I was in process of buying my dream home and during the process the question of having it surveyed came up. The house was surveyed just 3 years ago and "supposedly" didn't need to be redone. I said no and wanted it surveyed again. Apparently, the neighbor to the west of me was related to the survey company and for the last several house sales, they falsified the surveys. The crew I had was from out of town as I was doing a VA loan and the VA chose them. (Luckily) End of story, her fence was 25 feet over on the north and 35 feet over on the south. She flipped poop, screamed and yelled and was a total pain to the survey crew to the point they called the police. She threatened them with death and I had it recorded. Her husband had to come talk things down. She was charged with disturbing the peace. A gazebo with hottub, fence and 20 trees had to be cut down at her cost. A new 6 foot high privacy fence went up and I now own .49 of an acre or 1/4 of the block I am on. Needless to say, I have a huge yard now and a beautiful backyard. Her gazebo is still sitting in her much smaller yard. I kept finding trash just on the inside of my fence so I gathered she was still at it so I put the security camera on it and after multiple acts, reported her and gave the police the video and she was fined. That finally put her over the edge. She freaked out so bad that her husband kicked her out, got divorced and he and I have beers occasionally. We're both much happier.
Ever notice it is usually the woman that starts all the crap?Not always,as I have met some real douche bag male homeowners,but the ladies seem to feel emboldened.
From a fence contactor, you need to have her move the fence onto her property otherwise after 10 years she can legally claim that as her property. File all the paperwork needed to make her move it immediately Edit: for all you law students out there it's a possibility they can claim adverse possession. As stated 3.7 million times in the comments the laws vary from state to state or depending on the judge. You need to get a property survey and call local code enforcement and in my experience they will give them a letter to move it within 14 days. DO NOT CUT THE FENCE or pow pow them with buckshot which was suggested in the comments as that will only land you in jail or with a ticket for destruction of property. It's code enforcements job to handle those issues
Probably not. Adverse possession laws vary, but usually is closer to twenty years. It has to be open, notorious, and hostile, which in most jurisdiction generally requires more than a misplaced fence.
So i can buy a plot of land and enclose the adjacent plot with a fence and of the owner doest realize of say anything after 10 years it's now my property?
I had a jerk neighbor make a big fuss over a fence we had installed. Neighbors from hell. Well they called the police about it so I hired a surveyor to make them happy. Turned out their driveway was fourteen inches onto my property and encroached the full length. So I made them bring in a paving contractor with a carbide wheel to remove 130' of 14" of driveway. Karma is a biztch.
There was a guy who owned the properties on either side of the house I grew up in. My family butted heads with him on several occasions, and he lost every time. The last time he tried to pull something he 'hired' a surveyor (a known buddy of his) to survey the property lines. The new lines cut six feet inside on both sides of our property. Mom and Dad knew it was BS cause they had had the property done years prior and had it staked. They didn't fight over it at the time because: 1. They knew he was planning on building a new brick house. 2. The guy had already laid out a foundation of cinder-blocks that butted one inch from our property line (Dad had told him as such when he and his buddies started). 3. My parents were both big on letting a person hoist themselves on their own petard. Well, the guy built his fancy new red brick house and smugly gloated about it. My parents then paid to have the city come out and do a survey. His brand new red brick house now sat exactly 6 inches over our property line. He had two choices, tear down the house.. or pay my parents for a one-foot wide strip of our property and pay for all the legal refiling fees. He screamed. He. cussed. He threatened. He paid.
Yeah, it is not about the amount of inches or yards, but it is about the principle, why should we let them do that? I had a problem like that, my friend said, "you are not going to fight for few inches, are you? Well, why not? :>(
wow. glad they don't live next to me. My dad had a similar issue with a bad neighbour when I was a kid. Guy was putting up an 8 ft high 110 ft long chainlink fence. Dad tried to tell him the placement didn't look right. Got told to basically f-off. Dad waited until the entire fence was done, including cement for the posts, then dad showed the guy the surveyor property line stakes (those metal ones they put in the ground), Guy had to remove the entire fence including having to remove the cement posts and re-sod that whole part of the property line. They never bothered to put up a replacement fence. Cost him thousands $$.
@@ohioitis200 Yes, but, some companies do cut corners, or just make mistakes. I don't know how the law reads, but it's probably the homeowner who bears the responsibility of making sure that the information they receive is correct. If a fence company messes up, the homeowner could sue them. But it would just be easier and cheaper in the long run for the homeowner to double check and make sure that the information they had was correct.
Years ago we bought a house and it had a very old beautiful Azalea bush in the side yard. Some new neighbors moved in and the "Karen" that lived in the house was ALWAYS outside in the yard walking around with a 16oz. budweiser. She hated the azalea bush and was constantly complaining that is was coming over to her yard etc, etc. I told her I could trim it but it would make it square looking on her side or uneven. One day I came home from work and she was out there with a handsaw and cut it off at ground level. I could not believe she did that and I told her so but I didn't engage in a big argument with a drunk. What I did do was go call a surveyor who came out and noted that her fence was 2.5 feet into my yard up near the azalea bush and 6ft into my yard to the far rear of the property. So basically the azalea bush was completely in my yard. I showed her husband the survey when I saw him outside and he asked me what I planned to do. I told him me and my brother were moving the fence over to the CORRECT property line this Saturday and that is exactly what we did. We started really early and had the new fence posts in the ground by the time the "Karen" came outside with her beer. Man the look on her face when she realized that all the bushes she planted along the fence were now in my yard I will never forget. Me and my brother got an earful for the rest of the day as we moved the 8ft. panels over but it was worth it.
Jeez, good win for you but why not make her move their fence? They destroyed your azalea and then you did them a huge favor by moving the fence for them all while listening to her bitching. You are being too good to a neighbor like that.
@@Mote78 Ya technically you are correct. But at the time I just wanted to get it done and nobody knew who actually built the fence or who owned the fence if that makes sense. 1 neighbor told me that the guy I bought the house from put up that fence. This is usually how these property line fights start. Anyway I got along OK with her husband and didn't want to cause a long drawn out civil court thing so I just did it myself and it only took 1 weekend.
My Asshole neighbor pulled up the survey stakes I just had put in between our property in preparation to have fence put in. When the fence people couldn’t find the stakes we measured and put the fence in. It ended up being off 8 inches and he promptly sued me to move it. I was furious but resurveyed and moved the fence. Then several months later I was clearing brush and found a vent pipe sticking up out of the ground 10 feet inside my property. It was his septic tank and drain field 10-12 ft on my property. Had my lawyer right him a letter to move the entire septic system as well as sue his dumbass for additional survey and fence cost, about 25 grand in total. I easily could have won in court so he settled with the mediator and he was ordered to move the septic and reimburse me for damages with the survey/fence. He came over and was crying and begging me to let him off and somehow work it out. Too late. Soon after they sold the house and moved after fixing everything and paying us with proceeds from the house sale. I found out from the new buyers that it was not disclosed that the basement had a serious moisture issue. I knew the basement flooded because I caught that A-hole running a sump pump and draining the water on my side. Told the buyers the seller knew full well the basement flooded. Gave their lawyer a written deposition. Another lawsuit. More crying. Best policy: Be nice and fair to your neighbors because it’s not worth finding out your neighbor is an even bigger vindictive A-hole then you are
I used to think your neighbor would have learned a lesson from this, but in the last few years I’ve been reminded that 50% of the population are mindless drones. Glad it worked out for you though. You’re not an asshole that guy deserved every bit.
My last land lord was in constant dispute with with our neighbors because they didn't like that he was renting his house out. When he was renovating the basement apartment due some water damage they tried to get the town Municipality to shut down the construction claiming it was to noisy. So we had a shared driveway they had there side and we had ours. He tells us one day that he is pretty sure he owns most of the driveway. Next thing we know he is getting a survey done to confirm and when it's done he had a fence installed across the driveway dividing the sides. They barely had enough space to get all four wheels on their drive way meanwhile we had enough space for two vehicles. It was great.
I have been a land surveyor in Michigan for over 35 years, these are the most fun jobs!!!!!!! We don't have a dog in the fight, and get to witness humanity at its finest! Those guys did great! They stayed calm, tried to explain, and did their job!
One of you got my Dad an extra 40foot of corner lot footage! The neighbor put a fence up and stopped mowing their yard years before and my dad started doing it. Come time to sell a land survey (who pointed ownership out to Dad) and a court hearing and he owned it.
Our neighbor gave us a piece of their property for free, that was fenced into our parcel back in the day, but it belonged to them. Since they didn't want to take care of it, they just gave it to us. We had to go through a process with the county that we of course paid for and it was win, win for both of us. Truly great neighbors, quiet, respectful, kind & take care of our pets if we are away we do the same for them
Good neighbors are a blessing. I lucked out with my neighbors too. The man we bought the house from was hated by all so the bar was set really low for us.
we have 35 acres the neighbor was not sure where the fence line is so told him just put it down every thing will be OK , I could not afford to help him with the cost of the fence, but I did help him put it down digging the holes for him with post hole diggers,,, we made a road on each side of the fence to help keep it clean and to get around the property
I had a similar scenario with my neighbor. It created a lot of tension until the wooden fence needed replacement. By that time, my neighbor and I had become pretty good friends. He approached me one day, asking my opinion on whether that fence was even necessary any more... It was mutually decided we really didn’t need and/or want the fence anymore. I ended up with a pair of “guard dogs” that protect my place as well and I don’t even need to pay for vet bills or dog food...!!!
I'm retired now but when I was about 10, the city I grew up in bought a vacant lot on the back side of our house with plans to put the new fire station there. My dad was a civil engineer and he was unhappy about the project but couldn't do much about it. As the new fire station neared completion, dad got wind that the city was going to move the large siren from behind the school (1/4 mile away) to the new site which was not far outside our kitchen window. He brought home a surveyors transit one day and with me holding this and that, he marked the property line between the lots. The cities new fire station was about 7 inches too lose to our property than the city codes permitted. He told the city manager keep the siren where it was or move their building. I believe that siren is still up there behind the school.
The optimist said the glass is half full The pessimist said the glass is half empty The engineer said you have the wrong size glass. God bless your Dad.
I was involved in a similar situation as a fence builder. I started building the fence along the line designated by the customer only to have the neighbor raise hell that I was building it on her property. I stopped building it and the customer got a survey. I ended up builing the fence about 3 feet further towards the neighbour's house as the survey determined the actual property line. Neighbors were not happy but they learned to keep their mouths shut.
@@benjaminsorenson I owned a home in Central Florida for 30 years. Found and uncovered the original marker pins after moving in. Also was gifted a copy of the original survey from 10 years before. Pulled permits for roof, driveway, utility shed, underground electric, service upgrade, and fence. Never had a survey done. You would have had me do 10 surveys. That's a lot of nonsensical wasted money.
I have a nightmare neighbor like that. When I bought the house and had the property surveyed their part of their driveway was on my property. I told them and they told me tough. I was going to let it go and just have them acknowledge it in writing. Then one snowy day they drove their cars across my lawn because someone in their house parked at the end of the driveway and the rest of them needed to go to work. That's when I had someone cut out the part of the driveway and I built a knee wall. AND planted holly along the property line.
@@philthyphil1017 Holly bushes. They have pointy leaves and get red berries in the fall that last through winter. It is used for Christmas decorations.
@@philthyphil1017 The leaves are prickly, it makes an impenetrable barrier and the leaves falling on the ground in the fall keep their pointy ends. It's like a cactus fence.
You can say that again. I have siblings who work in those assisted-living places and the h*ll they go through with these bitter and hateful humans are beyond the realm of scary! Some seem to weaponize their "supposed dementia" just to be spiteful.
Probably won't be long. Senior citizens in places like that have the same patience as a cell mate in jail. She will get on someone's bad side quick and someone will poison her coffee.
Just be sure the survey team you hire is skilled enough to know when they've made a mistake. My former property had been surveyed twice by two different survey companies. Both agreed. My neighbors and I were cool with the results. Along came another survey company hired by a business in the neighborhood. They wanted to re-survey beginning with my property and my next door neighbor so that they could check it against probate records for the original 40-acre subdivision. My property was first on their list. They immediately told me my entire driveway was on my neighbor's property. I asked if they knew my property had been surveyed twice already and the two previous survey companies disagreed with them. I showed them my deed and accompanying survey. The deed included proofs going back over 100 years. This new survey company rechecked their measurements. They returned to let me know they had made a mistake. They could confirm that my original survey was correct. I wonder what would have happened if I hadn't challenged them?
Probably nothing with regards to YOUR property. There are two options. #1. They genuinely made a mistake. #2. They were trying to "fix" things so the business would end up with "free land". Considering they were being PAID by a business in the area and wanted the ENTIRE area re-surveyed, I strongly lean toward #2, since a REAL business won't want to pay for any more surveying than needed for their own property.
@@1nm1 I didn't want profile those guys but, if you had seen them, you'd have thought #1. The way they looked and talked, they didn't appear to have a lot of experience.
Years ago my grandparents, who owned a large farm, sold the home place (where my dad grew up) along with an acre or two of property. My grandparents had built a new house elsewhere on the farm. Anyway, the new owner of the old place kept putting gardens and flower beds across their property line which encroached onto the farm. My dad and my grandparents had warned them several times over the years to not do it. After my grandfather passed, my grandmother start selling of plots of land, so my dad and I surveyed. The owner of the home place were hilariously pissed when we drove fenceposts in "their" gardens and flower beds. The people that owned it threatened to go get a shotgun and use it against my dad and I when we informed them we would not be removing the posts/ boundary markers. My dad was about to tear the guy to pieces ( trained fighter and Vietnam vet), when the guy's wife finally came out and diffused the situation. I was maybe 10 at the time, and was scared shitless. Its unbelievable what people who are in the wrong will do to defend the indefensible.
One thing I've learned as I get older/wiser AND from personal experience (My Parents) Most People don't like to admit when they're wrong! My Parents were trained EXPERTS at never admitting fault deflect, deflect, deny deny!! I made it my mission to NOT be like them so IF/WHEN I'm wrong I swallow my pride and admit "Hey I was wrong, I apologize!" With the advent of the internet and information readily at ones finger tips it used to bring me great JOY when my Parents were certain of some fact that I had been disputing and all I have to do is a quick internet search BAM I have the truth Mom and Dad!! Now when I dispute them they're not so adamant about "their" truth...sadly my Father passed away last summer I miss him greatly we were great Friends as Adults!! One of my Dads misunderstandings was he'd get Ray Lewis and Ray Carruth mixed up so we'd be watching a NFL Football game and he'd get pissed because of the Announcer that killed his pregnant girlfriend wasn't in Prison and had a job on TV...I'd have to bring it up on my Computer and show him the difference between the two! I think it took me 2-3 times of showing him this until he dropped it.
My neighbor has been pushing the boundaries of the property lines on all sides of his property. The house on the other side of him has sold 2x in the last 10 years because of him. He and I have had 1 physical altercation where he swung a hatchet at me, I deflected it, wrestled him to the ground and broke his ribs through pain compliance techniques I learned in the military. Once he was disarmed I got off of him, the cops were called and we were both going to press charges on each other, but I gave him the opportunity, if you press charges against me I will against you, but it's your call and you could be facing attempted murder charges, your call. Needless to say, nobody went to jail, but a couple of month later he had his property surveyed, and his property was smaller on both sides than he thought. He lost about 6' total. He was PISSED! KARMA gave him a huge smack across his entitled face. It was glorious.
I had issues with a neighbor as well . Once i prevented him from taking my property he started taking another neighbors property. The property that he took , he did it by mowing it super short. After the neighbor accepted the new line he would move it another couple mower stripes. So far he has moved it about 18 feet. I know this because one of my fence posts is right where the marker is.
I was a surveyor and struck this problem many times in my career. Sometimes, aggrieved neighbors would pull out the boundary markers the moment you left, which is illegal in my country. I used to put in an offset mark and bury it so the work didn't need doing all over again. Some people really are too dumb to own property!
My "neighbor" kept pulling up a marker. They actually used a metal pipe we had to put in their own. I pulled it out. He hasn't done that again. The guy is 97. It's true only the good die young
Had a neighbor bitching about our clothes line strung between two trees on what she said was her property. She went and hired a survey crew. Then, even though our association charter says that only the HOA could commission a survey, for whatever reason, the HOA decided they would honor her survey. Well, she not only lost the two trees, but an additional three feet of property line as well. Never spoke to us again.
Why are people so petty. Could have been shared trees and have a neighbor who looks after your property when you're away now an enemy. I just don't get it.
We asked my neighbour for years if she wanted to pay 1/2 the cost of replacing the fence between our two homes. It was falling down and needed to be replaced. She swore up and down it was on her property, it was HERS, and we couldn’t touch it. A year later we were hit with a hurricane which blew the fence into my home, smashing the siding and doing thousands of $$$ in damage. Had she agreed to pay 1/2 for the fence, this wouldn’t have h as opened. If she hadn’t sworn up and down that it was HER fence we would have paid for the house damage, assuming the fence was our property. But because she has insisted it was hers, she was responsible for fixing our house plus buying a new fence!!!
what state do you live in? in most states, what a hurricane, thunderstorm, or tornado blow around is considered an act of God and the owner isn't responsible. what state are you in?
@@nocoolname32 not if it is on record that it is in disrepair and is a hazard or could pose a danger to life or property under the right conditions thats when you have a case otherwise you are correct.
@@redzot In my neighbor a storm blew a tree over on a neighbors house causing damage, the victim tried to get the tree owner to pay…..didn’t happen…..., Act Of God…..State of Pa.
We live on about 100 acres it's a small farm . My one neighbor always mows this 2 acres of land on the side of our barn because it runs to his yard. Been friends with him for years never any issues . He just does it to do. People was saying after ten years if he does this he can claim it. 20 years has gone by not a single word. Last spring I gave him an acre of it. He was jaw dropped. Couldn't believe it. Would have given him all of it but my well is on the other acre and to avoid any future issues with say a new neighbor or whatever I kept that part. Once in awhile good things happen .
Pays to be a good neighbor. A few years back my next door neighbor went all in on a fancy landscaping job complete with concrete and railroad ties with the works. He spent thousands on it. He came to me a few months later and told me he had the property surveyed in preparation for sale and was told his new landscaping project was 6 inches over onto my property. We were both into good French wines so I told him to go down to his cellar and grab a bottle of 1982 Bordeaux and we would discuss it. I gave him the 6 inches at no charge. His lawyer drew up the paper and I signed it. Now had he been a neighbor like the one in this video it for sure would have been a different story. It pays to be a good neighbor..
Seriously. Being rude to the people you live around is like shitting where you eat. If there's anyone you want a good relationship with, it's the people who can affect you while you're in the sanctuary of your home.
We went through this at my grandmother's house. Neighbor had the post holes dug and was about start cutting down the bushes. I stopped her and said, "did you get a survey done?" She had not. Told her she couldn't go any further without a survey. So she got one...and found out she was 3 feet over the property line. So she had to fill in the post holes and dig new ones. Fence went up. She stopped being a nice neighbor. No big loss.
