Yes! I started an epoxy flooring business, and my very first experience, was almost exactly the same. I didn’t get the epoxy out of the bucket quick enough and it went off in the bucket before we could get it all on the floor. Note: polyaspartic you have roughly 20-30 minutes to work with it IN the pot/bucket. Epoxy, is the exact opposite! Get it on the floor right away and start moving it around!
Same thing happened to me last night man....I'm so devastated. I literally mixed 5-600 sq feet just to start painting the edges first. By the time I got ready to actually roll the floor....I poured onto the floor and the stuff would barely spread. At that point I knew I was scared!!! I learned my lesson. Mix and get straight to the pour don't waste no time. Now I have to do it all over again. But thing time I. Gonna do half first.
Holy sh*t, the same exact thing happened to me my first reflector floor. Was taking my time and left the epoxy in buckets (3 different colors🤦♂️) turned around and they were all smoking. They are expensive but great lessons to learn; get the epoxy on the floor right away!!! 😆🤣
I use the same spikes for driveway sealing . Had to install the spikes myself so I didn't have that problem. Hoping to get into the epoxy flooring business soon. Hope it went well the 2nd time.
Oh man you guys are awesome. I loved how you guys worked this out and learned from your experience! Keep up the great commentary. Thank you for letting us know that Bryan was fishing and working. It must be a difficult thing to balance a computer on a boat 🤔! All jokes aside thanks for the video guys.
Every school cost..... in exchange you gain knowledge and experience..... In my work I can chose between fast, medium or slow hardener ( but strength of the bond varies accordingly). Of course epoxy is temperature and moisture sensitive ( it will affect curing ) , and creates it's own temperature trough chemical reaction, which is starting as soon as 2 components are in contact.... Bigger the mixed batch - more volatile chemical reaction is, creating higher temperatures ( just what you have experienced ) .... and higher the temperature - faster ( curing ) solidifying . For cleaning or diluting coatings- acetone can be used. After floor - you can start building boats ...... ( just add glass fiber ) Good luck !
Not gonna make the same beginner mistakes again. Gonna make all new beginner mistakes this time. At least that's how it goes for me. I rarely make the same mistakes twice, but that doesn't mean I don't keep making mistakes.
If your watching the video like I did and wondering what happened, it overheated due to mixing everything at one time. Lesson: spread quickly. Tip I've seen elsewhere, if you want to mix it all at one time, set the mixture into water, it will dissipate some of the heat, but still take precautions to not overmix
Yea I did my garage floor w leggarri and their product failed miserably. After pouring there were 15-20 bubbles and I kept hearing the videos here they said leggarri epoxy bubbles will pop on their own . Ummm yea nah they didn't. 1 hour after I couldn't walk on the floor anymore there were 2000 bubbles . Now I'm sanding the floor down and trying to fill the bubble holes. I've spent $350 in rental equipment sandpaper etc. When I called leggarri no one was available to talk to me till 2 days later . And they blamed me . They blamed the concrete , they said it's the concrete blowing air bubbles but I think it's a chemical reaction in their product. I got brown primer from them, mixed it exactly as specified and applied everything exactly as specified They recommended vapor barrier to go over concrete but nowhere in their 150 videos I watched did they mention air bubbles from concrete . Im going to call Spartan for a price to go over this garbage . So what kind of prize do I win. ? This floor is 550 sq feet and cost me $2200 plus shipping plus additional $350 and 2 days (and counting) of fixing.
I have done multiple metallic epoxy floors with different products. I always always use vapor barrier for this exact reason, my first floor had a base coat/primer coat that had hundreds of air bubbles. Ever since then I have had 0 issues with out gassing or pin holes which is due to the concrete.
@@cedcampbell47012 that's does work right away . But after the epoxy starts to harden you can't walk on it anymore.. also they had me put a gallon per 75 sw feet to sell more products? And so it's so thick it hardens from the top down Thereby allowing the bottom layers to be soft enough that air gets in the bottom but the top is hard so it blows bubbles you can't fix.
Same thing happened to me last night man....I'm so devastated. I literally mixed 5-600 sq feet just to start painting the edges first. By the time I got ready to actually roll the floor....I poured onto the floor and the stuff would barely spread. At that point I knew I was scared!!! I learned my lesson. Mix and get straight to the pour don't waste no time.
