Johnny Marr on Morrissey, why he hates politicians and the Manchester attack
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- The Smiths guitarist Johnny Marr talks to Krishnan Guru-Murthy from London's ICA on the release of his new album Call the Comets. A political musician from his early days of gigging at Glastonbury, he now talks of disagreeing with Smiths frontman Morrissey over his far-right leanings, how the terrorist attack in Manchester jolted his creativity and why he thinks politicians are more desperate for fame than anyone else.
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That's the crazy interviewer that made Robert Downey Jr. walk off set.
Yeah he's a well known arsehole.
Dr Diablory exactly.
@@andrewnolastname2337 This is also the guy that was seen as good enough to interview Princess Diana. He's actually a great interviewer and known as being a really nice guy.
Nima Scolari it’s not the same interviewer, It was Martin Bashir that interviewed Diana, Martin Bashir was a pretty damn good interviewer, the guy interviewing Marr is not on par with him
@@brother1ray you're an idiot, play a record
His hair color is completely irrelevant. If he was a woman it would be okay, in fact encouraged. Stop hating on someone who uses a dye product. Its stupid and meaningless.
We love Johnny Marr ❤️ one of a kind guitar 🎸 player
@Mister Sifter why not
Daniel Earwicker = Johnny Marr
Marr is a good bloke
@Ray winston smith go on then...
Absolutely
He sure is
What dumb questions. What do you think of the Manchester bombing? Surely the answer is the same as everyone. Tired questions trying to get a sound bite.
Bloated
Morrissey = legend for being for Brexit, and calling out radical Islam as well as what happened with lockdowns, etc. marr = part of the establishment that he supposedly like to rile against.
I read both Marr’s and Morrissey’s autobiographies. It’s a shame they could not give their bassist and drummer more credit for their sound because it is yet unmatched in either of their subsequent bands
You are so limited in your assessment of both of them. Both contribute to music at a level few can.
Sad that their history seems difficult but neither has lost a split second, and the lyrics always fresh.
I won’t choose sides because there is no need to do so. Both of these men still add to my life. I like having both in my life.
It is the two creatives of the best band of the twentieth century.
Even though I have an ear & more theory than most, how can I ever know enough to have an ability to rank them.
It isn’t possible to rank one above the other. They are both equally world class. I just listen.
Two absolute masters. I love the work that each of them has produced.
You may prefer one or the other. I will just enjoy their work. Neither ever disappoints.
Two legends.
-Dan
Be the change….
Absolutely
This guy doesn't deserve to be in the presence of marr. Shocking interviewer
Why because he doesn't asq questions like Jimmy Fallon? Mickey mouse questions? This is also the guy that was seen as good enough to interview the Princess Diana.
@@nimascolari1508 urrgghh no that’s a different Asian interview, Martin Bashir.
Articulate speaker and immense player. He's the whole package
A truly fine citizen...Every word he says makes perfect sense. There's no soap box ranting, no politicking, just honest heart felt and open dialogue. Johnny Marr is an incredible musician and a great human being. He tells it like it is, but he has empathy, humility and compassion. Rare in todays world.
Johnny seems like a great guy. Very articulate and an animal musician, but I wonder can he truly see where humanity is headed as a consequence of globalisation, the looming technocracy etc? It doesn't appear so
Most people cannot see it despite it being all around them.
@@soarornor - yes. Ironically, technology and all its trappings is the perfect distraction
He may well be a 'nice guy', but he is very politically naive and dull. If he could see through Livingstone and then also got a hint of what goes on with Cameron 'appropriating' his generation, then he also needs to make the next step and work out what that so called 'left' project that he provided a soundtrack for was really about.
Blair changed our society irreparably, too (in fact, more so) and Cameron was his explicitly stated heir. So given his part and his concern for his country, maybe learn and speak up about how our nation was dismantled in favour of globalism and technocracy, instead of sitting on some pre-Blair, anti-Thatcher conception of the world. And, perhaps, when you do meet Obama, ask him about flattening Lybia and putting it back in the stone age and the funding, training and arming of ISIL in Syria after you've finished bowing to him.
Morrissey was thinking critically from the beginning - his analysis continues to be radical - the New Labour cohort were all transparent from the beginning (check out the authoritarian 'Covid Passport holders only' Bragg during Lockdowns).
And by the way - what is with Ch 4 recording everything on half volume so the adverts blow your ears off?
👏👏👏👏👏first class.. very well said!
He thinks before he speaks and Morrissey seems not to ..... I admire Morrisseys trueness..
Morrisey is honest and talk truth the HE sees it.
Top human. Down to earth, articulate, passionate and humane. Love Johnny!
Johnny Marr is a Legend . . . . Genius guitar player & Top Bloke . . .