My son bought a nice unrestricted, fully surveyed, 5 acre lot, between two nice looking older homes on 2 acre lots, outside a small town in Texas. While cutting the tree limbs higher so he could mow under them with his new Joh Deere tractor, he met both neighbor's. They didn't like his two year plan to build a $350,000 home, nice $120,000 country styled 50x50 barn/workshop/garage complete with swimming pool for his 4 kids! They hated most of all, his owning a 40 foot motorhome and 25 foot offshore boat that would parked on a large concrete driveway and pads next to the barn. His meeting the nice neighbor, across the street, explained what sorry SOB's they were which had him... 1 year later, change his mind for the lot. Truly, he wasn't ready to build when he bought the lot and found a year later, a fine home with barn and ten acres in a great area. So he decided....it was time to put up survey stakes with colored tape flags, marking power lines, water well location, septic sewer plant lines, driveway and patio areas for his NEW 5 acre, money making 80 lot, MOBILEHOME PARK. Yeap! The two next door neighbors had a real screaming fit. The county offices filed his self-designed, Mobilehome Park plan with only water well and septic plant guidelines! NO other restrictions! We had a ball...driving stakes that one Saturday, drinking beer with his buddies, dragging measuring tapes, tying flags to stakes, and watching the kids ride their 4 wheeler's while we ate bar-b-que at the lot. It was all an act. It was my son's plan to sell the lot, the whole time. The two neighbors got together in their panic, offered to buy the 5 acre lot for $36,000 more than he paid for it. A sweet end...to bad neighbors!
Damn, I'm working my ass off to get some land out in the boonies. I'd hate to finally get what I've always wanted just for some douchebag with money to turn it into a trashy trailer park. But I get it, if the roles were reversed I'd probably do the same thing too.
For sure! It is plainly obvious that the bitch in the video here is not playing with a full deck! Ignorant people can make life hell for the rest of us! I have a friend of mine who works for the power company where I live, and he tells me about all of the idiots who cuss him out every day for trimming the right-of-way for the powerlines, I couldn't imagine having to deal with those sorts of idiots represented in the above video!
This is a story of the opposite situation. 30 years ago, when we bought our house the site wall on one side was leaning over the neighbor's back yard. It had been built in the 1950s and had no footing under it. 12 years ago, I had a mason replace two sections of the leaning wall. We had him build new 5'-8" high wall to replace old 5' wall, and also had him build 5'-8" wall further forward on the property where an earlier 1' high section of wall had been. That last section is adjacent the side of our house. Where the wall got close to lining up with the front of our house, we had him make it turn and cut across our side yard to meet our house near its front corner. I had the mason locate the corner of the new site wall so it would be in line with the corner of the neighbor's house. We inserted pintles on the neighbor's side of the wall so he could hang his existing steel gate from our wall and enclose his side yard too. The mason was surprised by how much consideration I had shown to my neighbor. But that neighbor was nicer than I was. Years before, his dad had done the labor to replace another section of the wall that had been leaning even more dangerously into their yard. Not only did his dad do the work, but my neighbor paid for half the cost of the materials. Good neighbors are a blessing and it's worth doing what you can to be nice to them.
Y’all are definitely good neighbors to each other. I can only imagine how hard it will be for the guy on the video to live next to the angry folks that were yelling from their porch.
When my kids were toddlers my Mormon next door neighbor had two toddlers also. The back of our adjoining condos faced a busy street. When they put up a fence to enclose their yard to keep the kids safe; they enclosed my yard too~! Very generous and thoughtful of them.
When I was a teen, my parents had a neighbor who tried this sort of stunt THREE times -- twice to try and steal a slice of our yard for himself (the first time he claimed his property line extended ten feet into our yard... the second time was a few years later for three feet, which I think was just so he could steal my Mom's pineapple garden without having to sneak into our yard at 3am like he usually did... 🤨). The third one was just to be petty (he complained to the county that our front fence was too close to the road and paid for a resurvey, hoping to clip some of our front lawn)... our fence was spot on tho, so I guess the surveyors had some nice income from him haha! Many years later, we also had a church try to dump some unused and overgrown property on us (on the opposite side of the lot from the greedy neighbor) because they didn't want to bring it up to code. They claimed the survey was off and that we were actually the owners of most of their mess. While the idea of extending our property fifteen feet was appealing, the cost to clean up that little stretch wasn't. That fifteen foot stretch was packed with trees that were too close to our fence and completely overgrown with weeds and underbrush. In the end, we politely refuted the church's claim and (after they declined to pay for a survey that they knew would confirm what we were saying) they wound up being forced by the county to do a fair bit of expensive work, with the pastor hatefully glaring at us like a demon the whole while. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes I guess 🤣
with the value of land being what it is , i would have taken the land , but first they would sign a contract that they agree fully that the land is mine , no taking it back after I cleaned it up you know you can't trust these "christians" they are all a bunch of sinners , says so in the bible
If unaware or lazy neighbors ignore encroachments for long enough, the theft can become legal or technically unimpeachable as an easement, which is great when it works in favor of anything that would screw over people like this angry but legally incompetent next door neighbor caricature that somehow was brought to life from the sitcom script that it hails from. Though, if I were yanked into this real life universe from the ridiculous, inverse twilight zone skew that all laws in sitcoms require in order to exist at all... I also might sound this bitter and angry
@@travelsouthafrica5048 In their minds and beliefs, all they have to do is ask for forgiveness for their sins and they will be forgiven. I'd like to see their faces when there's no God to forgive them. 😁
Same thing happened to me when the elderly lady who lived in the house passed away and new neighbors moved in and they said that my flowers and all were on their property. So I called the realtor Who Sold us the property and come to find out that part of their side yard was mine. It's worth not letting this kind of stuff go neighbors can be crazy
when you say "come to find out..." was that due to a survey? I've known a lot of real estate agents and some (probably most) don't know much about property (ironically). I can see though if it's very well stated in the property description or you've located pins the agent may have gotten it right or wrong.
@@Scotty_in_Ohio the next door neighbor had a survey done thinking that he could prove that that it was his but the survey said otherwise and besides there were markers for the edge of the property all around and The Man Who Sold it to us walk the property with us before we bought. But yes the survey that the man next door did proved me right and him wrong and that's the way it goes
I had a neighbor about 30 years ago whose wife wanted to expand their yard at the expense of mine. He did this by digging up and moving the front property pin we shared about 4' over onto my side of the actual property line. I became aware of this because I had actually surveyed my property when I bought it and it was cut off a larger tract, before he bought his portion of the tract and there was a large tree , about 50' back from the pin in question, sitting by itself near the property line, ad the tree was completely on my side. After he moved the pin, if you sighted from the front pin location to a utility pole about 250' back that was on the property line, the tree was now on his side of the line. My street frontage was curved and there was a large hedge along the front property line and you could not see from one front pin to the other because of the hedge, so this made noticing the moved pin more difficult. However, unbeknownst to my neighbor, when I had surveyed the property lines of my property, I had put in a witness pin in the middle of my front yard, from which I could see both front pins, and, of course, I had recorded the angle between the front pins from this witness pin and the distances to each. So, I set up my theolodite on the witness pin, sighted the unmoved pin on the opposite side of the property, turned the recorded angle, and measured the distance to where the pin I shared with the neighbor should have been, and replaced the moved pin in the correct location. Then, when I got some help from my son, we marked the correct property line location between me and the neighbor, by putting iron pins in every 25' along the entire 900' common property line, driving the pins down so that only about 1/4" was visible above the 6" diameter, 18" deep concrete cylinder we poured around each of them. I had no more problems with this neighbor about the location of the property line. So, Smiths, you lose.
@@bigrick7108 Actually, as I said in the comment, it was a 6" diameter cylinder, which put only a 3" half-circle on their side of the property line; and besides that, there is a law in my state which allows marking the property line location with permanent markers of a reasonable size to be on both sides of the actual property line location. That is pretty common in all U.S. states.
My brother bought a vineyard, which abutted an old cemetery for part of one side. Just on the other side of the border fence were 5 oak trees. Their crowns were dropping all kinds of detritus on the vineyard and causing damage, plus shading some vines. He mentioned to a neighbor that he'd like to see about getting those trees trimmed. Neighbor takes it upon himself to have the trees completely cut down, as he was partially in the tree biz. Cemetery freaks out, calls the sheriff, bro gets arrested and gets slapped with a demand for like $300K. Eventually he pays the cem about $83K. Some time later, bro has a survey done, turns out the border fence was 15' onto his property, and that the trees were actually his and he could freely cut them down. He actually suspects that there are bodies buried on his property and he's suing the cem for return of the $83K plus disinternment > removal of the bodies (figure about $15K-$20K each) This has been going on for at least 5 years.
Our neighbor from hell is a truck driver who's rental house (he rents it) sits about a foot off our property line. His shed and carport sit on our property. We had them survey it 5 times. All agree on where property line is except him and the home owner. They move the stakes every time and say the professionals and GPS is wrong. The house also has NO drive way so uses my driveway to enter the property. They say they have an easement but none was ever agreed to. I know because my grandparents built this house year before the other was built. They fought with the other property owner about how close the house is to the line but the other owner would not stop or move the house. No agreement was made at all and we (my family) have been fighting this ever since. They drive through our yard every day digging ruts and tearing up our drive way.....even broke our water line once. His kid rides a 4 wheeler through the yard all the time and now he has taken to parking his big truck tractor at the end of our drive way which both blocks my driveway but crushed the concrete culvert under it.....he refuses to stop or fix it. I live in town. The city council told him to stop. He still won't. The police told him to stop and informed his landlord of the damage he is doing.....she laughed . WE ARE GOING TO SUE BOTH INTO THE GROUND!
That sounds like a situation that gets much worse before it gets better. I hope it works at as quickly and easily as possible for your sake. Some people are just terrible human beings.
If his tractor crushed your culvert sue the owner of the truck. Also, have his truck towed and impounded if it is in your driveway. Put a fence up so they have no access. F them.
Unbelievable what some ppl will go thru to be extra ornery !! It takes a lot more energy to be mean than to be nice. They sound like lazy ppl. U would think they would take the easy way and be nice. I hope the courts rule in ur favor once and for all. U and ur family deserve to live in ur home with peace and harmony. Good Luck and God Bless
My Karen was Nancy. This sounds just like her. They had encroached about 30' onto the property I bought. I took a paper over to her husband (poor guy), so they could use that piece of my property. That avoids the Adverse Possession claim. I'm certain she tore it up. At the time I didn't think much of it. But, one day my dog broke through his "electric" fence, and ran across her yard. She threatened to sue, so I started checking survey pins. Then, as I was running a rope, from point A to point B, it sounded just like this. She later hired a surveyor, and found out that I was correct. Then she paid to have a privacy fence put up. Sad, but even her grandkids wouldn't talk to her.
I love my neighbors 😂 We even have a neighborhood nickname,”Gator Nation,” in loo of our JD Gator used to travel between properties (we pick up a neighbor with a bad hip to bring to our place for beer, cornhole, cards). While mowing, we help each other out where our property lines meet ( 3 neighbors butt up against our property). We let everyone dump their grass clippings at the edge our property/field. Large items need burned? Throw it on our big burn pile! Blackberry bush growing on their side? Grab some to eat! We all hang out every weekend and all the kids play almost everyday. We have a hawk nest so naturally, a hawk took one of chickens. One of our neighbors immediately bought us a fake owl to stake on the coop. We housed a neighbors pony on our property for a year for them. We share garden crop. My husband takes care of everyone’s electrical needs. One neighbor does all our computer and Wi-Fi needs. The last few years, we have all been discussing how we purchase the farm fields behind our properties…we want a big fishing pond, Christmas tree farm, and dirt bike/4wheeler path. Even if we wanted a different house, we wouldn’t move because they are all family to us.
Love this! Years ago, I had worked 3rd shift the night before and woke up to big trucks not going anywhere. They were bringing my neighbors double wide in. Watched, got some clothes on and went outside. Went outside like a Karen but with a smile when I asked who's in charge of this operation. I asked him to walk to the edge of my yard and second driveway. Explained how he could maneuver over the bottom of my property and ease getting across the narrow bridge without having to back up 57 times lol. He thought I was coming to chew him out. I just wanted my neighbors to get in their home before Christmas. Next day I came in to 2 beautiful plants on my front porch which I still have! It felt good!
LOL, the same thing happened to my neighbors years and years ago. We had a huge backyard and one day we came home to find that they had staked off a large section of it. We made them pay for a survey. When the survey was done they had lost almost all of their front yard right up to their steps and around the side of their house. They literally had a 3-foot strip left. My wife and I laughed about this for years and years. We would hold parties and the guests would spill out all over our lawn, practically right up to their front door, and there wasn't a damn thing they could do about it.
How did you make your neighbor pay for the survey? Did you take him to court? There has to be minimum distance between one house to another house. How do you build a house only three feet off the property line?
We had a neighbor at the rental house keep pulling up the surveyor's stakes after the city engineer put them in, claiming it was in the wrong spot, and "my property goes all the way over there!" The engineer yelled at the lady, and she called the cops. The cops finally explained the engineer was RIGHT.
Here in my part of Arizona, If someone pulls up the property stake. They can be arrested for tampering with property. Meaning removing the stakes. Our surveyor was certified government surveyor. My crazy neighbor called the sheriff on my husband cutting branches off a tree. That was hanging over on to my property 6 ft. Plus she said he pushed her fence and was on her property a foot. Come to find out she filed disorderly conduct on him. Long story short, we found out her and the sheriff were friends and the fence she said about wasn't even hers. It was my fence, the case got dismissed.
Depending on what state you are in, you can be fined and/or charged with a criminal offense for moving a survey stake. We had a neighbor move a pin and try to claim adverse posession. We laughed about the adverse possesion attempt, he should have tead the law before running his mouth.
@@markwhited1785 States can and will fine you for interfering with surveyors and/or their markers, and it can amount to many thousands of greenbacks per offence !
First rule, ALWAYS do things the right way… Had my property surveyed 2 years ago, because I was planning to put up a fence. Come to realize, neighbor on the left was 2’ into my property in the back. I mentioned this to her after showing her the survey. She moved her fence within 2 weeks, I was shocked, because I wasn’t expecting it to be so quick. I brought it up to her attention, saying you didn’t need to move it that quickly, her reply was, I ALWAYS play by the rule, GOD bless her. Now her neighbor behind her, corners my left rear property, he’s 2’ over my property and about 5” deep. Now he’s gonna be my pain in the ass… sigh
I had the same problem,it all started over a patch of rhubarb,my neighbor said they owned it,I laughed and said if you own the rhubarb,you own part of my basement,because the patch was behind my house.They made it hell for us,on principle I paid 1200 dollars for surveyors,when it was all said and done I was eating 1200 dollars worth of rhubarb pie.😜
I suspect the surveyors started their work offsite at another monument and then measured back to where the actual dividing line was. The fact that they were on the nasty neighbor's side of the fence did not mean they were on the nasty neighbor's property. For one thing, there are trespassing laws that they have to be aware of, and for another, you don't want to be on the wrong side of either the law or the property line with whack-jobs like those people. They could be dangerous.
I have 11 1/2 acres. Roughly 505 feet by 1100 feet. I had it professionally surveyed. I installed the entire fencing myself. Half of it "t" posts and 4 runs of Barbed wire, and the other half solid cedar 6 ft high with 4x4 pressure treated posts and 2X4 runners top, bottom and middle. Because I am in the county and designated rural.. no permits required. All of my fencing is inside my original fencing by 1 ft of all barbed wire on "t'"posts done 20 years prior on the actual property lines. New out of state carpet bagger neighbors both sides claimed I was on their property and sued for encroachment. They did not realize that my new fencing is exactly 1 foot inside my (surveyed 3 times in 22 years) exact property line. F em, friggin dope growers. I sold the property following that event. They both offered to buy my legal water rights completely irrigated, 2000 trees, gardens, orchard, 2600 Sq Ft barn, 60 ft pond, 1000 sq ft shop, 400 sq ft studio etc.. property I sold it in 2 hrs of the listing for full price sight unseen to a retired cop. I win.
@@lylecampbell9036 Fact. Williams Oregon, AKA Dopeville. Additionally, the dope growers broke into my irrigation system, stole water. Rebuilt the system ( pump 16 ft above the river bottom,) they stole my pumping system. Installed a new system with a cage. Knocked down my fences, stripped my orchard, stole UPS packages off my porch. Our house was 400 ft from the main rural road, you can't see my house. Stripped my raised bed gardens. The front of my property is 505 with a 3 ft deep 10ft wide swale. They used this to dump their household trash, roofing, toilets, couches, car seats, you name it. At least a dump run (50 miles round trip ) every other month. Stole my mail, and mil from the neighbors. Stole $26,000 worth of highly figured white oak 105 years old. ( I was a furniture maker) I felled the tree and air dried it for 10 years. They had to know me, had to know I had the wood, had to know its value, had to know when I was going to be gone and when I was going to be back. This is all on a County Sheriff's report. None of this happened until marijuana was made legal July 15, 2015. They invaded and brought their trimmigrants with them. Those trimmers worked 2 months then out of work so they stole everything and anything they could the rest of the year. Williams was a paradise until this happened, and now, a shit hole populated with carpet bagging thieves and cons. Add to that Mexican cartels, Germans, Bulgarians, Russians.. all growing illegally and clear cutting and poisoning the creeks and river with dangerous chemicals. You were not there, I was 22 years and they ruing my life and the town of Williams where they now are the town council, the chief honchos at the Grange, took over the school board and the water shed council ( making it easier to steal water)and have a massive dopers supply that was an auto repair for 50 years. They bought the guy out with a massive amount of cash. In one year (1=2015 to 2016) the post office reported they had gone form 1300 residential deliveries and 100 post office boxes to double.. On year. Don't tell me it's BS. I sweated my ass off for 20 years to pay the place off and then ....this was my reward. The place is now trashed, destroyed by sloth and greed, and a criminal mind set Sold to an Ex cop and then a land broker hustler from Santa Rosa Calif. his 20 ish son was a local dope grower laborer with a pregnant girl fried. These people have no respect for the citizens, wild life or the land. That is the world of marijuana production.
Learned a bunch from these videos... not just stuff about surveying and fence building but also about dealing with difficult people. This guy is a master and should be a hostage negotiator. Seriously, he kept his cool when I would have mouthed off and made the situation even more difficult.
My grandmother had a Karen for a neighbor. Their son was famous for loud weekend parties and throwing trash over the fence into her yard. Then one day, Mr. Karen had a Survey done on his property, he was thinking about making his garage bigger but her dog kennel was close to line. As it turned out his existing garage was built well over the property line, about 5 feet over on the back end. To add insult to injury, he found out there wasn’t enough room for were the existing garage was, so if he tore it down, or was told to move it, couldn’t rebuild it. After my grandma was informed of the violation, the Karen’s became good and very quiet neighbors. No more parties, no more trash, even their constant fighting with each other stopped. She made it very clear, they either clean up their act or they can move the garage. They became good neighbors.
You might want to check on how long it is till the land their garage is on becomes their property (Adverse Possession claim, I believe) . Bet that a day after that they go back to being unpleasant.
Adverse possession has a lot of requirements, especially if your state has permissive use laws. I own a small chunk of land. 3 of 3 of my neighbors all encroached on my property. I let my town know… they have permissive use. That’s right there will negate any form of adverse possession as…. One of the requirements in my state is hostility. No hostility, no adverse possession. Now if I want to be a real asshole… one neighbor has a secondary driveway cutting right through my yard and another neighbor has 3 sheds on my property… town said once I get a survey, they will tear into them. But, I’m not mean. My neighbors are veterans. I’m a veteran. We talk like adults and help each other. So a shed here or driveway there… doesn’t really matter when you have ~10 acres of old growth forest.
As someone who was on a survey crew for 10 years, I can tell you this happens more than you would think. Both the fence situation and the screaming neighbors. In all that time I only had 1 person threaten me With a firearm. We left, called the police and had no issues after that as the police came and visited them for quite awhile. The police also watched while we finished what we needed to do. Surveyors have a right to access adjoining properties for the purposes of establishing a boundary survey usually after notification of the owner. This varies state to state, but there are right of way and eminent domain laws that allow for access.
Here in Florida surveyors have right of trespass, just across the line in Alabama...not so much. I'd always have to stop my guys if we were in Bama and make them go knock on the door and announce ourselves.
@@justinfox2310 I would think the courteous thing to do is at least attempt to notify owners even in Florida where they have right of way. You couldn’t assume the owner would know someone was a surveyor unless they explained and it’s unsafe to assume otherwise.
