Yes, you're right, and my favourite of all time with Ed O'Brien. But for me, it feels like it's a step up for the boys, going out and interviewing these guys, so well handled, look out Rick Beato 😂 @@sunepedersen8537
Little story here: I emailed Johnny years ago, probably back in 2010 when I had just picked up a guitar "for good this time" because I'd tried it when I was a little younger. At the time I was oh I dunno, 16 or 17. After hearing the Edge from U2 through ALL of their albums (deep cuts and all haha), and hearing Nick McCabe from the Verve, it was Johnny's playing that sealed the deal. So, I found his professional website and emailed him and GOT A RESPONSE! In an age of Twitter/X whatever and whatnot, it may not be really surprising now, but back then, at age 16 or so to be receiving a response email from one of your biggest musical heroes was mind boggling. I'd asked such simple questions that frankly, were a bit beneath him having to respond haha, but the fact that he DID showed me that not only is Johnny an immense creator but also has a kind and intentional heart. He responded to a kid when he didn't have to, he could have let that email go. I printed out the email and put it in a plastic page protector, I'm sure I still have it somewhere haha. But I probably won't need it because I remember the most important part, he said at the end "Whatever you do, keep with it. It's worth it." Well I kept with it and have been playing and writing music for 14 years! :)
beautiful story man. you can look up the story on youtube when Noel G and Oasis were nobodies Johnny lent Noel a Les Paul which Noel had to use to defend Liam from a heckler, then he lent Noel another Les Paul (formerly belonging to Pete Townsend) after Noel broke the first one. Heart of gold. Still Married to his wife who was his teenage sweetheart. He caught himself as he was sliding into drink and drugs at the end of the Smiths, before RnR made him an asshole, and straightened out and remained humble about his success. One of the few good role models in a teenage wasteland lol. Wicked sense of humor too, his youtube stories are hilarious. Especially the one where he joins the Happy Mondays for an hour lol.
Hearing the Smiths riffs without Andy Rourke really highlights how well they complemented each other. Marr is just a wonder, a force of nature and of good things.
@joelance - totally in agreement with you. Marr is a legend (of course), but I think Rourke's influence and contributions to "that sound" is underappreciated. Their partnership made some amazing music. There is a lot of great music over the decades, but very few songs (and fewer bands) that I can listen to hundreds of times over decades and still be moved by. And The Smiths is definitely one of those. The collaboration of those 4 guys was really, really special. This was a fantastic watch - nearly 2 hours and I could have listened for a lot longer.
I am a fellow survivor of St Augustine’s Grammar in Sharston Manchester UK, The school JM and Andy Rourke attended. I was in the same year, same class as Andy but different to JM. I never thought it weird that hey played guitar. Often would go in the music room and listen to them during lunch. Even at 14, this guy was seriously, seriously good.
00:03 Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others 7:03 Hand In Glove 7:31 Jeane 7:54 This Night Has Opened My Eyes 10:56 What Difference Does It Make 12:08 Accept Yourself 14:12 This Charming Man 18:01 That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore (ish) 23:49 The Boy With The Thorn In His Side 32:51 Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now 35:25 Girl Afraid 40:28 Stop Me If You Think You've Heard This One Before 55:15 How Soon Is Now 58:07 Nowhere Fast 1:02:45 The Headmaster Ritual 1:05:17 That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore 1:35:25 New Town Velocity 1:37:10 Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others
A few more: 53:02 London (the Smiths) 1:16:30 Dashboard (Modest Mouse) 1:17:49 We've Got Everything (Modest Mouse) 1:24:29 Soldier of Fortune (Bryan Ferry) 1:26:09 We Share the Same Skies (Cribs)
I wouldn’t say underrated so much as just criminally unknown. In indie circles he get full respect and recognition. It’s just that The Smiths aren’t exactly a household name outside of “alternative” music. And thats just as tragic. He really was a giant.
Hearing Johnny Marr say "that's what the guitar made me play", " I have no business playing that" -- clearly knows music theory and scales and plays his feelings. A really great illustration of the creative process.
I like how Johnny will start to explain something and then midway through just cuts himself off and starts playing, he really does let his music speak for itself
I can't emphasize enough how inspirational this video was. It is for all creatives, not just musicians. But it does highlight how one needs to be obsessed with a single craft from an early age to become a master.
As a person who lacks the virtuoso skills but loves to play through my emotions, this episode was life changing. To have a legend like Johnny and two of my guitar heroes talk about guitars having their own song, such great stuff. I expect to rewatch this episode often.
Johnny is the reason I picked up a guitar back in 1983. This is a phenomenal interview and Johnny is so down to earth and humble. Always in my Top 5 all time guitarists. Thanks guys!!
My favorite episode thus far. As a 15 year old kid in 1985 on a farm in Iowa, USA, I somehow got on to the Smiths, (its a very long way from Manchester in so many ways). They were a big part of my life, like so many other bands, and a pig part of why and what i like about guitar. A week or so ago I had dusted them off and was listening to them for fun and for how he played the Ric and here comes TPS with this fantastic interview. Learned a ton and that it always wasn't the Ric. Can identify with the obsession as well. Thank you Mick and Dan and of course, Johnny.
It's a real testament to how good the show is, that people like Johnny Marr are more than happy to come on here and get into the weeds. Another great show, thanks Dan and Mick!