Glastonbury Festival has been ruined by commercialism. It’s largely attended by middle class posers who don’t really care about music, they only go to the event because it’s trendy.
Painful interview... the activist interviewing him is desperate to drag some kind of condemnation of Morrissey out of him..but Marr is clever enough to give an answer that will be able to be fitted either teams view on it. He knows full well careers can be ended with the wrong answer!
pretty sure he condemned him
He's no good without Morrissey
Morrisey is great. Marr is great. Krishnan Guru-Murthy is a morran.
@Edward Oliver It's what we call irony
Moron.... You morran!!
Good interview. What strikes me in JM is his total honesty and way of expressing himself exactly how it is / no frills, which was, essentially, the core value of The Smiths.
"What was your response to the Manchester Arena attack?"
".......errrr...........ummmm...........arrr..........errrrrrrrrr.........ummmm............I wrote a song......"
(See 15:34)
Mustn't say how discusting and cowardly the attack was, at least Morrissey has got guts and sticks two fingers to the left wing media and government.
Ha ha. I don't either of them would have the guts to say it was a false flag.
What left wing government?
@Intuition It's not just grammar! We haven't had a left wing government for about ten years!
@@fredh1720 current one global one
"A D D for the ears" lol. You're spot on Johnny. That's modern pop music for you
The homeless guy he mentioned turned out to have robbed the victims as they law dying, and was convicted. I wonder if he regrets that lyric.
Thank God for Morrissey
Seems like a top bloke. Couldn't agree more with his thoughts on affecting what's around you and the people you interact with in a positive way.
Marr is not brave enough to say something about what is happening in England
or maybe moz is always too brave
Why does he have to? He made his career in playing the guitar, not a social commentator. Morrissey fulfilled that role. He’s allowed to say what he thinks in the way he wants.
Insanely interesting fellow. I would love a guitar lesson from this bloke 😃
Ok calm down randall
Same here
That "The The" album is "dusk." phenomenal album. Marr at the height of his powers. Lyrics to blow your mind.
His problem is he's stuck in the '80s politically.
I'm currently watching Johnny Marr playing with the Killers in 2019
So many reasons to adore him! Faith in humanity restored.
don't read the comments
Eric Park I know. Sheeple! Melania jacket for them.
there you go...
Eric Park hehehe
LOL...
Legend, awesome talent Marr!
Great hair & shoes too 😊
When did you ever see his shoes?
my niece was there at the arena, but she got out safe. thank god. RIP, to all who died in the arena attack.
Thank God she was saved. Being a Muslim myself, we were as angry as anyone else. Really sorry these things happen. Really
Isn’t this the interviewer literally everybody hate?
We must be mindful that 'artists' are outside the hierarchy. We ought to cherish their insight and spontaneity. The current conveyor belt of musical 'talent' operates within the hierarchy of the corporations. The truth and beauty of 'art' will always endure. Ne Timeas.
They're just ordinary people, relax
Never in the history of mankind has someone talked so much and said so little. Pathetic.
If Johnny was "normal" he wouldn't be a creator of art. That being said, I believe that artists don't live in the reality of ours. That could be why we use them to escape. Trump and Thatcher types will not ruin the world, there's enough of us to do that! Why are Asians from Asia? Why do we all look different. Separated by ice, mountains, Ocean? It's simple.
Last night an interview with Johnny Marr was all I saw on Channel 4.
A poetic and thoughtful account of the Manchester attack- how about mentioning the Libyan fighting group and Theresa May's role as Home Secretary. Really political stuff Mr Marr. Good job we've can listen to your songs reflecting on it and get a bumble bee tattoo instead of talk about accountability of the perpetrator, his father and MI6. So edgy.
Please explain bumble bee tatoo?
@@erinhand It was symbol of sympathy and solidarity, for the victims of the Manchester bombings.
He's just a musician from Manchester, it would only be his personal opinion anyway if he chose to share it. The politics are complicated and go back to the policies in the middle east in the 70's by oh various governments. No-one is innocent, and no-one is to especially to blame, it's a cycle of violence...
@@redstar7292 terrorism is more extreme these days (1970/80s), bands formed because they had high employment
It was more exciting then with so many bands trying to establish their music
Punk somehow was the new wave of anti ( everything against conformist )
Most of them just wanted to play and make protest songs about Anarchy, these days they are signed to major record labels and play stadiums instead of doing long tours
I expect Johnny Marr, has earned more money being a singer/writer, than he would of done staying with The Smiths
Johnny should of never left the Smiths! Huge mistake
He seems to be quite grounded and well thought out in his expressions in addition to being a great musician. He was terrific as the opening act for the Killers in their latest tour.
oh has the world changed or have i changed
I disagree with most of his views but he means well
We’ve got to get Noel Gallagher on one of these, not that I can imagine him agreeing to it unless he’s got a new record coming out
What more has Noel Gallagher got to say really that you haven't heard already?
