Who else would you like for us to have on the Producers Couch? Thanks everyone who joined us for this wonderful discussion with our friend Michael Beinhorn!
Mike Thorne was responsible for some major hits and quite influential. He also had a lot to do with the synclavier. Besides his work as a producer I’m pretty sure he signed the Sex Pistols.
Michael is simply wonderful. We are the DIRECT recipients of his genius and kindness. The albums and artists he produced along with TWO of our songs being analyzed in pre-production by him have had a HUGE positive impact on our creative journey. We are SO grateful for ALL of his contributions. Thank you, Michael!
That was a lovely chat! Warren's character always makes the music industry less intimidating, which is what you would expect from a leader. Great work Warren and Michael, thank you both.
I have only sen Michaels name written in various places, I remembered it because I love michael beihn from aliens and terminator. Michael beinhorn is probably the person who I admire more then any other person ever, and Ive only found out about who he is from these videos. Michael is the most well spoken artist I have ever seen, and he doesnt hve to speak in a non-risk way. he can say whatever he wants. This is the best thing that I have ever seen, the videos youve done with him, I mean.
I love hearing Michael Beinhorn’s insight into music production. He was kind enough to give me feedback on a production I was working on and I’ll treasure that forever!
Wow! Beinhorn is one of my favorite producers of all time, he produced my favorite albums yet I still didnt knew he was the creator of the Fresh sound that you hear on literally every hip hop record and on every scratches in the world. I always thought that originated from Doug E Fresh. That is mindblowing. I had no idea he was actually responsable for putting hip hop on the map in the early 80s. I had no idea that Herbie Hancock basically kickstarted hip hop into the mainstream along with Sugarhill with Rockit that is basically produced by Beinhorn and Material. That is mindblowing. This livestream was golden!
Mew's "And the Glass Handed Kites" is probably the greatest album ever made. Wish it was brought up more in conversation. Loved the doc the band made about the production process.
Nice to see Mew's Glass Handed Kites mentioned, it's very hard to find any information about the recording of this album, so thank you for Warren. Weirdly, the 2 albums that I have got lost in the most in my life have been Superunknown and Glass Handed Kites. only realised over the last few years that Michael produced both.
Thanks for sharing, gentlemen! I bought Michael's book a while ago and it's a fantastic resource for artists and creators regardless of where they are on their journey. -chaz
Loved the "rats at the 930 club" mention. I was working with a band in 1989. Their first show of the tour was at the 930. They had just received a dozen (or more, I forget) Marshall cabs but no road cases for them. I had to stand in the rat-infested alley behind the club and turn the Marshall boxes into cases while hundreds of rats ran over my feet!
Warren, thank you so much for sharing such a GEM of a conversation with us, you're amazing and so NEEDED for us rock musicians today. Sending love and respect from SP, Brazil!
Soundgarden is my favorite band and micheal beinhorn got the best out of them in the studio. Superunknown is the best grunge album of all time . I know it was a difficult record to make because we fought with the band but micheal must feel Vindicated because Superunknown is brilliant!!!!!
Wonderful interview.. caught it late but have always been interested in the sonic mud that is 4th of july from superunknown…seems as though there is more lo mid action than anyone could possibly manage and it just was fine tuned in a way that must have been a challenge. Thank you Warren, you are wonderful as always.
There are some really interesting points being brought up here. I think a more realistic way of looking at plagiarism cases would be to ask, "Did anyone buy Blurred Lines instead of Got To Give It Up?" Probably not, they just bought it because they liked it, I have copies of both tracks and I don't think that there was any plagiarism, yes, a similar vibe but no deliberate copying...if they had sampled the percussion track, that would be a different matter.
