F1's Insufferably Broken Penalty System
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ส.ค. 2024
- F1's Insufferably Broken Penalty System
The F1 penalty system is increasingly broken the more you take a look at it the more you notice inconsistencies inside. It's system that is very reminiscent of the legal systems. We have around the world. You'll start to realize how broken they truly are. Similar cases having to completely different outcomes. Inconsistent judges that don't follow the foundations of the rules set and disproportionate punishments that often don't fit the crime. Is what our present in both of these systems? We've seen this with Fernando Alonso and his 20 second penalty in Australia. Where it was given because the stewards took a look at the outcome of the incidents whereas they shouldn't have. Lewis Hamilton ramming into the Aston Martin's in the Miami Sprint race did not get a penalty while Logan Sargent got a penalty for accidentally overtaking under the safety car which could have been blamed on the team, but he got penalty points for it and the same penalty points were given to lance stroll when he crashed into Daniel Ricciardo because he was not aware of his surroundings. It's so painful to see how the FIA judges incidents wong almost every single time.
The 10-second penalties of a very amazing change. and something that I'm really happy about personally because the FIA is finally now enforcing these rules. However, are they fair when compared to other penalties that have been enforced? I don't think so. The penalty point system in particular is the most flawed one. They're meant to control how drivers behave on track and they might have gotten it right for Kevin Magnuson, but for a case like Fernando Alonso making contact with Carlos Sainz in the China Sprint. That does not deserve the same penalty or more penalties. Than land stroll ramming straight into Daniel. There's a lot of flaws and inconsistency is by far the biggest perpetrator behind all of these problems f1's penalty system has. The FIA just needs to follow the rule set of basing penalties based off of a fence instead of outcome, but they keep going back and forth. Confusing fans.
Timestamps:
F1's Penalty System - 0:00
Same Cases, 2 Different Outcomes - 1:30
Inconsistent Foundations - 3:45
Disproportionate Penalties - 6:28
Distrust - 10:18
My Final Message - 11:38
"Death sentence for Alonso" - the FIA probably
Tbf alonso is just victimising himself by claiming Spanish drivers are given more penalties, when in reality it is mainly the British drivers getting away with more, while others are treated mostly equally. How such alonso glazers exist I do not know.
prob
Alonso here, can you teach me how to act less Spanish? I want to get less penalties
Thats why i dont try to mention that in the video. The race card gets pulled very often im tired of it. Im not gonna say its nonexistent though, bias is everywhere.
@@RicksF1Addiction I wish max went to Jesus that day
"50000 € for touching the wing" - FIA
10 place grid penalty for lack of self defense i guess
"last place grid and fine that cost all of your money for breathing" FIA
@@Hypo-_-Critical.
disqualified for lack of talent
Idk kevin is driving a haas so there might actually be a bomb strapped to it
he says he doesnt like driving like this but i dont believe it
They're sponsored by Chipotle... if ykyk
@@antxn I believe he doesnt like it but does it anyway for team results
It is a bomb istg
romain grosjean would agree
This channel unironically taught me everything I know abt f1
same😭😭
We getting into law school with this one
Esteban Ocon wakes up: 10 second time penalty
Esteban Ocon breathes air: 20 second time penalty
Esteban Ocon drives a Formula 1 car: Death Sentence for Ocon
Esteban ocon eats: disqualified
@@Orcagutz_ fr
Esteban Ocon drinks water:10 minute time penalty
Deserved
I got struck by the stupid but if Ocon got a time penalty for every time he breathed from midnight saturday to midnight sunday on average he would total 374400 second time penalty aka 4.33 days so he would at the earliest finish the race by early morning on friday
"+10 sec penalty for doing nothing - FIA"
It's very important to acknowledge that 1 of the 5 stewards at the 2024 Australia GP was Johnny Herbert who's had personal beef from Alonso since 2015-2016 when Alonso had that crash with a Haas and Herbert publicly stated that Alonso might be washed and should retire and I think it was the day later that on live TV Alonso walked up to Herbert and said that he is a world champion and Herbert is just a reporter :D
Edit: posted this before watching the video to the end, good thing you covered it
thanks, i must have missed it when he mentioned than IN THE VIDEO
he didn't mention why alonso and herbert had that argument
Damn didn't know that, basically like Balestre against Senna but less toxic lol.
