This is one of the best snare drum available for all the reasons Shane shared on the video. I used to have one back in the day and ended up selling it before I got to explore with different heads and tunings. I remember it being bright and extremely sensitive, sloppy ghost notes were clear as so it demands you to have control. Glad you guys made this video, I am thinking getting one of these at some point and that 8” is something else!!
I'm a sucker for 5" snares, but man that 6.5" really sang to me in a way drums of that depth usually don't. And that 8", holy moly. That's a really special sound. Hope I can get my hands on one of these sometime.
Congrats on coming up with this snare drum concept with Canopus! They should have dedicated the first one to you with the Serial #00001 with a badge on it for the Drum Center of Portsmouth. Then, you should have made a video of you playing it, afterwards placing it in the DCP museum. What a piece of art and workmanship! That 14x8 is a seriously well made drum with the awesome sound to prove it. Kudos, Shane!
such beautiful round tone on all of them. I'd want one in each of the sizes, but if only one I think it would have to be the 8. It sounded the best through all tuning ranges to my ear. Plus I've always just loved 8" snares. I get that in a mix you couldn't discern the difference between those and other great snare drums that may be cheaper etc...but that's not really the point in my opinion. It's what I love about Japanese craftsmanship. Many times they just want to see how close you can get to perfection in every regard. Not just sound but the very idea of crafting a drum with no glue from a single piece of wood that is an art piece in itself as much as it is a functional object. It's an amazing accomplishment and worth every penny, in my opinion, to give these craftsmen the opportunity to try to achieve this stuff. For things like this, the people who buy these drums are more like "patrons of the arts" who commission works (as you did in this situation...bravo!) and allow these artist/craftsmen the ability to do something they'd probably never be able to do otherwise.
Awesome. These are definitely on my radar but always wondered about the different sizes - I think this might be the only clip with like for like recording anywhere. Top work! Might have to buy from you guys too seeing as our local distributor won’t supply costs even when asked 😂
I shouldn't be surprised (because Shane is usually spot on with his advice on drums) but I am in that the 8" was my favorite as far as sound. I thought it would be the 6.5 when I first saw the three size options.
I felt the same thing when I first got into Doc Sweeney stave snares. So much projection and sustain you’d think you were playing a metal snare. But then you go low and it still has the woody thunk that metal can lack. Thick, lightweight, homogeneous shells
Why is there a mold needed for a shell made from a hollowed out log? Is the mold necessary to further season and hold the shells shape after the outside of the shell is cut on the lathe?
For some reason, I tend to only like the sound of deep snares when recorded, so while I preferred the 8" in this video (although they were all incredible), I'd probably like the 5" the best if I played them unmic'd.
I’ve been watching your videos of these drums over the years. The 8” version is truly incredible. Does it sound as meaty in person when you play it as it does here mic’d up?
That's some gorgeous timber right there!!........gotta say I was most impressed with the 5". It remained full at all tunings with no choking. The 6.5" is great, and the low tuning was fuller as expected. The 8" was just, more, as expected. The high tuning didn't strike me any more than the 5", which is a testament to the smallest drum ;:-) ......the 5" would be my pick. All are fantastic instruments! ;:-)
this is the first video where i actually notice some of the nuances of these drums. the thing that gets me about canopus is that they seemingly spare no expense on the shells and the lugs yet the strainer is the same OEM model you get on a pearl sensitone. canopus needs to step it up with a proprietary strainer and butt or at least put a trick strainer on there so it's comparable quality as the lugs.
Close mics on the snare are a Shure SM57 and an Oktava MK-012. The overheads are a big part of the sound though and that is a pair of Earthwork SR25s. The mic in the foreground is a Shure KSM32 and that is acting a bit as a mono kit mic and is blended in underneath the rest of the mics.
I would love to know why companies cut their snare edges so they come so close to the head’s collar. I’m no master drum builder but after building a few kits I really feel they bearing edges need to be off the collar to resonate more.
