Sorry for the delay ....yes...there's a 1968 double decker in the museum with absolutely sumptuous seating just as you described.....todays idiots just seem bent on destroying anything nice like slashing seats and swinging from handrails.....a sad society nowadays.....thanks for your comment.
Hi Mathew, firstly thank you for watching my video's, I can tell from your reply that you have the same passion for preservation of these old busses that helped generations of people to get about, I love to see the actual construction methods used at that time, unfortunately I am not involved with the Museum so I suggest an email or letter to the managing Director of the Greater Manchester Transport Society Bus Museum, Boyle Street Greater Manchester may serve your purpose better....In the meantime, I will be compiling a video of the reconstruction of Bus Number 436 a Crossley from the 1930's. Many thanks and My very best wishes....Alan.
These busses deserve more that being just sat idle in a museum.. they were all built to last like all old mech tech, you just don't see stuff like this anymore and should be in public to show they still run regardless, not just sat in some warehouse on show not running at all. Love the content nonetheless my friend!
They do run!!....they hold events organised by the museum throughout the year....free rides. have a look at their web site ...very interesting...Many thanks for your comment...Best regards, Alan.
@@mixwizard2310 Wow, good to hear, I'm from down south and hardly see any of these busses anymore, thanks for your comment back, maybe I'll visit you guys one day 😉
Very well produced video, I enjoyed it immensely. Nostalgia trip for me as I worked for Hants & Dorset and Southdown Motor Services many years ago as a fitter.
Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for your encouraging comment....There's always quite a lot of refurbishment going on in the background - the staff are ever so helpful - ask to see what's ongoing if you should visit again...Best regards.
Hi Guy's my name is Mr C. T. Boxill-Harris I was wondering, why coudn't you find a nice fresh shiny Leyland Titan B15's and Repaint them to a Grey Green Color's just like the original Scania Grey Green's which were in the East London bus route's such as 125, 313 and also the bus route 103, if you guy would like to find about 11 Leyland Titan B15's, please could you Repaint them in the Exact Grey Green Bus Color's for us because it would be a Very Very Very Very Interesting Buses to see them Repainted to a Grey Green Color's and I'am a Big Fan of all of the Leyland Titan B15's
@@mixwizard2310 Hi Alan, as a man who worked for London Transport, I would say bus restoration and painting is becoming more prohibitive because of time/costs, and lengthy preparation. Factors such as secure storage must also be taken into consideration. As you people in Manchester may know, many experienced old hands are retired, very elderly or have passed away. For myself I did work on Titan buses years ago, and we experienced many problems with them in service. I do wish Mr Boxill-Harris, all the best with his suggestions. However in the end any project like that would cost a great deal of money. I personally believe that it couldn't be justifiable. Just too expensive. Kind regards to one and all who view your films. 👍Jonnie.
@@jonniejam-shovel6405 Hi Jonnie, I do know that the museum volunteer staff include a wide variety of bus related skills including a superb coach painter, all very necessary people...My only claim bus wise is that I passed my PSV with Salford City Transport far too many moons ago in the 1960's. Thank you so much for your kind comments....Best regards, Alan.
Worked for Northern Counties for 27yrs until it’s closure in 2005, very, very sad day. The company would have been 100yrs old in 2019, I need come and have a look at the collection
I have always been interested in coach building as well as bus frame manufacturing...If you do visit, have a look at the re-building of the Crossley Manchester Corporation 436....fascinating.....Thanks for your comments. Regards, Alan.
@@mixwizard2310 Hi Alan, not sure i would be much help when it comes to the body frame because I served my time as an electrician, but I certainly will make an effort to visit in the near future
You would be in your element!!...there's not a wire on that bus anywhere at the moment....not even a control box.....It had been used as a caravan in Derbyshire for years, no engine, no gearbox no electrics....It will be a wonderful sight when she is finished, I hope I can live long enough to see it....Take care - keep well...Alan.