Hi There this is Mr C. T. Boxill-Harris, I was wondering if they need to do the exact same version of Everybody's Got To Learn Sometime, why don’t they just Replace the Synthesiser String Sound to an Musette Accordion sound, and also Replace the Xylophone Sound to an 3 Times More Deeper Chime Bell or Even a 4 Times More Deeper Still Drum Sound, Because it is Still my Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Favourite Song Ever Since I was about 11 Years of Age Thank You 😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😅👍😉👍😉👏😅👍😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏😅👍😉👍😉👏👏
Would love to hear an extended view on Mother’s Milk by Michael, as we recently also have heard some parts in these RHCP podcasts for the new album... 10/10 Cheers from Paris, PJ
Awesome🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻 Michael is the best, lots of music that I familiar with😊 Love his work. I think Material were the first to use and record Whitney Houston as a lead vocalist before she did her own thing check out Memories on Materials One Down album
At the beginning of the chat you mentioned seeing H.R. on stage, you saw Bad Brains live? I never saw them, that must have been cool. Dr. Know is a great guitarist.
@@Producelikeapro He, Eric Erlandson, and Billy Corgan put that record together. Not sure if you already have on the channel, but I'd love to hear Beinhorn's recollections of that process.
👏🏻👏🏻I think this one might be your best one yet Warren 👍🏻👍🏻 Unfortunately, I missed this when it was live. I didn't really know anything about M.B. prior to this. I did listen to an interview he did on Bobby Owsinski's Inner Circle a few years ago though. It appears that M.B. and I have a few things in common: we're both "Red Sea Pedestrians" (a little Life of Brian for ya 🤣) from the New York Metro area, and we're not particularly enamored with the SM57/Marshall combination; and we both both have CBGBs experiences: him as a performer, and me as an intern when I was Music Business major at New York University in the early '90s. Damn that bathroom was nasty ‼️ 😆 And Hilly's disgusting dog-💩ing all over the damn club ‼️ 🤢😡🤯 And Joey Ramone sometimes popping in for day time meetings with Louise during brief moments of lucidity and maybe even briefly sober as well. 🤪🤣 We all agree about the wonders of the U67, and the M 160 as well. I'm glad to see that M.B. appreciates heavy strings and understands the sound the sound properties. All of the vintage guitars we love originally came with .013 or .012 high E strings, .056 low E strings, and would G strings; most of the time, flat-wounds. I use .012 and .013 sets on all of my guitars. Regarding Song Copyrights and Publishing I have very strong points of view on this topic. I basically agree with everything you both said here, but a few things: -It believe it has to be established the accused plagiarizer did so knowingly and with intent; however, that could have changed. Which reminds me of what Bob Feldman said when he was sitting right next to me at the Songwriters Guild in New York: "Plagiarism: A great tool." -We all borrow, and we all want our influences to be known (to some degree anyway). -Everyone should receive what they are rightfully due: credit; credit; payment; etc. -As much as we might love Jimmy Page, he is definitely a plagiarist. The two Willie Dixon songs aside, he deliberately stole "Dazed and Confused" from Jake Holmes after seeing him perform it at a club in Greenwich Village while on tour with The Yardbirds in 1968; conversely, "Stairway To Heaven" was clearly influenced by Randy California's "Taurus," performed by his band, Spirit, but definitely not "stollen." One has to wonder if the title was copped from Neil Sedaka's 1960 hit, "Stairway To Heaven," but a title can't be copyrighted, nor should it be. -"He's So fine vs. "My Sweet Lord" ? I call BULL-SHIT on that one 🤬 -"Got To give It up" vs. "Blurred Lines" ? Well, the lines are definitely blurred; but I would have to side in favor of Marvin Gaye's Estate: to my ears, it wasn't about it simply being an influence (subconscious or not), or a rhythm or "groove," but it was musically too close to Marvin Gaye's original. I was working with a singer/songwriter/performer from New Zealand a few years ago, who had an original that was a dead “copy” of “Black Night” from Deep Purple. Richie Blackmore arguably copied it from Rising Ricky Nelson’s version “Summertime.” The artist in question claimed he never heard “Black Night” until I had him listen to it. Thank you as always Warren ❣️🙏🏻
Copyright is innocent. There is nothing wrong with owning something you create, what is wrong is the habit for vexatious litigation and the way stuff gets licensed. Classical composers have been quoting each other for centuries; Folk music and, as someone else mentioned, Reggae have been sharing and re-using tunes for decades, so the onus really should be on proving that the phrase in dispute is unique and could not have been arrived at by independent means to a certain extent. Arguing about musical ideas shorter than a full phrase is rather pointless for this reason - as Michael said melody and lyrics, fine; you can copyright a whole tune. It's equally important to give credit where it's due, I think that alone can make the difference between a quote and a steal. If listeners can follow the paper-trail lineage back to the original everyone can have a slice of the cake.