I'd like to have my property lines re-established by surveyor but have no idea who to contact or if I can even afford it. I've been told it costs thousands. Is that true?
@@kimberkimKC Not usually. Most boundary surveys we did were a couple hundred. Granted, I stopped surveying in 2010, but I can't see them jump up that much.
@@kimberkimKC boundary line survey for 1 acre adjoining my property was quoted as $540.00 1 year ago ... Used my metal detector.. found the surrounding markers... used a 300ft steel tape and did my own .. Checked and rechecked ...works for me ...
I was struggling with one of my neighbors with this same issue. I'd get it surveyed and he'd pull up the flags and move them which I think is illegal. So finally after a back and forth and getting the cops involved I just had a surveyor and fence guy come out at the same time. Ol boy wasn't happy but I sure was.
This happened to me as well. When the surveyors came back they were NOT happy about it. I took pictures and spray painted where the stakes were and the fence guys came a few days later.
The surveyors also said that removing the stakes is theft and i should call the cops if he does it again. I think he would have but the paint was a dead giveaway where the stakes belonged.
Ah the absolute beauty of a survey. Ours got us “back”🤨over an ACRE our complete douchebag neighbors just put their garbage wood and construction trash on while we were gone 6 months. Ohhh their faces when they showed up and saw those gorgeous brilliant neon orange property line stakes.....one of THE most satisfying days of my life. 🥰🥰🥰
We had some property up north and someone built a house without a survey....i did one ...turns out my property line ran right thru the center of his living room...I didn't do anything about it as I own many acres around it..but I ask him to change the color of paint on my side of the livingroom 😉...hes been a very cordial neighbor ever since....
@@smithscrete1 I llik eggplant - yes a nice deep shade of purple - probably have to use about 3-4 coats till the color comes in as deep as I'd like.... ;-)
I had a neighbor tell a surveyor the land belonged to him and the surveyor put the markers where the old man told him and not where the deed said. Needless to say the surveyor was fired and check was canceled. When the other surveyor came out he had explicit instructions to follow the deed and not the used car salesman’s directions.
We had a neighbor who tried to claim an entire lot once he was actually laying out the corners of his house and was ignoring us until we got the police involved but he really messed up and dropped a tree on the opposite neighbors house and we became his least problem
Wouldn't this be an excellent opportunity to be magnanimous to your neighbors and show them a little good will in an already strained relationship and grant them the fence, or attempt to help move it for them? Genuinely not sure why people insist on this "tit for tat" silliness. Good relations have their own reward, and just because someone else is doing something wrong to you doesn't mean you have to reciprocate.
@Keepin' It Real You can certainly hold me to account if I do that. I personally try to keep the insults to a minimum, be civil to those I meet and encounter, and try to calm situations down before I exacerbate them. Always have, always will. You would think acting like a mature, civil-minded adult wouldn't be such a wild, edgy concept.
@@VesperAegis Certainly as a first step I agree with you. Keep it civil. Just realize the world is full of unreasonable people and people who are sure they're correct no matter what proof you show them.
@@VesperAegis I tried that with my neighbor and is overgrown shrubs and trees for years. He would not maintain his own property and would tell me to trim it myself and after I did all the work he would say you didn't trim it correctly. After hurricane this tree was laying on four different properties. My neighbor and myself cut the tree along the fence line and brought all of his branches to his property. The one neighbor behind us told him he was leaving before the hurricane got here and to make sure he trimmed the tree but he ignored his friendly neighborly neighbor. So when The neighbor behind me came back and saw all of that tree on his property he dragged it around the block and left it right in his driveway. That's when my a****** neighbor called the police and they told him to remove it. I told him that I would help him bring it 50 ft away onto my front swale and I had some of my friends come to pick it all up and haul it away. So my question to you is how many decades of being nice to your neighbor before you finally stop letting him s*** on you and give him a taste of his own medicine?
I had a neighbor who started to build a structure that ended up being way over the property line. They had a crew come in when nobody was home and clear out the land and put in footings for a planned concrete pour. I called the original company that did the survey when the property was built. They staked out the line. When the neighbor got home she was screaming about orange stakes running thru her yard. I explained that the stakes showed were the property line was but they started screaming about the company surveying the wrong line, hehehe. So they called the survey company and talked to the owner. Stated that his employees had broken into her house and stolen a number of things. After that she had her kids pull up all the survey markers. I called the company back and told them what she did, and the son of the owner said he will come back and redo because he really wanted to talk to her about something. :) Never had an issue with the neighbors again about property line. it seems that every person that bought the property next to me NEVER had a survey done EVER.
I have an ass for a neighbor as well. Purchased this fixer-upper just before COVID, the neighbor had been sabotaging the sale of the house because he wanted it... this from his own statements, just different words. He said I was the only person who never spoke to him while viewing the property, wouldn't have mattered anyway. He was very indignant, complete hater in every respect and making claims as to where the property line was, he also repeatedly called the County on me, initiating false complaints, which they investigated and found nothing. In the end, all "his" trees as well as 5 ft of what he proclaimed as his down the property line are now verified as mine on County records, because of my financial situation at the time, and due to his repeated use of the County as a tool of harassment, I got a free septic system via a grant... rarely do things work in my favor, for once, doing the right thing actually worked out.
Our daughter and son in law are moving next week, we’ve all been a little worried they wouldn’t get a good price for their house because the next door neighbor plays loud filthy music while weight lifting with the garage door up. Son in law has gone over a number of times to ask him to turn it down because they are working from home and the music is distracting while they are on zoom calls all day. I said something to my daughter about it the other day and she said it looks like the man/dad has moved to another house in the neighborhood. She’s just glad to be getting away from that family.
When my husband and I were house hunting, we pulled up county records to check lot lines on properties we were looking at. It's absolutely crazy how many do not survey property lines before building. A large 2 story garage, fences, ponds, driveways, and even a couple houses, you name it. They crossed the property lines per county records. We made sure not to bid on those properties because we weren't willing to deal with the problem. If you're going to sell your house, you better resolve these issues before you even consider listing it. It's not worth buying if there's an unknown legal bill and stress from such a problem. Many are not willing to buy your legal nightmare.
I had a rental property and one new owner next door put a fence post for a privacy fence next to his driveway but a foot on my propertty, 2 yrs later when I went to sell i made sure to disclose it to let the new owners know they owned that fence post and 5 foot on the side of the house before his driveway, this way knew where the property line was, and so they knew they had room beside the house to due home maintenance, I never seen the other home owner, I wasnt too concerned about a foot of land, I live here on 84 acres, but the new owner that bought my place has every right to be concerned about that foot if he wants to he paid for it, so i made sure to note it for him to see in disclosure
Tax maps are often inaccurate especially in rural counties. They’re a guide to where properties are located but I wouldn’t rely on them to be an accurate survey.
Yes ..in UK when selling your property you are duty bound or you xan be sued if you dont tell prospective buyers if you have any issuses with neighbours
@@wasidanatsali6374 they are accurate where I live and if you think there's a discrepancy to a property line, then get it surveyed. Don't plan on the realtor knowing anything.
We have dogs so we totally fenced in our country property out in the middle of nowhere. Got a new neighbor who told us our fence was on his property and to pay him for the land or move it. We had it surveyed and moved the fence out 6 feet since that was the property line. So he lost a 6 foot stretch of land, 800 feet deep. At that point, he didn't have the easement he needed to build, where he wanted to build because he needed a certain amount of road frontage.
your story is missing to many pieces & a few things don't make sense or add up. Basically you took the theory of the title of the video and you went to chat GPT and you asked chat GPT to make up some story for you and this is what you got ! but you decided to stick your fingers and change what chat gpt gave you and you made it sound ridiculous had you just ran with what chat GPT gave you you would have sounded more sensible but you decided to add your input and edit it making yourself sound like a complete liar this story is complete bogus I bet so go on your TH-cam channel and post a video of this exact scene and I can guarantee you won't do that even if there was 500 million on the line you wouldn't do it cuz the stories BS. And even if you didn't use chat gbt I know you're just making up a lie to express your opinion on what karma is like
I love how she does not know the law. Surveyors can not be trespassed when they are in the process of doing a land survey. This is well established law and true in all 50 states. Just the same as federal employees can bypass no trespassing signs and continue onto your property to make contact with homeowners or complete a task, and can remain until their duty is completed. Census workers, mail men, etc.
I worked on the 1980 census. Found a property with a big sign saying the guy was sick of all the vandalism and would shoot trespassers on sight. Rather than push my right to be there, I left the place alone.
I grew up at 32 Country Ridge Drive in Port Chester NY 10573. Our neighbors at 34 did something similar to us and to those at the other side, number 36. They also planted beautiful shrubs along the fence line on “their” property. When my folks sold our home they just moved the fence to the proper side and had a lovely border garden, compliments of the angry folks at number 34, to offer the new buyers. Surveys don’t lie, bad neighbors do.
Thank God we have great neighbors on both sides and behind us! We share a drive way with one neighbor and when it came time for a new gate and repaving the drive we split the cost. No fence up between us in the backyard, just lovely rosebushes he planted between our properties back there. He even helps my dad prune our plants and is teaching my dad to cook now that my mom is gone. New neighbor on the other side had a full gut and rebuild and was so respectful and still is. Lovely family! We sweep the front of each others homes when doing our own too. We are truly blessed! So sorry you had to deal with that.
My dad's farm had an easement for a road through the bottom section of scrub. The only thing beyond the farm was a sandstone quarry run by an old man who would maintain the road. When my dad built a new house he positioned it at the rear of the property and used the road as his driveway, which the old man was fine with. They were good mates. Eventually, though, the old man passed away and a big company bought the quarry. They also somehow managed to buy the road easement from the local government, so it became a private road which they upgraded significantly for the large trucks they used and then fenced it off with a gate at the beginning so that my dad couldn't use it. My dad was left with no choice but to build his own road which was going to cost big dollars as it was a few miles long. So my dad gets a survey done before he starts work on the road, and to his surprise finds out that the road that had been there for fifty years was in the wrong place. It was entirely on his land. The quarry owners then had to negotiate with him to legally use it as they'd invested so much money upgrading it. Unlike them, he was good about it, but to this day he has a high-quality road on his property that is regularly maintained.
In a lot of small towns, existing fences and carports and such actually do end up on the neighbor's property. This is typically after a rezoning, such as when the town becomes more "citified" and the new plattes don't line up with the old property lines. It's not something you encounter in planned communities but common in rural areas. Typically those structures are grandfathered in and you can replace them over time as long as you don't change the position or footprint. Out where I live, neighbors usually accommodate these local code quirks with handshake agreements but someone like this woman can ruin that balance pretty quick. We had a nearby case of a recent arrival from out of state demanding her next door neighbor change her corrugated metal fence to something more suited to her tastes, then wanted her to move the fence several feet to allow the new neighbors to add an extension. They were shot down on both counts, and then when they brought the survey team out, then found the fence was actually 6 feet inside the property line and the east wall of their new house technically belonged to their neighbor.
where I live there are several blocks where the fences over the years ended up in the wrong place on like you said , handshake agreements , recently an old goat , a city boy moved in and did a survey and found out his neighbor's fence is a meter on his property , he wanted to get nasty but I kindly pointed out two things , that he was a meter onto municipal property on the other side of his property and that we have a law that states you have X amount of years to correct any border mistake , after X amount of years passed and nobody said anything guess what , it stay the way it is and you can't do squat , if anybody here lives on your land without paying rent for several years they also have rights and you won't get them off
We have the opposite issue. Our neighbor put his hogwire fence ten feet back from his property line, giving us an extra ten feet. We unknowingly put up a big gardening tent structure in that ten feet. When we realized it, we asked if he would like us to move it. He said “nah.” We both try to be good neighbors and not sweat the small stuff.
@@aardvarkbiscuit2677ask my neighbor. his entire driveway is my property. He had a deal with someone maybe but not me and he has no easement and I don’t want my kids over there so I’m fencing it.
@@brassmule a quarter of his property is road-side and he usually parks there. his carport back there has a broken down car he’d have to move. I’m going to have it surveyed and staked and then tell him it’s getting installed soon so he can move whatever.
I have the best neighbors and have live here 50 plus years. They were there when we moved here and we always have accommodated each other when needs arise. I feel blessed.
I'm so thankful to have nice neighbors, our property line goes down a slope into what I once assumed was their yard, they told me it's my property but since it's so close to theirs that they would still mow it. I also cut down a few of my dead trees that kept poking at them when they'd run by with the mower, and they were grateful for that. Also, my neighbor hates flowers so I got to go dig up a few huge hydrangeas and peonies out of his yard to keep for myself, and that was essentially free labor for him to remove them but those plants cost a fortune from a nursery so I didn't mind digging them up. Anytime I need help with something all of my neighbors (front, left, right) are there, and I'll buy them chocolate or nice wine as a thank you. I've even had my own car towed out of my own culvert by my neighbors during the winter! They are truly amazing people, and honestly I wish great neighbors on everyone 🙏 Don't be crotchety, and be generous. Most of the time they will return it in kind ❤ (but some don't, like my last neighbor at my old townhouse. We called her 'frizzy bitch' because she kept calling the HA on us for having friends overnight in the public parking space next to her house claiming it needed to be open when she never had people over... ever... she was a true spinster if I ever met one.)
I live in the middle of no where in the mountains of northern vermont. Our only neighbor closer than 2 miles shares a property line with us and we both have a good bit of land. So we don't bother with fighting over who's land is who's because it's never really mattered plus having a good neighbor you can count on in a place like this is way more important. I've lived here for 30yrs and have had 3 different neighbors. Thankfully they have all been wonderful. My dad would plow the long driveway to the neighbors home for 20yrs. Dad was retired and they worked. My dad is no longer able to do that and every morning my drive is plowed enough for me to get out should there be an emergency. That is worth more than a few feet of land. But living close like this and having a neighbor like that...hell no!
When you buy a house, make sure it's surveyed before you sell your soul. Its the largest purchase of your life - make sure you know exactly what you are buying. My neighbors had "encroached" about 5' down my property line, built a concrete deck, garden... it was nice. They weren't too upset when I had my property re-surveyed for a remodel and the plots were redefined. Did I mention both husband & wife were/are lawyers? Yup. Government lawyers. They instantly knew they were busted. Pretty sure they did it to the last owner (I suspect on purpose) because the previous couple were young, naive & foreign. Aren't lawyers so sweet?
Are idiot former neighbors did not get it survey and did not realize most of their backyard is actually our property not there's. Then when they moved the never disclosed that the bassment floods during bad rain to the new owners. They moved as well since it was not big enough for four kids. I hope the new people get in survey and aren't wackos.
D Dozier I once did a lot line for a man that wanted to build a fence. I was in the process of digging up the front pin when his neighbor came home. She asked my what I was doing and I told her. She started screaming she's getting a lawyer. Made for a very uncomfortable survey.
I was a surveyor for 13 years. Property line disputes are a pain. Inevitably someone is going to be pissed. I once had two people yelling at me at the same time, both trying to convince me that they were right. And I tried convincing them that I had no opinion in the matter. That it really came down to the legal paperwork and measurements based off of recognized City monuments. All I was doing was showing them where the line actually was.
@@elisabethseaton6521 if someone moves a corner/monument it will be found out. It happens a lot. They don't understand that there are records of surveys and they are filed at the courthouse. And you can get in big trouble for moving a monument. There isn't just one or two monuments that are measured during a survey. We will locate and measure every corner in a neighborhood until we narrow down where the problem is. If a monument is off by 0.10 feet, we'll know. Especially with todays technology. What used to take weeks could take a matter of hours. It all depends on what corners are in, whether or not the ones that are in have been disturbed and how old the survey is. The records could go back over 100 years. There is lot that goes into a survey. And if need be, we will replace the corners that are missing or have been moved.
My neighbor was the nicest old guy you could have ever wanted. He had a strong opinion of the old fart that owned my house before me. There is a row of pine trees that were supposedly planted to piss him off....and it did. Believing it was on the property line he let it go. The guy who had owned my place had died and several years after I brought it my neighbor died too. When I learned the land was going up for sale I was concerned as to what kind of neighbor I would have. The surveyors came and I got such a laugh. Those trees were 6 to 8 feet on his land and could have cut them down any time. My new neighbor is great and is in about the same condition as I am, a beat down wreck. He stays on his side and I on mine. If we see each other out we kick out butts out of low gear and into neutral and yak for a while. It might be a month or two but if he or I need anything we know who will help. Yep......I told him he could cut those damned trees down any time he wanted. I was glad they were not mine anymore, LOL! Oh, and when they surveyed the line on the other side went right through the middle of their garage. Cheers Terry
Sometimes patience has its reward. Looking at a house to buy I could see that the neighbor's garage could be encroaching . I had a survey done and indeed it was by about 3 feet over the line let alone the set back. I couldn't sell him an easement because I would then be violating the zoning set back. He was upset because the city inspector let him put it there, The owner of my house at the time might have sounded like the Karen in this video but she was correct. The city official and the owner ignored her claim and waived her off. I had a certified survey done and the encroachment was verified. My city vigorously enforces zoning violations and so I contacted the slimy city official that allowed the garage placement and he avoided responsibility by stating "because the garage is on your property, it is a civil matter between you two." Claiming that a setback issue would be the city's problem but encroachment onto my property was my problem. The Neighbor's mom was yelling at me because she thought that buying the house with knowledge of the encroachment was DeFacto acquiescence. I let it ride for a year or two until I saw a "For Sale" sign in his yard. At the first showing I called the realtor over, gave her a copy of the survey showing the encroachment and that it must be disclosed to any prospective buyer. No buyer wanted to get entangled in that mess. A week or two later a contractor poured new concrete hoisted up the garage, jack hammered out the slab on my property put it back down on his property. The guy (Steve) who eventually bought the house turned out to be a great neighbor. Good thing we didn't start out in conflict. Actually, the old neighbor was OK too, but he was upset with the city and himself.
I had to sell my mother's house a few years ago. A few days before the closing I went in to my lawyer's office to do some paperwork, and his assistant asked me how old the stand alone garage in the driveway was. I said, 1960 plus or minus a couple of years. I was a really young kid at the time and had only a vague knowledge of the date. She said, "OK, that's fine.". I asked why and she said that about a metre of the garage was on my neighbor's property. I wasn't too happy about that but the deal closed without any issues. When I went back to the lawyer's office to pick up the cheque I asked him about that. I mean I know that I wanted to sell it, and I understood why the buyer wanted to buy it. By why would his bank finance it? The lawyer - who had no knowledge of the garage location problem - called in his assistant. She just said 1960 and a metre over. He smiled and said no problem Then he explained that the vast number of properties that hadn't changed ownership in 50 years had these types of problems, that the age of the garage created an eminent domain (I think that's what he said) which gave the garage owner the right to keep it there. He also said that if this type of problem was enforced then no one would be able to sell a property in our city. Now this is Canada and perhaps the rules are different in other places.
@@davidgrandy4681 In Arizona, it's called a "way of necessity." AKA private condemnation. If a neighbor complains that your garage is encroaching, and you can demonstrate that you need the garage, you just pay the neighbor for the land, and that's the end of it.
I understand your pain. Our backyard neighbors were building a retaining wall/fence. They said it could go right on the property line, but my mother was concerned it would damage some arborvitae on our side. She looked into it and in turned out it needed to be offset from the property line 5 feet. Backyard neighbor was pissed and since then never misses a moment to pester us. Draining their pool into our yard, doing loud yardwork with machinery (not just mowing) when we have gatherings, including walking on the other side of the fence facing us to dry their pool cover. The whole side of that retaining wall is covered in weeds, it's not like they take care of it either. Parents put up a fence after 2 years of nonsense. They were angry that our fence had the "ugly side" facing their retaining wall where they never go and cannot see. 🙄
@Sunny Quackers You obviously haven't lived next to someone like that old broad. I've put up with one similar for the past 20 years. The first 8 I tried everything to get along. It just got me more crap. Not one person on the block can stand the witch. There comes a time when they don't deserve human respect because they won't give it.