The perfect tonic for a wet, windy and stormy Friday. Johnny is my favourite guitarist and has been for decades. Massive thanks to both of you for this. Thanks to Johnny too for being so accommodating and generous with his time.
Its the mark of a man who is so quick to give praise to the various people he works with while playing down his own talent. For Johnny Marr its all about the music and you just know that if you were mates he'd make you feel ten feet tall.
Blimey I didn’t see this coming ! Thanks 🙏🏻 Just over an hour into this, and had to edit. What a humble man Johnny is. He has been so quick to sing other people’s praises and give credit where it was due. What a gentleman. Johnny “modest” Marr
This is the greatest thing of all time ever. Thank you so so so much for getting one of 2 people who made me FEEL guitar (the other was John Squire) on your show. Eternally grateful x
I've never really listened to any of Johnny Marr's music, but after watching this video, I'm definitely a fan of Johnny Marr and have lots of research to catch up on 🙂
Well you guys have surpassed yourselves, first Noel G and now Johnny Marr - this is the way to go for the channel - let guitar legends nerd out about their love for all things guitar - we love it 🎸❤️🙌🏻👍🏻
@@John.Charles sadly not possible but would have been fascinating to have this type of chat with Kurt Cobain - Guthrie Govan is always interesting to hear from
Who next?.... well I'd say Richard Thompson.....or paul weller....or how about Billy Bragg?...I know he's not a guitar nerd....but I think his playing..especially on his first 2 albums was pretty interesting and he's underrated....levi stubbs tears....the man in the iron mask...St Withins day...the staterday boy...all good sounds and songs...John squire....Abriz Abrams......Suzanne vega....Steve craddock......Richard Hawley....hank marvin.....Bruce welch....Joe brown.... And pete Townshend....bet he's got some nice guitars...
@@paulcartwright2810 Love the idea of Richard Thompson, one of my heroes, but he's not always a great interview. Marc Ford, late of the black crowes? Tim Renwick?
Every single time I've seen Johnny speak / perform or be interviewed, he radiates with passion, knowledge, humility, politeness and kindness. A true gent and a living legend of music and pop culture. Great interview guys. Thanks so much!
Such a great interview. It's quite spine tingling when Johnny unassumingly starts picking out one of those iconic riffs. Must have been such a buzz to be in the room. His success is well deserved. I think he single handedly invented Indie music!
I love the humility. I love that he's filled in for so many bands. Pretenders, Talking Heads, The The... others. No one deserves to own these beautiful guitars more.
i dont know how you managed to sit there, see and hear Johnny play these iconic sounds... and NOT cry... Im holding back tears now, because im at work. But if I was in that room, with those notes going into my ears, id be bawling my eyes out
Loved that he mentioned the underrated John McGeoch as an influence. Love Johnny Marr and such a huge influence on my own playing along with John McGeoch.
Was a Smith’s fan back in the 80’s, but Marr’s work on The The’s Dusk takes that album to another level. What a fantastic player and humble person. Great job guys!
If only they had produced it with the guitar more forward, vocals further back. Think how expressive morrissey was but the vocals were in the song, not infront of johnnys guitar. Completely different bands I’m aware but bring marr forward if you have him
The best Johnny Marr interview I've ever seen. By obsessives for obsessives - and fans who want the details. I actually have tears in my eyes as I write this (yes, I'm prone to over sentimentality!). Thank you so much. And thanks Johnny. Your musicality, fluidity, arpeggios, riffs and progressions have run through my mind for 40 years. And the fact that I can now play a lot of them still quietly stuns me occasionally. At the time your playing was simply voodoo to me. And yeah John McGeoch was astounding. Spellbound. Jesus.
Never has a person brought so much beauty to an instrument. Isn't it amazing that the electric guitar had been out for decades, and he created a completely different style and feel than anyone that had come before him? I absolutely love at the start, where the boys are listening, and JM completes the intro, and at the same time they blush, after the realization of what they are about to embark upon..
Some days If you're very very good, that dream of Johnny on the Pedal Show comes true and nothing else matters for 2 hours and then you can restart it all over again. Thank you guys for this. It was perfect. Its the single greatest thing my little eyes will ever see.
This is the very best of TH-cam , wonderful. Johnny is a complete one off. When I first heard and saw him in 1983 he sounded like he was from another planet. Soundtrack of my life.
I first see Johnny play with ‘The Smiths’ early 80s. As my mates (drunk) as we all were jumped up n down, pretty mindlessly really. I stood mesmerised at his playing. History will show he’ll remain one of the greats. And a thoroughly nice fella ta boot. Love him. Best interview I’ve ever seen with him and his guitars. Well done guys. 👋🤠🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶
I have loved Johnny Marr since my brother obsessively played Smiths albums when we were much younger; brilliant melodies and progressions that put the guitar front and center in a completely unique way. I honestly never thought I'd get the chance to see him live, but then one day I wemt with my wife to see R.E.M. at nearby Merriweather Post Pavilion in Columbia, MD. Somehow I had no idea he had recently joined the opening band, but then I wasn't as familiar with Modest Mouse. Imagine my amazement when the band walked on stage and out strolls Johnny F'ing Marr with a Jag! We were all blown away. Thanks so much for this fantastic interview!!!