I've been trying to watch this video for the last 16 hours, many hours after it's initial stream and it continues to freeze at around the 9:30 mark. Even if I try on different devices, close and reload the video, same issue each time. I'm not having this roblem with any other video on TH-cam on any device except this video. Anyone else?
I just checked and it rolled through 9.30. Not sure what could be causing it at your end. That’s very strange! I’ve never heard of such a thing where one person get view past a certain point of a video!
Who else would you like for us to have on the Producers Couch? Thanks everyone who joined us for this wonderful discussion with our friend Michael Beinhorn!
Herbie Hancock!
Mike Thorne was responsible for some major hits and quite influential. He also had a lot to do with the synclavier. Besides his work as a producer I’m pretty sure he signed the Sex Pistols.
I always enjoy any time you spend with Eddie Kramer. Tom Werman would be awesome as well!!
Rick Rubin
ENO!!
I love how Michael carefully chooses his words. He does sound like a fantastically smart guy.
Absolutely! Michael is a very smart guy
Michael is officially the most laid-back producer you've ever interviewed! :D
Haha yes, indeed Tim!
hahaha perfect
Michael is simply wonderful. We are the DIRECT recipients of his genius and kindness. The albums and artists he produced along with TWO of our songs being analyzed in pre-production by him have had a HUGE positive impact on our creative journey. We are SO grateful for ALL of his contributions. Thank you, Michael!
Holly Fuck, Michael is the only honest person in the business. He's a person, a real one. He's not afraid because you asked him!!
He's a real one, yes! We should have Michael come back soon
Thanks again for bringing these wonderful people to us Warren!
Thanks ever so much Dave!
superunknown one of the best albums ever.
Masterpiece!
That was a lovely chat! Warren's character always makes the music industry less intimidating, which is what you would expect from a leader. Great work Warren and Michael, thank you both.
Thanks ever so much A G! That's very kind of you!
@@Producelikeapro You are incredible Warren! Please keep doing more content!
@@AG-wg4zi thanks! I really appreciate the support!
I can listen to interviews with Michael all day. Superb interview!!
Thanks ever so much
I have only sen Michaels name written in various places, I remembered it because I love michael beihn from aliens and terminator. Michael beinhorn is probably the person who I admire more then any other person ever, and Ive only found out about who he is from these videos. Michael is the most well spoken artist I have ever seen, and he doesnt hve to speak in a non-risk way. he can say whatever he wants. This is the best thing that I have ever seen, the videos youve done with him, I mean.
Wow, thank you so much for sharing
I love hearing Michael Beinhorn’s insight into music production. He was kind enough to give me feedback on a production I was working on and I’ll treasure that forever!
That’s great to hear! Yea, Michael is very generous with his time and talents!
Fantastic live stream! Yes more please Warren. You two interacted brilliantly, and I’m sure another convo would be as riveting and fun! Thank you.
Wow!! Thanks ever so much
guy has made some of my favorite albums of all time, always great to hear more stuff from Michael
Thanks ever so much
@@Producelikeaproand thank you for the top class content as always Warren!
@@TheEnderBand You Rock!
Nothing but respect for mr.beinhorn so intelligent and articulate love the stories he tells about producing!!!!
He's such a laid back guy
Haha yes, indeed!
Always love the conversation between you and Michael Beinhorn. So much knowledge flowing between the two of you.
