Airbrushing Molotow Chrome Ink Part 2 - Thinning It For Great Results
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I’ve been brush painting Molotow with Mr Color Leveling Thinner for almost 7 or 8 years now and it works great. It actually improves the shine of the chrome compared to just using the paint pen by itself.
how do you sealed tho ? what kind of top coat are you using to make sure the chrome stay ?
@@adamm5422 Sometimes nothing. Other times I use a clear color to make it into a candy coating/metallic version of that clear color that I’m using. I use Mr Clear Color GX, Mr Color, Tamiya acrylic, and Tamiya lacquer paints. I haven’t done straight clear on the Molotow.
Future Reference
Mixture: 1:1 Molotow Chrome : Mr. Color Leveling Thinner 400
Heavy Application
PSI: Around 15
Nozzle Size: 0.28 mm
whats the alternative for Mr. Color Leveling Thinner 400, can i use alcohol
Could you do a follow up, after the paint has cured for a while, on its durability for handling and if you could find any sealers that don't kill the mirror finish? Thanks!
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Yes. I want to know what clear coat to use without dulling the chrome finish.
Happy Independence Day 2024. I'm convinced. These Molotow pens are almost as good if not just as good as Revell's Chrome paint. Thanks for showing us that thinning it further works just as good if not better as coming fresh out the tube.
Very nice way to spray chrome. Probably very good for bumpers.
Put that in the dehydrator to cure it faster. Molotow usually dulls to the touch if handled. I don’t think any clearcoat will prevent it from tarnishing.
Out of WILD curiosity: Have you tried *actual* gilding? (apply size, and leaf?) I realize it's not your usual fare, but I seriously think it'd be fun to see! (I also know artificial/aluminum gilding is pretty cheap to use - I've had some fun with it)
Molotow sure does have a lot of colors. Their One4All refills have actually started to become popular in the miniature painting scene as colored primers due to how tough they are. Personally, I like to prime models with their Violet Dark paint. Gives a nice cool purple base to work up from in the shadows.
Can you pour the pen contents out and store them in a separate container like a Monument Hobbies bottle with a flip top lid? Great video, thanks!
Excellent review. Tip for those of us on a budget: Amazon and its two most famous Chinese competitor online shopping websites have a whole series of Chinese knock-offs of Molotow at about 1/3 the price. I discovered that the 'Zoet' brand of chrome ink marker is even BETTER than Molotow (using the pens; I haven't tried decanting their inks for airbrushing yet).
for alternatives, have you tried the Sig Wong chrome golds? noticed it when looking up Zoet and was wondering if it uses a similar thinner or if it is oil based and would like to see if anyone else has tried it before buying
That worked out perfectly! My next question is... Will it coat with a 2k Clear with/and a good Candy Paint over the top?
Thanks for showing this, I am concerned with the chrome dulling though. I know anytime I use the pen I have to be extra careful to not touch it because it will instantly dull. I’m gonna have to try this and find a good clear that will prevent or preserve the chrome finish.
Have been doing this for a while with cellulose thinners, really helps reactivate the paint and remove issues with over spray. It still really needs a clear coat to make it durable I'm afraid but in 2 years of experimenting with most things, I can't find anything that works. If you can find a good clear coat solution, thinned molotow would be my goto chrome. I'm currently using Custom Paints chrome with their 1K sealer which I get really good results with, even getting a good gold by using a candy over the top.
The colors on those spoons are beautiful
How tough is it and can you add clear coat? Looks great I need to find a decent
chrome!
I'll be testing that soon. Many recommendations are a week but I'm not sure what clear I will use
Great tip and results with that thinning. Can't wait for my Swallowtail to arrive and will use the Molotow on the car bumpers I'm currently building.
Thanks for posting. It's always good to get new info about our hobby.
Hi Barbatos Rex & it's is Randy and i like yours video is Cool & Thanks Barbatos Rex & Friends Randy
I have been using Molotow one4all refills as primers for miniature painting and they have been a treat to work with. I prefer them over a lot of other airbrush primers. have not found a need to thin them, but this Chrome one is a bit different from the rest of the line.
YAY!! A CHROME VIDEO!!!
its like you knew i was looking for MIRROR CHROME!!
you did a video a few weeks ago with some Mirror-Like Chrome, but i cannot find it again to see what brand it was...