@@metrodrumstv I’ve found the opposite from my experience. 🤷 courses.physics.illinois.edu/phys406/sp2017/NSF_REU_Reports/2003_reu/Eric_Macaulay_Final_Paper.pdf
My favorite Zelkova snare size is ALL three of them. ALL three sounded best at higher tunings because there was the least amount of ringing and unwanted overtones. Since ALL three drums were tuned "wide open" (no muffling of the drumhead) the lower and mid-range tunings produced ringing and some unwanted overtones. Some drummers prefer that open sound, I myself do not. You didn't mention what brand and model of drumheads were used, so I assumed they were probably Remo Coated Ambassadors. However, as you know that ringing and unwanted overtones can be remedied with specific drumheads made by Aquarian, Evans and Remo, maybe even DW. Just like your video on the 10 favorite snare drum picks by DCP's staff, I want to own and PLAY ALL three Zelkovas and those 10 snare drums. I can't help it if I'm an EQUIPMENT SLUT. I'M A GEAR WHORE. Le😎 Ameruba 🇵🇭 🇺🇸 🇨🇺 Percussionist / Drummer
IMO the all time snare is the 12 Lug Sonor Signature Cast Bronze beast from the 80s. most were 10 lug which was awesome but the 12 lugs just makes it look like some type of new Lockheed Martin prototype weapon or something. The snare system one those….
Bucket list snare Canopus is that drum company if you like japanese craftsmanship. Heck if you are already saving up 400-600 bucks for a nice snare. Why not what a few more paychecks and get one?
I admire the construction, but there was too much low end overhang to these drums for my liking. Seems like it it would be difficult to deal with in a mix. Maybe too much resonance isn't always a good thing.
The 5” sounded best at high tuning The 6.5” sounded best at medium tuning. The 8” sounded best at Low tuning. At these tunings the ring/ overtones seem to blend well. My humble opinion. I’ll stick with my 6.5 Noble & Cooley and my Ludwig Black Beauty.
EDIT: Just wanted to say that I love the store and am a big supporter. I've bought plenty of great gear from DCP. Nevertheless, this was is big disappointment. I can't imagine taking down a 200 year old tree to make a drum. I've had the privilege of visiting old growth forests, and there are few things in the world as beautiful and elegant - natural or manmade. Given that there is an abundant supply of farmed woods like birch and maple, I don't see any reason to collect a drum like this. On the other hand - perhaps this tree was salvaged, naturally fallen. I know DW has made drums that way. I for one won't be buying a drum like this without knowing the history of the wood.
@@adamfrost8417 as far as you know.sure the wood is already cut anyway.but you can bet these forests get cleared regardless cuz theres so many uses for the wood. It's a conundrum. If the wood is already there and the drum is already made,your not really causing the tree to be chopped,for your drum.but someone's cutting it/its already sitting waiting to be used. Just cuz you buy something doesnt mean your morale compass/causes for concerns are being considered. It's like the old "my tax money pays for..." ,in that unfortunately you dont get to decide that your money specifically goes to build a road,help a hospital etc...becuz either way your Money goes to war and government too
Goodness that 8” sounds incredible 🔥
That it does!
My buddy has a 5" deep one and it is by far the most sensitive snare drum I have ever played. These things are truly special.
Wow! They were all great but the the 5" a favorite
Shane and the crew always are appreciated for the work they do from my end. Thank you.
Thank you for the kind words!
This kid built his own candy store.
Love my Zelkova’s! Love working for Canopus!
High quality handmade. Gorgeous wood
This is one of the best snare drum available for all the reasons Shane shared on the video. I used to have one back in the day and ended up selling it before I got to explore with different heads and tunings. I remember it being bright and extremely sensitive, sloppy ghost notes were clear as so it demands you to have control. Glad you guys made this video, I am thinking getting one of these at some point and that 8” is something else!!
Truly special instruments!
I really liked the 14 x 8 snare with the low end tuning the best! What an magnificent sound! Thanks for making this video!
canopus just makes all the quality tubs
That they do...!
That 8" is so nice. So much going on.
So much character!
I'm a sucker for 5" snares, but man that 6.5" really sang to me in a way drums of that depth usually don't. And that 8", holy moly. That's a really special sound. Hope I can get my hands on one of these sometime.