I've been a keyboard player for 56 years and a guitar player for 44 years. I've played in bar bands since I was 16 so even at 60 years old I am always looking for inspiration to keep music exciting for me. I have found my source of inspiration right here at That Pedal Show. The chemistry between you two is just phenomenal. You two both play and never play the same riff twice. Man I could sit and listen to you 2 noodling around on guitars for hours. I wish you guys would release song tunes with just you two and the drummer and switch off between guitars and bass. Man you are so inspiring to me. How I love this channel. I love the gear demos and talk, but man when you 2 fire up the Les Paul and the Tele it really gets interesting to me. Thanks guys !
Just one word: Beautiful. Beautiful, beautiful music. Johnny, you're a legend, thank you for all your beautiful music - it's been a massive personal inspiration to me. There's something about your courageous playing and the sound that emerges that hits me on a deep, emotional level.
The brilliance here is hearing these seemingly meandering chord changes and codas, which feel loose and wayward in nature, BUT are so inviting of melody that they fuse into something iconic - genius songwriting.
Seeing the joy on your faces with every note played by Johnny Marr lets me know that, even with 377 thousand subscribers, you are still fans of music from 1984/85/86. I would love to be able to conduct an interview like this. Congratulations on your work.
Wow! This video will not only be big, but will be a museum piece for the future generations of guitarists who will be influenced by Jonny Marr. Well done guys!
After a Modest Mouse show I was fortunate enough to hang in the green room and back stage chatting guitars with Johnny. He is a Prince of a man…one of my favorite guitarists.
Agreed. I'm listening in work. I'm sneaking a look at my phone when a new guitar is presented and also to see Mick and Dan's faces when Mr. Marr plays.
Marr 's genius as a guitarist and one of inestimable influence is undeniable. In interviews and showcases such as this he invariably comes across as thoughtful, modest and refreshingly generous in his willingness to acknowledge and celebrate his musical collaborators, heroes and influences.
As much as ‘This Charming Man' and 'How Soon Is Now' bend my head, Johnny’s input with The The floors me. He’s mesmerising to watch and hear in ‘The The vs The Rest Of The World.' I love his "the guitar made me do it" attitude.
This is a dream come true. First getting Marr’s Guitars earlier in the week and now seeing this wonderful interview. Johnny has been my hero since that moment when I first saw him on TOTP almost 40 years ago. The word genius is overused but in his case it is most certainly deserved. Thanks guys for a belter of a show!
I believe that no matter how this world might have evolved, that Johnny Marr was always going to have been considered a very important guitarist. Love this show. Thanks
What a treat! Thanks so much guys! I feel so lucky to have seen Johnny with The Smiths, at the New Theatre Oxford in 1985, and will never forget that incredible evening! Such an original, inventive, and influential musician!
Damn, I’m going to want to be commenting all the way through this - so many memories - I’ll leave it at young teenaged me seeing Johnny playing the Ric on The Tube on a Friday night (This Charming Man) - it changed my relationship with guitars forever, and still shows up in my playing ALL THE TIME! Thanks, TPS for making this happen!
Saw him live with The Johnny Marr Orchestra in Manchester recently. Amazing! Brilliant, humble guy who is without a doubt, one of the best musicians and song writers ever!
I had the extreme privilege of meeting Johnny yesterday at his Spirit Power LP release - a man of the people’s an understatement, portrayed even better here. Seriously great work TPS.
Pausing halfway through to say that this video is an absolutely gift, an historical conversation. Ed, Noel, now Johnny; if you can have John Mayer one day you'll have interviewed my Mt Rushmore of living guitar players. Your work, gentlemen, is truly appreciated.
I am so excited about this video. Johnny Marr is my favorite guitarist, hands down. I love the pretty melodies and his ability to play so fast. He's not a show off, he's modest. Totally cool. Can't wait to tell my Smiths/Marr fans friends about this interview. It's so professional. I hear every word he says and the close ups come through really clean. Thank fellas! Cheers.
Johnny Marr............WOW ! Johnny Marr's guitars........GASP ! Who else could cite Steve Diggle with admiration & sincerity ? JM is a living legend !
Thank you guys! I'll admit to a little bit of fanboying over here. It was Johnny Marr and Peter Buck who convinced me my first electric guitar had to be a jetglo 360, after 10 years of playing nothing but acoustic guitar. The '80s were magic for me. I very much appreciated how Johnny's "hooks" were melodies that came out of the lush open chords. It's still influences my writing and my playing today. ❤️
I’ve seen many interviews with Johnny and this tops them all, giving us a front row seat to the making of history. And he’s such a good and gracious interviewee.