Dear sir-madamm Writing this my kind email to let you know that your videos are very interesting l hope you will be bringing more interesting videos out as this is what history is all about not sitting in School class rooms or college class rooms it's about being around the history o go your city that can help us all learn About the past history of our City's and towns this is what Our local schools should do with our younger generation It would help them to appreciate their cities and towns l would like it very much If your bus museum management would talk to The kingston upon Hull city council about purchasing the old vintage bus which is in our Local museum of transport Here in Hull it's an old Kingston upon Hull AEC bus which has been damaged more then once And l have told the museum staff but they say it's only a bus From the past it doesn't matter What they do to this wonderful Piece of historical importance This vehicle has too hammer dents in the rear of the bus but Chorley it won't take much to panel beat the dents out and get the insurance reinstated And get the road tax reinstated And get it back on the road and Take it too vintage road shows Or even hire it out for wedding transport -ladies days at the races it's in our transport museum here in Hull in high street l would love to see your museum purchase this romantic bus and take great care of it as Hull city council Have admitted dammaging it I truly would love to come and volunteer at your museum in Manchester as l have a strong love for the transport of the past and why shunt l transport of the past matters let's do more to rescue buses and coaches and restore them back To their former glory let's get more volunteers and let's get a big bus or lorry garage where we could work on these lovely buses and coaches in Kingston upon Hull special needs people can still do volunteer work more then the migrants My home address is 22willerby road Kingston upon Hull East riding of Yorkshire HU55JL
Hi Mathew, absolutely true, the cost of materials alone is staggeringly high in these troubled times we now live in, high costs need to be met and that's where the organisers come in, sponsorship, grants, bequests exhibitions, shows and entrance fees all have a part to play in keeping it alive, to be honest I just don't know how this museum survives but it does and it's quite positive in it's thinking....onwards and upwards. Many thanks for your valuable comments...Regards, Alan.
Extended Bodies for Most of the Buses Much as I am not comfortable to ask the depot why they stopped running the London Suburban Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW’s on routes N26, 30, 121, 230, 271, 349, N279 And 158 why can’t we make the same make of the Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW Buses but Modernise the insides of these Buses. Also make it low floor up and down and also extend the middle body part of these vehicles a little bit more so there will be more space for the wheelchair users. By the way, if you could remake and Modernise these vehicles could they also make it into a Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW Version’s that if it will be possible and to Modernise the insides of these Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW’s make it low floor up and down and also extend the middle body part of these vehicles a Little bit more so there will be more space and even a London Suburban Scania N230UD Enviro 400 MMC and also extend the middle body part of these vehicles a little bit more. Why couldn’t we have those London Suburban Buses Pale red on the top roof Pale red again on the top middle Milk Chocolate brown on the middle Creamy white on the Bottom Middle and Milk Chocolate Brown again on the Bottom on most of those kind of those Particular Double Decker Vehicles. Could you put the Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox in the Scania N230UD Enviro 400 MMC and also put the Loud 3-Speed Voith Diwa Gearbox in the Volvo TD102KF Engine East Lancs Olympus and also extend the middle body part of these vehicles a little bit more and also turn most of them to a London Suburban Buses. By the way could you also make the routes N26, 349, 121, N279 and 271 into a London Suburban Buses and have a mixture of a Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Scania N230UD Enviro 400 MMC and Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW Version’s. Could they also transfer the Arriva Bus Depots from Hackney to Stagecoach company so they can replace all the Arriva buses so that all of them can go to Birmingham and Leeds and they can be replaced by Stagecoach Loud 3-Speed Voith Diwa Gearbox Volvo TD102KF Engine East Lancs Olympus and also Extend the Middle body part of these Vehicles and that includes A Mixture of a Stagecoach Loud 3-Speed Voith Diwa Gearbox Volvo TD102KF, Gardner 6LXC and Gardner 6LXCT Engine Northern Counties Palatine One and that Includes a Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Scania N230UD Enviro 400 MMC Vehicles A Little Bit More. Can Arriva London Bus Company’s Replace Most of their Wight Buses so they can also transfer them to Birmingham and Also Manchester so they can be Replaced by Loud 3-Speed ZF Ecomat Gearboxes Volvo D10A Engine East Lancs Olympus and also Extend the Middle body part of these Vehicles A Little Bit More Thank You Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Much. Oh buy the way could the bus Factory Companies also Make More of Those Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel engine Olympian ECW Vehicles And that also includes Those Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Cummins L10 Enviro 400 MMC And also Extend the Middle Body part of those Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW Vehicles and the Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Cummins L10 Enviro 400 MMC Vehicles and that also includes The Loud 3-Speed ZF Ecomat Gearboxes Volvo D10A Engine East Lancs Olympus A Little Bit More And Paint Those 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Cummins L10 Enviro 400 MMC Vehicles and also those Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel engine Olympian ECW Vehicles and that also includes The Northern Counties Palatine One with a Volvo TD102KF, Gardner 6LXC and Gardner 6LXCT Diesel engines with a Loud 3-Speed Voith Diwa Gearboxes and The Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Scania N230UD Enviro 400 MMC Vehicles and also The Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Cummins L10 Enviro 400 MMC Vehicles to the Grey Green Colours Just Like The Other Original Scania Grey Green on the Bus Route 313 and the 103, If all The Leyland Titan B15’s are Fully Red and even Mostly Red, could they also Repaint All of The Leyland Titan B15’s into Grey Green Colours Just Like The Other Original Scania Grey Green on the Bus Route 313 so they can Reuse them for Only Every 5 and a Half Months and also Reuse them on those Rail Replacement London Bus Routes if that will Be Alright for Only Just Every 5 and a Half Months and also Reuse Those Buses Only on the London Bus Routes witch are The 341, N41, 34, 123, N29, 149, 221, N73, 121, 86, 30, 262, 147, 396, N26 so Please make sure that the builders can do as they are told!!!!!!!!!! And Please do something about these Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Important Professional Ideas Please Please Prime Minister and also Includes the Mayor of London.