Had the same experience. Ask the neighbor to wait until I had my survey completed, but no they went a head and put up the fence. After the boundary survey was completed with it showing the fence they had just had installed on my property, I gave them a copy and asked them to relocate the fence. After that they were complete A-holes ! But I had the last laugh.
random lot line stories: a builder built a 2 million dollar, beachfront spec home in our town. on final inspection, county wouldn't issue occupancy permit and showed one corner was 18 inches over the minimum setback... you can imagine the rest of that story. (turned out contractor lot plans were not the official plat and were innaccurate) I once bought a house in the rural mountains of NC. At the closing there was a piece of parchment on the table. I asked what it was- turned out to be the original land grant from King Charles to whomever, giving the guy all the land from a 'certain large oak westward' (pre USA). That oak tree is still there and marks the corner of the lot. The original settlers had no idea how far the land mass went (early to mid 1700s.). If you look at old maps, you'll notice Carolinas, Virginia, Georgia, etc have no western boundary. Those were drawn later on.
Headright grants from the King of England. In Georgia, they go from the coast inland to the Ocoee River. The rest of the state was split up by multiple land lotteries as the Cherokee and Creek were driven from their homelands.
Something like this happened in my neighborhood and we discovered that the developer had exaggerated all lot sizes….every home was surveyed using the dimensions on paper and that every lot overlapped each other by 2 feet…..we would have sued but the developer had went bankrupt before we figured it out.
Been dealing with folks like this my whole adult life as a surveyor. People will still argue even after digging up monuments through the whole block to back my work up.
I remember when we built our fence. Best recommendation ever from our contractor - "survey the property and then build the fence a few feet into your property. You may get along with your current neighbor but you never know what the future may bring." Sure enough just a year later my neighbor moved and was replaced by the neighbor from hell. Keeping the fence clearly onto our property has saved me a number of headaches.
I had a person from the city tell me the same thing. This way they can't lean anything up against it, or attach anything to it because it is all on your property, not the property line.
The guy that built my fence put it 6 inches off the property line. Very happy about that . one round of grass killer keeps the other side of the fence clear for a year.
Fences should go straight down the property line. If they don’t whoever’s side has a bit of their neighbor’s property on their side may start believing or claiming it’s theirs. Adverse possession only requires 7 years with color of title and 7 years goes by faster than most people realize.
I had a neighbor plant a bunch of flowers in the far part of my yard once. I went over and told her they looked very nice and thanked her for all her hard work and had a fence put up a week later between the flowers and her yard. She came home right after the contractors put the last section of fence up. She was yelling and screaming until her husband came over and I showed him the property map given to me by the surveyors a couple of years ago. He apologized and left. Two days later I say another team of surveyors giving the neighbors the bad news, the fence I put up was actually 3 foot inside my property line. They moved out and sold the house a year later. I held no animosity against them but it just got to them I guess. The new neighbors were nice and complemented the flowers.
@Murky Vision1986 I think I didn't post it correctly. I was responding to a comment @ Stephen Green not the video. That was just plain wrong. Thanks. I'll see if I can fix my reply.
That was great. It will be wonderful to stand on "their' 4ft strip of land they lost because of the survey. I would work there and stare at them the entire time just to record the reactions. Please keep us posted.
As a fence builder, I always recommend to the home owner, to make sure you double check your property lines. I've been cussed at, had the cops called on me, mostly by elderly neighbors. I have also broke up fights between neighbors over the fence line. It's crazy
As a friend of mine would say:"Some people's children..." SMH Cuz, that angry lady is *somebody's* child. Lol The job of Land Surveying can really bring out the worse in people. One time, when I was in a property dispute with a neighbor, the neighbor yelled s constant string of a shocking level of profanity at the surveyor I had hired. the entire 4 to 6 hrs he was there. When I went to apologize, he started to say "Don't worry. I dealt with worse" he stopped and said "Um, I take that back. This is as bad as it gets." I gave him a tip.
One of the reasons I'll continue to stay in my house after retirement is my neighbors. They are kind, normal people and I consider myself lucky to have them. My temper is too short to harassed by " Karen's"!
I don't understand why folks think they should get something for nothing. I live next to a piece of land that I've used for almost 30 years to store pallets, trailers, lumber and assorted other stuff (not junk) I think I've seen the owner of this land maybe 3 or 4 times over this time period. I take care of the property such as mowing, tree trimming and keeping people who shouldn't oughta be there out. If he came up to me today and said to move everything off his land as soon as possible... I would do it with a smile and keep mowing it to boot. It would never cross my mind to repay him for the free use of his land for all these years by taking advantage of some dumbass law that says I could take his land just because he was kind enough to let me use it for a certain amount of time. Too many scammers and low-life's out there.
In the 80s my dad and his neighbor put a new chain link fence up and split the cost. They even concreted in the post. Neighbors house sold the next year and new owners complained it was 6 inches on their side and had a survey done. My dad torched the post off 8 inches above ground and moved the fence back a few inches. All those 8 inch tall post were still in their yard a few years later when we moved. Always funny watching them try to mow around them.
We had a house we were renting and eventually bought from a friend. The pushy neighbor next to us planted an entire row of 15 trees on our side. Friend had a survey done and in showed they were all about 3 feet over the property line. Letter from a lawyer was sent to neighbor and hilarity insued. He dug up every single tree by hand and moved them over....only to have them die within the year! There is a lone willow tree left and the new neighbors admitted that it is our tree. LOL
About 15 years ago I lived in a nice quiet one street subdivision with about 24 homes each on an acre to 1 and 1/2 acres. I installed a 6' high privacy fence with a single 4' wide access gate/door on one side of the house and a double 16' wide gate on the other. I purposely built the fence 6 feet inside my property line so I could raise blackberries along the fence row in good full sun. After about two years I built grapevine style trellises to keep the blackberry bushes from flopping around and keep a 3' walkway clear the entire length of the fence. Old neighbors moved out and new neighbors moved in and that's when the problems began. The previous neighbor did the same thing with his chain link fence and built it 6' inside his property line. So there was 12' of "space" between our fences. The neighbor worked on cars and slowly cars he couldn't fix ended up in that area. The first couple were right on the line but on his property so other than the junky appearance I let it alone. Came home after a week out West for work and there was a line of cars on my property and some of my blackberry bushes had been damaged. Asked them to move them and he proclaimed the entire area was his to do what he wanted. So I called the city to come out to review the plat and they did and issued him a citation for junk vehicles. I waited a week and called a wrecker service to remove the vehicles from my property. They came while he was attempting to build a gate across our fences to thwart the city citation. They towed the four cars on my property at the time. He promptly put two more in their place and destroyed all but two of my at the time 6 year old blackberry bushes and all the trellises. I cut the 4 by 4 he had screwed into my fence corner as an anchor for the gate and promptly dumped the pieces on his property. I didn't wait on having the vehicles towed this time. They were junking the cars in leu of towing fees so they were making money either way. Some were customers cars that he had to pay the towing fees on and get back to his customers. City finally shut him down for several different reasons and they lost the house and moved.. The day they were being evicted his last act of revenge was to come on my property and cut the phone and cable lines to my house and shoot all the bulbs of my around the house security flood lights out with a BB gun. Called the phone and cable companies and they repaired the damage within a day. Took me a couple days to replace all the flood light bulbs and re-aim them for better coverage of the yard and driveway. What did I learn? I hate humankind and neighbors.. Next move will be to a large piece of property 25-50 acres in a rural community with neighbors at least a 1/4 mile away..
Even with 25 acres or more you can still get 💩 for neighbors. Best thing is to visit with the potential neighbors on all sides BEFORE buying the land. If you get a bad feeling move on down the road to another piece of land. Also once you find your little piece of heaven on earth: GET A LAND SURVEY!
Why didn’t you file charges against him for the repairs…or as a matter of principle if he couldn’t pay. Too late for that, of course, but I would track him down (Spy Kids, no contact) just so I could watch for when Karma deals The Hand. I’m a nice person and try to use diplomacy, but if it doesn’t work, I’m evil enough to want to know all the bad karma coming your way. I think I just realized I’m vindictive and I’m okay with that. 😂🤣😂
You didn't call the police on that lunatic? Running around your property shooting a gun and damaging everything?? Even if it was a BB gun, that's still extremely illegal and he shouldn't be allowed to get away with that.
My dad was a land surveyor for decades and I'd help him on weekends. It's funny what people do or say, or discrepancies like fences or buildings we'd locate. A funny cartoon he had on his wall was a lody in curlers and bathrobe saying "That's not the property line. Can't you see the mow line"
My mom bought a house in oregon. She had been there awhile. After a couple years some people bought the house next door. Nobody on that street knew that the row of houses used to be long to 1 guy years ago and most of those houses were from his family building there and none of them really checked boundary when they built in the 70s. Tell long story short the neighbors line actually went through the middle of my mom's house. She's 65. after a month our lawyer talked them into changing the boundaries to where the fences run. Everybody agreed and nobody gained or lost property. Then we went to court house and had a new deed made marking new lines.
I bought a house once and I noticed the fence was really off shape and attacked to the corner of the house and angled out. The neighbors had been there for 30 years and had planted orange trees, pear trees, pecan trees, shrubs, all sorts of gardening. Mortgage company said gotta get a survey. So I did, and when they got done I had taken up about a quarter of her entire yard. So I had the fence guy come in since it was an old fence, and put in a new one. She was pissed. Nothing I could do about it. She even paid to get her side re-surveyed and it was right on cue with mine. The trees were mine. Then I put a swiming pool right where she thought her backyard was...that really pissed her off. She hated me for 10 years until she finally moved.
@@bobswanson8464 same in many countries , in fact 30 houses near me had that very same problem , but the law is clear after X amount of years it stays the way it is
"Nothing I could do about it"? Hardly.You also seemed to take great joy in pushing them off the property they had lived on for 30 years. And who puts their pool right along the property line? You're the asshole in your story.
My brother from another mother your about to go on a spiritual journey that will be eye opening for you, you will realize who are your true friends and the importance of documenting every step of your journey. Be patient and don't give them a god darn inch cause they'll take a mile , Hell their already trying to take a yard or two !! LOL I'LL BE PRAYING FOR YOU !!!!!!
Lady puts fence up without getting a land survey and applying for a permit. Then gets angry because she built the fence on her neighbors property to steal land and didn’t get away with it.
I worked two summers on a survey crew. This is tame compared to the things we would see and be called. One lady had us locate the property corners because she was in dispute with a neighbor over who owned a large tree that anyone could see was directly on the line. After we located the points and placed some laff, she took plastic tape, connected it at the front point, looped it around several tress, going well onto the neighboring property and then tying at the rear point. She seemed to believe that that meant she owned all that space. As it turned out the big tree in dispute was 90% on the neighbor's side. Many would scream obscenities and try to order us "off their property". We had every legal right to do what we were doing so we just ignored them.
I had a similar situation back in 2013. Installed a rod iron fence after the survey was complete. The neighbors literally were harassing the fence installers. It was horrible and still is to this day. Almost called the cops on the son that jumped my fence last week. So sorry you have to deal with people like them.
The problem with that, for him, is then she could sue him - AND win. Because the court hasn't ruled on the legality of the survey yet, and she's claiming that is HER property. Sucks.
I have built deer stands that last now 20 yrs n strong, Im not even a builder, but one look at that deck n I see it surely isnt strong nor comply with code
I was thinking this too. It's a house on postage stamp problem. On the other hand, I have 20 acres but there was a dead tree on my side of the line that was overhanging the neighbors parking area. They were rightly afraid it was going to come down on their house or cars. I agreed to cover 1/2 the removal cost though I probably wasn't required to. So even being rural doesn't mean it can't happen to you.
@@quademasters249 I saw it near my town, they built a 4 lane highway and now the old 2 lane is just an access road to the homes that are on it. It looks strange.
This reminds me of something weird that happened shortly after I bought my house on the outskirts in a thickly wooded area in 2006. One day my boyfriend and I heard voices in the woods, and here comes this woman, a man and some teenager trying to peck through the undergrowth. We're like "wtf??" So we close in and get the story from them. They claimed they owned a 10'x10' piece of land on the corner of my south neighbor's property. Nothing they could do anything with but just wanted to say they owned property up north. I had to tell them they were standing in a patch of poison ivy🙄 Never saw them again. Weird clown show. Fast forward to 2018 and I bought that property to add to mine. Browsing the tax description, there was no 10x10 section missing, no sale to be found, and the dimensions were exactly the same as the other property. The survey stakes were present and in alignment. I still wonder what those people were doing so far back in the woods.....
For anyone else that has someone tell them a story like that...just because they own (or claim to own) a piece of land does NOT give them the right to TRESPASS across ANY land to reach "their" land, unless they ALSO have a legal easement that goes from public property to their property.
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I was in process of buying my dream home and during the process the question of having it surveyed came up. The house was surveyed just 3 years ago and "supposedly" didn't need to be redone. I said no and wanted it surveyed again. Apparently, the neighbor to the west of me was related to the survey company and for the last several house sales, they falsified the surveys. The crew I had was from out of town as I was doing a VA loan and the VA chose them. (Luckily)
End of story, her fence was 25 feet over on the north and 35 feet over on the south. She flipped poop, screamed and yelled and was a total pain to the survey crew to the point they called the police. She threatened them with death and I had it recorded. Her husband had to come talk things down. She was charged with disturbing the peace. A gazebo with hottub, fence and 20 trees had to be cut down at her cost. A new 6 foot high privacy fence went up and I now own .49 of an acre or 1/4 of the block I am on. Needless to say, I have a huge yard now and a beautiful backyard. Her gazebo is still sitting in her much smaller yard.
I kept finding trash just on the inside of my fence so I gathered she was still at it so I put the security camera on it and after multiple acts, reported her and gave the police the video and she was fined.
That finally put her over the edge. She freaked out so bad that her husband kicked her out, got divorced and he and I have beers occasionally. We're both much happier.
A happy end to what sounds truly unpleasant situation mate. Some people make their own misery, when there is already enough in the world to deal with.
Ever notice it is usually the woman that starts all the crap?Not always,as I have met some real douche bag male homeowners,but the ladies seem to feel emboldened.
Good on the husband for ditching the witch. 👍
Why would you have 20 trees cut down?
@@punknhead23 because the trees didnt want to pay rent so they had to go
From a fence contactor, you need to have her move the fence onto her property otherwise after 10 years she can legally claim that as her property. File all the paperwork needed to make her move it immediately
Edit: for all you law students out there it's a possibility they can claim adverse possession. As stated 3.7 million times in the comments the laws vary from state to state or depending on the judge. You need to get a property survey and call local code enforcement and in my experience they will give them a letter to move it within 14 days. DO NOT CUT THE FENCE or pow pow them with buckshot which was suggested in the comments as that will only land you in jail or with a ticket for destruction of property. It's code enforcements job to handle those issues
Probably not. Adverse possession laws vary, but usually is closer to twenty years. It has to be open, notorious, and hostile, which in most jurisdiction generally requires more than a misplaced fence.
So i can buy a plot of land and enclose the adjacent plot with a fence and of the owner doest realize of say anything after 10 years it's now my property?
It's more complicated then that. But it's a small factor
Best to check with the local agencies to be sure.
Absolutely, do not let hate-filled crazies define the line. Time to have proper fence installed on proper property line?
I had a jerk neighbor make a big fuss over a fence we had installed. Neighbors from hell. Well they called the police about it so I hired a surveyor to make them happy. Turned out their driveway was fourteen inches onto my property and encroached the full length. So I made them bring in a paving contractor with a carbide wheel to remove 130' of 14" of driveway.
Karma is a biztch.
Weren't there any set back requirements so you could force removal of an additional six feet or so? That would have been fun to watch!
that's funny!
Karma may be a bitch but sounds like you were one as well? Unless there is more to the story than them whining about a fence
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😄😅🤣😂 Ouch! That was fair. Fair fair fair. Neighborly. Have a nice day.
There was a guy who owned the properties on either side of the house I grew up in. My family butted heads with him on several occasions, and he lost every time. The last time he tried to pull something he 'hired' a surveyor (a known buddy of his) to survey the property lines. The new lines cut six feet inside on both sides of our property. Mom and Dad knew it was BS cause they had had the property done years prior and had it staked. They didn't fight over it at the time because:
1. They knew he was planning on building a new brick house.
2. The guy had already laid out a foundation of cinder-blocks that butted one inch from our property line (Dad had told him as such when he and his buddies started).
3. My parents were both big on letting a person hoist themselves on their own petard.
Well, the guy built his fancy new red brick house and smugly gloated about it. My parents then paid to have the city come out and do a survey. His brand new red brick house now sat exactly 6 inches over our property line. He had two choices, tear down the house.. or pay my parents for a one-foot wide strip of our property and pay for all the legal refiling fees. He screamed. He. cussed. He threatened. He paid.
...and with that 'his petard was hoisted!' Well played!
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Yeah, it is not about the amount of inches or yards, but it is about the principle, why should we let them do that? I had a problem like that, my friend said, "you are not going to fight for few inches, are you? Well, why not? :>(
Dude, you win for just for using the word petard. I always say "you just s#it and stepped back in it". Glad it worked out for you.
I wouldn’t have wanted something on my property so I would have called the city beforehand.
wow. glad they don't live next to me. My dad had a similar issue with a bad neighbour when I was a kid. Guy was putting up an 8 ft high 110 ft long chainlink fence. Dad tried to tell him the placement didn't look right. Got told to basically f-off. Dad waited until the entire fence was done, including cement for the posts, then dad showed the guy the surveyor property line stakes (those metal ones they put in the ground), Guy had to remove the entire fence including having to remove the cement posts and re-sod that whole part of the property line. They never bothered to put up a replacement fence. Cost him thousands $$.
Hahah love stories like this. Karma.
It amazes me that a fence company would do that big of a job without seeing a survey.
Revenge best served cold. Delicious.
@@ohioitis200 Yes, but, some companies do cut corners, or just make mistakes.
I don't know how the law reads, but it's probably the homeowner who bears the responsibility of making sure that the information they receive is correct.
If a fence company messes up, the homeowner could sue them. But it would just be easier and cheaper in the long run for the homeowner to double check and make sure that the information they had was correct.
@@ohioitis200 the fence company gets paid either way. They don't care
Years ago we bought a house and it had a very old beautiful Azalea bush in the side yard. Some new neighbors moved in and the "Karen" that lived in the house was ALWAYS outside in the yard walking around with a 16oz. budweiser. She hated the azalea bush and was constantly complaining that is was coming over to her yard etc, etc. I told her I could trim it but it would make it square looking on her side or uneven. One day I came home from work and she was out there with a handsaw and cut it off at ground level. I could not believe she did that and I told her so but I didn't engage in a big argument with a drunk. What I did do was go call a surveyor who came out and noted that her fence was 2.5 feet into my yard up near the azalea bush and 6ft into my yard to the far rear of the property. So basically the azalea bush was completely in my yard. I showed her husband the survey when I saw him outside and he asked me what I planned to do. I told him me and my brother were moving the fence over to the CORRECT property line this Saturday and that is exactly what we did. We started really early and had the new fence posts in the ground by the time the "Karen" came outside with her beer. Man the look on her face when she realized that all the bushes she planted along the fence were now in my yard I will never forget. Me and my brother got an earful for the rest of the day as we moved the 8ft. panels over but it was worth it.
Bitch should've left ur plant alone.
Jeez, good win for you but why not make her move their fence? They destroyed your azalea and then you did them a huge favor by moving the fence for them all while listening to her bitching. You are being too good to a neighbor like that.