Omg, thank you guy's for this video. I've had this happen to me on wood projects when I got way to aggressive, or overconfident with my mixes. Literally laughed out loud, but I felt horrible for guy's. Epoxy mistakes are not cheap!
My first floor with my father on our garage we let the material in a bucket and as we are rolling it 5 minutes in we see smoke starting to come out the bucket, by the time we tried to throw it on the floor it was already like a rock and looked like lava that had cooled off 😂 you live and you learn !!
We just had our basement floor metallic epoxied. We were told it would look and feel like glass when finished. It was spectacular until he put the final coat on. Then it fish eyed? I think that's what he called it. Then he redid the top coat and now it looks like there's sand in it or like it's textured with lots of debris and you can see every scratch from when he sanded it prior to this final coat. It is supposed to look like marble. We are devastated. We paid so much money. Can this be fixed?😭😩
I feel for yall so much on this. I used to do FX work with silicone and resins. there is literally no feeling in the world worse than when you go to pour that bucket full of $600+ of material in a mold only to find that its already kicked and solid. lets just say its a mistake that I only did once. Side note we had a wobbly 5 gallon bucket mold that we kicked around the shop for years as the most expensive (and strange) door stop that I've ever made 🤣🤣🤣 One other note to this, depending on your climate/humidity/current temp it will drastically change the amount of working time you have. From personal experience do a bit of research to see how those factors effect the hardening time. It will save you lots of time, stress and money. Also do a bit of research on known compounds that will keep a product from firming up. ie: linseed oil is put in a lot of hand creams; even a little bit will cause silicone to never harden
Thank you for that instruction clarification! Sometimes, what we are expecting to happen can override what the bones' bare understanding of the instruction is telling us. We can read more into the instructions than what it says. That's a good reminder.
That really sucks. Theres some companies out there that have epoxies that are specifically made for metallic jobs, they're thinner and longer pot life to flow better. If you want to stay with that product, you could put some isopropyl (91% or higher) in with the mix, it'll thin it out and make life easier. One thing I saw was you probably should have used more material, it looked pretty thin to me. And 100% mix and dump it lol, it's a small enough area that you guys will get it the second time around. Just don't lose your nuts ;)
A ton of experience in every type of construction trade? Na. No way in hell should you have screwed this up. More like gophers in some construction trades. Its 2 pack there is not much simpler other than boiling an egg.
Avoid Spartan at all costs. Slick salesmen makes promises they cannot fulfill, after that they could care less. They are not chemists that created their own formula, they are dude-bros in an office repackaging someone else's product and charging you way more than appropriate for making a call or sending an email. Do some research, and go directly to the source. If you hire someone that wants to use Spartan, find another contractor. Their cleat failure in this video is a prime example, instead of "sorry bout that, will send a replacement" how about selling a better initial product? Your replacement would not have meant much if one of the junk nuts got missed and cured into the customers floor, now would it? If they cannot sell a reasonable cleat, why would you trust anything else? Think about how bad it would be if one of these pours went really bad, the cleanup and recovery would be a legitimate nightmare! Their "oops, sorry" would not help one bit. I have done more than a dozen of these floors now, only bad experience was Spartan. Never trust TH-cam videos that focus one one brand alone.
Has anyone else ever messed something up like this? Share your biggest DIY fail! The best one wins a prize!
Just had a guy come do my garage floor ...and fucking ruined it , now looking into doing it myself
Im starting my own epoxy company soon and this video is great learning tool for us noobs! Thanks for sharing !
@@dentman62 Same experience but with our basement floor. We paid SO MUCH money and it looks HORRIBLE. 😭
Yes! I started an epoxy flooring business, and my very first experience, was almost exactly the same. I didn’t get the epoxy out of the bucket quick enough and it went off in the bucket before we could get it all on the floor.
Note: polyaspartic you have roughly 20-30 minutes to work with it IN the pot/bucket. Epoxy, is the exact opposite! Get it on the floor right away and start moving it around!
Same thing happened to me last night man....I'm so devastated. I literally mixed 5-600 sq feet just to start painting the edges first. By the time I got ready to actually roll the floor....I poured onto the floor and the stuff would barely spread. At that point I knew I was scared!!! I learned my lesson. Mix and get straight to the pour don't waste no time. Now I have to do it all over again. But thing time I. Gonna do half first.
