@@GPWoodworks Been looking at molding veg leather and had this very thought process. You'd be the first guy I've seen doing it. How long did you leave it in the bag for? I suppose once formed you could add a hairdryer to speed up the process?
@@catchagrip.9468 With this setup, I usually let it ride for 10-15 minutes... You can pull it out and then put it back if you feel like it needs more time. Drying is truly best done with just time... I do, sometimes, get impatient and use a toaster oven at 150F with the door propped open slightly... BUT I highly recommend not walking away... AND pulling the piece out every few minutes to cool. Cooked ("Cured") leather gets much harder to work with.
@@GPWoodworks Thanks for your reply bud. I'll add the necessary tools to my list ; } I think this would be faster than playing around with it, I've seen others using small tacks to hold down the work piece while drying takes place. The small holes disappear when dying etc takes place. Obviously they're not using a vacuum bag. Looks good bud, keep up the good work.
That lathe burnisher you made has really made itself handy. I'm always very impressed with these leather projects, I wouldn't have thought that such a result was even possible in a home shop.
I sort of do this with kydex and have just bought my first piece of leather and tools. I have use a foodsaver vacuum sealer I use to suck that last bit of shape out of each sheath I make . Never even crossed my mind to use it to wet form my first leather sheath! It was a Duh! moment but I appreciate you putting this out there... my other plan would have been much more, involved, we'll say lol. Good vid and beautiful sheath brother!
Bob Thenob Torch? Well, someone is from the UK. You must admit, flashlight makes more sense than torch. Unless of course you are designing a holster for a legitimate burning or gas fed torch.
I use the Ziplock vacuum sealer and bags. They really work great. It pulls the vacuum and seals all at one time. And it SEALS. It does not contaminate the sealer any for future food use.
I switched to a vacuum pump and space saver bags a couple of years ago... I have seen people use the food saver bags with really good results. It works really well.
Thanks! I have a habit of spilling containers... I can use all the help I can get. Here's an example if you're interested (It's a really old video... don't judge too harshly) :) th-cam.com/video/zF4ksyC_nv4/w-d-xo.html
I am sure the board takes some of the water away from the leather but I am even more sure the lather would be almost dry when you combine a board, piece of fabric and 1-1,5 inch plaster slab (like the potters use to dry out clay slip)
Great job with this - I loved the idea of using a clamp to keep the dye bottle secure (I will be using this trick next project). Question - why did you use the roller at the end near the stitching? Was it to add some additional styling detail?
That is a good point... This is a fairly old video... I have since upgraded to a vacuum pump and started using canvas to serve this purpose. Thanks for posting the comment.
@@GPWoodworks also if it helps any in my line of work (which is vacuum bag related) we use polypropylene cut into a palm size teardrop shape and smoothed around the edge to avoid puncturing the bag, but with the shape it allows you to roll the pollyprop on edge, around the perimeter of the part you are moulding. Giving a much sharper internal corner on the finished material. (If that's what you want) .
On a clip there's a vacuum bag the guy used for last 2 years. ? Worth fixing what it was. He then rubbed it but was still solid. Quality plastic. What thickness was this to get the vacuumed corners as good as you did?
I just use the super cheap space saver bags. When they get weak or start leaking, I replace them. There are resources for permanent plastic for vacuum forming, they are typically sold as "vacuum press" components. Here are 2 that I found with a quick search: www.vacupress.com/vacuum-pressing-purchase-bags/ www.veneersupplies.com/categories/Vacuum__Press__Items/Vacuum__Press__Kits/
Any strong vacuum will work. I used a 1 gal shop vac in this video. I have used larger shop vacs for this (works a little better). I have seen people use food saver vacuum sealers for this, so if you already have one of those...
Hello to you. Could you please give me a tip to harden leather to stiffen the back of my first little pocket I am building. Thank you for your advice. Grateful. Fabrice
Yes wet it before the vacuum... I usually let it sit under vacuum for 5-10 minutes... If the form is really detailed or intricate I will let it sit longer. I have let some pieces sit for an hour or two... but that is major overkill 99% of the time.
Very nice work. I have watched several videos trying to learn different techniques. The knife you made looks like a fantastic tool!! If I might suggest something, when you were sewing the sheath it was just flopping everywhere, why not just round over a piece of wood and insert it into the sheath and vise to hold it still??
That leather wasn't dried up after you took it off the mold was it? I was just thinking about it because if you are vacuuming out all the air then it will not be dried up. Am I correct on that?