I actually always preferred 6.5" snares, and this one is probably the peak of what I could ever wish from one.
Thank you much for doing this video. Shane is sounding really good lately. Love the 5!
Thank you for watching!
Congrats on coming up with this snare drum concept with Canopus! They should have dedicated the first one to you with the Serial #00001 with a badge on it for the Drum Center of Portsmouth. Then, you should have made a video of you playing it, afterwards placing it in the DCP museum. What a piece of art and workmanship! That 14x8 is a seriously well made drum with the awesome sound to prove it. Kudos, Shane!
They sound incredible. That 8 at medium tuning is sweet!
Surprisingly I think I’m going for that 5” thanks for these videos
same here!
the whole kit is mindblowing
I bought all 3 of my Zelkova's from you Shane! Hard to believe I've been a customer since 2011 !
Thanks for all the support over the years!!
I own a special edition of the 6.5" and it's PERFECT, trust me.
Okay, I’m impressed. Great sounding drums, all three.
Boy those sound amazing. One day....
Одобряю!
Beautiful! 7:29 👍👍OMG I just went snare heaven! 8:48 😭🤘🥁🤘DC
such beautiful round tone on all of them. I'd want one in each of the sizes, but if only one I think it would have to be the 8. It sounded the best through all tuning ranges to my ear. Plus I've always just loved 8" snares.
I get that in a mix you couldn't discern the difference between those and other great snare drums that may be cheaper etc...but that's not really the point in my opinion. It's what I love about Japanese craftsmanship. Many times they just want to see how close you can get to perfection in every regard. Not just sound but the very idea of crafting a drum with no glue from a single piece of wood that is an art piece in itself as much as it is a functional object. It's an amazing accomplishment and worth every penny, in my opinion, to give these craftsmen the opportunity to try to achieve this stuff.
For things like this, the people who buy these drums are more like "patrons of the arts" who commission works (as you did in this situation...bravo!) and allow these artist/craftsmen the ability to do something they'd probably never be able to do otherwise.
Awesome. These are definitely on my radar but always wondered about the different sizes - I think this might be the only clip with like for like recording anywhere. Top work!
Might have to buy from you guys too seeing as our local distributor won’t supply costs even when asked 😂
Those drums give new meaning to the word PHAT!
I shouldn't be surprised (because Shane is usually spot on with his advice on drums) but I am in that the 8" was my favorite as far as sound. I thought it would be the 6.5 when I first saw the three size options.
That pic of you at the sushi place is gold lol
I felt the same thing when I first got into Doc Sweeney stave snares. So much projection and sustain you’d think you were playing a metal snare. But then you go low and it still has the woody thunk that metal can lack. Thick, lightweight, homogeneous shells
holy drum tone! absolutely glorious, hope to be able to play one someday. great work DCP !
Thank you kindly and hope to see you in the shop someday!
Holy- That 8" sounds 🔥!
All 3 have their own distinct sound, which is why I'd have to buy all 3...
6.5 all the way. I loved my metal drums.
Robert
Shane is the best!!!!!!!
loved the 5' inch depth zelkova. just a smooth sound not abrasive at all. and had alot of pop. someday hope to own one.
I love the throw off on these drums 😆
Simplicity!
Like the Brady solid hollow tree snare!
Amazing… can’t wait to own it. Really wished you played all three back to back. Tough choice to which size to go for.
#AllOfThem
Why is there a mold needed for a shell made from a hollowed out log? Is the mold necessary to further season and hold the shells shape after the outside of the shell is cut on the lathe?
I wondered that too.
Anyway you could do another video of the Sonor Artist series Bronze?? Such a great snare but the video didn't do it justice
You're right.
@@adamfrost8417can you just do a sonor high end snares video?
Looks like you're sporting a Zenith Chronomaster! Loving the new open heart and re-issues.
Thank you! El primero.
In a word, unbelievable!