This great conversation here in this video is super great for bassists (like myself) too!! I would like to mention something very obvious here, but it’s personal to me: I’m 51. I started playing bass in ‘86. Still playing gigs weekly. Started out with U2 songs of course, because the seemed ‘easy’! Than, about a year in, I tried out the first Smiths’ songs. Took me some years, 🤣... I’d like to mention The Smiths bassist Any Rourke here. He had such talent and taste! And he had the opportunity to play with the great Johnny Marr. I guess Andy was the perfect bassist at the time to play Johnny Marr’s compositions. I’m enjoying this great conversation on TPS with Johnny Marr so much! All the guitars are freakin’ there and he’s playing them for us like it’s nothing! Makes me a happy camper for sure! I’m gettin’ that book, I will! But in my bassplayers’ little brain, I also here Andy’s basslines. A beautiful thing! 🖖
Thank you Dan and Mick as well as Johnny Marr for this great video. I was very friendly with Seymour Stein @ Sire records. He would always bring in the different groups that he would sign and let them pick out guitars at our three stores on west 48th street NYC. He brought in my friend David Byrne and Tina Weymouth. The Ramones Dee Dee Ramone , Chrisssie Hynde and Johnny Marr. to name a few greats. Thank you Johnny Marr for mentioning We Buy Guitars and for buying your Gibson ES355 from us. Regards RIchard Friedman from We Buy Guitars / Stuyvesant Music
Thoroughly enjoyed the interview and his explanations on guitars which were beneficial to certain songs.🎸 Seen him recently in Manchester and it was nice of him to say hi and allowed me to have a quick chat and show my respect for one of the pioneers of tracks of my youth growing up in Manchester and following Man City back in the day. All the best Johnny 👍🏾
Thank you thank you thank you. Best episode ever. Johnnys guitar playing has been a constant through my life. From the smiths, the the, Kirsty macoll, electronic, etc etc. He just has melody following through his veins I was lucky enough to meet him once.
I don't know a lot of Johnny's work outside of The Smiths and Modest Mouse but that's gonna change after watching this! What a fantastic musician as well as a humble, kind, self-aware human.
Just epic. I would never watch such a long video on here, but there's a first time for everything, eh? My favourite TH-cam video ! I'll definitely be watching each little part of this again in detail. His whole approach to guitars and guitar playing is one which resonates with me. Nothing conventional and nothing predictable because he never rests on his laurels; always pushing against the boundaries in his own way. A complete legend. Thanks guys, and thanks Johnny.
The importance of this interview is massive. Johnny Marr is one of the most influential and creative guitar players ever.
This will go into music archives for future musicians and music history for sure.
Far from it...
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Agreed. A generation of kids in their bedrooms learning to play coz of his licks.....now that's awesome
@@dilesmavis1196 delusional
Seriously boys, you've gone to another level with the Noel & Johnny interviews. Just awesome. Congratulations and cheers!!!
100% Two awesome interviews
And the Graham Coxon interview!
Yes, you're right, and my favourite of all time with Ed O'Brien. But for me, it feels like it's a step up for the boys, going out and interviewing these guys, so well handled, look out Rick Beato 😂 @@sunepedersen8537
After Noel and Johnny the next logical step would be someone like Pete Townshend... could you imagine how brilliant that'd be?
Same here!
Little story here: I emailed Johnny years ago, probably back in 2010 when I had just picked up a guitar "for good this time" because I'd tried it when I was a little younger. At the time I was oh I dunno, 16 or 17. After hearing the Edge from U2 through ALL of their albums (deep cuts and all haha), and hearing Nick McCabe from the Verve, it was Johnny's playing that sealed the deal.
So, I found his professional website and emailed him and GOT A RESPONSE! In an age of Twitter/X whatever and whatnot, it may not be really surprising now, but back then, at age 16 or so to be receiving a response email from one of your biggest musical heroes was mind boggling. I'd asked such simple questions that frankly, were a bit beneath him having to respond haha, but the fact that he DID showed me that not only is Johnny an immense creator but also has a kind and intentional heart. He responded to a kid when he didn't have to, he could have let that email go.
I printed out the email and put it in a plastic page protector, I'm sure I still have it somewhere haha. But I probably won't need it because I remember the most important part, he said at the end "Whatever you do, keep with it. It's worth it." Well I kept with it and have been playing and writing music for 14 years! :)
how cool ☝️
beautiful story man. you can look up the story on youtube when Noel G and Oasis were nobodies Johnny lent Noel a Les Paul which Noel had to use to defend Liam from a heckler, then he lent Noel another Les Paul (formerly belonging to Pete Townsend) after Noel broke the first one. Heart of gold. Still Married to his wife who was his teenage sweetheart. He caught himself as he was sliding into drink and drugs at the end of the Smiths, before RnR made him an asshole, and straightened out and remained humble about his success. One of the few good role models in a teenage wasteland lol. Wicked sense of humor too, his youtube stories are hilarious. Especially the one where he joins the Happy Mondays for an hour lol.
I love that story, thanks for sharing it.
Hearing the Smiths riffs without Andy Rourke really highlights how well they complemented each other. Marr is just a wonder, a force of nature and of good things.
@joelance - totally in agreement with you. Marr is a legend (of course), but I think Rourke's influence and contributions to "that sound" is underappreciated. Their partnership made some amazing music. There is a lot of great music over the decades, but very few songs (and fewer bands) that I can listen to hundreds of times over decades and still be moved by. And The Smiths is definitely one of those. The collaboration of those 4 guys was really, really special. This was a fantastic watch - nearly 2 hours and I could have listened for a lot longer.
Andy Rourke was just as much a genius on bass as Johnny is on guitar. Still hard to believe he left us so young :(
Great interview, fantastic guitarist ,also the man doesn't appear to age.
they were best mates and they built synergy over years of jamming and also knowing and trusting and loving each other lots
@@jimbowen8973Magically Special!😮
I am a fellow survivor of St Augustine’s Grammar in Sharston Manchester UK, The school JM and Andy Rourke attended. I was in the same year, same class as Andy but different to JM. I never thought it weird that hey played guitar. Often would go in the music room and listen to them during lunch. Even at 14, this guy was seriously, seriously good.