@@Mote78 Ya technically you are correct. But at the time I just wanted to get it done and nobody knew who actually built the fence or who owned the fence if that makes sense. 1 neighbor told me that the guy I bought the house from put up that fence. This is usually how these property line fights start. Anyway I got along OK with her husband and didn't want to cause a long drawn out civil court thing so I just did it myself and it only took 1 weekend.
@@Mote78 because it’s a good excuse to get out of the house and work on a fence
Awwwwwww,,LOL ,HAHAHAHA, GOOD FOR YOU,,,DAM ALL THE KAREN
My Asshole neighbor pulled up the survey stakes I just had put in between our property in preparation to have fence put in. When the fence people couldn’t find the stakes we measured and put the fence in. It ended up being off 8 inches and he promptly sued me to move it. I was furious but resurveyed and moved the fence. Then several months later I was clearing brush and found a vent pipe sticking up out of the ground 10 feet inside my property. It was his septic tank and drain field 10-12 ft on my property. Had my lawyer right him a letter to move the entire septic system as well as sue his dumbass for additional survey and fence cost, about 25 grand in total. I easily could have won in court so he settled with the mediator and he was ordered to move the septic and reimburse me for damages with the survey/fence. He came over and was crying and begging me to let him off and somehow work it out. Too late. Soon after they sold the house and moved after fixing everything and paying us with proceeds from the house sale. I found out from the new buyers that it was not disclosed that the basement had a serious moisture issue. I knew the basement flooded because I caught that A-hole running a sump pump and draining the water on my side. Told the buyers the seller knew full well the basement flooded. Gave their lawyer a written deposition. Another lawsuit. More crying. Best policy: Be nice and fair to your neighbors because it’s not worth finding out your neighbor is an even bigger vindictive A-hole then you are
Sweet
This was a beautiful story....i love a happy ending🤣😂🤣.....cheers to yu!
I used to think your neighbor would have learned a lesson from this, but in the last few years I’ve been reminded that 50% of the population are mindless drones. Glad it worked out for you though. You’re not an asshole that guy deserved every bit.
Love it.
I commend you on your pettiness.
My last land lord was in constant dispute with with our neighbors because they didn't like that he was renting his house out. When he was renovating the basement apartment due some water damage they tried to get the town Municipality to shut down the construction claiming it was to noisy. So we had a shared driveway they had there side and we had ours. He tells us one day that he is pretty sure he owns most of the driveway. Next thing we know he is getting a survey done to confirm and when it's done he had a fence installed across the driveway dividing the sides. They barely had enough space to get all four wheels on their drive way meanwhile we had enough space for two vehicles. It was great.
Play stupid games...
Damn. As a retired deck builder, I would not stand on that deck. Also who the hell runs a fence as crooked as a politician?
@@redzot That deck looks SKETCHY as you know what. Is it the camera, or is the deck tilting towards the house?
My husband is in construction for over 30 years and has an OCD. The fence would have flipped his lid. 😳
@@redzot that fence is anything but a straight line.
... idk shit about building decks but since u mentioned it does look as if that one corner isnt supported.
@@silverpurkat Same here.
I have been a land surveyor in Michigan for over 35 years, these are the most fun jobs!!!!!!! We don't have a dog in the fight, and get to witness humanity at its finest! Those guys did great! They stayed calm, tried to explain, and did their job!
One of you got my Dad an extra 40foot of corner lot footage! The neighbor put a fence up and stopped mowing their yard years before and my dad started doing it. Come time to sell a land survey (who pointed ownership out to Dad) and a court hearing and he owned it.
This is my state to, and as a land owner, it's just wow sometimes here, just wow hahahaha
Mr. Groat I presume... How goes the landfill certification business these days? Remembering interesting times back in the C&C days. :)
@@chickey333 i got cut out of that. Lol. Who is this?
@@mikegroat7732 Denny STS
Our neighbor gave us a piece of their property for free, that was fenced into our parcel back in the day, but it belonged to them. Since they didn't want to take care of it, they just gave it to us. We had to go through a process with the county that we of course paid for and it was win, win for both of us. Truly great neighbors, quiet, respectful, kind & take care of our pets if we are away we do the same for them
Perfect example of good neighbours!
Good neighbors are a blessing. I lucked out with my neighbors too. The man we bought the house from was hated by all so the bar was set really low for us.
Now THAT'S a GREAT story!
we have 35 acres the neighbor was not sure where the fence line is so told him just put it down every thing will be OK , I could not afford to help him with the cost of the fence, but I did help him put it down digging the holes for him with post hole diggers,,, we made a road on each side of the fence to help keep it clean and to get around the property
I had a similar scenario with my neighbor. It created a lot of tension until the wooden fence needed replacement. By that time, my neighbor and I had become pretty good friends. He approached me one day, asking my opinion on whether that fence was even necessary any more... It was mutually decided we really didn’t need and/or want the fence anymore. I ended up with a pair of “guard dogs” that protect my place as well and I don’t even need to pay for vet bills or dog food...!!!
I'm retired now but when I was about 10, the city I grew up in bought a vacant lot on the back side of our house with plans to put the new fire station there. My dad was a civil engineer and he was unhappy about the project but couldn't do much about it. As the new fire station neared completion, dad got wind that the city was going to move the large siren from behind the school (1/4 mile away) to the new site which was not far outside our kitchen window. He brought home a surveyors transit one day and with me holding this and that, he marked the property line between the lots. The cities new fire station was about 7 inches too lose to our property than the city codes permitted. He told the city manager keep the siren where it was or move their building. I believe that siren is still up there behind the school.
The optimist said the glass is half full
The pessimist said the glass is half empty
The engineer said you have the wrong size glass. God bless your Dad.
I was involved in a similar situation as a fence builder. I started building the fence along the line designated by the customer only to have the neighbor raise hell that I was building it on her property. I stopped building it and the customer got a survey. I ended up builing the fence about 3 feet further towards the neighbour's house as the survey determined the actual property line. Neighbors were not happy but they learned to keep their mouths shut.
Hahaha.....good one
This is why I'm in favour of surveys being done every 3 years at a minimum just to keep everyone honest.
@@benjaminsorenson That's crazy. Absolutely no need.
Any grievance can be settled with one current survey.
@@eiserntorsphantomoftheoper2154 Nah, it's better to keep things as current as possible.
@@benjaminsorenson I owned a home in Central Florida for 30 years. Found and uncovered the original marker pins after moving in. Also was gifted a copy of the original survey from 10 years before. Pulled permits for roof, driveway, utility shed, underground electric, service upgrade, and fence.
Never had a survey done.
You would have had me do 10 surveys. That's a lot of nonsensical wasted money.
I have a nightmare neighbor like that. When I bought the house and had the property surveyed their part of their driveway was on my property. I told them and they told me tough. I was going to let it go and just have them acknowledge it in writing. Then one snowy day they drove their cars across my lawn because someone in their house parked at the end of the driveway and the rest of them needed to go to work. That's when I had someone cut out the part of the driveway and I built a knee wall. AND planted holly along the property line.
Holly, yes : - )
What is Holly? Forgive me I probably already know I just can't picture what it is that you did along with the small wall
@@philthyphil1017 Holly bushes. They have pointy leaves and get red berries in the fall that last through winter. It is used for Christmas decorations.
@@philthyphil1017 The leaves are prickly, it makes an impenetrable barrier and the leaves falling on the ground in the fall keep their pointy ends. It's like a cactus fence.
I feel sorry for the people that will have to live with her in an assisted living facility.
You can say that again. I have siblings who work in those assisted-living places and the h*ll they go through with these bitter and hateful humans are beyond the realm of scary! Some seem to weaponize their "supposed dementia" just to be spiteful.
Bet you don’t see how your the same
@@seabournewolf2298 Bet you don't either.
Lol I was thinking exact thing about HIM!! He gave you a heart. Omg this guy is sick he desperately needed that comment. Lol.
Probably won't be long. Senior citizens in places like that have the same patience as a cell mate in jail. She will get on someone's bad side quick and someone will poison her coffee.
Just be sure the survey team you hire is skilled enough to know when they've made a mistake. My former property had been surveyed twice by two different survey companies. Both agreed. My neighbors and I were cool with the results. Along came another survey company hired by a business in the neighborhood. They wanted to re-survey beginning with my property and my next door neighbor so that they could check it against probate records for the original 40-acre subdivision.
My property was first on their list. They immediately told me my entire driveway was on my neighbor's property. I asked if they knew my property had been surveyed twice already and the two previous survey companies disagreed with them. I showed them my deed and accompanying survey. The deed included proofs going back over 100 years. This new survey company rechecked their measurements. They returned to let me know they had made a mistake. They could confirm that my original survey was correct. I wonder what would have happened if I hadn't challenged them?
Probably nothing with regards to YOUR property. There are two options. #1. They genuinely made a mistake. #2. They were trying to "fix" things so the business would end up with "free land". Considering they were being PAID by a business in the area and wanted the ENTIRE area re-surveyed, I strongly lean toward #2, since a REAL business won't want to pay for any more surveying than needed for their own property.
@@1nm1 I didn't want profile those guys but, if you had seen them, you'd have thought #1. The way they looked and talked, they didn't appear to have a lot of experience.
Years ago my grandparents, who owned a large farm, sold the home place (where my dad grew up) along with an acre or two of property. My grandparents had built a new house elsewhere on the farm. Anyway, the new owner of the old place kept putting gardens and flower beds across their property line which encroached onto the farm. My dad and my grandparents had warned them several times over the years to not do it. After my grandfather passed, my grandmother start selling of plots of land, so my dad and I surveyed. The owner of the home place were hilariously pissed when we drove fenceposts in "their" gardens and flower beds. The people that owned it threatened to go get a shotgun and use it against my dad and I when we informed them we would not be removing the posts/ boundary markers. My dad was about to tear the guy to pieces ( trained fighter and Vietnam vet), when the guy's wife finally came out and diffused the situation. I was maybe 10 at the time, and was scared shitless. Its unbelievable what people who are in the wrong will do to defend the indefensible.
One thing I've learned as I get older/wiser AND from personal experience (My Parents) Most People don't like to admit when they're wrong! My Parents were trained EXPERTS at never admitting fault deflect, deflect, deny deny!! I made it my mission to NOT be like them so IF/WHEN I'm wrong I swallow my pride and admit "Hey I was wrong, I apologize!" With the advent of the internet and information readily at ones finger tips it used to bring me great JOY when my Parents were certain of some fact that I had been disputing and all I have to do is a quick internet search BAM I have the truth Mom and Dad!! Now when I dispute them they're not so adamant about "their" truth...sadly my Father passed away last summer I miss him greatly we were great Friends as Adults!! One of my Dads misunderstandings was he'd get Ray Lewis and Ray Carruth mixed up so we'd be watching a NFL Football game and he'd get pissed because of the Announcer that killed his pregnant girlfriend wasn't in Prison and had a job on TV...I'd have to bring it up on my Computer and show him the difference between the two! I think it took me 2-3 times of showing him this until he dropped it.
My neighbor has been pushing the boundaries of the property lines on all sides of his property. The house on the other side of him has sold 2x in the last 10 years because of him. He and I have had 1 physical altercation where he swung a hatchet at me, I deflected it, wrestled him to the ground and broke his ribs through pain compliance techniques I learned in the military. Once he was disarmed I got off of him, the cops were called and we were both going to press charges on each other, but I gave him the opportunity, if you press charges against me I will against you, but it's your call and you could be facing attempted murder charges, your call. Needless to say, nobody went to jail, but a couple of month later he had his property surveyed, and his property was smaller on both sides than he thought. He lost about 6' total. He was PISSED!
KARMA gave him a huge smack across his entitled face. It was glorious.
So your neighbor tried to kill you. Wow, thought my neighbors were bad.
Jesus 😂🤣
@@GizmoMaltese Sheeesh! I live in a trailer park, and the neighbors around here are not even that bad.
I had issues with a neighbor as well . Once i prevented him from taking my property he started taking another neighbors property. The property that he took , he did it by mowing it super short. After the neighbor accepted the new line he would move it another couple mower stripes. So far he has moved it about 18 feet. I know this because one of my fence posts is right where the marker is.
@@stanleyhape8427 Or.... that neighbor is "letting" him cut 18 feet of his grass for free.
I was a surveyor and struck this problem many times in my career. Sometimes, aggrieved neighbors would pull out the boundary markers the moment you left, which is illegal in my country. I used to put in an offset mark and bury it so the work didn't need doing all over again. Some people really are too dumb to own property!
My "neighbor" kept pulling up a marker. They actually used a metal pipe we had to put in their own. I pulled it out. He hasn't done that again. The guy is 97. It's true only the good die young
And the a**holes seem to live forever.
Had a neighbor bitching about our clothes line strung between two trees on what she said was her property. She went and hired a survey crew. Then, even though our association charter says that only the HOA could commission a survey, for whatever reason, the HOA decided they would honor her survey. Well, she not only lost the two trees, but an additional three feet of property line as well. Never spoke to us again.
Good riddance to bad rubbish! lol
And you kept the clothesline.
Careful what you ask for.
Why are people so petty. Could have been shared trees and have a neighbor who looks after your property when you're away now an enemy. I just don't get it.
@@billludy4482 Having her never speak to you again was the frosting on the cake. Delicious!
Now take the portions of the fence that are on your property, and make it into some creative, expressive art demonstrating our opinion of them...
@Randy Boone That was a tough read. Why did you have your neighbour's pants? That seems odd.
Actually, I'm not too sure that's what you're saying.
@Randy Boone what?
@@thatdude8247 I had a hard time understanding it too, I got the jist of it but it was a little ambiguous.
I'm with you though. 👍
Eiffel tower
Seems like he is a christian aphobe and his only goal was to rag on Christianity
We asked my neighbour for years if she wanted to pay 1/2 the cost of replacing the fence between our two homes. It was falling down and needed to be replaced. She swore up and down it was on her property, it was HERS, and we couldn’t touch it. A year later we were hit with a hurricane which blew the fence into my home, smashing the siding and doing thousands of $$$ in damage. Had she agreed to pay 1/2 for the fence, this wouldn’t have h as opened. If she hadn’t sworn up and down that it was HER fence we would have paid for the house damage, assuming the fence was our property. But because she has insisted it was hers, she was responsible for fixing our house plus buying a new fence!!!
NICE!!!!!!
what state do you live in? in most states, what a hurricane, thunderstorm, or tornado blow around is considered an act of God and the owner isn't responsible. what state are you in?
@@nocoolname32 not if it is on record that it is in disrepair and is a hazard or could pose a danger to life or property under the right conditions thats when you have a case otherwise you are correct.
Thats just an insurance claim at least.
@@redzot In my neighbor a storm blew a tree over on a neighbors house causing damage, the victim tried to get the tree owner to pay…..didn’t happen…..., Act Of God…..State of Pa.
We live on about 100 acres it's a small farm . My one neighbor always mows this 2 acres of land on the side of our barn because it runs to his yard. Been friends with him for years never any issues . He just does it to do. People was saying after ten years if he does this he can claim it. 20 years has gone by not a single word. Last spring I gave him an acre of it. He was jaw dropped. Couldn't believe it. Would have given him all of it but my well is on the other acre and to avoid any future issues with say a new neighbor or whatever I kept that part. Once in awhile good things happen .
What a nice way to thank your neighbor for mowing that area.
That’s the way you do it ! 😅❤👍
You rock!
Pays to be a good neighbor. A few years back my next door neighbor went all in on a fancy landscaping job complete with concrete and railroad ties with the works. He spent thousands on it. He came to me a few months later and told me he had the property surveyed in preparation for sale and was told his new landscaping project was 6 inches over onto my property. We were both into good French wines so I told him to go down to his cellar and grab a bottle of 1982 Bordeaux and we would discuss it. I gave him the 6 inches at no charge. His lawyer drew up the paper and I signed it. Now had he been a neighbor like the one in this video it for sure would have been a different story. It pays to be a good neighbor..
I gave my neighbor 6 inches once.
@@mikealfieri641 lol
@@mikealfieri641 in installments 🤣
@@GrassLogic 3 INSTALLMENTS, MAYBE 4 lol
Seriously. Being rude to the people you live around is like shitting where you eat. If there's anyone you want a good relationship with, it's the people who can affect you while you're in the sanctuary of your home.
We went through this at my grandmother's house. Neighbor had the post holes dug and was about start cutting down the bushes.
I stopped her and said, "did you get a survey done?" She had not.
Told her she couldn't go any further without a survey.
So she got one...and found out she was 3 feet over the property line. So she had to fill in the post holes and dig new ones.
Fence went up. She stopped being a nice neighbor. No big loss.
At least she listened and did a survey.
Well, I guess feel lucky she didn’t out up more of a fight. People are crazy and will fight you even when they’re totally in the wrong.
better to have the holes redug then to have the whole fence rebuilt. some people just cant be reasoned with...😑😑😑
My son bought a nice unrestricted, fully surveyed, 5 acre lot, between two nice looking older homes on 2 acre lots, outside a small town in Texas.
While cutting the tree limbs higher so he could mow under them with his new Joh Deere tractor, he met both neighbor's.
They didn't like his two year plan to build a $350,000 home, nice $120,000 country styled 50x50 barn/workshop/garage complete with swimming pool for his 4 kids!
They hated most of all, his owning a 40 foot motorhome and 25 foot offshore boat that would parked on a large concrete driveway and pads next to the barn.
His meeting the nice neighbor, across the street, explained what sorry SOB's they were which had him... 1 year later, change his mind for the lot.
Truly, he wasn't ready to build when he bought the lot and found a year later, a fine home with barn and ten acres in a great area.
So he decided....it was time to put up survey stakes with colored tape flags, marking power lines, water well location, septic sewer plant lines, driveway and patio areas for his NEW 5 acre, money making 80 lot, MOBILEHOME PARK.
Yeap! The two next door neighbors had a real screaming fit.
The county offices filed his self-designed, Mobilehome Park plan with only water well and septic plant guidelines!
NO other restrictions!
We had a ball...driving stakes that one Saturday, drinking beer with his buddies, dragging measuring tapes, tying flags to stakes, and watching the kids ride their 4 wheeler's while we ate bar-b-que at the lot.
It was all an act.
It was my son's plan to sell the lot, the whole time.
The two neighbors got together in their panic, offered to buy the 5 acre lot for $36,000 more than he paid for it.
A sweet end...to bad neighbors!
You sound like the a holes.
@Tiger Bandaid You mad bro 😎???
@Tiger Bandaid no, u can fit 8000 in 5 acres.
Love this!
Wish we were neighbors
Damn, I'm working my ass off to get some land out in the boonies. I'd hate to finally get what I've always wanted just for some douchebag with money to turn it into a trashy trailer park. But I get it, if the roles were reversed I'd probably do the same thing too.
Yikes... imagine being married to that. I actually feel bad for the husband.
He may have ignored the red flags before making that fatal mistake
They are probably well suited!
It's what happens when you accept head from a crazy bitch. A lesson for the rest of us.
I feel sorry for the plumbers.
Maybe he's worst but not home .
People who live angry and think they can talk to people however they want make life so much harder for those of us who were taught the golden rule.
Buy a giant fan and have a load of pig sh*t delivered.
For sure! It is plainly obvious that the bitch in the video here is not playing with a full deck! Ignorant people can make life hell for the rest of us! I have a friend of mine who works for the power company where I live, and he tells me about all of the idiots who cuss him out every day for trimming the right-of-way for the powerlines, I couldn't imagine having to deal with those sorts of idiots represented in the above video!
"People who live angry." Beautifully written! So true. We should all follow the Golden Rule.
They also invite a lot of unnecessary wrath into their lives. Cool heads prevail.
This is a story of the opposite situation.
