You act like this is replicable on a non streamer server lol. you people find this level of drops day 1 before hitting yellow maps with no mf. nothing but omg i can't believe this dropped lololololololol or like non streamer server players don't get 1 shot or do 0 damage with these mechanics.
@@Limitless_Doom lol with that kinda mindset no wonder you die and don't get better cuz you always blame something or someone else instead of looking at yourself and thinking, what am I doing wrong, how should I better my build so I can reach greater heights?
I had to post this, even if I usually never do. Coincidence or not I just had my first mirror drop in forever. And I have been playing this since 2016. THanks for the guide !
thank you, i was doing a similar strat but this boosted me into the stratosphere. dropped my first mirror after 3 days of farming with the strat and 8570h total played. love ya
It was kind of you to throw together a video since you can't play today. The lag was absolutely horrendous on the DC servers today. I was ping ponging up to 2000 and down again from about A8 to A10 tonight (decided to level a Penance Brand character). I died 3 times in SC so you made the right call playing it safe today. Thanks Goratha!
i dont understand why im not ever seeing scarab explosions just random rusted ones. ive had 1 scarab explosion in about 100 maps. even with 55 quant and 225 rarity on my gear and flasks and doing all the scarabs and sextants. and the right atlas tree. even get 6-9k wisps on my maps. and im doing the spire thing correctly they just dont really drop much good stuff. mostly lots of chaos orbs alc orbs alt orbs and such with a random exalteds and div orb here and there. very confused on why im really not seeing the results.
This farming method is one of the best i have ever seen, In the same map, I dropped a mirror and a headhunter it was insane and unbelievable, I got my first headhunter and mirror thanks to this method
How do you sustain running lower tier maps with all your voidstones socketed? I see many people running these lower tiers because of how hard the league mechanic is, but I don't quite understand how they wouldn't run out of maps. Also, I'm looking to try and put together this build, what would you say are most important pieces of the build for it to function?
@@RocketFoxProductionsyou use the sextants on the voidstones. After you got your desired mods from the sextants you are free to remove the voidstones, the mods from the sextants will still apply. That’s how he’s able to keep sustaining low tier maps
Hey goratha, in your POB can we chance the mirage archer for something else? The mirage archer for this spire strstegy gets in the way a little. Thanks
It is kinda offtopic,but im so happy to see your textures are flicker when there is too much thing going on the screen,i was started to worry that my GPU is about to give in,but it seems like an engine limitation. Also,neat guide,too bad im late to the party,haha.
Why is the lootfilter not showing vaal orbs? Imported your filter to filterblade but it wouldnt let me add Vaal Orbs as they are not even on the list to add through search function???
they thank you. doing it like what u did and today i just got my first x6 divine and brother gift. and the build is kinda survive able even with 6k wisp. though i need to make my dmg bigger a little bit,. right now im using HH idk if that good or not
Incredibly interesting, but missing some extremely critical information: Are we supposed to try and avoid killing the spires up until a certain point? I'm noticing there are times where my spires will indicate via the minimap that they're spawning tons of monsters, but it's NEVER once been remotely near what I'm seeing from yours. (This is with me using +proj on map, +% rare monsters on map, identical atlas tree, gilded scarabs, sextants etc..) And other times where it seems a spire isn't spawning at all? I am running 112 quantity, and even more rarity, + distillate + gold flask - I'm about 30+ maps deep with this strategy and have no gotten 1 'loot explosion', am I unlucky or missing something?
@@GorathaAh, that’s what I suspected. I’m doing this as LA, so it seems I need to walk away until it’s decently off screen to avoid killing it. It was feeling like I was killing it after it spawned mobs and the mobs were just disappearing, but it could be because they’re dying so fast since it’s a t7.