00:03 Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others
7:03 Hand In Glove
7:31 Jeane
7:54 This Night Has Opened My Eyes
10:56 What Difference Does It Make
12:08 Accept Yourself
14:12 This Charming Man
18:01 That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore (ish)
23:49 The Boy With The Thorn In His Side
32:51 Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now
35:25 Girl Afraid
40:28 Stop Me If You Think You've Heard This One Before
55:15 How Soon Is Now
58:07 Nowhere Fast
1:02:45 The Headmaster Ritual
1:05:17 That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore
1:35:25 New Town Velocity
1:37:10 Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others
Brilliant - thank you!
That’s awesome, thanks so much
@@ThatPedalShow Thank you for this amazing video, very useful for us Johnny Marr fans that try to learn his riffs
A few more:
53:02 London (the Smiths)
1:16:30 Dashboard (Modest Mouse)
1:17:49 We've Got Everything (Modest Mouse)
1:24:29 Soldier of Fortune (Bryan Ferry)
1:26:09 We Share the Same Skies (Cribs)
Mate. Yes. Thank you.
As an enormous Smiths fan (I’ve seen Morrissey live 40+ times) this is just a total gift. A very emotional watch. Thanks Mick and Dan.
@thatpedalshow This was unreal. Can you please extend an invite to Will Sergeant? Will and Marr are for me, the ultimate.
@@bleeknoirsecond that!
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4th 😂
@@bleeknoirF I F T H!!
Also, R.I.P. Andy; he's as criminally underrated a bass player as Johnny is beloved a guitarist.
Thank you for that. May he rest in peace.
The Andy / Johnny combo is so good it’s almost criminal. They lock into each other so well.
Andy's bass playing is exceptional.
Marr alludes to it, but please go and listen to Andy Rourke's bassline on That joke isn't funny anymore. Absolutely sublime. RIP Andy 🖤
I wouldn’t say underrated so much as just criminally unknown. In indie circles he get full respect and recognition. It’s just that The Smiths aren’t exactly a household name outside of “alternative” music. And thats just as tragic. He really was a giant.
Hearing Johnny Marr say "that's what the guitar made me play", " I have no business playing that" -- clearly knows music theory and scales and plays his feelings. A really great illustration of the creative process.
He's still got his enthusiasm for where a guitar can take him from all those years ago. His candle still burns bright.
I guess you could say it’s a light that never goes out?
You've made a lot of people very happy in a world that's gone to shit. Mega kudos to you guys.
So well said 🎉
I met him and we talked guitars for a minute. Reminded me of that time Chris Farley interviewed Paul McCartney on SNL.
Noel Gallagher. Johnny Marr. The triple header would be John Squire.
Nick McCabe?
Well put!
Wow. Coxon, Gallagher and now Marr... All my guitar idols on TPS. Sterling work fellas, what an utter joy.
Need to do U2’s The Edge next! He is good friends with Noel. Use that connection to make it happen
Hoping for John Squire... although he's not exactly a talkative guy
One of the most effortlesly cool guitar heroes there has ever been.
I like how Johnny will start to explain something and then midway through just cuts himself off and starts playing, he really does let his music speak for itself
I can't emphasize enough how inspirational this video was. It is for all creatives, not just musicians. But it does highlight how one needs to be obsessed with a single craft from an early age to become a master.
Simply THE greatest ever episode of 'That Pedal Show'.
As a person who lacks the virtuoso skills but loves to play through my emotions, this episode was life changing. To have a legend like Johnny and two of my guitar heroes talk about guitars having their own song, such great stuff. I expect to rewatch this episode often.
Noel and Johnny, two legends of our music history, thank you so much TPS!!!!
Noel’s not even in the same league 😂
@@sub-jec-tivyou're trying to compare two very different things there. They just happen to play guitars and be from Manchester.
@@sub-jec-tivstill a legend
@@sub-jec-tivwell that's just not even remotely true is it?
Bernard would be much closer to Johnny than Noel, but still no Johnny..
Johnny is the reason I picked up a guitar back in 1983. This is a phenomenal interview and Johnny is so down to earth and humble. Always in my Top 5 all time guitarists. Thanks guys!!
My favorite episode thus far. As a 15 year old kid in 1985 on a farm in Iowa, USA, I somehow got on to the Smiths, (its a very long way from Manchester in so many ways). They were a big part of my life, like so many other bands, and a pig part of why and what i like about guitar. A week or so ago I had dusted them off and was listening to them for fun and for how he played the Ric and here comes TPS with this fantastic interview. Learned a ton and that it always wasn't the Ric. Can identify with the obsession as well. Thank you Mick and Dan and of course, Johnny.
It's a real testament to how good the show is, that people like Johnny Marr are more than happy to come on here and get into the weeds. Another great show, thanks Dan and Mick!
The perfect tonic for a wet, windy and stormy Friday. Johnny is my favourite guitarist and has been for decades. Massive thanks to both of you for this. Thanks to Johnny too for being so accommodating and generous with his time.
Its the mark of a man who is so quick to give praise to the various people he works with while playing down his own talent. For Johnny Marr its all about the music and you just know that if you were mates he'd make you feel ten feet tall.
Writing some of the best songs of all time at 19. An absolute genius, the best British guitarist of all time
The look on your faces when Johnny plays anything is priceless, he is a guitar god but just a normal down to earth guy.