This is as always a great testing of chrome. It kinda reminds me of the dspiae chrome that you did a bit back that also was supposed to be used in a marker. I can’t wait to see how your test with clear coats goes with this. I do wonder how candy colors would look with this type of chrome but I guess we’ll see. Happy 4th!
The lack of a difference between the black or white undercoat is probably due to the high pigment saturation. Once a flake of metallic pigment lays down, it's opaque. Having an ultra smooth surface is much more important to deliver the brightness of metallic paints or (in this case) inks.
Happy Fourth of July. Great video really enjoyed that. I don’t really do a lot with chromes and stuff, but that was very cool. Proud Patreon member commenting to support the video. Be well be you.
Just used my Molotow 1mm tip chrome marker about an hour ago to do some details on a Revell SnapTite '63 Corvette. Now to wait, and wait, and wait,....
It sure went on nice, though!
Another awesome Chrome tutorial. The companies that make chrome paints should give you a lifetime supply man. You have had to increase their sales significantly. Also, anyone not subscribed, click the button it's free! We need to get BR over 100K subs, I am shocked he isn't already. Everyone I tell to check out this channel is just amazed at the content.
The effect on the white spoon would make for a very nice polished aluminum, like a P-51 mustang. i.e. Quick Silver or Glamorous Gal for instance. Thank you for this test.
Have a peaceful weekend.
Great video. Personally, i tried thin it in 1:1, 1:1.5 ( thinnner) , 1:2, 1:3 up to 5 times, and spray it with 0.3 creos airbrush Procon. My sweet thinning spot is between 1.5 to 2. The glossy primer will make a big difference, especially if thining it 1:2 or more or if you are applying a thin layers to achieve the desired look.
And I am trying to see if apply midcoat such as pledge, miniwax polyurethane....etc would protect the chrome look before applying 2k coat
I'm definitely going to try this. I have one of these markers. I'm curious to know if it will tarnish over time the way my Born Paint Mirror paint did.
Hmm. I wonder.
Since the Molotow Chrome works with MLT, do you think other alcohol-based paints could work with MLT? Paints like Green stuff world's chrome paints, or Vallejo's Liquid Gold line. Both are isopropanol-based. Could they work with MLT?
I would say yes they will work
Nice informative video Robert going to have to give it try an thanks for the time and effort you put into are videos
Could you pre-thin it inside the marker? Might prevent some waste.
Sure
This was extremely helpful! I have a special effect going on to a Warhammer model. Painting it half “chrome” is part of the deal. I am not yet into airbrushing. How would you adapt this to a hair-fiber brush?
You won't have a problem hand painting seeing that it normally is applied by marker
Which black primer did you use, and if you didn't use one of the enamel primers how do you think that would effect the results? I'm also curious how much you would need to thin testers to make a semi transparent candy coating to go over that metallic.
I haven't tested the Molotow but with the aiye marker's you don't see the biggest difference between black and white for base but the second that it turns into blue or yellow then it shows a little beet
Btw if you want the most realistic chrome the best that I've seen is liquid mirror paint
Would love to see this the chrome mixed in with Mica powder to see what color you get with Chrome?
Happy 4th
Great vid can’t wait to see the clear over it
Good to know that Molotow can be thinned with Mr. Leveling Thinner. Thank you for this test👏👏👏
hi robert i have ordered from Pearls and Flakes from France the next product.:: Go Chrome. It is a chrome like Molotov but can be painted with a brush and gives a very very nice result. No clearcoat needed. Price $250,- Liter drying time about 3 hours untill dry to the touch at 20 degrees celcius. And no special basecoat needed,and seems to be HEAT resistant. According that company my 100CC bottles will be delivered next week. Will give it a shot to see how it works. And recived last week the Swallowtail and it sprays amazing. Playing now with Mica powders. Have you tried those powders mixed with 2K Automotive clear yet?? When it works,it may give a nice result at the end.
I believe the go Chrome can't be clear coated as molotov. We will wait for your results.
Greetings from Canada. Happy July 4th to our Southern Neighbours.
My only problem with the Molotow chrome is handling the pieces that needs to be placed on a model kit after painting it starts loosing its chrome shine.
Molotow is so expensive compared to the other chromes out there. It does look better, more of a pure-chrome rather than black-chrome. Is this the best "chrome" look? How does it react to clear coating?
What kid of clear can go over this to protect it and keep the chrome look?
That tri color red looks like it would be good on an Ironman model!
How about using a mirrorless camera with a manual prime lens with an infinity capability on the focus
3:45 sounds like you are summoning the chrome!
