Quick Comparison of 2 similar yet different 21 Specialized trail bikes. Stumpjumper Specs and Geo www.specialized.com/ca/en/stu... Status Geo statusmtb.bike/
regarding the front sprocket size difference - I don't think that you can say the 32T on the Status is worse for climbing than the 30T on the Stumpjumper - after all, the rear wheels are different sizes - the Status' smaller rear wheel effectively lowers the gearing compared to the Stumpy
My Staus Loves to jump and with the mullet set up feels more downhillish. When I bought it it was explained to me to be a park bike. It is great for that. I found with the long top tube it is harder to climb. I have A Stumpjumper alloy on the way I cant wait to compare. Thanks for the review.
I bought a 23 Status 140 and have been XC racing it. It was the only bike the shop recommended for me since i was 305 pounds at the start of the year. Im now down to 272, and loving biking. I wish the status had a 29" rear for my riding but it was a great sale when i got it for 2300 USD.
Thanks for this review. I was looking at the base Stumpy and the LBS dudes got me looking at the Status. Ended going with it, waiting for it to show up now. You're the only review I could find for the 140mm version. I live in FL and thought the 160mm would be overkill. I plan on traveling out of the state for riding but locally, 160mm isn't needed lol.
How do you like your status 140 for FL trails? I'm located in South Florida and am looking for my first suspension bike and its on sale, was considering it as my bike over the Siskiu T8.
Very interesting comparison. I personally have the alloy comp and find it to be a great trail bike. That spec per dollar for the Status is hard to beat if i lived in rowdier terrain that would be my bike. Thx for the comparison great vid!
I couldn't buy the status from where I live so I went with the stumpjumper comp alloy instead. Although where I live there isn't much for rowdy descends. So the stumpjumper turned out to be an awesome bike.
Uhm 32 vs 30T Chainring: You have to consider that there are also diffrent wheelsizes in the rear.. There is about 5-6% difference between the outer circumference of 27.5" to 29" Wheel and 2 teeth are that percentage. Torque will only transfer to the wheel if the cassete is turning clockwise with the wheel..meaning a 29" wheel turns 5-6% percent slower at the same ground speed..hence the smaller chainring. Turning the crank with the same frequency on both bikes gives you Roughly the same maintained speed over ground.
I wouldn't say the Status is the same intended use ase the stumpy. It's definitely for people who are more about jumping and playing around than all-out speed. And the Status is just generally more downhill oriented.
Any updated opinion a year later and maybe you've ridden the Status for a year. The lack of UDH is a bit sad on the Status. Also, not sure Deity grips are any better than Specialized house grips.. there's so much intermixing of production vs branding, maybe even the same manufacturer. Most likely both are pretty nice and made in Taiwan, which is good.
Thank you for your comparison. I also started on the Status 160 but felt it was to much travel for the riding around my area, flow with some steeps and technical. I looked at the Stumpy but decided on the 140 Status. Have you been able to get out on your 140 and how do you like it compared with the 160?
The 140 does pedal much better and is more suited to my terrain vs the 160. I was able to track down a Levo SL and I have been putting the most amount of miles on it though.
Hey quick questions. I'm 6ft7 and 260 with motocross and bmx background. I like the status bc of the mullet and playfulness and especially better components but it only goes up to a s5 vs the sj that goes to s6. What do you think the real size difference is or would u recommend between the s5 status and the s6 sj?
At your height I'd consider an Stumpjumper Evo comp alloy or carbon if you ride up hill sometimes. The Status is like a BMX bike for someone your size. If you want a trail bike consider the Evo in S6. I'm 6'3 230lbs and I've owned the Stumpy Evo Comp Carbon and it was just a bit too long but I could actually climb up steep hills without it looping out on me I also had way more traction in tight corners with the long wheelbase. One drawback of Specialized suspension it's it gets overwhelmed by heavy riders pretty quickly and can eat rear shocks pretty quickly if your and aggressive rider.
Some reviewers have noted the 'new design' on the Carbon Stumpy with the flex stays while more lively sacrifices the plushness of the old horst link system still available on the Alloy version. Did you find that to be the case?