TrainInVain it’s more just the thought of him and Guru-Murphy having a chat. I’d find it sort of unintentionally funny
Edward Oliver oh no look out! Someone on the Internet has an opinion different from you. Heaven forbid.
Edward Oliver right, because this video was all about guitar play wasn’t it
Edward Oliver amazing how you can deduce so much from me simply stating another musician would make an entertaining guest.
Are you ok? You sound like you need a hug...or maybe a sectioning.
He talking out of his backside He's out of touch
Wow. Marr really became a mouthpiece for the establishment. Hearing him legitimizing the false flag Nice and Manchester Arena events is nauseating.
youre right johnny social media is like inviting every one into youre home think of it like that yea thare little platforum has let the rocks roll over and all the sicko's of the day are let lose
Marr the solo artist is bland...Marr the person just parrots what all lefty celebs say.
Only Morrissey speaks the truth
22:33 Does Johnny Marr know that THAT homeless guy who 'went to the rescue of a young girl' was found guilty of thieving from victims of the bombing?
Ricky - all of humanity and the myriad realms of human nature is involved in a terror attack, it's just indiscriminate. So yes he probably thieved he was homeless and hungry doesn't mean he didn't want to save someone life...
I know that guy
He should of done, musicians do hear the news.
Peter Hook, ( bassist ), daughter was at the concert 😢..She was able to escape, not seriously hurt
Just had nightmares after
She can't shut her bedroom door because of the fear
Krishnan Murthy desperately trying to push his CH4 sponsored dogmatic biased narrative on this alleged interview, he really didn't need Marr there, as Marr's comments really weren't important to Murthy.
Stick to the music, not sure politics suits Johnny, artists are sucked into it by the likes of some very divisive characters who live in the same creative bubble. They don’t live in the real world or have the same pressures of the ordinary people they think they represent. “Morrissey in trouble” for having an opinion, opinions that a large chunk of the population agree with! Anybody that accuses him of racism is merely ignorant. It’s nice to hear Johnny talk down politicians though, he should! A small minority of the electorate actually voted for the current government so who’s representing who??
the worst interviewer in the world is still at work?
Is he the one that did that MJ Doc?
@@adams4100 I can remember an interview with Robert Downey jr. Terrible, awful, very very bad indeed.
Johnny needs Morrissey
I think a guitar player like Johnny Marr should devote his talent to perfecting the groove, to further people like Robert White, Eddie Willis, Nile Rodgers, Manchester is Hitsville UK in the making.
Just because it's Johnny Marr, doesn't mean he's right. What was he actually saying? Nothing. No answers or solutions, just concerns and condemnation of views with which he disagrees - but offers no alternatives to. All very much middle-of-the-road, boring liberalism. Heard it all before, Johnny. At least Morrissey challenges conventional views and creates a debate.
What do you disagree with that Morrissey is saying??...........just another sell out Johnny, sell your mate down river so you can be in press's favour
the big one that made me cry with his melodies
You can see how Johhny Marr and Jeff Beck got on and respected each other. Great collaboraters, so skilled and humble. Two geniuses.
Very nice man but regarding what happened in Manchester, Morrissey got it right when he sang that he will look back in anger until the day he dies.
The singing and all of the other trite responses were an insult to those who died and their bereaved families.
Thirty years is a long time tried living in the real world instead of a shell. I was bored before I even began.
incoherent babble
Marr may be an alpha male these days, but he is let down by his lack of voice on these very important issues (animal rights). He must be in a strong position to vocalise more clearly. Good but Disappointing.
I disagree with the host there. Music is supposed to be a way to escape all the politics and bs going on in the world. Nobody sane wants to hear bitching and whining in the music. It's an escape for a lot of things so we don't wanna be preached at or bothered with politics in it
Legend.
The smiths were not political beyond Morrissey stand on meat consumption..Tbh because they were not doing the politics thing
Yes they were! What are you on about? They were English socialists and supported the Labour party - notoriously so, even playing the anti Thatcher Red Wedge gigs.
I loved the Smiths but Johnny Marr is a knob
Pathetic interviewer using Marr as a tool for Channel 4 political agenda. I’d like to see him do this to Morrissey.
Only really watched to hear about Morrissey. I accept that the Smiths without Marr wouldn’t have been The Smiths, That said, the fact Marr is on C4 talking “politics” means he has nothing to say except what is safe to our alleged “masters.” You have to wait a good 10 minutes in to get into it here .
Still good use of the word “terse” in the interview by Marr. Almost Morrisseyesque .