1 of 5... you said it yourself. He is just one out of the 5 stewards. They have to agree in full to give penalties out.
I was about to reply to you he said it, but you covered it in the edit haha.
"10 sec penalty for starting in the fucking race for Alonso" - FIA
Alonso: gets 20 seconds penalty
RickF1: ...and I took that personally
I think the biggest outrage is F1 fans being sentenced to 1 minute of the dutch anthem every race.
Well, they better prepared once the Dutch GP comes around, lol
We will get double the Dutchness, lol
We got monaco anthem in monaco before gta 6
At least we got Monaco, Spain and united kingdom anthem this season thus far, and realisticly, only Mexico and Australia anthems Will be hearded too
"Death by Firing Squad penalty for Ocon"- FIA
10 seconds for Lewis cutting off Max’s head. Same penalty for Tsunoda crossing a white line. INTERESTING.
In 2019 right before the Australian GP Charlie Whiting, the man who had served as the F1 race director for 30 years up to that point, unexpectedly passed away age 66.
He was replaced in the immediate aftermath by Michael Masi, after the mess that was his handling of the 2021 season, most notably his decisions during the final decisive race in Abu Dhabi, Masi was removed.
He was replaced by a man named Eduardo Freitas, who himself was removed near the end of the 2022 season for mistakes he made in the Japanese GP, namely sending a safety vehicle on track to collect a crashed car with following proper procedures; almost leading to an accident involving the safety vehicle and driver Pierre Gasly. Given this was at the same circuit where in 2015 Jules Bianchi had suffered fatal injuries after crashing into a safety vehicle due to mistakes made at the time by the FIA, it's fair to say the drivers where furious and demanded Freitas's removal (especially after his and the FIA's initial response was to blame Gasly and the drivers overall).
The current man in charge is Niels Wittich, who himself has faced numerous controversies on his handling of the sport. There were numerous calls by F1 fans for him to be kicked out in 2023 after several questionable calls, with Max Verstappen publicly accusing him of making the sport look amateurish.
How long Wittich will last is unclear, but the point is clear, F1 is in a managerial crisis, the people supposedly in charge at times seem to have no clue what they're doing.
I think the solution is bin the FIA and get a steward team that is identical for every race, with people like Palmer and Brundle instead of these guys who have never sat in a race car
This aged like fine wine 😂😂
'I'm not trying to defend alonso, what he did here was definitely in the Gray area'
Sounds like some prime Alonso defence to me, Rick xoxo
Like if thats too aggressive what the hell was Michael Schumacher...
6:47 You all have to stop dying on the Williams pizza case hill.
It was his *6th* or *7th* FELONY. He stole pizza from children as young as 7, and the court had had enough. They also took his prison record into account where he had like 8-9 violent incidents and at least 2 counts of manufacturing deadly weapons.
We have the idiom "the last straw" for precisely situations like the Williams case.
And lastly, he was resentenced not for 25 years, but only 5 after the furor died down. So, yeah.
Thank you for calling out FiA's bullshit, videogamedunkey.
Bro this guy will become the next big youtuber i am calling it here.
6:04 That look in Russel’s eyes is more fear than a man fighting a bear family 😂😂😂
I would be terrified, too, if Lance Stroll was behind me.
It’s an extremely dangerous place to be. Check out how Anthoine Hubert died.
@@icantmakenames6040I would shit my pants
He was actually on the radio shouting "red flag, red flag" - completely understandable.
Jay walking for Ocon is like time penalty’s
I completely disagree that the outcome of an incident shouldn't be considered.
If we have a minor collision, where someone's clearly at fault, but nothing actually happened, why should be penalise it? Just discourages hard racing. This is where warnings should be given.
If something does happen (damage, spin or position change), then a penalty should be given depending on what the offense was, how avoidable it was and what the outcome is.
The penalty points system should be scrapped. Race bans shouldn't be the result of an accumulation of penalties, they should be a penalty in itself.
If someone does sth extreme and unsportsmanlike, give him a race ban.