Haven’t rode the carbon bikes but, the alloy is pretty plush, seems to be less efficient than a dw link or maestro setups that I have rode. The FSR does offer great traction though
I have the 160 Status. A big difference is that the long wheel base is countered by the mullet. Wicked turn in with the mullet. Nice slack stable bike that is still handy on tighter techy stuff. Preferred it over the Enduro if not into racing. Demoed them both, Enduro is faster up and down, but it was the Status that made me smile the most. Dropped a GRIP2 in the fork, cheap upgrade that makes a massive difference. Other bike is a 2018 Kenevo. Needed a lighter weight play bike.
I’ve recently sold a 2020 status 160 and bought a 2021 Stumpjumper comp alloy. The status was an absolute pig to pedal on any surface as the rear shock soaked up all the energy. With the correct PSI the sag was still enough to cause a lot of pedal strikes. In comparison the SJ has a sleeker looking frame and definitely a lot more pedal efficient than the 160. I considered getting a 140 status, but I’d imagine there wouldn’t be a night a day difference. I don’t ride down hill tracks, mostly single track with technical rocky climbs and tree roots. The SJ makes more sense.
Have you tried putting the rear half from the stump jumper on the status, IV heard that someone took their broken sj frame and put the rear triangle on the status to go full 29 status?
Nice comparison! What's the fox 4 letter code on the fox DPS shock on the Stumpjumper Alloy? I have the lower model and thinking about upgrading the shock.
@@rodrigopages1054 Thanks, but i know that part already. It's the 4 digit/letter code that I'm interested in. That code gives everything about the tune of the shock on Fox suspeion tech pages.
Thanks for the comparison. I would be curious to know if the Status 140 pedals any better than the Status 160, otherwise what’s the point of the shorter travel version? Btw a 32 tooth chainring turning a 27.5” wheel provides very similar gearing to a 30 tooth chainring turning a 29” wheel (all else being equal).
How's the 140 treating yah now? I'm building frame up right now. I'm building mullet close to factory spec. If I do feel I want a zippy climber I'm going to throw a 160 27.5 fork or 150 29r and run 27.5 front to back with nicer carbon wheels. Which makes this pretty close to something like the transition scout.
I ran the 140 for a couple of months last season. Was very active on climbs, but more manageable than the 160. Mullet will be a good mix, don't skimp on the rear shock. I suspect a float X or new RS would help a lot with the climbing if tuned properly.
Is the climbing for the status 160 really that bad? I want a very capable trail bike and it is an amazing deal right now. Where I live the only way to get to the downhill is to go up single track so that’s why I ask.
aye man any update what you did i can get a status frame for 750 and am ready to pull the trigger on my first FS bike but am seeing alot of the complaints about the climbing. a stumpjumper frame is $1200. in same boat as with my trails but dont want my first FS to be worse at climbing than my hardtail
@@big_bird8597 I ended up getting the status. Personally I love it and don’t regret it at all. I don’t think it climbs as terribly as people say, but I’ve also never rode any super efficient climbing bikes, so probably can’t compare it to something else very well. It’s a great bike if you want something that will get you up the hill and then allow you to shred down whatever you want. It would definitely be less efficient going up compared to your hard tail, so I would say if that matters to you definitely go for something more like a stumpy. TLDR: if you want a bike that will get you up hill just fine, but not the most efficient, and you want the most downhill capability you can get, go with the status. If you want a bike a similar to your hard tail when going up and are willing to sacrifice a little downhill performance, then I’d go with the stumpy. Hope this helps! Let me know if you have other questions
Dang I just ordered a stumpy comp and I didn’t even know about the status! But most of my tracks are single and not many jumps so I think it’ll be alright lol
I have the Comp Carbon. You will love that Bike it is a Dream! If you go tubeless and put on some trail/xc tyres it rolls much faster. I did go with Ground Control T7 front and Fast Trak T5 rear. You could also go maxxis recon. Also i Highly recommend setting the flip chip into the High position. Makes a high difference! Oh and put on a chain-guide (one up maybe). Cheers
Im pretty sure the status has 4 piston calipers with tbose stock brakes, making them more likely to fail over time. It's just something to consider if you maintain your bike yourself.
