it wrong in the video.
Would you recommend the go juice for pistols and the Alg grease for rifles?
I do not use grease on any of my guns except my 1911 where I use SLP2000 grease on the slide rails. Everything else gets oil (and not too much). Any moving parts getting boretech or battleborn. That's what I do have been doing since running this test. I hope it helps you.
@@sdkweber Thanks for the input. My group/organization uses the ALG oil and grease. There was a lecture on white lithium grease that can be used but for heavy/immediate use. I was looking for something that can be applied and it sit for a little while until that time. I was going to frog lube with heat the pistol slide or other none moving/metal to metal parts. Thanks for testing in these conditions.
@@noobpyrotech9991 I am nearly certain that a lot of oils and greases will work perfectly well under normal (warm) conditions. The problems start showing up when it gets really cold... or when it gets really hot (cooking off) and dusty (grease and excess oil will gum up).
@@sdkweber Thanks for the input. I am in the Midwest and go in and out of cold temps to indoor winter temps. Also exposed to the various elements. I know the best fix to this is regular maintenance…and I came to this conclusion/epiphany when trying to cut corners….lol.
@@noobpyrotech9991 Experience is a great teacher. :)
What about the Alg 0000 grease any experience?
I have not tried that grease. I have tried several greases though and so far I would say EWG by Slip2000 seems best. Have you tried EWG?
@@sdkweber Never tried grease I just ordered the slip2000. The alg was out of stock. I always used oil but a few guys at the range swear by grease.
@@Honda1kThere are applications for grease, but primarily I use oils. I do like grease for the slide rails on my 1911s however.
Eezox is one of the best
I never heard of Eezox before. I did a quick search and found it though. I see it is a CLP type product. Too bad they don't provide some samples to give it a try.
Thanks for posting this.
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No promotions or sales marketing at all. I purchased every one of these oils and ran the test absolutely fairly.