I'd also like to see a return to drive through penalties instead of time penalties. That just sorts it out on track, which is much better viewing for us.
i don’t understand why we don’t use drive thru penalty’s instead of time penalty’s that would have solved all of the issues we have had with KMAG holding drivers up when he has no right to be there in the first place
“+10 sec time penalty for being spanish”
- The FIA
happy to see those subs really went up, Rick is pretty underrated
If RPM doesnt posts any videos, I just binge unto yours and its still the same.
Another excellent video! So informational, while being absolutely hilarious and a joy to watch.
6:43 is that daniel ricciardo from the hit team visa cash app RB???
The same Man who beat Max Verstappen on equal machinery??
😵then threw away his career???
Visa cash app rb sponsored by Apple Nintendo Sony Bank of America and with a special guest appearance from Disney Nutella visa again and Mastercard too.
The diference with the Alonso-Hamilton incidentent in Abu-Dabi is that Fer move even out of the track to try to bait Lewis to overtake so he loses the DRS For the following straight. And what FIA did in Australia should be considered a crime. Their own arguments stated in the penalty briefing does not hold it self with the rule book because the ''erratic driving'' is not defined and its left up to interpretation.
Because u uploaded my Ferrari fan depression is almost cured 🥳🥳🥳
Bro I was just looking for a new video today,I am sure this video will be awesome 😎 😊
10 second penalty for ocon
2 year penalty for magnussen
@@Me-0063 Life without parole for Alonso for going over the speed limit (he wasn't even in the pit lane)
@@nathangaspacio6128 Reprimand for Norris for being blocked 💀
The reason for the inconsistency is because stewards and officials change from race to race.
5 second penalty for Ocon will never get old
So glad to see someone else talking about this, the penalties have been getting further and further divorced from reality for a while
Rick back with another banger 🔥
Damn your videos reminds me of a youtuber i once watched and one of my fav you got a new sub
Did Logan sargeant get a three place grid drop for that race mentioned like Daniel got for the Chinese GP? Danny was given such a shit punishment with DNFing that race :(
“Bro dafuq you mean 5 second penalty for ocon?! That shi outdated asf!”
Greatest outro of all time 😂
Another banger video from the simply Better and Correct F1 TH-camr 🙏
No mention of Daniel Riccardo.
i fink some water mark like thing on the thumbnails might be good idea BECAUSE
I had no idea this was your video lol. like it took me seeing it 7 times
I don't know how I've just now found this channel. This is some of the best content I've seen watched in forever, AND its about f1. No F**ks given! Hitting with left hooks. Getting out the real business with no BS. I absolute love this and I already on a 3 hour binge watch streak and I'm not stopping til I get to the bottom of this GD list. Rick you are the man.
I think there must be a list of penalties regarding common "inchidents", so everyone knows what they are getting into and making the sport more fair.
One thing neglected is that stewards are meant to find blame on one party (a driver for example) to be giving out penalties. This isn't said much but it's a fact, if an incident has partial blame from multiple parties a majority of the time it'll be a racing incident, this is to make stewarding easier & try to help consistency (im not saying they're consistent lol) im more giving a reason why some incidents will seem inconsistent when there's factors that would make them consistent with the whole needing there to be 1 driver at total fault etc... great video
btw your videos are awesome, they’re funny asf but also interesting
"Death by Firing Squad for Ocon" - the FIA Probably
ok but 10 sec for ocon might be canon now
these videos are so good and addictive
I love how he uses leclerc and sainz as model partners
came for fia slander, left with another reason why having a highway sleepover is a great idea. thank you rickf1addiction
Banger video 🔥🔥
1:03 literally Monaco's first lap
Thanks for teaching me how the law work in the real world Rick.
Finally the best f1 creator is here🔥🔥
Cool video Bro! 20 sec penalty for Ocon
I swear nobody realises this about abu dhabi and everybody says Alonso brake checked Hamilton. He didn't brake check, he had a brainlag and forgot about the layout change being so used to driving the version of the track with the chicane. You can tell for sure by his car positioning, very far to the right getting ready for a sharp left hander as opposed to the smooth way to the curb he was doing on all other laps and thats not even mentioning the fact that he was defending from Hamilton
Idea: time penalty for the offense, point penalty for the outcome, specifically from a safety perspective. Bump a guy's tyre with your nose, popping his tyre and ruining his race, but he can still make it back to the pits? Time penalty, no points. Cause him to go off into the barrier? Time penalty AND points.