Blimey I didn’t see this coming ! Thanks 🙏🏻
Just over an hour into this, and had to edit. What a humble man Johnny is. He has been so quick to sing other people’s praises and give credit where it was due. What a gentleman.
Johnny “modest” Marr
My face is sore from so much grinning.what a fantastic episode.a true guitar hero to me and always will be.Thanks to Johnny and the guys.Amazing.
This is the greatest thing of all time ever. Thank you so so so much for getting one of 2 people who made me FEEL guitar (the other was John Squire) on your show. Eternally grateful x
I've never really listened to any of Johnny Marr's music, but after watching this video, I'm definitely a fan of Johnny Marr and have lots of research to catch up on 🙂
Just amazing, what a man. Love watching the smiles on Dan & Mick’s faces while Johnny’s playing. They’re all of us then, right?
Well you guys have surpassed yourselves, first Noel G and now Johnny Marr - this is the way to go for the channel - let guitar legends nerd out about their love for all things guitar - we love it 🎸❤️🙌🏻👍🏻
Who would be Next if you had a wish list?
@@John.Charles sadly not possible but would have been fascinating to have this type of chat with Kurt Cobain - Guthrie Govan is always interesting to hear from
Don't forget graham coxon
Who next?.... well I'd say Richard Thompson.....or paul weller....or how about Billy Bragg?...I know he's not a guitar nerd....but I think his playing..especially on his first 2 albums was pretty interesting and he's underrated....levi stubbs tears....the man in the iron mask...St Withins day...the staterday boy...all good sounds and songs...John squire....Abriz Abrams......Suzanne vega....Steve craddock......Richard Hawley....hank marvin.....Bruce welch....Joe brown....
And pete Townshend....bet he's got some nice guitars...
@@paulcartwright2810 Love the idea of Richard Thompson, one of my heroes, but he's not always a great interview. Marc Ford, late of the black crowes? Tim Renwick?
FINALLY!!!! This is the Johnny Marr interview every fan has ever wanted. Thank you so much D&M
Every single time I've seen Johnny speak / perform or be interviewed, he radiates with passion, knowledge, humility, politeness and kindness. A true gent and a living legend of music and pop culture. Great interview guys. Thanks so much!
Such a great interview. It's quite spine tingling when Johnny unassumingly starts picking out one of those iconic riffs. Must have been such a buzz to be in the room. His success is well deserved. I think he single handedly invented Indie music!
THIS is what TH-cam was created for!!! Thanks to all involved. This was glorious.
i'm always surprised when i look at the subscribers icon and realise they don't have over a million.
Never mind his success, what a great bloke. Just quiet and unaffected. Very interesting and knowledgeable
I love the humility. I love that he's filled in for so many bands. Pretenders, Talking Heads, The The... others. No one deserves to own these beautiful guitars more.
i dont know how you managed to sit there, see and hear Johnny play these iconic sounds... and NOT cry... Im holding back tears now, because im at work. But if I was in that room, with those notes going into my ears, id be bawling my eyes out
Loved that he mentioned the underrated John McGeoch as an influence. Love Johnny Marr and such a huge influence on my own playing along with John McGeoch.
You can really see the obvious influence of McGeoch in his playing
Was a Smith’s fan back in the 80’s, but Marr’s work on The The’s Dusk takes that album to another level. What a fantastic player and humble person. Great job guys!
Once of my favourites of all time
If only they had produced it with the guitar more forward, vocals further back. Think how expressive morrissey was but the vocals were in the song, not infront of johnnys guitar. Completely different bands I’m aware but bring marr forward if you have him
The best Johnny Marr interview I've ever seen. By obsessives for obsessives - and fans who want the details. I actually have tears in my eyes as I write this (yes, I'm prone to over sentimentality!). Thank you so much.
And thanks Johnny. Your musicality, fluidity, arpeggios, riffs and progressions have run through my mind for 40 years. And the fact that I can now play a lot of them still quietly stuns me occasionally. At the time your playing was simply voodoo to me.
And yeah John McGeoch was astounding. Spellbound. Jesus.
Probably one of the best guitarist interviews I’ve ever seen. Great show. Thx all. Thank you JM. Continued success!
Every riff he plays is magic. What a talent. And what a blessing that we get to experience it.
Never has a person brought so much beauty to an instrument. Isn't it amazing that the electric guitar had been out for decades, and he created a completely different style and feel than anyone that had come before him?
I absolutely love at the start, where the boys are listening, and JM completes the intro, and at the same time they blush, after the realization of what they are about to embark upon..
Some days If you're very very good, that dream of Johnny on the Pedal Show comes true and nothing else matters for 2 hours and then you can restart it all over again.
Thank you guys for this. It was perfect. Its the single greatest thing my little eyes will ever see.
Can't wait for my copy of 'Marr's Guitars' to arrive. No doubt I'll be watching this episode many many times, brilliant!
What a gift to see Johnny play these songs and tell these stories! Thanks to all involved.
This is the very best of TH-cam , wonderful. Johnny is a complete one off. When I first heard and saw him in 1983 he sounded like he was from another planet. Soundtrack of my life.
This made my week. So thoughtful and sensitive. What a beautiful person.
One of the best things about these videos is seeing the joy on Dan’s face 😊
What an absolute boss and a one-of-a-kind musician. I got goosebumps when he started playing "That Joke" on the Les Paul.