30 years ago, when we bought our house the site wall on one side was leaning over the neighbor's back yard. It had been built in the 1950s and had no footing under it.
12 years ago, I had a mason replace two sections of the leaning wall. We had him build new 5'-8" high wall to replace old 5' wall, and also had him build 5'-8" wall further forward on the property where an earlier 1' high section of wall had been. That last section is adjacent the side of our house. Where the wall got close to lining up with the front of our house, we had him make it turn and cut across our side yard to meet our house near its front corner.
I had the mason locate the corner of the new site wall so it would be in line with the corner of the neighbor's house. We inserted pintles on the neighbor's side of the wall so he could hang his existing steel gate from our wall and enclose his side yard too. The mason was surprised by how much consideration I had shown to my neighbor.
But that neighbor was nicer than I was. Years before, his dad had done the labor to replace another section of the wall that had been leaning even more dangerously into their yard. Not only did his dad do the work, but my neighbor paid for half the cost of the materials.
Good neighbors are a blessing and it's worth doing what you can to be nice to them.
so you are saying good neighbors make for good fences ?
That’s a great story and so true. Neighbors who look out for and respect each other make or break a property and neighborhood.
Y’all are definitely good neighbors to each other. I can only imagine how hard it will be for the guy on the video to live next to the angry folks that were yelling from their porch.
And this……is how it should be…..Love thy neighbor as yourself!
When my kids were toddlers my Mormon next door neighbor had two toddlers also.
The back of our adjoining condos faced a busy street.
When they put up a fence to enclose their yard to keep the kids safe; they enclosed my yard too~! Very generous and thoughtful of them.
When I was a teen, my parents had a neighbor who tried this sort of stunt THREE times -- twice to try and steal a slice of our yard for himself (the first time he claimed his property line extended ten feet into our yard... the second time was a few years later for three feet, which I think was just so he could steal my Mom's pineapple garden without having to sneak into our yard at 3am like he usually did... 🤨). The third one was just to be petty (he complained to the county that our front fence was too close to the road and paid for a resurvey, hoping to clip some of our front lawn)... our fence was spot on tho, so I guess the surveyors had some nice income from him haha!
Many years later, we also had a church try to dump some unused and overgrown property on us (on the opposite side of the lot from the greedy neighbor) because they didn't want to bring it up to code. They claimed the survey was off and that we were actually the owners of most of their mess. While the idea of extending our property fifteen feet was appealing, the cost to clean up that little stretch wasn't. That fifteen foot stretch was packed with trees that were too close to our fence and completely overgrown with weeds and underbrush. In the end, we politely refuted the church's claim and (after they declined to pay for a survey that they knew would confirm what we were saying) they wound up being forced by the county to do a fair bit of expensive work, with the pastor hatefully glaring at us like a demon the whole while.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes I guess 🤣
with the value of land being what it is , i would have taken the land , but first they would sign a contract that they agree fully that the land is mine , no taking it back after I cleaned it up
you know you can't trust these "christians" they are all a bunch of sinners , says so in the bible
A church, eh. 😇 Such high and mighty morals they seemed not to have. 😈
If unaware or lazy neighbors ignore encroachments for long enough, the theft can become legal or technically unimpeachable as an easement, which is great when it works in favor of anything that would screw over people like this angry but legally incompetent next door neighbor caricature that somehow was brought to life from the sitcom script that it hails from. Though, if I were yanked into this real life universe from the ridiculous, inverse twilight zone skew that all laws in sitcoms require in order to exist at all... I also might sound this bitter and angry
@@travelsouthafrica5048 In their minds and beliefs, all they have to do is ask for forgiveness for their sins and they will be forgiven. I'd like to see their faces when there's no God to forgive them. 😁
Pineapple garden you say?
Same thing happened to me when the elderly lady who lived in the house passed away and new neighbors moved in and they said that my flowers and all were on their property. So I called the realtor Who Sold us the property and come to find out that part of their side yard was mine. It's worth not letting this kind of stuff go neighbors can be crazy
When it comes to property yes they're all crazy
when you say "come to find out..." was that due to a survey? I've known a lot of real estate agents and some (probably most) don't know much about property (ironically). I can see though if it's very well stated in the property description or you've located pins the agent may have gotten it right or wrong.
@@Scotty_in_Ohio the next door neighbor had a survey done thinking that he could prove that that it was his but the survey said otherwise and besides there were markers for the edge of the property all around and The Man Who Sold it to us walk the property with us before we bought. But yes the survey that the man next door did proved me right and him wrong and that's the way it goes
I had a neighbor about 30 years ago whose wife wanted to expand their yard at the expense of mine. He did this by digging up and moving the front property pin we shared about 4' over onto my side of the actual property line. I became aware of this because I had actually surveyed my property when I bought it and it was cut off a larger tract, before he bought his portion of the tract and there was a large tree , about 50' back from the pin in question, sitting by itself near the property line, ad the tree was completely on my side. After he moved the pin, if you sighted from the front pin location to a utility pole about 250' back that was on the property line, the tree was now on his side of the line.
My street frontage was curved and there was a large hedge along the front property line and you could not see from one front pin to the other because of the hedge, so this made noticing the moved pin more difficult. However, unbeknownst to my neighbor, when I had surveyed the property lines of my property, I had put in a witness pin in the middle of my front yard, from which I could see both front pins, and, of course, I had recorded the angle between the front pins from this witness pin and the distances to each. So, I set up my theolodite on the witness pin, sighted the unmoved pin on the opposite side of the property, turned the recorded angle, and measured the distance to where the pin I shared with the neighbor should have been, and replaced the moved pin in the correct location. Then, when I got some help from my son, we marked the correct property line location between me and the neighbor, by putting iron pins in every 25' along the entire 900' common property line, driving the pins down so that only about 1/4" was visible above the 6" diameter, 18" deep concrete cylinder we poured around each of them. I had no more problems with this neighbor about the location of the property line. So, Smiths, you lose.
@@bigrick7108 Actually, as I said in the comment, it was a 6" diameter cylinder, which put only a 3" half-circle on their side of the property line; and besides that, there is a law in my state which allows marking the property line location with permanent markers of a reasonable size to be on both sides of the actual property line location. That is pretty common in all U.S. states.
@@jodyhuneycutt I have never heard of that law. Probably because it isn't feasible in the Northeast where the concrete would heave from frost.
BS
I've never heard of a witness pin. Interesting
My brother bought a vineyard, which abutted an old cemetery for part of one side. Just on the other side of the border fence were 5 oak trees. Their crowns were dropping all kinds of detritus on the vineyard and causing damage, plus shading some vines. He mentioned to a neighbor that he'd like to see about getting those trees trimmed. Neighbor takes it upon himself to have the trees completely cut down, as he was partially in the tree biz. Cemetery freaks out, calls the sheriff, bro gets arrested and gets slapped with a demand for like $300K. Eventually he pays the cem about $83K. Some time later, bro has a survey done, turns out the border fence was 15' onto his property, and that the trees were actually his and he could freely cut them down. He actually suspects that there are bodies buried on his property and he's suing the cem for return of the $83K plus disinternment > removal of the bodies (figure about $15K-$20K each) This has been going on for at least 5 years.
Ya gotta keep us posted!!
@@konapuppy10 I want to hear about it too-
Wow, that is a great story should make into a documentary, :>)
Love it!
Wow. I'D BE SO PISSED OFF ID SUE BIG BIG BIG...FOR ALL THE AGGREVATION AND Trama and the people who grave me dirty looks. Ect.
Our neighbor from hell is a truck driver who's rental house (he rents it) sits about a foot off our property line. His shed and carport sit on our property. We had them survey it 5 times. All agree on where property line is except him and the home owner. They move the stakes every time and say the professionals and GPS is wrong. The house also has NO drive way so uses my driveway to enter the property. They say they have an easement but none was ever agreed to. I know because my grandparents built this house year before the other was built. They fought with the other property owner about how close the house is to the line but the other owner would not stop or move the house. No agreement was made at all and we (my family) have been fighting this ever since. They drive through our yard every day digging ruts and tearing up our drive way.....even broke our water line once. His kid rides a 4 wheeler through the yard all the time and now he has taken to parking his big truck tractor at the end of our drive way which both blocks my driveway but crushed the concrete culvert under it.....he refuses to stop or fix it. I live in town. The city council told him to stop. He still won't. The police told him to stop and informed his landlord of the damage he is doing.....she laughed . WE ARE GOING TO SUE BOTH INTO THE GROUND!
Hope you get buckets of money but if he's like that keep a careful eye out and install some night vision security cameras.
That sounds like a situation that gets much worse before it gets better. I hope it works at as quickly and easily as possible for your sake. Some people are just terrible human beings.
If his tractor crushed your culvert sue the owner of the truck. Also, have his truck towed and impounded if it is in your driveway. Put a fence up so they have no access. F them.
Unbelievable what some ppl will go thru to be extra ornery !! It takes a lot more energy to be mean than to be nice. They sound like lazy ppl. U would think they would take the easy way and be nice. I hope the courts rule in ur favor once and for all. U and ur family deserve to live in ur home with peace and harmony.
Good Luck and God Bless
So the truck driver related, or sleeping with the landlord?
My Karen was Nancy.
This sounds just like her. They had encroached about 30' onto the property I bought. I took a paper over to her husband (poor guy), so they could use that piece of my property. That avoids the Adverse Possession claim. I'm certain she tore it up. At the time I didn't think much of it. But, one day my dog broke through his "electric" fence, and ran across her yard. She threatened to sue, so I started checking survey pins. Then, as I was running a rope, from point A to point B, it sounded just like this. She later hired a surveyor, and found out that I was correct. Then she paid to have a privacy fence put up.
Sad, but even her grandkids wouldn't talk to her.
I love my neighbors 😂 We even have a neighborhood nickname,”Gator Nation,” in loo of our JD Gator used to travel between properties (we pick up a neighbor with a bad hip to bring to our place for beer, cornhole, cards). While mowing, we help each other out where our property lines meet ( 3 neighbors butt up against our property). We let everyone dump their grass clippings at the edge our property/field. Large items need burned? Throw it on our big burn pile! Blackberry bush growing on their side? Grab some to eat! We all hang out every weekend and all the kids play almost everyday. We have a hawk nest so naturally, a hawk took one of chickens. One of our neighbors immediately bought us a fake owl to stake on the coop. We housed a neighbors pony on our property for a year for them. We share garden crop. My husband takes care of everyone’s electrical needs. One neighbor does all our computer and Wi-Fi needs. The last few years, we have all been discussing how we purchase the farm fields behind our properties…we want a big fishing pond, Christmas tree farm, and dirt bike/4wheeler path. Even if we wanted a different house, we wouldn’t move because they are all family to us.
Love this!
Love this! Years ago, I had worked 3rd shift the night before and woke up to big trucks not going anywhere. They were bringing my neighbors double wide in. Watched, got some clothes on and went outside. Went outside like a Karen but with a smile when I asked who's in charge of this operation. I asked him to walk to the edge of my yard and second driveway. Explained how he could maneuver over the bottom of my property and ease getting across the narrow bridge without having to back up 57 times lol. He thought I was coming to chew him out. I just wanted my neighbors to get in their home before Christmas. Next day I came in to 2 beautiful plants on my front porch which I still have! It felt good!
Wish I was your neighbor! That is the way it should be.
What you have is a community, not a neighborhood. Blessed!
Ahhh, the Golden Rule really works ! Nice benefits too !
You couldn’t build a fence high enough lol 😂
I might be considering a moat with a neighbor like that.
2 stories high, solid concrete block!
Yo!!! 👊🏾🇳🇬🇺🇸
@@fepeerreview3150 : 2 feet thick !
Need to have that fence built like those sound-deadening ones along the freeway too. That ladies voice would crack a canning jar.
LOL, the same thing happened to my neighbors years and years ago. We had a huge backyard and one day we came home to find that they had staked off a large section of it. We made them pay for a survey. When the survey was done they had lost almost all of their front yard right up to their steps and around the side of their house. They literally had a 3-foot strip left. My wife and I laughed about this for years and years. We would hold parties and the guests would spill out all over our lawn, practically right up to their front door, and there wasn't a damn thing they could do about it.
Thats really funny! 😂
Karma can be a real bitch. LOL 😆
Oh thats rich man!
You made my day a little better 👍
How did you make your neighbor pay for the survey? Did you take him to court? There has to be minimum distance between one house to another house. How do you build a house only three feet off the property line?
We had a neighbor at the rental house keep pulling up the surveyor's stakes after the city engineer put them in, claiming it was in the wrong spot, and "my property goes all the way over there!" The engineer yelled at the lady, and she called the cops. The cops finally explained the engineer was RIGHT.
Here in my part of Arizona, If someone pulls up the property stake. They can be arrested for tampering with property. Meaning removing the stakes. Our surveyor was certified government surveyor. My crazy neighbor called the sheriff on my husband cutting branches off a tree. That was hanging over on to my property 6 ft. Plus she said he pushed her fence and was on her property a foot. Come to find out she filed disorderly conduct on him. Long story short, we found out her and the sheriff were friends and the fence she said about wasn't even hers. It was my fence, the case got dismissed.
Depending on what state you are in, you can be fined and/or charged with a criminal offense for moving a survey stake. We had a neighbor move a pin and try to claim adverse posession. We laughed about the adverse possesion attempt, he should have tead the law before running his mouth.
Isn't it illegal to remove survey markers?
@@markwhited1785 States can and will fine you for interfering with surveyors and/or their markers, and it can amount to many thousands of greenbacks per offence !
@@terryrussel3369 Even if someone removes the marker, the perimeters are recorded at the courthouse, making it impossible to steal someone's property.
First rule, ALWAYS do things the right way…
Had my property surveyed 2 years ago, because I was planning to put up a fence. Come to realize, neighbor on the left was 2’ into my property in the back. I mentioned this to her after showing her the survey. She moved her fence within 2 weeks, I was shocked, because I wasn’t expecting it to be so quick. I brought it up to her attention, saying you didn’t need to move it that quickly, her reply was, I ALWAYS play by the rule, GOD bless her.
Now her neighbor behind her, corners my left rear property, he’s 2’ over my property and about 5” deep. Now he’s gonna be my pain in the ass… sigh
I had the same problem,it all started over a patch of rhubarb,my neighbor said they owned it,I laughed and said if you own the rhubarb,you own part of my basement,because the patch was behind my house.They made it hell for us,on principle I paid 1200 dollars for surveyors,when it was all said and done I was eating 1200 dollars worth of rhubarb pie.😜
Mmmm victory pie
Slightly bitter but so satisfying.....a d fulfilling.
They should've just planted their own rhubarb. I think it grows pretty easily.
@@Carmen-us1ew And it transplants well too, they could have asked for a few roots and it would have spread.
Rhubarb over rhubarb, that's funny.
In most states, a surveyor is legally allowed to enter your property without permission, following guidelines of course.
I suspect the surveyors started their work offsite at another monument and then measured back to where the actual dividing line was. The fact that they were on the nasty neighbor's side of the fence did not mean they were on the nasty neighbor's property. For one thing, there are trespassing laws that they have to be aware of, and for another, you don't want to be on the wrong side of either the law or the property line with whack-jobs like those people. They could be dangerous.
It would be near impossible to do a land survey unless you can access any property. After a while you get used to having guns pointed at you. lol
@@RiverRat-2112 Holy crap for real?
@@drozcompany4132 Yep, I did anyway. It is mostly just bluster. Not worth calling the cops for unless they persist in denying access.
@@RiverRat-2112 Yes. But in this case they can access the left-hand property from the street and stay off Karen's property entirely.
I have 11 1/2 acres. Roughly 505 feet by 1100 feet. I had it professionally surveyed.
I installed the entire fencing myself. Half of it "t" posts and 4 runs of Barbed wire, and the other half solid cedar 6 ft high with 4x4 pressure treated posts and 2X4 runners top, bottom and middle. Because I am in the county and designated rural.. no permits required. All of my fencing is inside my original fencing by 1 ft of all barbed wire on "t'"posts done 20 years prior on the actual property lines. New out of state carpet bagger neighbors both sides claimed I was on their property and sued for encroachment.
They did not realize that my new fencing is exactly 1 foot inside my (surveyed 3 times in 22 years) exact property line.
F em, friggin dope growers.
I sold the property following that event. They both offered to buy my legal water rights completely irrigated, 2000 trees, gardens, orchard, 2600 Sq Ft barn, 60 ft pond, 1000 sq ft shop, 400 sq ft studio etc.. property
I sold it in 2 hrs of the listing for full price sight unseen to a retired cop.
I win.
You are the winner 🏆🏆🏆
BS
@@lylecampbell9036 Fact. Williams Oregon, AKA Dopeville.
Additionally, the dope growers broke into my irrigation system, stole water.
Rebuilt the system ( pump 16 ft above the river bottom,) they stole my pumping system.
Installed a new system with a cage.
Knocked down my fences, stripped my orchard, stole UPS packages off my porch.
Our house was 400 ft from the main rural road, you can't see my house.
Stripped my raised bed gardens. The front of my property is 505 with a 3 ft deep 10ft wide swale.
They used this to dump their household trash, roofing, toilets, couches, car seats, you name it. At least
a dump run (50 miles round trip ) every other month. Stole my mail, and mil from the neighbors.
Stole $26,000 worth of highly figured white oak 105 years old. ( I was a furniture maker) I felled the tree
and air dried it for 10 years. They had to know me, had to know I had the wood, had to know its value,
had to know when I was going to be gone and when I was going to be back. This is all on a County Sheriff's report.
None of this happened until marijuana was made legal July 15, 2015. They invaded and brought their trimmigrants with them.
Those trimmers worked 2 months then out of work so they stole everything and anything they could the rest of the year.
Williams was a paradise until this happened, and now, a shit hole populated with carpet bagging thieves and cons.
Add to that Mexican cartels, Germans, Bulgarians, Russians.. all growing illegally and clear cutting and poisoning the creeks and river
with dangerous chemicals.
You were not there, I was 22 years and they ruing my life and the town of Williams where they now are the town council, the chief honchos at
the Grange, took over the school board and the water shed council ( making it easier to steal water)and have a massive dopers supply that
was an auto repair for 50 years. They bought the guy out with a massive amount of cash.
In one year (1=2015 to 2016) the post office reported they had gone form 1300 residential deliveries and 100 post office boxes to double.. On year.
Don't tell me it's BS. I sweated my ass off for 20 years to pay the place off and then ....this was my reward.
The place is now trashed, destroyed by sloth and greed, and a criminal mind set Sold to an Ex cop and then a land broker hustler from Santa Rosa Calif.
his 20 ish son was a local dope grower laborer with a pregnant girl fried.
These people have no respect for the citizens, wild life or the land. That is the world of marijuana production.
Learned a bunch from these videos... not just stuff about surveying and fence building but also about dealing with difficult people. This guy is a master and should be a hostage negotiator. Seriously, he kept his cool when I would have mouthed off and made the situation even more difficult.
My grandmother had a Karen for a neighbor. Their son was famous for loud weekend parties and throwing trash over the fence into her yard. Then one day, Mr. Karen had a Survey done on his property, he was thinking about making his garage bigger but her dog kennel was close to line. As it turned out his existing garage was built well over the property line, about 5 feet over on the back end. To add insult to injury, he found out there wasn’t enough room for were the existing garage was, so if he tore it down, or was told to move it, couldn’t rebuild it. After my grandma was informed of the violation, the Karen’s became good and very quiet neighbors. No more parties, no more trash, even their constant fighting with each other stopped. She made it very clear, they either clean up their act or they can move the garage. They became good neighbors.
You might want to check on how long it is till the land their garage is on becomes their property (Adverse Possession claim, I believe) .
Bet that a day after that they go back to being unpleasant.