6:02 Kind of reminding me of Bonham's sound. Many thanks for the video btw :)
For some reason, I tend to only like the sound of deep snares when recorded, so while I preferred the 8" in this video (although they were all incredible), I'd probably like the 5" the best if I played them unmic'd.
I’ve been watching your videos of these drums over the years. The 8” version is truly incredible. Does it sound as meaty in person when you play it as it does here mic’d up?
Absolutely! That drum is a monster!
That's some gorgeous timber right there!!........gotta say I was most impressed with the 5". It remained full at all tunings with no choking. The 6.5" is great, and the low tuning was fuller as expected. The 8" was just, more, as expected. The high tuning didn't strike me any more than the 5", which is a testament to the smallest drum ;:-) ......the 5" would be my pick.
All are fantastic instruments! ;:-)
this is the first video where i actually notice some of the nuances of these drums. the thing that gets me about canopus is that they seemingly spare no expense on the shells and the lugs yet the strainer is the same OEM model you get on a pearl sensitone. canopus needs to step it up with a proprietary strainer and butt or at least put a trick strainer on there so it's comparable quality as the lugs.
That’s what puzzles me, too! And a kind of deal breaker for me because I friggin‘ hate cheap throw offs…
I SAID BUY THE DADGUM DRUM AND PUT YOUR OWN TRICKY STRAINER ON IT!!!
This is pretty much the wood equivalent to the Tama Bell Brass. Literally does everything you'd want it to, and it does it well.
I'd rather have a cast Bronze snare.
@@Assimilator702 I SAID NO YOU CERTAINLY WOULD KNOT PREFER THE BRASS OVER THE ZELKOVA!!!
I want one. Or three.
The 8" is nice, but MAN that 5x14 was amazing!
Tons of personality in that 5!
Do the Zelkova snares require any special care due to how they’re made? They all sound fantastic!
Love at first sight (at low tunings)
What mics are those especially on the snare? it makes that snare sound really good. nice review loving those snares. very rich in tone.
Close mics on the snare are a Shure SM57 and an Oktava MK-012. The overheads are a big part of the sound though and that is a pair of Earthwork SR25s. The mic in the foreground is a Shure KSM32 and that is acting a bit as a mono kit mic and is blended in underneath the rest of the mics.
the look of Shane's face when he started playing said it all
One question i try to buy my drums PDP CONCEPT SERIES OR YAMAHA CUSTOM BRTCH???
I would love to know why companies cut their snare edges so they come so close to the head’s collar. I’m no master drum builder but after building a few kits I really feel they bearing edges need to be off the collar to resonate more.
Good contact between the shell and collar will give better energy transfer through the shell.
@@metrodrumstv I’ve found the opposite from my experience. 🤷
courses.physics.illinois.edu/phys406/sp2017/NSF_REU_Reports/2003_reu/Eric_Macaulay_Final_Paper.pdf
6.5 high tuning, awesome
How about a comparison with a similar stave shell snare...
That 8”…….. DROOL!!
That 14x8 is the wood equivalent of the terminator tama bell brass. It SCREAMS Smells Like Teen Spirit!
14 X 8 (mid tuning) - like buttah!
Agree! That seems to be the sweet spot.
Yeah! The best
5 medium. Your expression said it all around 3:12 or so
The look on your face at 3:15 says it all. :D
It's like picking your favorite child. If they were made of super expensive, super rare Japanese wood. Arigato.
Wow
Always have been interested in these snare drums.cost????
Link in description
My favorite Zelkova snare size is ALL three of them. ALL three sounded best at higher tunings because there was the least amount of ringing and unwanted overtones. Since ALL three drums were tuned "wide open" (no muffling of the drumhead) the lower and mid-range tunings produced ringing and some unwanted overtones. Some drummers prefer that open sound, I myself do not. You didn't mention what brand and model of drumheads were used, so I assumed they were probably Remo Coated Ambassadors. However, as you know that ringing and unwanted overtones can be remedied with specific drumheads made by Aquarian, Evans and Remo, maybe even DW.
Just like your video on the 10 favorite snare drum picks by DCP's staff, I want to own and PLAY ALL three Zelkovas and those 10 snare drums.