Proper coachwork performed by craftsmen who wore collar and tie to work......What a world we have today eh!!, no pride no expertise....kiddywinks let loose is my description....many thanks for your comment, Alan.
@@mixwizard2310 It’s buses on the cheap with shoddy workmanship, buses that rattled with drivers who think they are getaway drivers in The Sweeney, buses were so much nicer in the 60’s, today bus drivers need a reality check and retake their tests wear proper uniforms, and makers of buses also need to smarten up their acts and turn out some decent vehicles.
@@jacksugden8190 Bottom line accounting and how cheap can they make them for or in other words what they can get away with....I have travelled on new buses that have literally been shaken to bit's on our abandoned roads unfit for vehicles....What a country we have now eh !!!!
Great - I'll have to visit! Couldn't help but notice how much more comfortable those well padded moquette seats looked compared to modern buses.
Sorry for the delay ....yes...there's a 1968 double decker in the museum with absolutely sumptuous seating just as you described.....todays idiots just seem bent on destroying anything nice like slashing seats and swinging from handrails.....a sad society nowadays.....thanks for your comment.
Thanks for posting. Nice music too.
Sorry for the delay .. Cheers and thanks for your comment....Alan.
Hi Mathew, firstly thank you for watching my video's, I can tell from your reply that you have the same passion for preservation of these old busses that helped generations of people to get about, I love to see the actual construction methods used at that time, unfortunately I am not involved with the Museum so I suggest an email or letter to the managing Director of the Greater Manchester Transport Society Bus Museum, Boyle Street Greater Manchester may serve your purpose better....In the meantime, I will be compiling a video of the reconstruction of Bus Number 436 a Crossley from the 1930's. Many thanks and My very best wishes....Alan.
These busses deserve more that being just sat idle in a museum.. they were all built to last like all old mech tech, you just don't see stuff like this anymore and should be in public to show they still run regardless, not just sat in some warehouse on show not running at all.
Love the content nonetheless my friend!
They do run!!....they hold events organised by the museum throughout the year....free rides. have a look at their web site ...very interesting...Many thanks for your comment...Best regards, Alan.
@@mixwizard2310 Wow, good to hear, I'm from down south and hardly see any of these busses anymore, thanks for your comment back, maybe I'll visit you guys one day 😉
Very well produced video, I enjoyed it immensely. Nostalgia trip for me as I worked for Hants & Dorset and Southdown Motor Services many years ago as a fitter.
Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for your encouraging comment....There's always quite a lot of refurbishment going on in the background - the staff are ever so helpful - ask to see what's ongoing if you should visit again...Best regards.
Hi Guy's my name is Mr C. T. Boxill-Harris I was wondering, why coudn't you find a nice fresh shiny Leyland Titan B15's and Repaint them to a Grey Green Color's just like the original Scania Grey Green's which were in the East London bus route's such as 125, 313 and also the bus route 103, if you guy would like to find about 11 Leyland Titan B15's, please could you Repaint them in the Exact Grey Green Bus Color's for us because it would be a Very Very Very Very Interesting Buses to see them Repainted to a Grey Green Color's and I'am a Big Fan of all of the Leyland Titan B15's
Interesting but I don't have the answer, anyone else know???
@@mixwizard2310 Hi Alan, as a man who worked for London Transport, I would say bus restoration and painting is becoming more prohibitive because of time/costs, and lengthy preparation. Factors such as secure storage must also be taken into consideration.
As you people in Manchester may know, many experienced old hands are retired, very elderly or have passed away.
For myself I did work on Titan buses years ago, and we experienced many problems with them in service.
I do wish Mr Boxill-Harris, all the best with his suggestions. However in the end any project like that would cost a great deal of money. I personally believe that it couldn't be justifiable. Just too expensive.