No, you do not change the horseshoe link you change the link that connects directly to the shock, I own a 140 and a 160 status so I have no need to change it but you would need the different link, bigger shock, and either a travel conversion kit for the fork or a different higher travel fork. But I don't know how you would be able to buy that separate link.
Nice Video. Can confirm that STATUS has no internal routing but i'm sure that also the aluminum Stumpjumper has it not bacause it was not available on my previous Stumpy EVO.
Could you do a comparison between Status 140 and 160? I am wondering if 140 is much better at pedaling or if it is not better and I should just get Status 160 instead. Thanks in advance.
I rotated both bikes out of my fleet so I can'd do another video but, the 160 is alot to handle on techy climbs. The 140 is a bit better but, you give up alot of capability if you live in a place with chunkier terrain. Both Bikes don't pedal near as good as a stumpy or stumpy evo.
@@angelotiongson3130 if you climb fire roads that would be true. If you are doing technical or trail climbs it is not good to lockout the shocks as you won't get as much traction
@@Mark-gq5vl No worries. I sent an email to specialized and they told me the brand of the hubs is BEAR PAWLS. They did not specify what the engagement was but good to know what brand finally is. They do sell an XD driver body for this hub just in case anyone needs that info.
regarding the front sprocket size difference - I don't think that you can say the 32T on the Status is worse for climbing than the 30T on the Stumpjumper - after all, the rear wheels are different sizes - the Status' smaller rear wheel effectively lowers the gearing compared to the Stumpy
My Staus Loves to jump and with the mullet set up feels more downhillish. When I bought it it was explained to me to be a park bike. It is great for that. I found with the long top tube it is harder to climb. I have A Stumpjumper alloy on the way I cant wait to compare. Thanks for the review.
sickk review man just what i was looking for 👍👍
I have a 2022 stump jumper alloy comp on order, can’t wait!!! Will compliment my 2021 turbo levo comp.
I bought a 23 Status 140 and have been XC racing it. It was the only bike the shop recommended for me since i was 305 pounds at the start of the year. Im now down to 272, and loving biking. I wish the status had a 29" rear for my riding but it was a great sale when i got it for 2300 USD.
Props to you for racing that bike, let alone on XC courses.
Great review. Thanks for putting this together.
Great review man! I just bought a status 140 to replace my stumpy
Thanks for this review. I was looking at the base Stumpy and the LBS dudes got me looking at the Status. Ended going with it, waiting for it to show up now. You're the only review I could find for the 140mm version. I live in FL and thought the 160mm would be overkill. I plan on traveling out of the state for riding but locally, 160mm isn't needed lol.
Ordered my 140 yesterday. Hope it comes in soon
How do you like your status 140 for FL trails? I'm located in South Florida and am looking for my first suspension bike and its on sale, was considering it as my bike over the Siskiu T8.
Which would you recommend between the two of them? For someone who only wants one bike for a do it all trail riding?
30t vs 32t chainring is geared for the mechanical advantage of the rear wheel size 29 vs 27
Agreed. 27.5 were standard with 32t and 30t for 27.5+/29
Was looking for this comment as soon as he said it
Beautiful bikes! Could u tell me what color the stump jumper is??
Very interesting comparison. I personally have the alloy comp and find it to be a great trail bike. That spec per dollar for the Status is hard to beat if i lived in rowdier terrain that would be my bike. Thx for the comparison great vid!
Thank you, Glad you Enjoyed it. The Stumpy is a great bike!
On chain ring observation, the 32T on the Status compensates for smaller 27.5 rear wheel compared to the 30T on the Stumpy with 29" rear wheel.
I have a random question, on the Stumpjumper can the brake hoses be switched over? I run right rear and left front. TIA
I couldn't buy the status from where I live so I went with the stumpjumper comp alloy instead. Although where I live there isn't much for rowdy descends. So the stumpjumper turned out to be an awesome bike.
hows the bike i cant pick between stumpjumper or stumpjumper evo its $500 difference in price
Thanks for the comparison. Status definitely more value for the dollar.