Funny that they were nice all of a sudden. Ugh humans
Adverse possession has a lot of requirements, especially if your state has permissive use laws.
I own a small chunk of land. 3 of 3 of my neighbors all encroached on my property. I let my town know… they have permissive use. That’s right there will negate any form of adverse possession as…. One of the requirements in my state is hostility. No hostility, no adverse possession.
Now if I want to be a real asshole… one neighbor has a secondary driveway cutting right through my yard and another neighbor has 3 sheds on my property… town said once I get a survey, they will tear into them. But, I’m not mean. My neighbors are veterans. I’m a veteran. We talk like adults and help each other. So a shed here or driveway there… doesn’t really matter when you have ~10 acres of old growth forest.
Lol,I am glad it worked out for your grandma. She didn't deserve that and she was a very nice lady anyone else would have made them tear it down.🙂💖
Your grandma is awesome!
As someone who was on a survey crew for 10 years, I can tell you this happens more than you would think. Both the fence situation and the screaming neighbors. In all that time I only had 1 person threaten me
With a firearm. We left, called the police and had no issues after that as the police came and visited them for quite awhile. The police also watched while we finished what we needed to do.
Surveyors have a right to access adjoining properties for the purposes of establishing a boundary survey usually after notification of the owner. This varies state to state, but there are right of way and eminent domain laws that allow for access.
Here in Florida surveyors have right of trespass, just across the line in Alabama...not so much. I'd always have to stop my guys if we were in Bama and make them go knock on the door and announce ourselves.
@@justinfox2310 I would think the courteous thing to do is at least attempt to notify owners even in Florida where they have right of way. You couldn’t assume the owner would know someone was a surveyor unless they explained and it’s unsafe to assume otherwise.
I'd like to have my property lines re-established by surveyor but have no idea who to contact or if I can even afford it. I've been told it costs thousands. Is that true?
@@kimberkimKC Not usually. Most boundary surveys we did were a couple hundred. Granted, I stopped surveying in 2010, but I can't see them jump up that much.
@@kimberkimKC boundary line survey for 1 acre adjoining my property was quoted as $540.00 1 year ago ... Used my metal detector.. found the surrounding markers... used a 300ft steel tape and did my own ..
Checked and rechecked ...works for me ...
I was struggling with one of my neighbors with this same issue. I'd get it surveyed and he'd pull up the flags and move them which I think is illegal. So finally after a back and forth and getting the cops involved I just had a surveyor and fence guy come out at the same time. Ol boy wasn't happy but I sure was.
That is probably the BEST solution to this situation I've ever come across.
This happened to me as well. When the surveyors came back they were NOT happy about it. I took pictures and spray painted where the stakes were and the fence guys came a few days later.
The surveyors also said that removing the stakes is theft and i should call the cops if he does it again. I think he would have but the paint was a dead giveaway where the stakes belonged.
it is illegal and you can go to court and have the surveyor with you to prove it.
Ah the absolute beauty of a survey. Ours got us “back”🤨over an ACRE our complete douchebag neighbors just put their garbage wood and construction trash on while we were gone 6 months. Ohhh their faces when they showed up and saw those gorgeous brilliant neon orange property line stakes.....one of THE most satisfying days of my life. 🥰🥰🥰
We had some property up north and someone built a house without a survey....i did one ...turns out my property line ran right thru the center of his living room...I didn't do anything about it as I own many acres around it..but I ask him to change the color of paint on my side of the livingroom 😉...hes been a very cordial neighbor ever since....
@@smithscrete1 so you must be why the accent walls became a thing haha.
@@smithscrete1 I llik eggplant - yes a nice deep shade of purple - probably have to use about 3-4 coats till the color comes in as deep as I'd like.... ;-)
I had a neighbor tell a surveyor the land belonged to him and the surveyor put the markers where the old man told him and not where the deed said. Needless to say the surveyor was fired and check was canceled. When the other surveyor came out he had explicit instructions to follow the deed and not the used car salesman’s directions.
We had a neighbor who tried to claim an entire lot once he was actually laying out the corners of his house and was ignoring us until we got the police involved but he really messed up and dropped a tree on the opposite neighbors house and we became his least problem
Hilarious! And mind-boggling at his blatant attempt to steal land!
Wouldn't this be an excellent opportunity to be magnanimous to your neighbors and show them a little good will in an already strained relationship and grant them the fence, or attempt to help move it for them? Genuinely not sure why people insist on this "tit for tat" silliness. Good relations have their own reward, and just because someone else is doing something wrong to you doesn't mean you have to reciprocate.
@Keepin' It Real You can certainly hold me to account if I do that. I personally try to keep the insults to a minimum, be civil to those I meet and encounter, and try to calm situations down before I exacerbate them. Always have, always will. You would think acting like a mature, civil-minded adult wouldn't be such a wild, edgy concept.
@@VesperAegis Certainly as a first step I agree with you. Keep it civil. Just realize the world is full of unreasonable people and people who are sure they're correct no matter what proof you show them.
@@VesperAegis I tried that with my neighbor and is overgrown shrubs and trees for years. He would not maintain his own property and would tell me to trim it myself and after I did all the work he would say you didn't trim it correctly. After hurricane this tree was laying on four different properties. My neighbor and myself cut the tree along the fence line and brought all of his branches to his property. The one neighbor behind us told him he was leaving before the hurricane got here and to make sure he trimmed the tree but he ignored his friendly neighborly neighbor. So when The neighbor behind me came back and saw all of that tree on his property he dragged it around the block and left it right in his driveway. That's when my a****** neighbor called the police and they told him to remove it. I told him that I would help him bring it 50 ft away onto my front swale and I had some of my friends come to pick it all up and haul it away. So my question to you is how many decades of being nice to your neighbor before you finally stop letting him s*** on you and give him a taste of his own medicine?
I had a neighbor who started to build a structure that ended up being way over the property line. They had a crew come in when nobody was home and clear out the land and put in footings for a planned concrete pour. I called the original company that did the survey when the property was built. They staked out the line. When the neighbor got home she was screaming about orange stakes running thru her yard. I explained that the stakes showed were the property line was but they started screaming about the company surveying the wrong line, hehehe. So they called the survey company and talked to the owner. Stated that his employees had broken into her house and stolen a number of things. After that she had her kids pull up all the survey markers. I called the company back and told them what she did, and the son of the owner said he will come back and redo because he really wanted to talk to her about something. :) Never had an issue with the neighbors again about property line. it seems that every person that bought the property next to me NEVER had a survey done EVER.
I have an ass for a neighbor as well. Purchased this fixer-upper just before COVID, the neighbor had been sabotaging the sale of the house because he wanted it... this from his own statements, just different words. He said I was the only person who never spoke to him while viewing the property, wouldn't have mattered anyway. He was very indignant, complete hater in every respect and making claims as to where the property line was, he also repeatedly called the County on me, initiating false complaints, which they investigated and found nothing. In the end, all "his" trees as well as 5 ft of what he proclaimed as his down the property line are now verified as mine on County records, because of my financial situation at the time, and due to his repeated use of the County as a tool of harassment, I got a free septic system via a grant... rarely do things work in my favor, for once, doing the right thing actually worked out.
Having a miserable neighbor like that cuts the value of your home in half
True
Or even less. Who wants lo live next to hostile, abusove lunatic
Exactly..
Our daughter and son in law are moving next week, we’ve all been a little worried they wouldn’t get a good price for their house because the next door neighbor plays loud filthy music while weight lifting with the garage door up. Son in law has gone over a number of times to ask him to turn it down because they are working from home and the music is distracting while they are on zoom calls all day.
I said something to my daughter about it the other day and she said it looks like the man/dad has moved to another house in the neighborhood. She’s just glad to be getting away from that family.
When my husband and I were house hunting, we pulled up county records to check lot lines on properties we were looking at. It's absolutely crazy how many do not survey property lines before building. A large 2 story garage, fences, ponds, driveways, and even a couple houses, you name it. They crossed the property lines per county records. We made sure not to bid on those properties because we weren't willing to deal with the problem. If you're going to sell your house, you better resolve these issues before you even consider listing it. It's not worth buying if there's an unknown legal bill and stress from such a problem. Many are not willing to buy your legal nightmare.
Great idea!! I was looking for a house, and knew I'd make sure all was well before buying.
I had a rental property and one new owner next door put a fence post for a privacy fence next to his driveway but a foot on my propertty, 2 yrs later when I went to sell i made sure to disclose it to let the new owners know they owned that fence post and 5 foot on the side of the house before his driveway, this way knew where the property line was, and so they knew they had room beside the house to due home maintenance, I never seen the other home owner, I wasnt too concerned about a foot of land, I live here on 84 acres, but the new owner that bought my place has every right to be concerned about that foot if he wants to he paid for it, so i made sure to note it for him to see in disclosure
Tax maps are often inaccurate especially in rural counties. They’re a guide to where properties are located but I wouldn’t rely on them to be an accurate survey.
Yes ..in UK when selling your property you are duty bound or you xan be sued if you dont tell prospective buyers if you have any issuses with neighbours
@@wasidanatsali6374 they are accurate where I live and if you think there's a discrepancy to a property line, then get it surveyed. Don't plan on the realtor knowing anything.
We have dogs so we totally fenced in our country property out in the middle of nowhere. Got a new neighbor who told us our fence was on his property and to pay him for the land or move it. We had it surveyed and moved the fence out 6 feet since that was the property line. So he lost a 6 foot stretch of land, 800 feet deep. At that point, he didn't have the easement he needed to build, where he wanted to build because he needed a certain amount of road frontage.
@@JosephHenry-l5e LOL. Isn't it wild what happens when people are dicks?
your story is missing to many pieces & a few things don't make sense or add up. Basically you took the theory of the title of the video and you went to chat GPT and you asked chat GPT to make up some story for you and this is what you got ! but you decided to stick your fingers and change what chat gpt gave you and you made it sound ridiculous had you just ran with what chat GPT gave you you would have sounded more sensible but you decided to add your input and edit it making yourself sound like a complete liar this story is complete bogus I bet so go on your TH-cam channel and post a video of this exact scene and I can guarantee you won't do that even if there was 500 million on the line you wouldn't do it cuz the stories BS. And even if you didn't use chat gbt I know you're just making up a lie to express your opinion on what karma is like
@@mikeylopez9625 I can't tell if you're talking to me or not. Why don't you come to the Discord and let's have a chat.
I love how she does not know the law. Surveyors can not be trespassed when they are in the process of doing a land survey. This is well established law and true in all 50 states. Just the same as federal employees can bypass no trespassing signs and continue onto your property to make contact with homeowners or complete a task, and can remain until their duty is completed. Census workers, mail men, etc.
I worked on the 1980 census. Found a property with a big sign saying the guy was sick of all the vandalism and would shoot trespassers on sight. Rather than push my right to be there, I left the place alone.
Pretty sure this is canada tho (?)
@@sophroniel No this is Nashville TN metro area.
You mean I can't shoot the federal employees walking onto my property??? Damn it! (jk FBI!)
She’s black. She’s not very bright. She was told slavery was a thing. Hahahahah
I grew up at 32 Country Ridge Drive in Port Chester NY 10573. Our neighbors at 34 did something similar to us and to those at the other side, number 36. They also planted beautiful shrubs along the fence line on “their” property.
When my folks sold our home they just moved the fence to the proper side and had a lovely border garden, compliments of the angry folks at number 34, to offer the new buyers.
Surveys don’t lie, bad neighbors do.
Thank God we have great neighbors on both sides and behind us! We share a drive way with one neighbor and when it came time for a new gate and repaving the drive we split the cost. No fence up between us in the backyard, just lovely rosebushes he planted between our properties back there. He even helps my dad prune our plants and is teaching my dad to cook now that my mom is gone. New neighbor on the other side had a full gut and rebuild and was so respectful and still is. Lovely family! We sweep the front of each others homes when doing our own too. We are truly blessed! So sorry you had to deal with that.
What a blessing!
THAT is what being a neighbor is all about. A little bit of honey is far better than a whole lot of venegar......
My dad's farm had an easement for a road through the bottom section of scrub. The only thing beyond the farm was a sandstone quarry run by an old man who would maintain the road. When my dad built a new house he positioned it at the rear of the property and used the road as his driveway, which the old man was fine with. They were good mates. Eventually, though, the old man passed away and a big company bought the quarry. They also somehow managed to buy the road easement from the local government, so it became a private road which they upgraded significantly for the large trucks they used and then fenced it off with a gate at the beginning so that my dad couldn't use it. My dad was left with no choice but to build his own road which was going to cost big dollars as it was a few miles long. So my dad gets a survey done before he starts work on the road, and to his surprise finds out that the road that had been there for fifty years was in the wrong place. It was entirely on his land. The quarry owners then had to negotiate with him to legally use it as they'd invested so much money upgrading it. Unlike them, he was good about it, but to this day he has a high-quality road on his property that is regularly maintained.
In a lot of small towns, existing fences and carports and such actually do end up on the neighbor's property. This is typically after a rezoning, such as when the town becomes more "citified" and the new plattes don't line up with the old property lines. It's not something you encounter in planned communities but common in rural areas. Typically those structures are grandfathered in and you can replace them over time as long as you don't change the position or footprint. Out where I live, neighbors usually accommodate these local code quirks with handshake agreements but someone like this woman can ruin that balance pretty quick.
We had a nearby case of a recent arrival from out of state demanding her next door neighbor change her corrugated metal fence to something more suited to her tastes, then wanted her to move the fence several feet to allow the new neighbors to add an extension. They were shot down on both counts, and then when they brought the survey team out, then found the fence was actually 6 feet inside the property line and the east wall of their new house technically belonged to their neighbor.
where I live there are several blocks where the fences over the years ended up in the wrong place on like you said , handshake agreements , recently an old goat , a city boy moved in and did a survey and found out his neighbor's fence is a meter on his property , he wanted to get nasty but I kindly pointed out two things , that he was a meter onto municipal property on the other side of his property and that we have a law that states you have X amount of years to correct any border mistake , after X amount of years passed and nobody said anything guess what , it stay the way it is and you can't do squat , if anybody here lives on your land without paying rent for several years they also have rights and you won't get them off
We have the opposite issue. Our neighbor put his hogwire fence ten feet back from his property line, giving us an extra ten feet. We unknowingly put up a big gardening tent structure in that ten feet. When we realized it, we asked if he would like us to move it. He said “nah.” We both try to be good neighbors and not sweat the small stuff.
If either of you sell in the future make sure to correct it or somehow code it into legalese otherwise it will turn into a shitfight.
Co-exist! I certainly can be trying, but still worth the rewards, (Providing).
@@aardvarkbiscuit2677ask my neighbor. his entire driveway is my property. He had a deal with someone maybe but not me and he has no easement and I don’t want my kids over there so I’m fencing it.
@@BonkersGameplayis his property landlocked except via the driveway on your property?
@@brassmule a quarter of his property is road-side and he usually parks there. his carport back there has a broken down car he’d have to move. I’m going to have it surveyed and staked and then tell him it’s getting installed soon so he can move whatever.
I have the best neighbors and have live here 50 plus years. They were there when we moved here and we always have accommodated each other when needs arise. I feel blessed.
I'm so thankful to have nice neighbors, our property line goes down a slope into what I once assumed was their yard, they told me it's my property but since it's so close to theirs that they would still mow it. I also cut down a few of my dead trees that kept poking at them when they'd run by with the mower, and they were grateful for that. Also, my neighbor hates flowers so I got to go dig up a few huge hydrangeas and peonies out of his yard to keep for myself, and that was essentially free labor for him to remove them but those plants cost a fortune from a nursery so I didn't mind digging them up. Anytime I need help with something all of my neighbors (front, left, right) are there, and I'll buy them chocolate or nice wine as a thank you. I've even had my own car towed out of my own culvert by my neighbors during the winter! They are truly amazing people, and honestly I wish great neighbors on everyone 🙏
Don't be crotchety, and be generous. Most of the time they will return it in kind ❤ (but some don't, like my last neighbor at my old townhouse. We called her 'frizzy bitch' because she kept calling the HA on us for having friends overnight in the public parking space next to her house claiming it needed to be open when she never had people over... ever... she was a true spinster if I ever met one.)
Funny story.
I live in the middle of no where in the mountains of northern vermont. Our only neighbor closer than 2 miles shares a property line with us and we both have a good bit of land. So we don't bother with fighting over who's land is who's because it's never really mattered plus having a good neighbor you can count on in a place like this is way more important. I've lived here for 30yrs and have had 3 different neighbors. Thankfully they have all been wonderful. My dad would plow the long driveway to the neighbors home for 20yrs. Dad was retired and they worked. My dad is no longer able to do that and every morning my drive is plowed enough for me to get out should there be an emergency. That is worth more than a few feet of land. But living close like this and having a neighbor like that...hell no!
When you buy a house, make sure it's surveyed before you sell your soul. Its the largest purchase of your life - make sure you know exactly what you are buying.
My neighbors had "encroached" about 5' down my property line, built a concrete deck, garden... it was nice. They weren't too upset when I had my property re-surveyed for a remodel and the plots were redefined.
Did I mention both husband & wife were/are lawyers? Yup. Government lawyers. They instantly knew they were busted. Pretty sure they did it to the last owner (I suspect on purpose) because the previous couple were young, naive & foreign.
Aren't lawyers so sweet?
Maggots.
Lawyers for the government. So your both useless cancers to society
@@anthonycaruso6065 He means the neighbours not himself..
Are idiot former neighbors did not get it survey and did not realize most of their backyard is actually our property not there's. Then when they moved the never disclosed that the bassment floods during bad rain to the new owners. They moved as well since it was not big enough for four kids. I hope the new people get in survey and aren't wackos.
as a surveyor, thanks for posting this! We're too afraid to
Feel free to send me any videos. I am happy to post on your behalf. :)
D Dozier I once did a lot line for a man that wanted to build a fence. I was in the process of digging up the front pin when his neighbor came home. She asked my what I was doing and I told her. She started screaming she's getting a lawyer. Made for a very uncomfortable survey.
@@jackrasmussen4467 --- Lawyers can end up to be an expensive way to be wrong. LOL
Idk why people would yell like that. I'd just go inside and hope for the best.
In this case, the lady probably knew she was wrong.
I love when people get mad for getting caught stealing someone else's property 😂
I was a surveyor for 13 years. Property line disputes are a pain. Inevitably someone is going to be pissed. I once had two people yelling at me at the same time, both trying to convince me that they were right. And I tried convincing them that I had no opinion in the matter. That it really came down to the legal paperwork and measurements based off of recognized City monuments. All I was doing was showing them where the line actually was.
Even worse when the property lines are a mess, like mine. Nothing is squared off.
Some woke people moved our monuments in St Augustine FL. Wonder how that will affect the new surveys? Measure from where the monument used to be?
@@elisabethseaton6521 if someone moves a corner/monument it will be found out. It happens a lot. They don't understand that there are records of surveys and they are filed at the courthouse. And you can get in big trouble for moving a monument. There isn't just one or two monuments that are measured during a survey. We will locate and measure every corner in a neighborhood until we narrow down where the problem is. If a monument is off by 0.10 feet, we'll know. Especially with todays technology. What used to take weeks could take a matter of hours. It all depends on what corners are in, whether or not the ones that are in have been disturbed and how old the survey is. The records could go back over 100 years. There is lot that goes into a survey. And if need be, we will replace the corners that are missing or have been moved.
@@elisabethseaton6521 property line monuments that are buried at corners of a land tract. Not statues.
It becomes a contest of wills, facts don't matter once emotion gets involved.
My neighbor was the nicest old guy you could have ever wanted. He had a strong opinion of the old fart that owned my house before me. There is a row of pine trees that were supposedly planted to piss him off....and it did. Believing it was on the property line he let it go.