Smiths' should have come together to do Manchester benefit, shame about the egos
He and Gary Neville so sound so alike i can't unhear it
Morrissey speaks for the working class, and refuses to conform, no matter the character attacks he suffers from the media, never afraid to offer his opinion even in the face of adversity. Marr has absolutely nothing interesting to say.
so Marr was the clever one?
I saw JM play in Anaheim a few months in May 2019, I'm obviously a fan. But WTF is JM saying..?
That hair style must've cost a pretty penny.
This is called someone speaking thoughtfully, insightfully and honestly. If you were not so ignorant you wouldn’t worry about people’s hair style which has no relevance on a human being and what they stand for in any way shape or form. It probably costa nothing btw - his record label will provide stylists etc, like every other musician of his standing on the planet. Read his book and understand that he is a fan of fashion and clothes and in fact was his first love ahead of music.
He's been actively trying avoid being political, so it's kind of sad to see him cowed into instant agreement with this Channel 4 interviewer. Need to watch Jordan Peterson's Channel 4 interview again to cleanse my palette. And it's "Call the Comet", not "Call the Comets", Channel 4.
Johnny Mary is a Legend . . . Genius guitar player & Top Bloke . . . .
Marr makes this interview great despite the desperate effort of the activist to try to draw some politics out of him.
I wish journalists would do journalism instead of cravenly seeking for virtue signals or political alignment statements like religious people try to suss out infidels.
@Jessica S They all seem to follow the same agenda & dont really question it:-(
Interesting the boomers who were once Smiths fans criticise the guy who formed the band for not towing the right-wing line which a lot of that generation seem to be all about these days. Buying up properties in inner cities, gentrifying them and selling them for inflated prices whilst this guy is still playing his guitar. I know who I’d rather have a conversation with.
@2:17- " ... it's ALMOST LIKE..." ???😮 That Damn presenter did Not LET HIM FINISH!! 🤬
Why would I ever watch this presenter do anything now?? Why would I watch the rest of it when he won't even let him finish his sentence less than 5 minutes in? Bye,!
That haircut is getting increasingly ridiculous...
Would put a sizeable chunk of money on Chaz being bald and salty
Fred Bloggs Ha ha, nice one Frederick, hope you're enjoying the balding process.
Train that is vain, hope you enjoy the HIV process...
Fred Bloggs Slaphead Fred
VainTrain the toupee wearing Johnny lover.
Marr just a trendy woke these days Give me Morrissey anyday✔️🎤
Boring........................
Billy Bragg is a massive bellend
Why
Lol !
Sorry the center did not jold for the Smiths. But you need maximum artistic freedom and so did Moz.
I can somewhat understand why the tension but I chalk it up to personality differences.
But the Smiths legacy will live forever. As will your subsequent music.
And for those with a good mind, your observations on politics is another example of your talent. Keep on being a bloke who knows what he believes & why.
Truly a working class hero.
Thank you for the entirety. of what you do. The ideas as well as the notes.
Keep on. You are an amazing observer of all that you encounter.
Love & respect.
-Dan
He is smart one.
If you didnt know who Johnny was , and listened to this you would think hes a politician and not a musician. Your a great bloke Johnny, laugh and talk about your music more than your political views which seem to bring you down.
I was at that Gig, which was on the South Bank in London in in the grounds of what was at that time County Hall. It was put on by Ken Livingstone but was in fact about Jobs in the face of huge unemployment figures at the time
I stan for Johnny Marr ❤️❤️❤️
Not much worse than an under prepared interviewer. Look at Cheryl Waters at KEXP on the tour in Seattle - thats how you do it. Oh and Channel 4 - its Call The Comet, singular, only 1 comet. No Comets. Could be a follow up album I guess.
Ah Noel Gallagher looks old. Or is it John Craven ?
As Noel Gallagher said he’s a dude.
Johnny is a honest bloke and a talented guitarist
He will feel a bit annoyed about this song, however it isn't his fault about he homeless man, who did save lives and steal from them just to make out he was an hero, just really an idiot.
What an amazing interview
60 today - I look Johnny up on Wiki to coincidently find that he's 60 today 31/10/1963
How soon is Now ! 🎶
Hes interesting. Puts his views across well without preaching and has his own ideas .
Krishnan Guru-Murthy makes my skin crawl. It's the absolute smugness I despise, and it's so unjustified.
Johnny is right,it’s easy to spout hateful trash because of anonymity. You can’t get much more of a truthful statement from a truthful bloke !. 🙏🏽
Didn't it turn out that the homeless guy he mentioned actually stole the girls phones or something? 😆
"rubix cube if people know what those are" :0) EXACTLY "fed up of this world: - this dying world. Marr's too lenient on the interviewer for some reason .. and well ratings sell .. hmm why is johnny's sound so much lower than . .