Wow! Thanks ever so much
What a great sit down. Always nice to have such a wonderful chat
Thanks ever so much Conor!!
Bustin' Out by Material, with Nona Hendrix on vocals. Top record!
Wow! Beinhorn is one of my favorite producers of all time, he produced my favorite albums yet I still didnt knew he was the creator of the Fresh sound that you hear on literally every hip hop record and on every scratches in the world. I always thought that originated from Doug E Fresh. That is mindblowing. I had no idea he was actually responsable for putting hip hop on the map in the early 80s. I had no idea that Herbie Hancock basically kickstarted hip hop into the mainstream along with Sugarhill with Rockit that is basically produced by Beinhorn and Material. That is mindblowing. This livestream was golden!
Thanks ever so much! Always an amazing treat to talk to Michael!
These Guys are great! Really respect both of their perspectives on the biz!
Mew's "And the Glass Handed Kites" is probably the greatest album ever made. Wish it was brought up more in conversation. Loved the doc the band made about the production process.
My top 28…
Beinhorn, Rock, Richardson, Martin, Miller, Lange, Page, Rubin, Ezrin, Reznor, Spector, Rodgers, Albini, Dowd, Baker, Mouse, Phillips, Wilson, Douglas, Fairbairn, Vig, Thomas, Lanois, Eno, Visconti, Jones, Horn, Dre.
Done?
Chime in…
Thanks
Nice to see Mew's Glass Handed Kites mentioned, it's very hard to find any information about the recording of this album, so thank you for Warren. Weirdly, the 2 albums that I have got lost in the most in my life have been Superunknown and Glass Handed Kites. only realised over the last few years that Michael produced both.
Fantastic! Glad I’ve been able to help! Michael is amazing
Man.
Always a blast to watch you guys converse about so many great things.
Thank you Warren.
Love your channel.
Excellent show. Michael is so knowledgeable and insightful.
Thanks Natasha!
Another great discussion, between two top gents. Excellent. Another discussion with Michael would be terrific!👍
Thanks for sharing, gentlemen! I bought Michael's book a while ago and it's a fantastic resource for artists and creators regardless of where they are on their journey. -chaz
Yes! Amazing book!
Michael’s work is UNTOUCHABLE 🤘😎
He’s amazing
Beinhorn has great stories and experiences and insights! thanks again Produce Like a Pro!
Thanks ever so much Geoff!
His work with Mew is masterful!!!!
He’s an amazing talent
How does this interview only have 16k views!?
Loved the "rats at the 930 club" mention. I was working with a band in 1989. Their first show of the tour was at the 930. They had just received a dozen (or more, I forget) Marshall cabs but no road cases for them. I had to stand in the rat-infested alley behind the club and turn the Marshall boxes into cases while hundreds of rats ran over my feet!
Haha that’s amazing! Thanks ever so much for sharing!
Awesome chat. Thanks so much for sharing the knowledge and stories Michael!
Thanks ever so much! Michael Rules!
Warren, thank you so much for sharing such a GEM of a conversation with us, you're amazing and so NEEDED for us rock musicians today. Sending love and respect from SP, Brazil!
Thanks for listening Gabriel!
always such fun to watch/listen to Warren interact with his peers
thanks guys!!
Thanks ever so much Adrian!
this was a fantastic interview, thanks so much Michael & Warren!
Thanks ever so much Willem!
Soundgarden is my favorite band and micheal beinhorn got the best out of them in the studio. Superunknown is the best grunge album of all time . I know it was a difficult record to make because we fought with the band but micheal must feel Vindicated because Superunknown is brilliant!!!!!
Wonderful interview.. caught it late but have always been interested in the sonic mud that is 4th of july from superunknown…seems as though there is more lo mid action than anyone could possibly manage and it just was fine tuned in a way that must have been a challenge. Thank you Warren, you are wonderful as always.
Thanks Chris! I really appreciate it!
Brilliant interview, Warren. Thank you.