I have been farming this for about a day and a half and I feel like I'm just getting the same bubble gum currency and loot? Following this to the T and although there is absolutely a fuck ton more of loot it is always the same low tier garbage . I have had a couple of maps pop off with scarabs and a few divs here and there but am I doing something wrong ? Strat is great just don't see the "good" loot
I don't know man...either im unlucky or strat doesnt work as it should. I've ran like 8 maps ( 1000+ chaos orbs in order to prepare them) so roughly 110-120c per map...i barely earned 500c, so im near 500c minus...and a shhhhhhhhit ton of time wasted.
Hey thanks for the video absolutely love the build so far. One this i struggle with tho is damage. When mobs are double/triple empowered it can take minutes just to kill a rare, do you have any tips about that? (My bow is 1k edps with chance to poison)
@@allways28 @mapredible9165 @masteurconan I know it may sound obvious but check if you have Caustic Arrow OF POISON, the new transfigured gem, I didnt have it and wondered why I deal no damage lmao
Hi guys/goratha, so i am going to attempt my first ever MF build (what you have basically). Wanted to ask, if you can give advice on levelling the build and should this build be able to do all content or is it specifically for MF?
maybe if possible a question about the build you use: all together resistances are way more than needed. even if I dont use purity of elements it is more than enough. Can anybode tell me if and why it makes sense to use purity of elements anyways? Ok nice mode at the watchers eye, but is this worth the 35% mana reservation? could I use Herald of Agony instead for example!?
a question i have about the spires is how do you know when youre good to start attacking the rares/spire? is it as soon as the abysses it shoots appear on the minimap? or should i run away and let more mobs spawn from them before attacking? thanks for the video btw, having a ton of fun with your build and this strat
You'll want to hit it to 50% ideally, and then run away and let it spawn mobs. It has different thresholds for spawning them, and if you kill it too fast it won't spawn them.
Thanks so much for the guide! Is there a trick to dealing with the abyss rare monsters with blade hands that are invulnerable until they take a swing? They are ruining my runs and hard to dodge with the lag...@@Goratha
This happens if you get too many mechanics on the map If you try to get Legion , Breach, Alva etc You can't get multiples Abyss It's how the game is design
Question: Why use Purity of fire and not purity of lightning to counter the lightning coil? or even purity of elements for elemental ailment immunity? (if that fits, 50% instead of 35%)
Thanks so much for that Guide. I dont get the +1 Projectile from the Atlas? Ofc +2 From maps but what does he mean with more projectiles from Atlas? @ 2:50
I have a few questions. How do you generate rage for the berserk gem? In the woods ascendency why do you take the gear with no gem nodes? Also the Mark passive of the same tree, does it have a use? should we just go barkskin?
I must be doing something wrong, I've followed everything here but when I run maps with scarabs it is almost always a loss especially if I roll the maps for add proj., 7-12 chaos drop per map, a TON of uniques, 6-12 six sockets, and random bubble gum currency. I'm generally getting between 3-8K wisps and even when I get over 2K of each color its the same. I have around 40Q and 200R. What am I doing wrong?
me too man. ive got good mf gear with 55 quant and over 225 rarity using all the scarabs and sextants even getting like 2.5k wisps each and sometimes more and just not really seeing the resuslts outside of one hinekoras lock.which is a really good find its just really it outside of the occasional single divine and exalt every 5-8 maps or so id so which doesnt really add up to profit.
Same here. I've burned through all currency accumulated on another build and still nothing, lol. Proper atlas setup, scarabs 59%IIQ, 208% IIR. 2,5k-5k wisps each time. Would probably have a mirror now if I just run Sanctm instead of wasting currency for this strat.
Amazing video, build and strat. Can you please tell us what filter we can use, or is there one that we can follow somewhere? Thanks, making adjustments from ballista variant today...
can you share your filter for valuable map uniques only? filtering all the non valuable uniques in maps seems like torture (regular filters show boss uniques bases but those would show here and never be valuable)
So far I am getting big loot explosions, just no good currency conversions at all (also no scarabs aso), sometimes I get 1k+ alterations stacks but not a single divine in full juiced maps....it feels awfull like that sadly when you have full screens of loot but nothing of value at all in 20 maps (120% quant maps 80+ rarity and 50+ packsize on top of my 60-80 quant and 120-150 rarity). Most of the time I am not getting purple+yellow juice at all when running in the league mechanic.