I love that he cited Dave Gregory as being an influence. It’s great to hear that hero getting the recognition he deserves.
it made me so happy too, Dave deserves so much love
I first see Johnny play with ‘The Smiths’ early 80s.
As my mates (drunk) as we all were jumped up n down, pretty mindlessly really.
I stood mesmerised at his playing.
History will show he’ll remain one of the greats.
And a thoroughly nice fella ta boot.
Love him.
Best interview I’ve ever seen with him and his guitars.
Well done guys.
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I have loved Johnny Marr since my brother obsessively played Smiths albums when we were much younger; brilliant melodies and progressions that put the guitar front and center in a completely unique way. I honestly never thought I'd get the chance to see him live, but then one day I wemt with my wife to see R.E.M. at nearby Merriweather Post Pavilion in Columbia, MD. Somehow I had no idea he had recently joined the opening band, but then I wasn't as familiar with Modest Mouse. Imagine my amazement when the band walked on stage and out strolls Johnny F'ing Marr with a Jag! We were all blown away. Thanks so much for this fantastic interview!!!
I've been a keyboard player for 56 years and a guitar player for 44 years. I've played in bar bands since I was 16 so even at 60 years old I am always looking for inspiration to keep music exciting for me. I have found my source of inspiration right here at That Pedal Show. The chemistry between you two is just phenomenal. You two both play and never play the same riff twice. Man I could sit and listen to you 2 noodling around on guitars for hours. I wish you guys would release song tunes with just you two and the drummer and switch off between guitars and bass. Man you are so inspiring to me. How I love this channel. I love the gear demos and talk, but man when you 2 fire up the Les Paul and the Tele it really gets interesting to me. Thanks guys !
Just one word: Beautiful.
Beautiful, beautiful music.
Johnny, you're a legend, thank you for all your beautiful music - it's been a massive personal inspiration to me.
There's something about your courageous playing and the sound that emerges that hits me on a deep, emotional level.
The brilliance here is hearing these seemingly meandering chord changes and codas, which feel loose and wayward in nature, BUT are so inviting of melody that they fuse into something iconic - genius songwriting.
Mick and Dan, thank you so much for making this happen, what an incredible interview with Johnny Marr and so much insight and inspiration 🙏
Thank you Sean, that’s very kind of you!
Seeing the joy on your faces with every note played by Johnny Marr lets me know that, even with 377 thousand subscribers, you are still fans of music from 1984/85/86. I would love to be able to conduct an interview like this. Congratulations on your work.
Marr…..one of the most underrated songwriters of our time
What? Lol
that word again...
Wow! This video will not only be big, but will be a museum piece for the future generations of guitarists who will be influenced by Jonny Marr. Well done guys!
Probably the only one guitarist that can always put a smile on people’s face.
Best episode ever. And I love you guys for not controlling the pace and letting him gather his thoughts and talk. Huge!!! Brass In Pocket slayed me.
After a Modest Mouse show I was fortunate enough to hang in the green room and back stage chatting guitars with Johnny. He is a Prince of a man…one of my favorite guitarists.
Marr is such an intelligent, erudite, and lucid interviewee. How illuminating to hear him talk of his career and interests etc.
This is ridiculously good. Seeing Mick and Dan’s faces every time Johnny plays…
Agreed. I'm listening in work. I'm sneaking a look at my phone when a new guitar is presented and also to see Mick and Dan's faces when Mr. Marr plays.
This really made my day!! Massive Johnny Marr fan! Thank you Mick, Dan and Johnny!
Marr 's genius as a guitarist and one of inestimable influence is undeniable. In interviews and showcases such as this he invariably comes across as thoughtful, modest and refreshingly generous in his willingness to acknowledge and celebrate his musical collaborators, heroes and influences.
As much as ‘This Charming Man' and 'How Soon Is Now' bend my head, Johnny’s input with The The floors me. He’s mesmerising to watch and hear in ‘The The vs The Rest Of The World.' I love his "the guitar made me do it" attitude.
Utterly speechless. We've waited years for this one.
Oh man, this is already my favourite video on TH-cam - Thank you so much for this doing this and thank you Johnny for being the soundtrack of my life.
This is a dream come true. First getting Marr’s Guitars earlier in the week and now seeing this wonderful interview. Johnny has been my hero since that moment when I first saw him on TOTP almost 40 years ago. The word genius is overused but in his case it is most certainly deserved. Thanks guys for a belter of a show!
I believe that no matter how this world might have evolved, that Johnny Marr was always going to have been considered a very important guitarist.
Love this show. Thanks
I love how the guys are just in awe when JM starts playing those famous riffs. i would love to jam with him.
What a treat! Thanks so much guys!
I feel so lucky to have seen Johnny with The Smiths, at the New Theatre Oxford in 1985, and will never forget that incredible evening! Such an original, inventive, and influential musician!
Damn, I’m going to want to be commenting all the way through this - so many memories - I’ll leave it at young teenaged me seeing Johnny playing the Ric on The Tube on a Friday night (This Charming Man) - it changed my relationship with guitars forever, and still shows up in my playing ALL THE TIME! Thanks, TPS for making this happen!
Saw him live with The Johnny Marr Orchestra in Manchester recently. Amazing! Brilliant, humble guy who is without a doubt, one of the best musicians and song writers ever!