Not dry at all... in fact it takes a day or two to dry... unless you're impatient like me and throw it in the toaster oven (on low) to speed things up.
My "Cliff from Cheers" explanation for the"no leather" would be that, if you put a leather jacket in there and vacuumed it, you would inadvertently vacuum form your jacket to the shape of a crushed plastic bag... so the fact it says "no leather" is a good indicator that it's perfect for vacuum forming leather on purpose!
It was a vacuum sealer bag. I use a foodsaver vacuum sealer on my kydex sheaths, sucks out all the air very well. You get great prints in kydex, I can attest to that. Wouldn't work as well the larger the sheath gets, believe me I know. But most work perfect and easy to boot!
Sir, an excellent job in the making of this Leatherman multitool sheath, ... and a very informative video too. One question please; ... what kind of tooling knife did you use for this job? It looked as if this weapon was slicing thru butter. Thank you Sir.
Thank you for the kind words. If you mean the knife with the green handle... I made that knife. There are better designs than this... But if you want to see how I made it... th-cam.com/video/IdQtfNH69vU/w-d-xo.html
Where do you guys buy decently priced tools and leather for beginers? I would love to dabble in leather working. Its truely a lost art thats fading really fast into obscurity.
I found a Tandy Leather store in my area and shopped the cheapest tools they had or waited for a sale. Shopping online works too... The el cheapo sites have some tool kits that can get you started for really cheap. I prefer to get only what I need for whatever project I am working on... then slowly add tools as I need them. If you start doing this and then decide it's not for you... it's probably best to not have invested a large sum of money in it. Kits are okay... but you will likely find that you only really use a small number of the tools they include on a regular basis. Links for Tandy and Weaver below... Take look at both and then look through the Banggood type sites. There will be something in that mix that will work for you. www.tandyleather.com/en/ www.weaverleathersupply.com/
You can buy these at almost any department store. These are designed for storing pillows, clothes and comforters. Just look for something called "space bags".
You can buy these at almost any department store. These are designed for storing pillows, clothes and comforters. Just look for something called "space bags".
@@GPWoodworks my pleasure I hate scammers!!! Nice vid by the way! I use a food saver for my wet molding. a clay modeling spoon helps to really press down around the edges.
If you mean the knife with the green handle... I made that knife. There are better designs than this... But if you want to see how I made it... th-cam.com/video/IdQtfNH69vU/w-d-xo.html
Thanks!!! Foodsavers work... I've seen other TH-camrs use them. If you're interested, here's the knife build video: th-cam.com/video/IdQtfNH69vU/w-d-xo.html&t
HA! You're probably not the only one. It is kind of annoying. I try to correct issues like that nowadays. Sorry... Thanks for the comment and for watching.
"Mold"-ing.... literally!! Black Mold on the wooden board and the back of the leather. And please when you make youtube videos cut your nails or at least clean them. and the most important thing is: wear pants! 05:43
I watched the video for the tips and it was useful... Who cares about the nails 💅 not watching for gel nails tutorial! 😂 😂 how long did you leave it in the bag?
If you are looking at this video and paying attention to a 2 second glimpse of what appears to be skin you are watching this video for all the wrong reason i personally appreciate people who are willing to share there knowledge with us knowing that they are gonna be scrutinized and insulted for every detail in the video thank you for your video dont let insecure people with obviously too much time on there hands bother you or your video making process
The vacuum bag worked WAY better than I thought it would. Thanks for bringing us along.
I admit it wasn't my idea... I have heard of/seen others do it. It does work very well though.
@@GPWoodworks Been looking at molding veg leather and had this very thought process. You'd be the first guy I've seen doing it. How long did you leave it in the bag for? I suppose once formed you could add a hairdryer to speed up the process?
@@catchagrip.9468 With this setup, I usually let it ride for 10-15 minutes... You can pull it out and then put it back if you feel like it needs more time.
Drying is truly best done with just time... I do, sometimes, get impatient and use a toaster oven at 150F with the door propped open slightly... BUT I highly recommend not walking away... AND pulling the piece out every few minutes to cool.
Cooked ("Cured") leather gets much harder to work with.
@@GPWoodworks Thanks for your reply bud. I'll add the necessary tools to my list ; }
I think this would be faster than playing around with it, I've seen others using small tacks to hold down the work piece while drying takes place. The small holes disappear when dying etc takes place. Obviously they're not using a vacuum bag. Looks good bud, keep up the good work.
You’re a life saver I couldn’t get it molded like I wanted until this !! Appreciate you sharing
That lathe burnisher you made has really made itself handy. I'm always very impressed with these leather projects, I wouldn't have thought that such a result was even possible in a home shop.