Just wondering where you get your needles from ? Thanks
Happy 4th of July! Don’t go too crazy with the fireworks guys 😂 Glad to see another video. Finally getting ready to buy an airbrush, I chose the Harbor Freight Avanti for the price and from your review, it seems like a good enough airbrush and I’m SO READY to finally decant all my spray paints and move to a higher skill level of model kit painting and building. I’m not the biggest fan of chrome, but this is a helpful video if I ever wanna use Molotow’s for airbrushing. I’m just curious, would you ever do a “vlog” video of painting an entire Gunpla kit? I know you’re usually oriented to testing items and showing us how to do things with paints, tools and airbrushing, but I would be really interested to see you paint a whole kit! Heck not even just a Gunpla, cars, planes, tanks, other models like GK (garage kits) too.
I really appreciate what you do on this channel, most times very informative. I've sprayed the Molotow pen and really like the look, though I found it's not very durable. Sprayed bumpers and it seemed that the finish wore off easily.
It needs to sit for about a week before you handle it
For clear coating Molotow and Alclad, I've had good results with Createx UVLS
Happy fourth Rex!
Hi Barbatos Rex, do you have a recommendation on a varnish/coating that keeps the mirror finish and keeps it from tarnishing?
Not yet, still testing that out. Alclad Aqua Gloss is the best solution so far
@@barbatosrex9473 Thank you so much for all of the extensive testing.
Man now I have to get more, and order some leveling thinner. My problem is I can never figure out what clear varnish to use to keep that insane mirror finish? Any thoughts on the best one for that?
Super , I have a question. Can you cut that with 99% alcohol too ?
You should be fine but I'd go with 91% just to save a few dollars
yes ordering mr paint leveler i have the molotov was hoping to find a good method to apply working on a PG zaku needed a good chrome for the inner frame had this molotov i used for my horus heresy project left thanks for the info!
That's really nice! It's not 100% bright like chrome; it looks like it has the lightest hint of black chrome in there... I then figured out what this finish would be perfect for... I can't remember which brand, but someone makes Terminator 2 model kits, and if my eyes don't fool me, this seems perfect for a T-100 Terminator, as I remember it from the T2 opening sequence... Not chrome, not polished aluminum, but some polished alloy in between!!!
Those models are made by Pegasus
Nice video and effects BR. Keep em coming
I just wanted to ask if you have ever tried House of Kolor airbrush paints. They have some vary Beautiful colors
Thanks for the video. Answers a lot of questions I have
Happy Fourth of July. Thanks for sharing the video with us all.
in my experience, molotow is fairly opaque, so doing the gloss black undercoat isn't as necessary.
Have you tried the Molotow all4one acrylic marker fillers, or the Montana Cans ones? They supposedly work very well even as a primer.
Dang wish you made this vid a couple weeks ago lol
I was wondering if the pen could be milked for airbrushing and how it would work. I decided not to chance it. Wish i had.
Great work! Have you tried the custom paints deception chrome yet?
Does the Molotow work in the airbrush straight out of the bottle? The thinner is just to help stretch the amount used?
Cheers Rex!
Great video!
A great test excellent!!
got your swallowtail airbrush ,where can I get a holder to use while airbrushing.,standard airbrush (pen type) holders don't work.
..наилучший хром!!! для моделирования из всех существующих на рынке..
Will the same work with Gundam Markers?
Happy 4th just wondering how long to let Molotow chrome paint dry before handling? Thanks
Next day I could handle it no problem
@@barbatosrex9473 thank you for the quick response have a great weekend
i’d be curious to see what happens if you mix some 2k hardener with it. maybe it would actually dry and not rub off lol
I wonder if DSPIAE Chrome can be thinned this way.
Great stuff as always rex!
I need help a bit. I have mr. hobby sm206, super metallic chrome silver, watched your video on it, tried it like you suggested, but it came out none like yours after layer by layer..mine was becoming more like dusty chrome. Is there any tips on how to get the chrome finish? sprayed on gloss black, with .3 needle airbrush. Thanks!
Try thinning it more
@@barbatosrex9473 thanks! will try it👍🏻
Happy 4th Robert 🇺🇸🇺🇸
Remember the chrome eefect by thinning mr.hobby super metallic one typed 2 u it was good
How will you protect the paint
The chrome finish is one of the nicest looking. But it's very delicate afterwards, and can get messed up by fingerprints really quick. The best results I've seen (online) was letting the chrome paint dry for at least a week, and then give it a coat of Alclad Aqua Gloss (NOT the laquer-based one, the Aqua one). It seemed to keep the chrome shine without much dulling. Someone else mentioned that the shelf life of this Molotov Chrome paint is limited, and it has gone bad on me despite being in a sealed plastic box.