Thanks ever so much! Really glad you enjoyed it!
There are some really interesting points being brought up here. I think a more realistic way of looking at plagiarism cases would be to ask, "Did anyone buy Blurred Lines instead of Got To Give It Up?" Probably not, they just bought it because they liked it, I have copies of both tracks and I don't think that there was any plagiarism, yes, a similar vibe but no deliberate copying...if they had sampled the percussion track, that would be a different matter.
Thanks ever so much for sharing your insight. I really appreciate it
Vancouver Island is the bomb I'm from greater vancouver area. It's beautiful !
Hi Warren, Michael, great interview, very interesting, thank you, be well, all the best.
Thanks ever so much
Hi There this is Mr C. T. Boxill-Harris, I was wondering if they need to do the exact same version of Everybody's Got To Learn Sometime, why don’t they just Replace the Synthesiser String Sound to an Musette Accordion sound, and also Replace the Xylophone Sound to an 3 Times More Deeper Chime Bell or Even a 4 Times More Deeper Still Drum Sound, Because it is Still my Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Favourite Song Ever Since I was about 11 Years of Age Thank You 😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏👏😅👍😉👍😉👏😅👍😉👍😉👏👏😉👍😉👏😅👍😉👍😉👏👏
Would love to hear an extended view on Mother’s Milk by Michael, as we recently also have heard some parts in these RHCP podcasts for the new album... 10/10 Cheers from Paris, PJ
Marvellous idea!
Awesome🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻 Michael is the best, lots of music that I familiar with😊 Love his work. I think Material were the first to use and record Whitney Houston as a lead vocalist before she did her own thing check out Memories on Materials One Down album
Thanks ever so much Gareth! I agree, Michael is the best!
Pentagrammaspin is an additional track by Paragong on the Virgin 2007 re-master
Fantastic!
Great stuff
Thanks ever so much
Thanks for this!! I missed the live :( I wanted to ask about the guitar setups for the Ozzmosis album.
Next time!
Superunknown was a game changer for music in general. IMO
that was ace, thanks.
Hey Warren, how did you get rid of the buzz? I have a similar issue in my home studio so any ideas would be much appreciated!
At the beginning of the chat you mentioned seeing H.R. on stage, you saw Bad Brains live? I never saw them, that must have been cool. Dr. Know is a great guitarist.
Yes! Bad Brains at the Marquee! Was amazing
His production on Celebrity Skin is very impressive!
Yes! It’s amazing
@@Producelikeapro He, Eric Erlandson, and Billy Corgan put that record together. Not sure if you already have on the channel, but I'd love to hear Beinhorn's recollections of that process.
@@KosOrSomeSayKosmo we did have a video up, unfortunately it was blocked. It’s inside our Academy I believe
more people should take interviews laying down.
👏🏻👏🏻I think this one might be your best one yet Warren 👍🏻👍🏻
Unfortunately, I missed this when it was live.
I didn't really know anything about M.B. prior to this. I did listen to an interview he did on Bobby Owsinski's Inner Circle a few years ago though.
It appears that M.B. and I have a few things in common: we're both "Red Sea Pedestrians" (a little Life of Brian for ya 🤣) from the New York Metro area, and we're not particularly enamored with the SM57/Marshall combination; and we both both have CBGBs experiences: him as a performer, and me as an intern when I was Music Business major at New York University in the early '90s. Damn that bathroom was nasty ‼️ 😆 And Hilly's disgusting dog-💩ing all over the damn club ‼️ 🤢😡🤯 And Joey Ramone sometimes popping in for day time meetings with Louise during brief moments of lucidity and maybe even briefly sober as well. 🤪🤣
We all agree about the wonders of the U67, and the M 160 as well.
I'm glad to see that M.B. appreciates heavy strings and understands the sound the sound properties. All of the vintage guitars we love originally came with .013 or .012 high E strings, .056 low E strings, and would G strings; most of the time, flat-wounds. I use .012 and .013 sets on all of my guitars.