Is there an update video to this? I loved you guys' honesty on this. Would love to see how it turned out
Holy sh*t, the same exact thing happened to me my first reflector floor. Was taking my time and left the epoxy in buckets (3 different colors🤦♂️) turned around and they were all smoking. They are expensive but great lessons to learn; get the epoxy on the floor right away!!! 😆🤣
I’ve been doing these 25 plus years ….it gets old hearing how easy it is from home owners that watch TH-cam.
It’s a lot!!! Of prep…the prep is under told
I use the same spikes for driveway sealing . Had to install the spikes myself so I didn't have that problem. Hoping to get into the epoxy flooring business soon. Hope it went well the 2nd time.
Oh man you guys are awesome. I loved how you guys worked this out and learned from your experience! Keep up the great commentary. Thank you for letting us know that Bryan was fishing and working. It must be a difficult thing to balance a computer on a boat 🤔! All jokes aside thanks for the video guys.
Went out and bought spike cleats. To self level. They work so much better
Every school cost..... in exchange you gain knowledge and experience.....
In my work I can chose between fast, medium or slow hardener ( but strength of the bond varies accordingly).
Of course epoxy is temperature and moisture sensitive ( it will affect curing ) , and creates it's own temperature trough chemical reaction, which is starting as soon as 2 components are in contact.... Bigger the mixed batch - more volatile chemical reaction is, creating higher temperatures ( just what you have experienced ) .... and higher the temperature - faster ( curing ) solidifying .
For cleaning or diluting coatings- acetone can be used.
After floor - you can start building boats ...... ( just add glass fiber )
Good luck !
Not gonna make the same beginner mistakes again. Gonna make all new beginner mistakes this time.
At least that's how it goes for me. I rarely make the same mistakes twice, but that doesn't mean I don't keep making mistakes.
If your watching the video like I did and wondering what happened, it overheated due to mixing everything at one time.
Lesson: spread quickly.
Tip I've seen elsewhere, if you want to mix it all at one time, set the mixture into water, it will dissipate some of the heat, but still take precautions to not overmix
Put a drop of clear epoxy on the threads then tighten. It will act as a thread locker
This is why I'll get professionals.
thank you for sharing!
🤣🤣🤣 he slipped grate video guys
👍🏼
Gotta work fast man
That my teacher 💀
Another Trick is you can use Baseball or Golf Cleats in place of the Janky spike shoes.
But did they actually teach you anything I 100% blame your epoxy dealer for that failure he should have instructed you CLEARLY
exactly what i was thinking
Yea I did my garage floor w leggarri and their product failed miserably. After pouring there were 15-20 bubbles and I kept hearing the videos here they said leggarri epoxy bubbles will pop on their own . Ummm yea nah they didn't. 1 hour after I couldn't walk on the floor anymore there were 2000 bubbles . Now I'm sanding the floor down and trying to fill the bubble holes. I've spent $350 in rental equipment sandpaper etc.
When I called leggarri no one was available to talk to me till 2 days later . And they blamed me . They blamed the concrete , they said it's the concrete blowing air bubbles but I think it's a chemical reaction in their product. I got brown primer from them, mixed it exactly as specified and applied everything exactly as specified
They recommended vapor barrier to go over concrete but nowhere in their 150 videos I watched did they mention air bubbles from concrete .
Im going to call Spartan for a price to go over this garbage . So what kind of prize do I win. ? This floor is 550 sq feet and cost me $2200 plus shipping plus additional $350 and 2 days (and counting) of fixing.
That is terrible! I feel your pain! Hopefully it will work out.
I have done multiple metallic epoxy floors with different products. I always always use vapor barrier for this exact reason, my first floor had a base coat/primer coat that had hundreds of air bubbles. Ever since then I have had 0 issues with out gassing or pin holes which is due to the concrete.
I have watched a lot of these videos and I see them use heat gun or hair dryer to bring the bubbles out. On countertops anyway.
It didn't work out. I sanded the floor as flat as possible and cleaned it 3 times and then put the top coat on.
@@cedcampbell47012 that's does work right away . But after the epoxy starts to harden you can't walk on it anymore.. also they had me put a gallon per 75 sw feet to sell more products? And so it's so thick it hardens from the top down
Thereby allowing the bottom layers to be soft enough that air gets in the bottom but the top is hard so it blows bubbles you can't fix.