Trail bike with a 64.2 headtube angle? How does it compare with the Status 160?
Wow, my 2021 stumpy looks like it's been malled next to my chainring, thinking of getting a chain guide for it
Uhm 32 vs 30T Chainring: You have to consider that there are also diffrent wheelsizes in the rear.. There is about 5-6% difference between the outer circumference of 27.5" to 29" Wheel and 2 teeth are that percentage. Torque will only transfer to the wheel if the cassete is turning clockwise with the wheel..meaning a 29" wheel turns 5-6% percent slower at the same ground speed..hence the smaller chainring.
Turning the crank with the same frequency on both bikes gives you Roughly the same maintained speed over ground.
I wouldn't say the Status is the same intended use ase the stumpy. It's definitely for people who are more about jumping and playing around than all-out speed. And the Status is just generally more downhill oriented.
Link to that tool under the seat?
On the drivetrain having 2 more teeth they probably climb about the same because of the difference in rear wheel size.
Which one climbs uphill better?
Weight difference between the two?
Lube the review, good job. Where in Canada are you from? I myself is from Canada as well. TDot
Any updated opinion a year later and maybe you've ridden the Status for a year. The lack of UDH is a bit sad on the Status. Also, not sure Deity grips are any better than Specialized house grips.. there's so much intermixing of production vs branding, maybe even the same manufacturer. Most likely both are pretty nice and made in Taiwan, which is good.
great vid! just wondering where you got those pedals on the stumpy from? looking at getting the 2022 stumpy and might get some cool customisations!
They are oneup oil slick pedals. I got them from my LBS. You can get them at any oneup dealer
Thank you for your comparison. I also started on the Status 160 but felt it was to much travel for the riding around my area, flow with some steeps and technical. I looked at the Stumpy but decided on the 140 Status. Have you been able to get out on your 140 and how do you like it compared with the 160?
The 140 does pedal much better and is more suited to my terrain vs the 160. I was able to track down a Levo SL and I have been putting the most amount of miles on it though.
I never seen this color on a status before, is it a limited edition or something and its not a code r not a code
how tall are you for the s4?
Hey quick questions. I'm 6ft7 and 260 with motocross and bmx background. I like the status bc of the mullet and playfulness and especially better components but it only goes up to a s5 vs the sj that goes to s6. What do you think the real size difference is or would u recommend between the s5 status and the s6 sj?
At your height I'd consider an Stumpjumper Evo comp alloy or carbon if you ride up hill sometimes. The Status is like a BMX bike for someone your size. If you want a trail bike consider the Evo in S6. I'm 6'3 230lbs and I've owned the Stumpy Evo Comp Carbon and it was just a bit too long but I could actually climb up steep hills without it looping out on me I also had way more traction in tight corners with the long wheelbase. One drawback of Specialized suspension it's it gets overwhelmed by heavy riders pretty quickly and can eat rear shocks pretty quickly if your and aggressive rider.
Some reviewers have noted the 'new design' on the Carbon Stumpy with the flex stays while more lively sacrifices the plushness of the old horst link system still available on the Alloy version. Did you find that to be the case?
Haven’t rode the carbon bikes but, the alloy is pretty plush, seems to be less efficient than a dw link or maestro setups that I have rode. The FSR does offer great traction though
I have the 160 Status.
A big difference is that the long wheel base is countered by the mullet. Wicked turn in with the mullet. Nice slack stable bike that is still handy on tighter techy stuff.
Preferred it over the Enduro if not into racing. Demoed them both, Enduro is faster up and down, but it was the Status that made me smile the most.
Dropped a GRIP2 in the fork, cheap upgrade that makes a massive difference.
Other bike is a 2018 Kenevo. Needed a lighter weight play bike.
Hi Simon, could you explain more about this upgrade and what difference does it make. I have 2022 status 160 too
@@joicea11 Better damper, independent high and low speed compression.
Makes it a fox elite after that just different materials.
I didnt know you could put grip 2 in ryhtm series forks
I have the 160 and live next to boyne highlands bike park and it crushes, but your right when taking it on trails it is pretty damn hard to peddle
New to mtn biking. Looking to grab a bike for some flat trail riding in southern texas. Status not a good option?