Thanks man! That's a really nice compliment.
That vacuum molding is the way to go. Great job!
Thanks Rusty!
Very nice! Thanks man! I was curious at how well a vacuum sealer would work for wet molding, I figured it would.
loved it Jason I especially liked that buffalo nickel snap brother!
Very nice, never would have thought of a vacuum bag
I sort of do this with kydex and have just bought my first piece of leather and tools. I have use a foodsaver vacuum sealer I use to suck that last bit of shape out of each sheath I make . Never even crossed my mind to use it to wet form my first leather sheath! It was a Duh! moment but I appreciate you putting this out there... my other plan would have been much more, involved, we'll say lol. Good vid and beautiful sheath brother!
This is awesome. I am starting to learn and want to make a EDC for things. I have those bags and a food sealer. Hopefully today.
That was amazing! I've never thought of vacuum seal leather like that! Great video!
I never would have thought to use one of those bags that way I may have to give this a try in the near future.
Nice looking leatherman pouch I like the vacuum bag solution
Thanks!
That develops great suction, takes shape very well!
came out nice, one day I'll try to do leather work.
thanks for sharing
Thank you... I have found it frustrating and enjoyable at the same time.
Awesome
I was thinking of making a holster for my phone leatherman and torch and was planning on making a mold but sod that, this looks a LOT easier
Bob Thenob Torch? Well, someone is from the UK. You must admit, flashlight makes more sense than torch. Unless of course you are designing a holster for a legitimate burning or gas fed torch.
@@dylconnaway9976 UK?
Try Australia
And my torch doesn't flash
I use the Ziplock vacuum sealer and bags. They really work great. It pulls the vacuum and seals all at one time. And it SEALS.
It does not contaminate the sealer any for future food use.
I switched to a vacuum pump and space saver bags a couple of years ago...
I have seen people use the food saver bags with really good results. It works really well.
Great job !!!Thick leather normally they use a thinner leather on the front , great job !
That turned out really good! Looks pretty simple. Shop vac to the rescue!
Yep,yes,and gotta try it.
Thanks for the instructions, that clamp hack for the dye was hilarious !
Thanks! I have a habit of spilling containers... I can use all the help I can get.
Here's an example if you're interested (It's a really old video... don't judge too harshly) :)
th-cam.com/video/zF4ksyC_nv4/w-d-xo.html
Excellent job my brother. Thanks!
Thank you!
All those sharps and no nail clippers???
What’s really amazing is the fact that I didn’t notice his fingers or fingernails at all! Lol
Beautiful work
Excellent work.
Dietrich804
Thank you.
Very nice work! Thank you for sharing
Thank you... And, thanks for watching!
o!m!g! that vacuum way is so smart!!!
I am sure the board takes some of the water away from the leather but I am even more sure the lather would be almost dry when you combine a board, piece of fabric and 1-1,5 inch plaster slab (like the potters use to dry out clay slip)
That's an interesting idea.
Great job with this - I loved the idea of using a clamp to keep the dye bottle secure (I will be using this trick next project). Question - why did you use the roller at the end near the stitching? Was it to add some additional styling detail?
That helps seat and even out the stitches... just makes a cleaner stitch line.
This is a great idea☺
Next level
Looks like your new knife works well
Good Job! Thanks for the video.
How long did you leave it in the vacuum bag?
Look to get a 'breather' for your vacuum. It goes inside the bag and will stop the creases of the bag trasfering to your leather.
That is a good point...
This is a fairly old video... I have since upgraded to a vacuum pump and started using canvas to serve this purpose.
Thanks for posting the comment.
@@GPWoodworks also if it helps any in my line of work (which is vacuum bag related) we use polypropylene cut into a palm size teardrop shape and smoothed around the edge to avoid puncturing the bag, but with the shape it allows you to roll the pollyprop on edge, around the perimeter of the part you are moulding. Giving a much sharper internal corner on the finished material. (If that's what you want) .
On a clip there's a vacuum bag the guy used for last 2 years. ? Worth fixing what it was. He then rubbed it but was still solid. Quality plastic. What thickness was this to get the vacuumed corners as good as you did?
I just use the super cheap space saver bags. When they get weak or start leaking, I replace them.
There are resources for permanent plastic for vacuum forming, they are typically sold as "vacuum press" components. Here are 2 that I found with a quick search:
www.vacupress.com/vacuum-pressing-purchase-bags/
www.veneersupplies.com/categories/Vacuum__Press__Items/Vacuum__Press__Kits/
Nice knife. Do you mind some info about it ?