Thanks guys for a honest video, and some great tips. Nothing beats practice.
Same thing happened to me last night man....I'm so devastated. I literally mixed 5-600 sq feet just to start painting the edges first. By the time I got ready to actually roll the floor....I poured onto the floor and the stuff would barely spread. At that point I knew I was scared!!! I learned my lesson. Mix and get straight to the pour don't waste no time.
Your mistakes are not in vain.Your video helps me know what not to do. I sincerely thank you
Happy to help!
The dance at @3:30secs OMG 🤣🤣🤣🤣 you did him dirty🤣
Omg, thank you guy's for this video. I've had this happen to me on wood projects when I got way to aggressive, or overconfident with my mixes. Literally laughed out loud, but I felt horrible for guy's. Epoxy mistakes are not cheap!
My first floor with my father on our garage we let the material in a bucket and as we are rolling it 5 minutes in we see smoke starting to come out the bucket, by the time we tried to throw it on the floor it was already like a rock and looked like lava that had cooled off 😂 you live and you learn !!
You’re such a good friend 😊
Can you put clear epoxy over exterior marble floor ?
now i know. just mix whatvyou could finish
We just had our basement floor metallic epoxied. We were told it would look and feel like glass when finished. It was spectacular until he put the final coat on. Then it fish eyed? I think that's what he called it. Then he redid the top coat and now it looks like there's sand in it or like it's textured with lots of debris and you can see every scratch from when he sanded it prior to this final coat. It is supposed to look like marble. We are devastated. We paid so much money. Can this be fixed?😭😩
I feel for yall so much on this. I used to do FX work with silicone and resins. there is literally no feeling in the world worse than when you go to pour that bucket full of $600+ of material in a mold only to find that its already kicked and solid. lets just say its a mistake that I only did once. Side note we had a wobbly 5 gallon bucket mold that we kicked around the shop for years as the most expensive (and strange) door stop that I've ever made 🤣🤣🤣
One other note to this, depending on your climate/humidity/current temp it will drastically change the amount of working time you have. From personal experience do a bit of research to see how those factors effect the hardening time. It will save you lots of time, stress and money. Also do a bit of research on known compounds that will keep a product from firming up. ie: linseed oil is put in a lot of hand creams; even a little bit will cause silicone to never harden
Thank you for that instruction clarification! Sometimes, what we are expecting to happen can override what the bones' bare understanding of the instruction is telling us.
We can read more into the instructions than what it says.
That's a good reminder.
That really sucks. Theres some companies out there that have epoxies that are specifically made for metallic jobs, they're thinner and longer pot life to flow better. If you want to stay with that product, you could put some isopropyl (91% or higher) in with the mix, it'll thin it out and make life easier. One thing I saw was you probably should have used more material, it looked pretty thin to me. And 100% mix and dump it lol, it's a small enough area that you guys will get it the second time around. Just don't lose your nuts ;)
😂😂😂 thanks for this vide. Love it. Especially the positive attitude.
Great presentation
I lasted nine seconds!
Lesion learn you guys did great for first time!
You live and you learn, thanks for the lesson gentleman
😂😂😂funny video, first experience
Love it! God Bless! Great content!
🤣🤣🤣 he slipped great video guys
PERIOD BESTIE
A ton of experience in every type of construction trade? Na. No way in hell should you have screwed this up. More like gophers in some construction trades. Its 2 pack there is not much simpler other than boiling an egg.
Avoid Spartan at all costs. Slick salesmen makes promises they cannot fulfill, after that they could care less. They are not chemists that created their own formula, they are dude-bros in an office repackaging someone else's product and charging you way more than appropriate for making a call or sending an email. Do some research, and go directly to the source. If you hire someone that wants to use Spartan, find another contractor. Their cleat failure in this video is a prime example, instead of "sorry bout that, will send a replacement" how about selling a better initial product? Your replacement would not have meant much if one of the junk nuts got missed and cured into the customers floor, now would it? If they cannot sell a reasonable cleat, why would you trust anything else? Think about how bad it would be if one of these pours went really bad, the cleanup and recovery would be a legitimate nightmare! Their "oops, sorry" would not help one bit. I have done more than a dozen of these floors now, only bad experience was Spartan. Never trust TH-cam videos that focus one one brand alone.