I’m due to get back to Boyne. The skid mark drop got me last time I was there.. lol. Need redemption
How different do these bikes ride? Also, do you know if we can put an EVO adjust headset into a regular stumpy frame?
I haven't tried it but I would guess no. I think the stumpy evo has a slight oval on the headset to accommodate the geo change.
Do you have a link for the under seat tool kit?
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I’ve recently sold a 2020 status 160 and bought a 2021 Stumpjumper comp alloy. The status was an absolute pig to pedal on any surface as the rear shock soaked up all the energy. With the correct PSI the sag was still enough to cause a lot of pedal strikes.
In comparison the SJ has a sleeker looking frame and definitely a lot more pedal efficient than the 160. I considered getting a 140 status, but I’d imagine there wouldn’t be a night a day difference. I don’t ride down hill tracks, mostly single track with technical rocky climbs and tree roots. The SJ makes more sense.
Have you tried putting the rear half from the stump jumper on the status, IV heard that someone took their broken sj frame and put the rear triangle on the status to go full 29 status?
No I haven't, at that point I would just go Stumpjumper IMO
May I ask what pedals are on the comp alloy?
OneUp Flat Aluminum Pedals in Oil slick
Nice comparison! What's the fox 4 letter code on the fox DPS shock on the Stumpjumper Alloy? I have the lower model and thinking about upgrading the shock.
If you find out let me know as I am searching also but because of the yoke it’s hard
It’s a 190x42.5 shock for s1 sized bike and 190x45mm for s2-s6 bikes 👍🏽
@@rodrigopages1054 Thanks, but i know that part already. It's the 4 digit/letter code that I'm interested in. That code gives everything about the tune of the shock on Fox suspeion tech pages.
@@emilg3314 oh ok I know what you mean, I have one in the shop the code is: DX6N
Which frame protection do you have on the Stumpy?
Xpel Stealth (matte) cut by hand.
Wondering about sizing. Thinking S4. I’m 6’0 175. What’s your height, weight, thoughts on that? Thinking about possibly S5
I own the 160 travel Status S4, I am 6ft 200 lbs. I love it.
What color is the stumpy? They it’s purple on the website
SATIN CAST UMBER / CLAY
Thanks for the comparison. I would be curious to know if the Status 140 pedals any better than the Status 160, otherwise what’s the point of the shorter travel version?
Btw a 32 tooth chainring turning a 27.5” wheel provides very similar gearing to a 30 tooth chainring turning a 29” wheel (all else being equal).
How's the 140 treating yah now? I'm building frame up right now. I'm building mullet close to factory spec. If I do feel I want a zippy climber I'm going to throw a 160 27.5 fork or 150 29r and run 27.5 front to back with nicer carbon wheels. Which makes this pretty close to something like the transition scout.
I ran the 140 for a couple of months last season. Was very active on climbs, but more manageable than the 160. Mullet will be a good mix, don't skimp on the rear shock. I suspect a float X or new RS would help a lot with the climbing if tuned properly.
@Mark it came with the same spec shock frame up or complete. I'll run it a d see but that was the plan.
I cant find the status on the website
Interesting looks like they took down the status website. Maybe it is discontinued for 2022 as the evo aluminum is out?
Is the climbing for the status 160 really that bad? I want a very capable trail bike and it is an amazing deal right now. Where I live the only way to get to the downhill is to go up single track so that’s why I ask.
aye man any update what you did i can get a status frame for 750 and am ready to pull the trigger on my first FS bike but am seeing alot of the complaints about the climbing. a stumpjumper frame is $1200. in same boat as with my trails but dont want my first FS to be worse at climbing than my hardtail
@@big_bird8597 I ended up getting the status. Personally I love it and don’t regret it at all. I don’t think it climbs as terribly as people say, but I’ve also never rode any super efficient climbing bikes, so probably can’t compare it to something else very well. It’s a great bike if you want something that will get you up the hill and then allow you to shred down whatever you want. It would definitely be less efficient going up compared to your hard tail, so I would say if that matters to you definitely go for something more like a stumpy.