so i think it all depends on the jungle juice, in 10 maps i got maybe 1 div and nothing significant and i was about to give up, then i went into one more map and i managed to get 2k+ yellow and 2k+ blue juice and some purple(less than 500), and that map i dropped 3 div raw, 1 voidborn key, immutable force(1.8div), my map had 41% pack size - 158 quant- 95 rarity(with atlas passives) and i added beyond from map device. honestly i care alot about consistency and if a strategy isn't rewarding me for 5-6 maps straight i get bored fast(maybe that's my mistake but anyway)
I ran 20 Maps exactly Like this and lost Money doing it. It seems its highly RNG based, i never got a divine conversion or any t1/t0 uniques.. Only thousands anf thousands of Trash uniques and bubblegum currency, around 3000 Alteration for example from conversions. I now have to sell all the cemetery Maps i dropped to get my currency back
yeah im struggling a bit with it too. ive made like 1000 alterations but only 2 raw div after 3 hours. 2 fortunate cards lol. i came back to comments looking to see if it has been nerfed or something.
@@Tuga12 i can never find more then 4k whisps,i reesrched and watched crouchingtunas Tutorial on how to max whisps. I do exactly as He showed and still cant get over 4k max
With wandering path active, does unending nightmare, speaker of the dead, and endless tide even do anything? Aren't they notables? Or is there some exceptions? Sorry I guess I don't 100% understand how that works.
I thought mageblood could only drop from lvl 80+ Why cemetery? Do you have to be careful not to kill the spire or is it guaranteed to spawn a certain amount of rares? Is the spire impeded by terrain? Is it important to run open layouts to ensure that the spire spawns as many rarest as possible or will the spire be smart and spawn rarest where it can for example in tight quarters like carcass
the spire shoots projectiles in every direction. if it cant shoot them in a certain direction, it wont. so yes open layouts are important. and yes you have to be careful to not 1shot the spire. it stops spawning rares after 20-30 seconds. cemetery has brothers stash and gift cards and is just a good layout. mageblood can drop from level 75+ content. magic packs and rares always drop loot as atleast +1 level. so a magic pack drops 75+ loot and rare mobs drop 76 loot in a t7 map. so yes a mageblood can drop in a t7 map as seen in the clip. just not from white mobs. there are what so ever a few uniques that require level 78 to be dropped.
not sure what i am doing wrong, 9 maps in and not seen anything above a chaos orb or lucky unique rolls like 4 ventor rings (all bad rolls) i think i am barely breaking even or potentially losing money
same map, same gear (maybe -10 rarity over all), same pots, same scarabs, not killing the spire and letting them spawn, chugging divine pot while killing, ilvl76 cemetery, rolling for recommended sextants wildwood trying to get as many purple/yellow as possible i'm not seeing any conversion really, maybe like 60 alteration orbs if I'm lucky
Is this strat doable if I don't have the money to buy many gilded abyss scarabs (let's say I have 1 div so I can buy, maybe, 7 or 8)? And having only two watchstones? Or at least can I get started on this strat somehow?
So... i just spend 50c on a couple gilded sextants, specced into abyss, T7 map ... and i'm getting abyssal troves ... what gives? I thought you said spires only if its a gilded.
Fantastic strategy !!! I would just like to add a few things from my own experience ) I first wanted to buy the sextants and was quite irritated because of no /lack of response .So I bought 128 sextants for 2 div and started rolling ( the usual sextant rolling method ) and I was surprised to see the result. I kept beyond and abyss for me and sold anything that cost more than 7 c . I actually made 1 div profit and everything got sold within ,say, 15 minutes at the most . Thought I was perhaps lucky,so did the same thing again . And the profit was even more this time. I got 8 abyss and 7 beyond sextants from these 2 runs ,I also kept 25% magic monster pack size ( 13 ) and the rest what I sold ( master missions except niko ,conq maps,harvest,strongbox,legion,harbingers) gave me net 2.5 div profit. Awesome ,thought someone could benefit from this hence sharing with your audience .