I can't help it if I'm an EQUIPMENT SLUT. I'M A GEAR WHORE.
Le😎 Ameruba 🇵🇭 🇺🇸 🇨🇺
Percussionist / Drummer
IMO the all time snare is the 12 Lug Sonor Signature Cast Bronze beast from the 80s. most were 10 lug which was awesome but the 12 lugs just makes it look like some type of new Lockheed Martin prototype weapon or something. The snare system one those….
how come all three have the same price
Same amount of labor and materials goes into each drum.
Great video, beautiful snare drums. (Too expensive.)
Bucket list snare
Canopus is that drum company if you like japanese craftsmanship.
Heck if you are already saving up 400-600 bucks for a nice snare. Why not what a few more paychecks and get one?
I own a 5 and want the 8 so bad….
Kinda makes my old Ludwig aculite sound a bit lacking.
I like the 8 I’m surprised all three sizes are the same price
#nextlevel
All great, but the 8 inch was best imho.
Beautiful snares. Prices don't seem unreasonable. Great job on the video too!
Even if I were a pro gigging drummer selling out large stadiums I wouldn’t spend $1,600 on a snare!
@@ghiblinerd6196 yeah but you have a turnip for a head so....
Lol hahahahahahaha.
Is Canopus a boutique company?
Yes, definitely.
I use canopus snare wires on my sonor snares.
The best wires on the market!
8”
This must be different than all the Zelkovas that are all about my neighborhood.
14x8
8x14
iPhone speakers don’t do these justice
Nope, definitely need good speakers or headphones to hear all the details.
I admire the construction, but there was too much low end overhang to these drums for my liking. Seems like it it would be difficult to deal with in a mix. Maybe too much resonance isn't always a good thing.
Has anyone own and use Canopus Zelkova snares for at least 10 years to be able to tell if they keep their shape?
We know many that have had them much longer with no issues!
The 5” sounded best at high tuning
The 6.5” sounded best at medium tuning.
The 8” sounded best at Low tuning.
At these tunings the ring/ overtones seem to blend well.
My humble opinion.
I’ll stick with my 6.5 Noble & Cooley
and my Ludwig Black Beauty.
Ummmm.... I am almost afraid to ask how much $$$$ it is..... Oh, nevermind, i checked the links.... Nice.
I was surprised they all cost the same. Not that I can afford any of them..:p
get a shirt Shane,,, please dude!
I shouldn't have watched this vid... that 8x14 is calling me! just picked up the N&C/Ludwig snare... dang you DCP, take all my monies! :p
Opppps!
The deeper they got the more wet and flappy they sounded. I'd go the 14x5.
That’s what she said.
2 videos in... this man is very quotable... LOL.
EDIT: Just wanted to say that I love the store and am a big supporter. I've bought plenty of great gear from DCP. Nevertheless, this was is big disappointment. I can't imagine taking down a 200 year old tree to make a drum. I've had the privilege of visiting old growth forests, and there are few things in the world as beautiful and elegant - natural or manmade. Given that there is an abundant supply of farmed woods like birch and maple, I don't see any reason to collect a drum like this. On the other hand - perhaps this tree was salvaged, naturally fallen. I know DW has made drums that way. I for one won't be buying a drum like this without knowing the history of the wood.
These aren't mass produced, and there are heavy restrictions to harvesting these trees. It's not like they're clear cutting to build a McDonald's.
@@adamfrost8417 as far as you know.sure the wood is already cut anyway.but you can bet these forests get cleared regardless cuz theres so many uses for the wood. It's a conundrum. If the wood is already there and the drum is already made,your not really causing the tree to be chopped,for your drum.but someone's cutting it/its already sitting waiting to be used. Just cuz you buy something doesnt mean your morale compass/causes for concerns are being considered. It's like the old "my tax money pays for..." ,in that unfortunately you dont get to decide that your money specifically goes to build a road,help a hospital etc...becuz either way your Money goes to war and government too
I think you're making a valid point, and I'm far from a climate change SJW.
I got something for you Shelley.
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