TLDR: if you want a bike that will get you up hill just fine, but not the most efficient, and you want the most downhill capability you can get, go with the status.
If you want a bike a similar to your hard tail when going up and are willing to sacrifice a little downhill performance, then I’d go with the stumpy.
Hope this helps! Let me know if you have other questions
Which did you enjoy riding more? I'm going between a 140 status and a Carbon Stumpjumper that will probably end up mullet
Stumpy hands down for what I do. If you do a lot of jumps or park the status is a better bet.
@@Mark-gq5vl Cool thanks! I'm leaning more towards tge Status because I would have to mullet the SJ and the carbon that scares me a bit
Dang I just ordered a stumpy comp and I didn’t even know about the status! But most of my tracks are single and not many jumps so I think it’ll be alright lol
I have the Comp Carbon. You will love that Bike it is a Dream! If you go tubeless and put on some trail/xc tyres it rolls much faster. I did go with Ground Control T7 front and Fast Trak T5 rear. You could also go maxxis recon.
Also i Highly recommend setting the flip chip into the High position. Makes a high difference!
Oh and put on a chain-guide (one up maybe).
Cheers
Im pretty sure the status has 4 piston calipers with tbose stock brakes, making them more likely to fail over time. It's just something to consider if you maintain your bike yourself.
This guy is high or something. 4 piston calipers are better all the way around.
@user-nf3oq2ge3g harder to maintain if you do your own maintenance was my point guy. That was pretty clear, i thought.
@@FeGolf "more likely to fail "
Stop smoking weed!
4 pot brakes are ok, but if one gets stuck you lose a lot of effectiveness.
Can you change the horseshoe link on the 140 and convert it to 160?
I am not 100% sure but I don’t think so. The frame is stamped to say ST which makes me think it has custom geo.
@@Mark-gq5vl thanks bro
No, you do not change the horseshoe link you change the link that connects directly to the shock, I own a 140 and a 160 status so I have no need to change it but you would need the different link, bigger shock, and either a travel conversion kit for the fork or a different higher travel fork. But I don't know how you would be able to buy that separate link.
@@jadeloff5557 can you try to convert your 140 status to 160? You got both bikes. That would be so helpful for us 😅 Make a video of it.
@@tagabukidmedia you can not, they are different front triangles.
Nice Video. Can confirm that STATUS has no internal routing but i'm sure that also the aluminum Stumpjumper has it not bacause it was not available on my previous Stumpy EVO.
I have the Status 160 and it definitely has internal routing.
Could you do a comparison between Status 140 and 160? I am wondering if 140 is much better at pedaling or if it is not better and I should just get Status 160 instead. Thanks in advance.
I rotated both bikes out of my fleet so I can'd do another video but, the 160 is alot to handle on techy climbs. The 140 is a bit better but, you give up alot of capability if you live in a place with chunkier terrain. Both Bikes don't pedal near as good as a stumpy or stumpy evo.
Mark for climbs though if you’re able to fully lock out the forks, it won’t matter anymore if you have the 140 or 160, right?
@@angelotiongson3130 if you climb fire roads that would be true. If you are doing technical or trail climbs it is not good to lockout the shocks as you won't get as much traction
Any idea what the engagement is on the rear Stumpjumper hub?
Sorry no idea. 99% sure these bikes have the same hub though
@@Mark-gq5vl No worries. I sent an email to specialized and they told me the brand of the hubs is BEAR PAWLS. They did not specify what the engagement was but good to know what brand finally is. They do sell an XD driver body for this hub just in case anyone needs that info.
Nice oil slick pedals
Thanks Luke
I have the specialized alloy and for $200 more dollars I could’ve had NX, 160mm travel, slacker geo, fox, etc 😐
yep
protip. play this at 1.25 speed... YOUR WELCOME!
Hahaha good call
Bro I don't know if you noticed. But you make a clicking sound after almost every sentence you say. So just letting you know.
Thanks for the feedback! That is annoying and I will try to work on it.
@@Mark-gq5vl fuck that. Don’t change for nobody. Keep being you. Ride on 👍
It’s not that bad. It’s your style haha keep it