This video makes me appreciate Marr as a guitarist so much more than I ever have before
I had the extreme privilege of meeting Johnny yesterday at his Spirit Power LP release - a man of the people’s an understatement, portrayed even better here. Seriously great work TPS.
I might be weird, but I found this so heart-warming. Thank you, friends.
It was joyful, and the space and time D & M gave him to properly compose his comments is an object lesson to interviewers everywhere.
Pausing halfway through to say that this video is an absolutely gift, an historical conversation. Ed, Noel, now Johnny; if you can have John Mayer one day you'll have interviewed my Mt Rushmore of living guitar players. Your work, gentlemen, is truly appreciated.
I am so excited about this video. Johnny Marr is my favorite guitarist, hands down. I love the pretty melodies and his ability to play so fast. He's not a show off, he's modest. Totally cool. Can't wait to tell my Smiths/Marr fans friends about this interview. It's so professional. I hear every word he says and the close ups come through really clean. Thank fellas! Cheers.
Johnny Marr............WOW ! Johnny Marr's guitars........GASP ! Who else could cite Steve Diggle with admiration & sincerity ? JM is a living legend !
Melody and music dripping out of his fingers! Those chord changes! Those arpeggios! THIS is what makes him a GREAT guitarist. The MUSIC.
I think it's safe to say that Johnny likes his Fender amps! Johnny is a Master Class in using triads up and down the neck. Thanks so much for this!
Was gratified to hear Johnny give a shout-out to John McGeoch of the Banshees.
Thank you guys! I'll admit to a little bit of fanboying over here. It was Johnny Marr and Peter Buck who convinced me my first electric guitar had to be a jetglo 360, after 10 years of playing nothing but acoustic guitar. The '80s were magic for me. I very much appreciated how Johnny's "hooks" were melodies that came out of the lush open chords. It's still influences my writing and my playing today. ❤️
Peter Buck !! Nominated for next TPS guest 😊
Peter Buck really deserves more credit than he gets, amazing guitarist running parallel to Johnny but over in America
Yeah UK has Johnny and US has Peter Buck. C'mon!
Each guitar part in each song is a creation, a work of art, and has a life of its own. Thank you Mr. Marr for your contribution to our lives.
Johnny is absolutely amazing I love how he displays different guitars make different songs. Brilliant interview guys.
I’ve seen many interviews with Johnny and this tops them all, giving us a front row seat to the making of history. And he’s such a good and gracious interviewee.
This great conversation here in this video is super great for bassists (like myself) too!!
I would like to mention something very obvious here, but it’s personal to me:
I’m 51. I started playing bass in ‘86. Still playing gigs weekly. Started out with U2 songs of course, because the seemed ‘easy’!
Than, about a year in, I tried out the first Smiths’ songs. Took me some years, 🤣...
I’d like to mention The Smiths bassist Any Rourke here. He had such talent and taste!
And he had the opportunity to play with the great Johnny Marr. I guess Andy was the perfect bassist at the time to play Johnny Marr’s compositions.
I’m enjoying this great conversation on TPS with Johnny Marr so much! All the guitars are freakin’ there and he’s playing them for us like it’s nothing! Makes me a happy camper for sure!
I’m gettin’ that book, I will!
But in my bassplayers’ little brain, I also here Andy’s basslines. A beautiful thing!
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Thank you Dan and Mick as well as Johnny Marr for this great video. I was very friendly with Seymour Stein @ Sire records. He would always bring in the different groups that he would sign and let them pick out guitars at our three stores on west 48th street NYC. He brought in my friend David Byrne and Tina Weymouth. The Ramones Dee Dee Ramone , Chrisssie Hynde and Johnny Marr. to name a few greats. Thank you Johnny Marr for mentioning We Buy Guitars and for buying your Gibson ES355 from us. Regards RIchard Friedman from We Buy Guitars / Stuyvesant Music
Nobody plays more beautiful emotive melodies like JM, they get under your skin and resonate the soul and your hooked for life.
Thoroughly enjoyed the interview and his explanations on guitars which were beneficial to certain songs.🎸
Seen him recently in Manchester and it was nice of him to say hi and allowed me to have a quick chat and show my respect for one of the pioneers of tracks of my youth growing up in Manchester and following Man City back in the day.
All the best Johnny 👍🏾
Thank you thank you thank you. Best episode ever. Johnnys guitar playing has been a constant through my life. From the smiths, the the, Kirsty macoll, electronic, etc etc. He just has melody following through his veins I was lucky enough to meet him once.
I don't know a lot of Johnny's work outside of The Smiths and Modest Mouse but that's gonna change after watching this! What a fantastic musician as well as a humble, kind, self-aware human.
Check out his work in Electronic & The The. Good stuff.
Just epic. I would never watch such a long video on here, but there's a first time for everything, eh? My favourite TH-cam video ! I'll definitely be watching each little part of this again in detail. His whole approach to guitars and guitar playing is one which resonates with me. Nothing conventional and nothing predictable because he never rests on his laurels; always pushing against the boundaries in his own way. A complete legend. Thanks guys, and thanks Johnny.
The Smiths with Johnny Marr's uplifting guitar work defined the 80's for me. Absolutely the best show guys, that 335 $$$$?
I've been glued throughout the interview- thank you for doing this and thank you Johnny Marr for taking the time to do this.