Regarding Song Copyrights and Publishing
I have very strong points of view on this topic. I basically agree with everything you both said here, but a few things:
-It believe it has to be established the accused plagiarizer did so knowingly and with intent; however, that could have changed. Which reminds me of what Bob Feldman said when he was sitting right next to me at the Songwriters Guild in New York: "Plagiarism: A great tool."
-We all borrow, and we all want our influences to be known (to some degree anyway).
-Everyone should receive what they are rightfully due: credit; credit; payment; etc.
-As much as we might love Jimmy Page, he is definitely a plagiarist. The two Willie Dixon songs aside, he deliberately stole "Dazed and Confused" from Jake Holmes after seeing him perform it at a club in Greenwich Village while on tour with The Yardbirds in 1968; conversely, "Stairway To Heaven" was clearly influenced by Randy California's "Taurus," performed by his band, Spirit, but definitely not "stollen." One has to wonder if the title was copped from Neil Sedaka's 1960 hit, "Stairway To Heaven," but a title can't be copyrighted, nor should it be.
-"He's So fine vs. "My Sweet Lord" ? I call BULL-SHIT on that one 🤬
-"Got To give It up" vs. "Blurred Lines" ? Well, the lines are definitely blurred; but I would have to side in favor of Marvin Gaye's Estate: to my ears, it wasn't about it simply being an influence (subconscious or not), or a rhythm or "groove," but it was musically too close to Marvin Gaye's original.
I was working with a singer/songwriter/performer from New Zealand a few years ago, who had an original that was a dead “copy” of “Black Night” from Deep Purple. Richie Blackmore arguably copied it from Rising Ricky Nelson’s version “Summertime.” The artist in question claimed he never heard “Black Night” until I had him listen to it.
Thank you as always Warren ❣️🙏🏻
Fantastic stream,i love you ♥️
You Rock Dnoiz!
Hi Warren just wanted to say I loved you in Fateful Findings
This was SO SO good. What did we do to deserve this?!
Haha thanks Lee! Well not what you did! Ha
Chuck did know we was getting ripped off but he said he had no choice. It was better to get 1 percent of something than zero percent of nothing.
I read he was given a Cadillac for his publishing and then it was repossessed
Beinhorn. Yeh. Lasswell and the Brooklyn shit back in da 80's. yup.
Copyright is innocent. There is nothing wrong with owning something you create, what is wrong is the habit for vexatious litigation and the way stuff gets licensed. Classical composers have been quoting each other for centuries; Folk music and, as someone else mentioned, Reggae have been sharing and re-using tunes for decades, so the onus really should be on proving that the phrase in dispute is unique and could not have been arrived at by independent means to a certain extent. Arguing about musical ideas shorter than a full phrase is rather pointless for this reason - as Michael said melody and lyrics, fine; you can copyright a whole tune. It's equally important to give credit where it's due, I think that alone can make the difference between a quote and a steal. If listeners can follow the paper-trail lineage back to the original everyone can have a slice of the cake.
Thanks ever so much for sharing your opinion! I really appreciate your insight
I've been trying to watch this video for the last 16 hours, many hours after it's initial stream and it continues to freeze at around the 9:30 mark. Even if I try on different devices, close and reload the video, same issue each time. I'm not having this roblem with any other video on TH-cam on any device except this video. Anyone else?
I just checked and it rolled through 9.30. Not sure what could be causing it at your end. That’s very strange! I’ve never heard of such a thing where one person get view past a certain point of a video!
Having exact same issue @ 9:30 with the buffering
- I just dragged the cursor past this sticking point and it does start playing again
Maybe it was explained and I missed it. Is Michael okay? He looks very relaxed.
Yeah, if anyone knows , please share.
I had the same question.
@Zack Darce I think he is just relaxing and treating the interview as a chat with his friend.
@@jemwand2530 haha exactly! Can’t think of anything negative about him on a reclining chair!
Did he hurt his back?
😊😃💕
Thanks ever so much