Kind regards to one and all who view your films. 👍Jonnie.
@@jonniejam-shovel6405 Hi Jonnie, I do know that the museum volunteer staff include a wide variety of bus related skills including a superb coach painter, all very necessary people...My only claim bus wise is that I passed my PSV with Salford City Transport far too many moons ago in the 1960's. Thank you so much for your kind comments....Best regards, Alan.
Worked for Northern Counties for 27yrs until it’s closure in 2005, very, very sad day. The company would have been 100yrs old in 2019, I need come and have a look at the collection
I have always been interested in coach building as well as bus frame manufacturing...If you do visit, have a look at the re-building of the Crossley Manchester Corporation 436....fascinating.....Thanks for your comments. Regards, Alan.
@@mixwizard2310 Hi Alan, not sure i would be much help when it comes to the body frame because I served my time as an electrician, but I certainly will make an effort to visit in the near future
You would be in your element!!...there's not a wire on that bus anywhere at the moment....not even a control box.....It had been used as a caravan in Derbyshire for years, no engine, no gearbox no electrics....It will be a wonderful sight when she is finished, I hope I can live long enough to see it....Take care - keep well...Alan.
My Grandad was the owner of Santus Motor Bodywork building bus bodywork in Wigan, he sold the business to Northern Counties when he retired
@@thefloorkiller Yes, and in fact one of your relations worked for Northern Counties Graham Santus I also know Tom Santus he’s my neighbour
Dear sir-madamm
Writing this my kind email to let you know that your videos are very interesting l hope you will be bringing more interesting videos out as this is what history is all about not sitting in
School class rooms or college class rooms it's about being around the history o go your city that can help us all learn
About the past history of our
City's and towns this is what
Our local schools should do with our younger generation
It would help them to appreciate their cities and towns l would like it very much
If your bus museum management would talk to
The kingston upon Hull city council about purchasing the old vintage bus which is in our
Local museum of transport
Here in Hull it's an old
Kingston upon Hull
AEC bus which has been damaged more then once
And l have told the museum staff but they say it's only a bus
From the past it doesn't matter
What they do to this wonderful
Piece of historical importance
This vehicle has too hammer dents in the rear of the bus but
Chorley it won't take much to panel beat the dents out and get the insurance reinstated
And get the road tax reinstated
And get it back on the road and
Take it too vintage road shows
Or even hire it out for wedding transport -ladies days at the races it's in our transport museum here in Hull in high street l would love to see your museum purchase this romantic bus and take great care of it as Hull city council
Have admitted dammaging it
I truly would love to come and volunteer at your museum in Manchester as l have a strong love for the transport of the past and why shunt l transport of the past matters let's do more to rescue buses and coaches and restore them back
To their former glory let's get more volunteers and let's get a big bus or lorry garage where we could work on these lovely buses and coaches in Kingston upon Hull special needs people can still do volunteer work more then the migrants
My home address is 22willerby road Kingston upon Hull
East riding of Yorkshire
HU55JL
Hi Mathew, absolutely true, the cost of materials alone is staggeringly high in these troubled times we now live in, high costs need to be met and that's where the organisers come in, sponsorship, grants, bequests exhibitions, shows and entrance fees all have a part to play in keeping it alive, to be honest I just don't know how this museum survives but it does and it's quite positive in it's thinking....onwards and upwards. Many thanks for your valuable comments...Regards, Alan.