hey, goratha, im trying to run beyond on map device, due to the cost of Beyond sextant. but I lose the abyss on map, is it fine? another thing playing tornado shot kinda sucks cause we destroy the spire almost instant. Ur build is actually good for it. if we leave spire and come back is fine? or we need to kill mobs for them to spawn?
the beyond is fine on map device, you do lose an abyss but its okay probably - also yeah you need to let the spire die slowly if possible (it is hard for me even if they dont get juiced)
@@Goratha yeah, I've been actually using windripper to get lower dps and take advantage of some iir/iiq. Abyss gilded going crazy right now in softcore. Your build is reaching the softcore league to. For me since I don't have HH to farm all this t16 the mechanic is nuts and giving alot of profit. Thanks man!
hey so if i dont use the scarab what nodes to i take ? for the sure two 10%inc chance for spire ones, but what about the 10%chance to get a abyssal depths ? that "logic" that spawns a spire insdead of a depths should work too right ? so i take both ?
@@Tuga12 is my english that bad ? the map is too low to spawn a abyssal deep thing so it will spawn a spire insdead or no ? some nodes even say "chance to lead to spire if didnt lead to abyssal deep" so my question is: does it work the same with this nodes as it works with the scarab and is it worth to take the 20%inc chance for abysss deep too?
It's just something that can happen sometimes with some rares. It's very uncommon though so getting as many rare monsters as possible ups the odds a lot.
4 because thats how many sextant uses you get. there really isnt any gamble to running those maps. you arent hoping for a big card drop or certain uniques or anything.
Just have to be really careful and aware of when it's about to spawn, generally I can hit it once it has juice and it'll spawn the waves. I tend to run off screen as well so MA doesn't kill it.
I know it's not the point of the video but i'm really confused about your build, how does having a tribrid bow help you for CA? Don't most just use widowhail and a big quiver for most of their scaling damage? I ran something similar with widowhail and a better quiver than yours and was spreadsheeting 400k? I'm probably missing something but just curious if anyone can clear that up for me Other than that, great video. :)
I've just realised what I *think* is the answer, thought i'd leave it here incase anyone else was struggling with the same question. I didn't realise you had the tincture that allows all damage to poison which makes perfect sense for having ele stacked bow for this build then.
Hi . Im newbie i have a question . How u can keep divination distilate uptime ? I follow your build and when i hit monster with leech hp/mana.This one keep stop duration cannot uptime 100% like u
A question. In pob, in the calculations section on the physical damage received, with the headhunter I get the conversion of the taste flask, but with the micro distell belt it does not. I wanted to see how much the 30% increase is with the belt. How odd. Do you know what it is due to?
Not sure about your specific issue but you can go into config in PoB and add custom modifiers. Example: "30% increased ..." just make sure it is worded the same way it WOULD be worded on the gear
Thanks, I know what happened to me. She didn't put the bottle in its place. Fifth place in POB is the lowest and I didn't know it, although it was pretty obvious. Kroximatuz solved it for me@@lenelie3051
Guess I'm a lot less lucky than others in this comment section. I've run about 20 T7 cemeteries, all with +2 proj - cost me all the alch and scours I had :p. Was wearing one near-perfect Ventor's and had div flask on permanently. I never got the holy trinity of wisps, at most 2-3k of 2 different colors. (it feels very bad when you're not rich, invest this much only to run around into dead wispless ends btw) Had about 4-5 raw divine drops. I had 0 valuable cards drop, unless Goratha's loot filter filters those out which I don't think it does (I eyeballed it quickly in FilterBlade). You constantly have to be careful not to die from the invulnerable spire monsters moving at mach 10 and you have to make sure not to kill the spire. It doesn't seem to make much of a difference for me, whether I kill those extra 5-6 rares that spawn. To be fair, this tactic does kind of make the mapping more involved and fun in some ways. Your experience may vary here, I had 0 difficulty in killing juiced up mobs, but that's at the cost of having to be scared of phys damage. I would put the starting budget at about 30-40 div with the current scarab and sextant pricing, because if you have RNG/wisps like me, you'll run out of money loooong before you see any returns on investment. I'm assuming you're aiming for div/winged scarab explosions and HH/MB drops to get returns, which I obviously haven't seen in any substantial way. tbh I'm very close to giving up on the league right now, because it gets tedious to have to farm back all that invested currency in other ways, to try and have another go at this. Was fun to try and join the MF train though. Thanks for the strat Goratha & Tuna and I wish anyone who read this far all the MB drops in the world.