I'm sure a colored clear would look awesome over it
That is the _essence_ of candy colors, after all!
I have seen so many of your videos now and at the end I don't know what is the best chrome paint in terms of shine and durability. 😅. It have confused me completely. What's the best if we don't care about the price? Have you a tip?
I like many them. The Revell Spray can chrome is fantastic. I also like SMS Hyperchrome and Molotow Chrome ink
Another great video. Thx
Have you spoke with the company about make a bottle of paint you could sell
Would you recommend adding a clear coat?
I haven't found a great one yet but Alclad Aqua Gloss is pretty good. I did a long form video on testing different clears over chrome
Thanks
Backta daBenchhhh!!!
Last time I used these it would rub off regardless how much time I’d let it cure.
I have Aiye Chrome marker High Gloss liquid Chrome that are oil based. What would be the best thinner to use on them? I have a AMT kit of a 1949 Mercury Sedan made about 1990 in my kit line up and the chrome is not that great looking. I like the looks of this stuff and figure to strip the chrome parts and repaint them, Thanks
Keep in mind you don't actually have to thin it to airbrush it, I just thinned it to stretch it out. But I believe lacquer thinner will work
@@barbatosrex9473 thanks.
Molotov makes a 30 ml refill for their chrome markers. $31.50 at Dick Blick. It would fill your airbrush without having to take apart a marker.
He said in the video that they make refills, but he didn't have time to get one for the video.
Did you ever do a follow up video for using a top coat?
I'll have a big video on that buy I did one some time ago that was pretty in depth. A protecting Alclad video
@@barbatosrex9473 That was protecting Alclad, this is the molotow chrome, is it the same result?
Did this myself earlier today after looking around my low paint reserves. Spooky! 50/50’Molotow/Levelling thinner over Vallejo Mecha Primer White, Mr Color GX Ueno Black, Mr Color Burnt Iron and Tamiya Gunmetal. To my eye it covered it all equally as good. Happy. Just gotta leave it to cure now.
whats the usual dry time for these? 2 days?
Play it safe and wait a week minimum
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You can buy the 30ml refill of molotow chrome, that is much cheeper than buying the pens, and its easyer to get to the paint
He did say there are refills he just didn't have time to get one for the video.
Alclad Aqua Gloss will protect it. My experience with cleaning it out of the air brush with rubbing alcohol make it get like metal flakes so I use a cheap brush single action to spray it. I would love to see if it can be candy coated and maybe get it to look like a good brass color.
Happy 4th of July
Holy smokes 😮
What is the gold device on the connector part of the gun? Thanks
That is an airfilter that mister hobby makes.
@@CrimsonFlaggAwesome thanks, will check it out.
@@pistolpete651I use one and I'll never go without one again. They're not cheap, around $30 if I'm remembering correctly, but worth it!
It's a water trap/filter. It'll also catch some dirt, but it's really there for water. When we compress air, we tend to get water condensation that comes out in the hose/tank. Getting water coming out of your compressor is a fact of life with air compressors (even in the desert, where I live, with 17% humidity!). If you live in an area with humid air, you will get a _lot_ of water in your compressed air. (There are also some oil-filled air compressors that can get a bit of oil into the air, as well as a little bit of dirt that may get past the air filter).
The result is (often dirty) water where you _never_ want water in your air tools. In an airbrush, it'll ruin atomization, cause the airbrush to spit, mix the water (and dirt from the inside of the hose) in with the paint... it just ruins your whole day. Having a water trap just before the air tool can really help out.
From there, it's a matter of "who hurt you bro?" for how much line desiccation you have 🤣
I have an on-wall oil/water trap+air filter + a filter that runs the air through a bed of color-changing silica desiccant; then a hose to my workstation, a regulator + _another_ desiccant filter. Next my airbrush hose connects to the manifold, and finally another filter+water trap before the air enters the airbrush.
Some artists (auto painters, for example) have multi-thousand-dollar dehumidifying systems that freeze-dry the air to pull _all_ water out of the air before it goes through their airbrushes & spray guns. They can't afford a single droplet of water.
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You gotta fix those focus settings