Extended Bodies for Most of the Buses
Much as I am not comfortable to ask the depot why they stopped running the London Suburban Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW’s on routes N26, 30, 121, 230, 271, 349, N279 And 158 why can’t we make the same make of the Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW Buses but Modernise the insides of these Buses. Also make it low floor up and down and also extend the middle body part of these vehicles a little bit more so there will be more space for the wheelchair users. By the way, if you could remake and Modernise these vehicles could they also make it into a Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW Version’s that if it will be possible and to Modernise the insides of these Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW’s make it low floor up and down and also extend the middle body part of these vehicles a Little bit more so there will be more space and even a London Suburban Scania N230UD Enviro 400 MMC and also extend the middle body part of these vehicles a little bit more. Why couldn’t we have those London Suburban Buses Pale red on the top roof Pale red again on the top middle Milk Chocolate brown on the middle Creamy white on the Bottom Middle and Milk Chocolate Brown again on the Bottom on most of those kind of those Particular Double Decker Vehicles. Could you put the Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox in the Scania N230UD Enviro 400 MMC and also put the Loud 3-Speed Voith Diwa Gearbox in the Volvo TD102KF Engine East Lancs Olympus and also extend the middle body part of these vehicles a little bit more and also turn most of them to a London Suburban Buses. By the way could you also make the routes N26, 349, 121, N279 and 271 into a London Suburban Buses and have a mixture of a Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Scania N230UD Enviro 400 MMC and Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW Version’s. Could they also transfer the Arriva Bus Depots from Hackney to Stagecoach company so they can replace all the Arriva buses so that all of them can go to Birmingham and Leeds and they can be replaced by Stagecoach Loud 3-Speed Voith Diwa Gearbox Volvo TD102KF Engine East Lancs Olympus and also Extend the Middle body part of these Vehicles and that includes A Mixture of a Stagecoach Loud 3-Speed Voith Diwa Gearbox Volvo TD102KF, Gardner 6LXC and Gardner 6LXCT Engine Northern Counties Palatine One and that Includes a Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Scania N230UD Enviro 400 MMC Vehicles A Little Bit More. Can Arriva London Bus Company’s Replace Most of their Wight Buses so they can also transfer them to Birmingham and Also Manchester so they can be Replaced by Loud 3-Speed ZF Ecomat Gearboxes Volvo D10A Engine East Lancs Olympus and also Extend the Middle body part of these Vehicles A Little Bit More Thank You Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Much. Oh buy the way could the bus Factory Companies also Make More of Those Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel engine Olympian ECW Vehicles And that also includes Those Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Cummins L10 Enviro 400 MMC And also Extend the Middle Body part of those Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel Engine Olympian ECW Vehicles and the Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Cummins L10 Enviro 400 MMC Vehicles and that also includes The Loud 3-Speed ZF Ecomat Gearboxes Volvo D10A Engine East Lancs Olympus A Little Bit More And Paint Those 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Cummins L10 Enviro 400 MMC Vehicles and also those Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Gardner 6LX and Gardner 6LXC Diesel engine Olympian ECW Vehicles and that also includes The Northern Counties Palatine One with a Volvo TD102KF, Gardner 6LXC and Gardner 6LXCT Diesel engines with a Loud 3-Speed Voith Diwa Gearboxes and The Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Scania N230UD Enviro 400 MMC Vehicles and also The Loud 4-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Automatic Gearbox Cummins L10 Enviro 400 MMC Vehicles to the Grey Green Colours Just Like The Other Original Scania Grey Green on the Bus Route 313 and the 103, If all The Leyland Titan B15’s are Fully Red and even Mostly Red, could they also Repaint All of The Leyland Titan B15’s into Grey Green Colours Just Like The Other Original Scania Grey Green on the Bus Route 313 so they can Reuse them for Only Every 5 and a Half Months and also Reuse them on those Rail Replacement London Bus Routes if that will Be Alright for Only Just Every 5 and a Half Months and also Reuse Those Buses Only on the London Bus Routes witch are The 341, N41, 34, 123, N29, 149, 221, N73, 121, 86, 30, 262, 147, 396, N26 so Please make sure that the builders can do as they are told!!!!!!!!!! And Please do something about these Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Important Professional Ideas Please Please Prime Minister and also Includes the Mayor of London.
Reminds me of On The Buses.Just waiting to see Blakey wander out.
Austin Greenough.
You'll be waiting a long time.
RIP Stephen Lewis-Blakey.
@@simonwinter8839 and Reg Barney and..... Bob.
@@suzyqualcast6269 Indeed, but Austin wasn't waiting for them !!
Route master now that was a proper bus not like the horrible boxes on wheels we have in London today,
Totally agree...Cheers, Alan.
Excellent museum.
Thanks Nigel, always worth a visit as there is always something new to view or work in progress. Cheers.
Made to a much higher standard then as compared to the modern box on four wheels - buses of today.
Proper coachwork performed by craftsmen who wore collar and tie to work......What a world we have today eh!!, no pride no expertise....kiddywinks let loose is my description....many thanks for your comment, Alan.
@@mixwizard2310 It’s buses on the cheap with shoddy workmanship, buses that rattled with drivers who think they are getaway drivers in The Sweeney, buses were so much nicer in the 60’s, today bus drivers need a reality check and retake their tests wear proper uniforms, and makers of buses also need to smarten up their acts and turn out some decent vehicles.
@@jacksugden8190 Bottom line accounting and how cheap can they make them for or in other words what they can get away with....I have travelled on new buses that have literally been shaken to bit's on our abandoned roads unfit for vehicles....What a country we have now eh !!!!
@@mixwizard2310 You had hit the nail on the head