Nice job
Looks awesome! May I ask what brand of the vacuum machine and vacuum compression bag did you use? Should it be better to use wet and dry vacuum?
Any strong vacuum will work. I used a 1 gal shop vac in this video.
I have used larger shop vacs for this (works a little better).
I have seen people use food saver vacuum sealers for this, so if you already have one of those...
@@GPWoodworks Thank you! so the water doesn't matter to the vacuum?
if you lay 2 shoe laces from the suction valve to the below the object you would have a canal for vacuuming the part
Thanks! I'll give that a shot.
Question: Could a piece of wet formed leather hold its shape without stitching? A 5-6 Oz piece
Yes. People use wet forming to make masks and all kinds of stuff.
this was actually way epic :O
Thank you!
Hello to you. Could you please give me a tip to harden leather to stiffen the back of my first little pocket I am building. Thank you for your advice. Grateful. Fabrice
Muy buen trabajo me encanta
Greetings thanks for sharing your knowledge in this fantastic video your vacuum pump is one or two stages and how many cfm, thankful.
In this video, I used a shop vacuum
Where did you purchase the vacuum bag ?. Thanks
Wal-Mart
Thank you
Dumb question but you still wet the leather before putting it under a vacuum? Also how long did you wait? Beginer here.
Yes wet it before the vacuum... I usually let it sit under vacuum for 5-10 minutes... If the form is really detailed or intricate I will let it sit longer. I have let some pieces sit for an hour or two... but that is major overkill 99% of the time.
@@GPWoodworks thank you!
Sweet. I’ll take one .
Great video I watched for learning the craft, unlike all those girls worry about your nails yes you ladyboys
what thickness is the leather you used?
I think it was 5-6oz...
where did you buy those snaps from?
www.tandyleather.com/en/product/theme-cap-line-24-snaps
Where May I buy those vacuum bags? Cool 😎 video
Eternally grateful.
You can buy these bags in most department stores or online... just look for "space bag" or "vacuum storage bags" or some facsimile of those terms.
I respect the work, I just don't like the big lip on the bottom.
Fair enough
Very nice work. I have watched several videos trying to learn different techniques. The knife you made looks like a fantastic tool!! If I might suggest something, when you were sewing the sheath it was just flopping everywhere, why not just round over a piece of wood and insert it into the sheath and vise to hold it still??
That's a good idea! I could have used the tool as well. Thanks for the suggestion.
That leather wasn't dried up after you took it off the mold was it? I was just thinking about it because if you are vacuuming out all the air then it will not be dried up. Am I correct on that?
Not dry at all... in fact it takes a day or two to dry... unless you're impatient like me and throw it in the toaster oven (on low) to speed things up.
@@GPWoodworks Got it. Thanks for the reply. Nice job on that one!
Nice one.
Thanks!
Case looks nice. Much easier way to wet form. I'm gonna try this. What's the name of that cool music in the background?
Thanks!
Can't remember the name of the song... It is from the free music in the youtube library.
Where can you buy vakum bags?
Hello Mike..very nice you gut your leather sheet, Where do you buy all those leather sheets..?
04:53 what is number of sand grind number?
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a normal vacuum storage bag?
Yes.
“This bag is way too big”
Next picture your cutting plastic...
Oh no! He cut the bag down? No, that’s the wrapper for the knife.
Any one notice the "no leather" label on the vacuum bag ? 3:58
HAHA!!! I totally missed that! Good catch!
I'm a rule breaker... It can't be helped.
My "Cliff from Cheers" explanation for the"no leather" would be that, if you put a leather jacket in there and vacuumed it, you would inadvertently vacuum form your jacket to the shape of a crushed plastic bag... so the fact it says "no leather" is a good indicator that it's perfect for vacuum forming leather on purpose!
It was a vacuum sealer bag. I use a foodsaver vacuum sealer on my kydex sheaths, sucks out all the air very well. You get great prints in kydex, I can attest to that. Wouldn't work as well the larger the sheath gets, believe me I know. But most work perfect and easy to boot!
Sir, an excellent job in the making of this Leatherman multitool sheath, ... and a very informative video too.
One question please; ... what kind of tooling knife did you use for this job? It looked as if this weapon was slicing thru butter.
Thank you Sir.
Thank you for the kind words.
If you mean the knife with the green handle... I made that knife.