The guy who had owned my place had died and several years after I brought it my neighbor died too. When I learned the land was going up for sale I was concerned as to what kind of neighbor I would have. The surveyors came and I got such a laugh. Those trees were 6 to 8 feet on his land and could have cut them down any time.
My new neighbor is great and is in about the same condition as I am, a beat down wreck. He stays on his side and I on mine. If we see each other out we kick out butts out of low gear and into neutral and yak for a while. It might be a month or two but if he or I need anything we know who will help. Yep......I told him he could cut those damned trees down any time he wanted. I was glad they were not mine anymore, LOL!
Oh, and when they surveyed the line on the other side went right through the middle of their garage.
Cheers
Terry
Sometimes patience has its reward. Looking at a house to buy I could see that the neighbor's garage could be encroaching . I had a survey done and indeed it was by about 3 feet over the line let alone the set back. I couldn't sell him an easement because I would then be violating the zoning set back. He was upset because the city inspector let him put it there, The owner of my house at the time might have sounded like the Karen in this video but she was correct. The city official and the owner ignored her claim and waived her off. I had a certified survey done and the encroachment was verified. My city vigorously enforces zoning violations and so I contacted the slimy city official that allowed the garage placement and he avoided responsibility by stating "because the garage is on your property, it is a civil matter between you two." Claiming that a setback issue would be the city's problem but encroachment onto my property was my problem. The Neighbor's mom was yelling at me because she thought that buying the house with knowledge of the encroachment was DeFacto acquiescence. I let it ride for a year or two until I saw a "For Sale" sign in his yard. At the first showing I called the realtor over, gave her a copy of the survey showing the encroachment and that it must be disclosed to any prospective buyer. No buyer wanted to get entangled in that mess. A week or two later a contractor poured new concrete hoisted up the garage, jack hammered out the slab on my property put it back down on his property. The guy (Steve) who eventually bought the house turned out to be a great neighbor. Good thing we didn't start out in conflict. Actually, the old neighbor was OK too, but he was upset with the city and himself.
I had to sell my mother's house a few years ago. A few days before the closing I went in to my lawyer's office to do some paperwork, and his assistant asked me how old the stand alone garage in the driveway was. I said, 1960 plus or minus a couple of years. I was a really young kid at the time and had only a vague knowledge of the date. She said, "OK, that's fine.". I asked why and she said that about a metre of the garage was on my neighbor's property. I wasn't too happy about that but the deal closed without any issues. When I went back to the lawyer's office to pick up the cheque I asked him about that. I mean I know that I wanted to sell it, and I understood why the buyer wanted to buy it. By why would his bank finance it? The lawyer - who had no knowledge of the garage location problem - called in his assistant. She just said 1960 and a metre over. He smiled and said no problem Then he explained that the vast number of properties that hadn't changed ownership in 50 years had these types of problems, that the age of the garage created an eminent domain (I think that's what he said) which gave the garage owner the right to keep it there. He also said that if this type of problem was enforced then no one would be able to sell a property in our city. Now this is Canada and perhaps the rules are different in other places.
@@davidgrandy4681 In Arizona, it's called a "way of necessity." AKA private condemnation. If a neighbor complains that your garage is encroaching, and you can demonstrate that you need the garage, you just pay the neighbor for the land, and that's the end of it.
I understand your pain. Our backyard neighbors were building a retaining wall/fence. They said it could go right on the property line, but my mother was concerned it would damage some arborvitae on our side. She looked into it and in turned out it needed to be offset from the property line 5 feet. Backyard neighbor was pissed and since then never misses a moment to pester us. Draining their pool into our yard, doing loud yardwork with machinery (not just mowing) when we have gatherings, including walking on the other side of the fence facing us to dry their pool cover. The whole side of that retaining wall is covered in weeds, it's not like they take care of it either. Parents put up a fence after 2 years of nonsense. They were angry that our fence had the "ugly side" facing their retaining wall where they never go and cannot see. 🙄
Are the neighbors supposed to get ugly side or nice side?
@@Betruetoyou4444 It probably depends who pays for it
Well ... TH-cam gave this as a recommendation.
Worth it.
Nice fence you got.
I'm glad I clicked on this recommendation too! 😊
It will still need to be moved for legal reasons.
@Sunny Quackers You obviously haven't lived next to someone like that old broad. I've put up with one similar for the past 20 years. The first 8 I tried everything to get along. It just got me more crap. Not one person on the block can stand the witch. There comes a time when they don't deserve human respect because they won't give it.
@Murky Vision1986 I thought the term was "white devil" and you're a racist.
Had the same experience. Ask the neighbor to wait until I had my survey completed, but no they went a head and put up the fence. After the boundary survey was completed with it showing the fence they had just had installed on my property, I gave them a copy and asked them to relocate the fence. After that they were complete A-holes ! But I had the last laugh.
random lot line stories: a builder built a 2 million dollar, beachfront spec home in our town. on final inspection, county wouldn't issue occupancy permit and showed one corner was 18 inches over the minimum setback... you can imagine the rest of that story. (turned out contractor lot plans were not the official plat and were innaccurate) I once bought a house in the rural mountains of NC. At the closing there was a piece of parchment on the table. I asked what it was- turned out to be the original land grant from King Charles to whomever, giving the guy all the land from a 'certain large oak westward' (pre USA). That oak tree is still there and marks the corner of the lot. The original settlers had no idea how far the land mass went (early to mid 1700s.). If you look at old maps, you'll notice Carolinas, Virginia, Georgia, etc have no western boundary. Those were drawn later on.
Headright grants from the King of England. In Georgia, they go from the coast inland to the Ocoee River. The rest of the state was split up by multiple land lotteries as the Cherokee and Creek were driven from their homelands.
Wouldn't surprise me to find that document is worth more than the land.
I find that fascinating
Correct about the boundaries. They went to the Pacific.
You now have legal claim to all land west of your tree unless someone has an older document or a different document contradicts that one lol
Something like this happened in my neighborhood and we discovered that the developer had exaggerated all lot sizes….every home was surveyed using the dimensions on paper and that every lot overlapped each other by 2 feet…..we would have sued but the developer had went bankrupt before we figured it out.
Been dealing with folks like this my whole adult life as a surveyor. People will still argue even after digging up monuments through the whole block to back my work up.
Wow
I remember when we built our fence. Best recommendation ever from our contractor - "survey the property and then build the fence a few feet into your property. You may get along with your current neighbor but you never know what the future may bring."
Sure enough just a year later my neighbor moved and was replaced by the neighbor from hell. Keeping the fence clearly onto our property has saved me a number of headaches.
I had a person from the city tell me the same thing. This way they can't lean anything up against it, or attach anything to it because it is all on your property, not the property line.
The guy that built my fence put it 6 inches off the property line. Very happy about that . one round of grass killer keeps the other side of the fence clear for a year.
You still have to mow around it onto their side
@@silverforest4682 The neighbors do because they think it's their property. ;)
Fences should go straight down the property line. If they don’t whoever’s side has a bit of their neighbor’s property on their side may start believing or claiming it’s theirs. Adverse possession only requires 7 years with color of title and 7 years goes by faster than most people realize.
I had a neighbor plant a bunch of flowers in the far part of my yard once. I went over and told her they looked very nice and thanked her for all her hard work and had a fence put up a week later between the flowers and her yard. She came home right after the contractors put the last section of fence up. She was yelling and screaming until her husband came over and I showed him the property map given to me by the surveyors a couple of years ago. He apologized and left. Two days later I say another team of surveyors giving the neighbors the bad news, the fence I put up was actually 3 foot inside my property line. They moved out and sold the house a year later. I held no animosity against them but it just got to them I guess. The new neighbors were nice and complemented the flowers.
Hilarious!!! 👊🏾🇳🇬🇺🇸
that's hilarious
Was there already a property dispute before she planted? If not, I would have replanted her flowers on her side of my fence.
@Murky Vision1986 I think I didn't post it correctly. I was responding to a comment @ Stephen Green not the video. That was just plain wrong.
Thanks. I'll see if I can fix my reply.
@Murky Vision1986 blah blah blah
That was great. It will be wonderful to stand on "their' 4ft strip of land they lost because of the survey. I would work there and stare at them the entire time just to record the reactions.
Please keep us posted.
As a fence builder, I always recommend to the home owner, to make sure you double check your property lines. I've been cussed at, had the cops called on me, mostly by elderly neighbors. I have also broke up fights between neighbors over the fence line. It's crazy
As a friend of mine would say:"Some people's children..." SMH Cuz, that angry lady is *somebody's* child. Lol
The job of Land Surveying can really bring out the worse in people. One time, when I was in a property dispute with a neighbor, the neighbor yelled s constant string of a shocking level of profanity at the surveyor I had hired. the entire 4 to 6 hrs he was there. When I went to apologize, he started to say "Don't worry. I dealt with worse" he stopped and said "Um, I take that back. This is as bad as it gets." I gave him a tip.
He should've brought ear plugs, showed them to the neighbor, and said, "sorry, I can't hear you!" 😁
@@Carmen-us1ew I think he did. The neighbor was in his face. loud, profane and homophobic.
@@Carmen-us1ew Ear pods work great for that. If they are halfway observant they will see the little white things hanging out of your ears and give up.
One of the reasons I'll continue to stay in my house after retirement is my neighbors. They are kind, normal people and I consider myself lucky to have them. My temper is too short to harassed by " Karen's"!
I don't understand why folks think they should get something for nothing. I live next to a piece of land that I've used for almost 30 years to store pallets, trailers, lumber and assorted other stuff (not junk) I think I've seen the owner of this land maybe 3 or 4 times over this time period. I take care of the property such as mowing, tree trimming and keeping people who shouldn't oughta be there out. If he came up to me today and said to move everything off his land as soon as possible... I would do it with a smile and keep mowing it to boot. It would never cross my mind to repay him for the free use of his land for all these years by taking advantage of some dumbass law that says I could take his land just because he was kind enough to let me use it for a certain amount of time. Too many scammers and low-life's out there.
In the 80s my dad and his neighbor put a new chain link fence up and split the cost. They even concreted in the post. Neighbors house sold the next year and new owners complained it was 6 inches on their side and had a survey done. My dad torched the post off 8 inches above ground and moved the fence back a few inches. All those 8 inch tall post were still in their yard a few years later when we moved. Always funny watching them try to mow around them.
We had a house we were renting and eventually bought from a friend. The pushy neighbor next to us planted an entire row of 15 trees on our side. Friend had a survey done and in showed they were all about 3 feet over the property line. Letter from a lawyer was sent to neighbor and hilarity insued. He dug up every single tree by hand and moved them over....only to have them die within the year! There is a lone willow tree left and the new neighbors admitted that it is our tree. LOL
About 15 years ago I lived in a nice quiet one street subdivision with about 24 homes each on an acre to 1 and 1/2 acres. I installed a 6' high privacy fence with a single 4' wide access gate/door on one side of the house and a double 16' wide gate on the other. I purposely built the fence 6 feet inside my property line so I could raise blackberries along the fence row in good full sun. After about two years I built grapevine style trellises to keep the blackberry bushes from flopping around and keep a 3' walkway clear the entire length of the fence.
Old neighbors moved out and new neighbors moved in and that's when the problems began. The previous neighbor did the same thing with his chain link fence and built it 6' inside his property line. So there was 12' of "space" between our fences. The neighbor worked on cars and slowly cars he couldn't fix ended up in that area. The first couple were right on the line but on his property so other than the junky appearance I let it alone. Came home after a week out West for work and there was a line of cars on my property and some of my blackberry bushes had been damaged. Asked them to move them and he proclaimed the entire area was his to do what he wanted. So I called the city to come out to review the plat and they did and issued him a citation for junk vehicles. I waited a week and called a wrecker service to remove the vehicles from my property. They came while he was attempting to build a gate across our fences to thwart the city citation. They towed the four cars on my property at the time. He promptly put two more in their place and destroyed all but two of my at the time 6 year old blackberry bushes and all the trellises. I cut the 4 by 4 he had screwed into my fence corner as an anchor for the gate and promptly dumped the pieces on his property. I didn't wait on having the vehicles towed this time. They were junking the cars in leu of towing fees so they were making money either way. Some were customers cars that he had to pay the towing fees on and get back to his customers. City finally shut him down for several different reasons and they lost the house and moved.. The day they were being evicted his last act of revenge was to come on my property and cut the phone and cable lines to my house and shoot all the bulbs of my around the house security flood lights out with a BB gun. Called the phone and cable companies and they repaired the damage within a day. Took me a couple days to replace all the flood light bulbs and re-aim them for better coverage of the yard and driveway.
What did I learn? I hate humankind and neighbors.. Next move will be to a large piece of property 25-50 acres in a rural community with neighbors at least a 1/4 mile away..
Even with 25 acres or more you can still get 💩 for neighbors. Best thing is to visit with the potential neighbors on all sides BEFORE buying the land.
If you get a bad feeling move on down the road to another piece of land.
Also once you find your little piece of heaven on earth:
GET A LAND SURVEY!
With 120+/-, you can make it impossible for anyone within a 1/4 mile.
But 160 acres makes the property square.
7 billion people on the planet and 1 major arsehole, and you're giving up on all mankind? So glad God didn't do that!
Why didn’t you file charges against him for the repairs…or as a matter of principle if he couldn’t pay.
Too late for that, of course, but I would track him down (Spy Kids, no contact) just so I could watch for when Karma deals The Hand.
I’m a nice person and try to use diplomacy, but if it doesn’t work, I’m evil enough to want to know all the bad karma coming your way. I think I just realized I’m vindictive and I’m okay with that. 😂🤣😂
You didn't call the police on that lunatic? Running around your property shooting a gun and damaging everything?? Even if it was a BB gun, that's still extremely illegal and he shouldn't be allowed to get away with that.
My dad was a land surveyor for decades and I'd help him on weekends. It's funny what people do or say, or discrepancies like fences or buildings we'd locate. A funny cartoon he had on his wall was a lody in curlers and bathrobe saying "That's not the property line. Can't you see the mow line"
My mom bought a house in oregon. She had been there awhile. After a couple years some people bought the house next door. Nobody on that street knew that the row of houses used to be long to 1 guy years ago and most of those houses were from his family building there and none of them really checked boundary when they built in the 70s. Tell long story short the neighbors line actually went through the middle of my mom's house. She's 65. after a month our lawyer talked them into changing the boundaries to where the fences run. Everybody agreed and nobody gained or lost property. Then we went to court house and had a new deed made marking new lines.
where is oregone,,,,???
@@susanalexander8947 getting real tired of the spell check and grammer Nazis on here.
@@eligebrown8998 is that close to ,,,,OREGON,,,,,LOL
I bought a house once and I noticed the fence was really off shape and attacked to the corner of the house and angled out. The neighbors had been there for 30 years and had planted orange trees, pear trees, pecan trees, shrubs, all sorts of gardening. Mortgage company said gotta get a survey. So I did, and when they got done I had taken up about a quarter of her entire yard. So I had the fence guy come in since it was an old fence, and put in a new one. She was pissed. Nothing I could do about it. She even paid to get her side re-surveyed and it was right on cue with mine. The trees were mine. Then I put a swiming pool right where she thought her backyard was...that really pissed her off. She hated me for 10 years until she finally moved.
You are lucky, some states say after 10 years of someone using property...it now belongs to them.
@@bobswanson8464 same in many countries , in fact 30 houses near me had that very same problem , but the law is clear after X amount of years it stays the way it is
And you are therefore part of the problem.
"Nothing I could do about it"? Hardly.You also seemed to take great joy in pushing them off the property they had lived on for 30 years. And who puts their pool right along the property line? You're the asshole in your story.
How creepy.
My brother from another mother your about to go on a spiritual journey that will be eye opening for you, you will realize who are your true friends and the importance of documenting every step of your journey.
Be patient and don't give them a god darn inch cause they'll take a mile , Hell their already trying to take a yard or two !! LOL
I'LL BE PRAYING FOR YOU !!!!!!
And now you paint it bright pink to show your neighborly love 💕
Lady puts fence up without getting a land survey and applying for a permit.
Then gets angry because she built the fence on her neighbors property to steal land and didn’t get away with it.
I worked two summers on a survey crew. This is tame compared to the things we would see and be called. One lady had us locate the property corners because she was in dispute with a neighbor over who owned a large tree that anyone could see was directly on the line. After we located the points and placed some laff, she took plastic tape, connected it at the front point, looped it around several tress, going well onto the neighboring property and then tying at the rear point. She seemed to believe that that meant she owned all that space. As it turned out the big tree in dispute was 90% on the neighbor's side. Many would scream obscenities and try to order us "off their property". We had every legal right to do what we were doing so we just ignored them.
I had a similar situation back in 2013. Installed a rod iron fence after the survey was complete. The neighbors literally were harassing the fence installers. It was horrible and still is to this day. Almost called the cops on the son that jumped my fence last week. So sorry you have to deal with people like them.
Wrought Iron
Put up a No Trespassing sign. Next time he jumps he’ll get a fine.
*WROUGHT iron
"wrought iron?"
An acquaintance of mine has a sign on their property that reads “If you can read this, you’re in range”. Maybe not your style however...
Always good to see neighbours getting along so well 😂 I think she needs a hug 😊
If a neighbor is always that nasty, I would be a bit nasty myself and tell them to get their fence off MY property, no ifs, ands, or buts.
Yea I’d tell them they owe me $200 every hour the fence isn’t removed
Naaaa ..sence it's on his property .. I'd hook to it with a 4 x 4 and jerk it out...haul it to the recycling center
The problem with that, for him, is then she could sue him - AND win. Because the court hasn't ruled on the legality of the survey yet, and she's claiming that is HER property. Sucks.
That's one of those decks that collapses when they get more than three Karens on it at one time.
You can only hope!
Karens are usually big.
@@patriciat1514 😄
Thankfully, I get the impression this one doesn't have a lot of friends who want to come over long enough to collapse a deck.
I have built deer stands that last now 20 yrs n strong, Im not even a builder, but one look at that deck n I see it surely isnt strong nor comply with code
This is why my wife and I bought 17 acres out in the country. My dogs are happy and so are we.
I was thinking this too. It's a house on postage stamp problem. On the other hand, I have 20 acres but there was a dead tree on my side of the line that was overhanging the neighbors parking area. They were rightly afraid it was going to come down on their house or cars. I agreed to cover 1/2 the removal cost though I probably wasn't required to. So even being rural doesn't mean it can't happen to you.
Until the state comes along and decides to develop.
@@Carmen-us1ew Nope.
@@Carmen-us1ew While possible, it's about as likely as getting hit by lightning. Even then, they're required to buy the land from you.
@@quademasters249 I saw it near my town, they built a 4 lane highway and now the old 2 lane is just an access road to the homes that are on it. It looks strange.
This reminds me of something weird that happened shortly after I bought my house on the outskirts in a thickly wooded area in 2006. One day my boyfriend and I heard voices in the woods, and here comes this woman, a man and some teenager trying to peck through the undergrowth. We're like "wtf??" So we close in and get the story from them. They claimed they owned a 10'x10' piece of land on the corner of my south neighbor's property. Nothing they could do anything with but just wanted to say they owned property up north. I had to tell them they were standing in a patch of poison ivy🙄 Never saw them again. Weird clown show. Fast forward to 2018 and I bought that property to add to mine. Browsing the tax description, there was no 10x10 section missing, no sale to be found, and the dimensions were exactly the same as the other property. The survey stakes were present and in alignment. I still wonder what those people were doing so far back in the woods.....
Mushroom hunting.
they were looking to bld a meth lab.
Growing weed?
Scoping you out. They could come back later so be cautious.
For anyone else that has someone tell them a story like that...just because they own (or claim to own) a piece of land does NOT give them the right to TRESPASS across ANY land to reach "their" land, unless they ALSO have a legal easement that goes from public property to their property.