@@DeltaXray444 you guys just switched times on me again do you have antenna theory in your repitoire question : iif one takes halve wave horizontal dipole and 1/2 wave antron 99 on individual 90' runs add a 75 ohm COphase harness at radio end would the resultant pattern be spherical and would reflective swr stay mild??
@@georgegetterdone896 hi George, I'm not sure if that would work or even have any idea what the radiation pattern would look like, it may be better to run the dimensions through a software program for antenna modelling, I've tried co-phasing different antennas thinking they would work better but never had any luck, not only that the SWR was mainly through the roof.. The best I could do was co-phase two mobile antennas I got the SWR down to a reasonable level but performance didn't seem any better and the radiation pattern was a little directional.. Nowadays I just use an antenna that suits the environment with as little noise as possible. I have always stipulated regardless of any antenna's brand name or price in there respected categories when measured to frequency all 5/8th waves or halfwaves will always perform the same and any meter reading for each category will be the same on the needle reading.. so basically the cheapest half wave antenna compared to the biggest brand name and highest cost antenna will both perform the same when measured to frequency. There is no secret hidden formula to make antennas work better than they should it's just getting the best tune and having resonance, also any antenna when SWR'd to it's optimal point can only be resonant on only one frequency, if you move a channel up or down from that resonant frequency you start to move away from the antennas best performing frequency.. Tuning an antenna with a low Swr doesn't mean the antenna works best there, it the one single frequency the antenna resonates on which will have the best performance.. Both myself and Drew messed around for shy of a year to get out antennas to both resonate on the channel we had chosen to talk on which was 27.415.. Looking at the success we had with over 200 contacts I would say we were successful and proved a point along the way.
@@DeltaXray444 yes I would say so I been playing around with homemade antennas since the 1970s but never actually dealt with co phased In my minds eye I see it creating something similar to sphere of a pattern but the issue is if I can add the harness at radio end and barrel into the 2 feeds present roughly 9' of 75 ohm to 50 for remain of run since 75 ohm apparently has higher loss result than 50 ohm so would try to maintain loss to minimum but even mfg companies of coax couldn't answer the theory question just went into full length losses and sent me to website : we boost , which was primarily cell equipt and coax for cell phones
@@georgegetterdone896 well using cell phone algorithms won't get you any further 😂 All I can say my friend is experiment and see what happens, I've used a barrel connector to run two pieces of coax into each antenna and a three way connector. At the time I played around co-phasing antennas I thought there would be some significant difference but alas I was sadly disappointed with my results..
What a great contact Glenn, The audio was great and powerful. Man oh Man do we have some contacts out of ours and then added into our overall contacts all over it's amazing the friends we have made. What great times we have so many videos of things and contacts that should not be possible. But we have them and will have many to come in the future.
Oh yes my friend, we did so many contacts and made so many good friends and it's incredible the amount of contacts we made day after day.. the nice thing is it's not over yet and there is much more to come, Radio is amazing may it last throughout this cycle and beyond.
LOL, I was just thinking about this group of contacts. lol
It's a very small world Drew, this is one contact to remember for sure.
@@DeltaXray444 you guys just switched times on me again do you have antenna theory in your repitoire question : iif one takes halve wave horizontal dipole and 1/2 wave antron 99 on individual 90' runs add a 75 ohm COphase harness at radio end would the resultant pattern be spherical and would reflective swr stay mild??
@@georgegetterdone896 hi George, I'm not sure if that would work or even have any idea what the radiation pattern would look like, it may be better to run the dimensions through a software program for antenna modelling, I've tried co-phasing different antennas thinking they would work better but never had any luck, not only that the SWR was mainly through the roof..
The best I could do was co-phase two mobile antennas I got the SWR down to a reasonable level but performance didn't seem any better and the radiation pattern was a little directional..
Nowadays I just use an antenna that suits the environment with as little noise as possible.
I have always stipulated regardless of any antenna's brand name or price in there respected categories when measured to frequency all 5/8th waves or halfwaves will always perform the same and any meter reading for each category will be the same on the needle reading.. so basically the cheapest half wave antenna compared to the biggest brand name and highest cost antenna will both perform the same when measured to frequency.
There is no secret hidden formula to make antennas work better than they should it's just getting the best tune and having resonance, also any antenna when SWR'd to it's optimal point can only be resonant on only one frequency, if you move a channel up or down from that resonant frequency you start to move away from the antennas best performing frequency..
Tuning an antenna with a low Swr doesn't mean the antenna works best there, it the one single frequency the antenna resonates on which will have the best performance..
Both myself and Drew messed around for shy of a year to get out antennas to both resonate on the channel we had chosen to talk on which was 27.415..
Looking at the success we had with over 200 contacts I would say we were successful and proved a point along the way.
@@DeltaXray444 yes I would say so I been playing around with homemade antennas since the 1970s but never actually dealt with co phased
In my minds eye I see it creating something similar to sphere of a pattern but the issue is if I can add the harness at radio end and barrel into the 2 feeds present roughly 9' of 75 ohm to 50 for remain of run since 75 ohm apparently has higher loss result than 50 ohm so would try to maintain loss to minimum but even mfg companies of coax couldn't answer the theory question just went into full length losses and sent me to website : we boost , which was primarily cell equipt and coax for cell phones
@@georgegetterdone896 well using cell phone algorithms won't get you any further 😂
All I can say my friend is experiment and see what happens, I've used a barrel connector to run two pieces of coax into each antenna and a three way connector.
At the time I played around co-phasing antennas I thought there would be some significant difference but alas I was sadly disappointed with my results..
What a great contact Glenn, The audio was great and powerful. Man oh Man do we have some contacts out of ours and then added into our overall contacts all over it's amazing the friends we have made. What great times we have so many videos of things and contacts that should not be possible. But we have them and will have many to come in the future.
Oh yes my friend, we did so many contacts and made so many good friends and it's incredible the amount of contacts we made day after day.. the nice thing is it's not over yet and there is much more to come,
Radio is amazing may it last throughout this cycle and beyond.
Awesome! The Stryker strikes again! Nice state side contact Glen!
Thanks buddy, your Stryker will be firing on all cylinders too 😂😂
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Hi Glenn, Great contact. Hopefully I'll catch you soon. 73 ✌✌
That would be awesome, let's hope mother nature will give us those numbers, have a great DX weekend. 73-51 to you and your family.