After Monaco I feel that 10 second time penalty for Magnussen is somewhat justifiable
Being inconsistently consistent is FIA's specialty. Since whatever the penalty is being officially ruled.
i feel like he will never talk about imola
rick really is in denial rip
Okay think about this, isn't it ironic that there are super car manufacturers in F1 that sell their products for millions of dollars but the one team that is setting a ungodly amount of records in the recent past is a company that sell their product for 2 dollars.
love your content
the tae retro beats in the back make this so much better
be careful, the fia might give you a 10 sec time penalty for posting this video
0:11 what was that man??????
You are so real for this video ngl
Johnny Herbert. The same man to drive a Mazda 787B to victory. What a surprise!
5:35 also cause one of the stewards had beef with Alonso. Corruption and pettiness among the stewards is also a thing unfortunately..
very unbiased towards alonso here as per usual rick!
I love this video!😊
Aston get hosed by the stewards all the time though. Any unnecessary penalties ruin the sport.
It’s important to note that the telemetry showed Alonso brake, downshift, accelerate, upshift, then brake again at turn 6 in Melbourne, so no he was not braking early and coasting lol. He even tried to blame it on a mechanical mishap over the radio… He absolutely should’ve gotten penalized for it but 20 seconds is definitely harsh af. Rest of the video bangs tho
when that clip for DUI happened like 5 minutes away from you and remember driving past
The voice at the end😂
Let's be honest, the only way you can enforce rules on Drivers and Teams is with points deductions and time penalties.
this video saved my family
0:15 Cops where I live don't enforce this law, bikes going the wrong way up a street, bikes running stop signs, bikes running red lights or bikes on sidewalks
btw penalty points don’t affect previous races even when given after those races are finished, so there’s no excuse for the fia to be so inconsistent with them, cause u have all the time to analize various incidents and give fair penalty points
Someone needs to make a video series compilation akin to "NASCAR inconsistencies & BS" for F1 already.
death sentence for touching a driver - FIA
Babe wake up, my favourite alonso fan posted
I don’t know but FÍA has personal grudges with Alonso for levying 20 seconds penalty where as for similar incident they levied 10 seconds penalty to max in Austrian race. So unfair.
what happens in first lap, stays at the first lap
10 second penalty for everyone who didn't subscribe Rick's channel yet
And yesterday Sainz didn't get a grid drop for doing the same thing that Piastri did in qualifying last week
if rick were to ever commentate 24hrs of le mans he could prob shortcut it into a 15 min video lol
Yo Ricky stanicki I need your help, how do you make your vids. I wanna make a prediction for tomorrow
Here after Monaco 💀
it’s very easy to give pentalies and be influenced to give them by the result (ex. a crash has a more likely chance for penatly.) and sometimes, crashes should get penalties, other times it’s just because it’s a crash. great example with alonso cause alonso was just driving and defending himself (almost like it’s a racing sport). offense>outcome is the FIA’S *greatest* struggle.
0:59 That def aged well
Yeah I don't get how KMag forcing someone off-track can get one more Penalty Point than literally PIT maneuvering Yuki Tsunoda out of a race. It makes no sense.
BABE THE BEST F1 TH-camR IS BACK AGAIN
Even more recent example - Brazil 2023, near the end of the previous season.
He applied the exact same tactic against perez for like 10+ laps, and it was one of, if not the best battles that entire year.
He's been praised for doing that for decades at this point, so suddenly penalizing it because a poor (british) driver slid is crazy.
Imma be real and call british bias here lmao, incident instead of outcome tends to benefit certain people.
The FIA was supposed to fix the +5 seconds for everything penalty system they had been using, but instead they just changed it to +10 seconds for everything.
If you watch IndyCar, you'll see drive-throughs, drivers ordered to give X positions up, time penalties, and all sorts of things.
Does anyone know what song is being Played at the 7:50 mark
6:36 bro that Ferrari fan looks like he’s about to go into a deep depression
Part of the inconsistency with the FIA is likely due to the fact that they don't have the same stewards each race. Which is very stupid
No penalty for lewis for kissing 5 cars 😂😂
Let's go another masterpiece by Rick
add like 3s penalty and no penalty point for speeding and overtaking under safty car, because those are the most disproportionately to the offence