There are better designs than this... But if you want to see how I made it...
th-cam.com/video/IdQtfNH69vU/w-d-xo.html
Hey nice knife
Where do you guys buy decently priced tools and leather for beginers? I would love to dabble in leather working. Its truely a lost art thats fading really fast into obscurity.
I found a Tandy Leather store in my area and shopped the cheapest tools they had or waited for a sale.
Shopping online works too... The el cheapo sites have some tool kits that can get you started for really cheap.
I prefer to get only what I need for whatever project I am working on... then slowly add tools as I need them. If you start doing this and then decide it's not for you... it's probably best to not have invested a large sum of money in it.
Kits are okay... but you will likely find that you only really use a small number of the tools they include on a regular basis.
Links for Tandy and Weaver below... Take look at both and then look through the Banggood type sites. There will be something in that mix that will work for you.
www.tandyleather.com/en/
www.weaverleathersupply.com/
Is there a name for the big knife with the green handle? Thanks
No Ma'am... No name for it that I know of.
I made it:
th-cam.com/video/IdQtfNH69vU/w-d-xo.html
Where did you buy the vacuum plastic bag?
Wal-Mart
Genius
Where and what kinda vacuum bag was that?? TY
You can buy these at almost any department store. These are designed for storing pillows, clothes and comforters. Just look for something called "space bags".
howdy thank for the video, where can I buy the bags for this video
You can buy these at almost any department store. These are designed for storing pillows, clothes and comforters. Just look for something called "space bags".
What knife were you using to trim?
This one:
th-cam.com/video/IdQtfNH69vU/w-d-xo.html
what kind of knife do you use to cut leather in the video?
I made that knife.
There are better designs than this... But if you want to see how I made it... th-cam.com/video/IdQtfNH69vU/w-d-xo.html
Any utility knife with changing blades will work. Make sure you have a cutting pad below. You can also use exacto knife.
Спасибо, отличная идея с вакуум-пакетом!👍
Респект из России!...)
Спасибо!
gret way next tim put velt under
FYI. Images from your video are being used to sell a vaccu-forming machine on Facebook
Thanks for the heads up.
@@GPWoodworks my pleasure I hate scammers!!! Nice vid by the way! I use a food saver for my wet molding. a clay modeling spoon helps to really press down around the edges.
Excelente. Parabéns.
Nice little project but dude, do something with those nasty ass fingernails!!!
what Kind of knife do you use?
If you mean the knife with the green handle... I made that knife.
There are better designs than this...
But if you want to see how I made it... th-cam.com/video/IdQtfNH69vU/w-d-xo.html
What kind of knife are you using?
This one:
th-cam.com/video/IdQtfNH69vU/w-d-xo.html
GP Woodworks thank you for fast respond. Now I have a new project.
Milt Pablo
No problem. Thanks for watching!
Fantastic and informative video, great end product.
But FFS, those nails!
No need for that🤮
Excellent knife for cutting leather! What kind of knife is it? I am going to try my foodsaver/bag
Thanks!!!
Foodsavers work... I've seen other TH-camrs use them.
If you're interested, here's the knife build video:
th-cam.com/video/IdQtfNH69vU/w-d-xo.html&t
Hey i got same leatherman.
Wow. ☺️👍
Am i the only one that likes the video but the damn plastic noises annoy the crap out of me!!! Feels like i can burst out shouting
HA! You're probably not the only one. It is kind of annoying. I try to correct issues like that nowadays.
Sorry... Thanks for the comment and for watching.
Lindazo!
Obrigado!
And it says on bag 'no leather ' 🤣
Подстриги ногти. :(
Мне нужно, чтобы они ковырялись в носу.
:)
"Mold"-ing.... literally!! Black Mold on the wooden board and the back of the leather.
And please when you make youtube videos cut your nails or at least clean them. and the most important thing is: wear pants! 05:43
Black mold does not form in 15 minutes. I was wearing khakis 8:57.
I watched the video for the tips and it was useful... Who cares about the nails 💅 not watching for gel nails tutorial! 😂 😂 how long did you leave it in the bag?
Oh look a troll. Under your bridge troll!
If you are looking at this video and paying attention to a 2 second glimpse of what appears to be skin you are watching this video for all the wrong reason i personally appreciate people who are willing to share there knowledge with us knowing that they are gonna be scrutinized and insulted for every detail in the video thank you for your video dont let insecure people with obviously too much time on there hands bother you or your video making process
Thanks gp woodworks
That all looks too hard...think I'll just buy one...
That's the spirit!
Question: Could a piece of wet formed leather hold its shape without stitching? A 5-6 Oz piece