you mention projectiles , do you NEED a bow to do this ? or can i run this method on my flicker strike aswell? do i NEEED to be able to shoot projectiles ???
@@aidenobyrne79 you are buffing the spires with this leagues current mechanic, which gives it extra projectiles, so you won't get as much loot as this. :)
Note, this is (I think) the first league in which spending real money can impact gameplay. It is a bit convoluted and probably not worth it but: Private leagues can be created with "mobs have +2 proj", this would actually impact of much stuff you drop. Would it be worth it? Probably not given that you're playing groupfound at most, however it's crazy to think that it's possible.
Somehow divination distillate can’t recover fast enough for me. I have to switch to a normal divine health flask to recover the life. Anything might be wrong? I have both the flask mastery (4% recovery) and master surgeon.
So I gotta sacrifice a vectors gamble ring will it damage my drops badly if I were to drop one? Cause my build gets bricked if I don’t though idk if i should just try crafting a ring with mama regen/life per sec and increase in rarity/quantity
Make sure you take out three stones from your atlas AFTER they proc the desired sextants. This will allow you to drop t7 maps and sustain easily.
Whats your custom loot filter pls
I am glad you said this, I was just about to ask. So every map you need to socket and unsocket your voidstones?
You act like this is replicable on a non streamer server lol. you people find this level of drops day 1 before hitting yellow maps with no mf. nothing but omg i can't believe this dropped lololololololol
or like non streamer server players don't get 1 shot or do 0 damage with these mechanics.
@@Limitless_Doom wdym its t7 map, u need to be autistic to not be able to do it
@@Limitless_Doom lol with that kinda mindset no wonder you die and don't get better cuz you always blame something or someone else instead of looking at yourself and thinking, what am I doing wrong, how should I better my build so I can reach greater heights?
I had to post this, even if I usually never do. Coincidence or not I just had my first mirror drop in forever. And I have been playing this since 2016. THanks for the guide !
Tried it out. It is insane. Thanks. Playing poe 5 years . This is awesome
Because its not intentional xD
thank you, i was doing a similar strat but this boosted me into the stratosphere. dropped my first mirror after 3 days of farming with the strat and 8570h total played. love ya
It was kind of you to throw together a video since you can't play today. The lag was absolutely horrendous on the DC servers today. I was ping ponging up to 2000 and down again from about A8 to A10 tonight (decided to level a Penance Brand character). I died 3 times in SC so you made the right call playing it safe today. Thanks Goratha!
i dont understand why im not ever seeing scarab explosions just random rusted ones. ive had 1 scarab explosion in about 100 maps. even with 55 quant and 225 rarity on my gear and flasks and doing all the scarabs and sextants. and the right atlas tree. even get 6-9k wisps on my maps. and im doing the spire thing correctly they just dont really drop much good stuff. mostly lots of chaos orbs alc orbs alt orbs and such with a random exalteds and div orb here and there. very confused on why im really not seeing the results.
same here ... getting nothing of importance :( ... maybe something has been nerfed/changed ?
Thanks Goratha! I just had a 71 divine loot explosion after following this guide!
Its so insane. I thought it wasnt possible but i bricked a t7 map.
I died feom time to time but now i got progenesis..
This farming method is one of the best i have ever seen, In the same map, I dropped a mirror and a headhunter it was insane and unbelievable, I got my first headhunter and mirror thanks to this method
i am curious what pantheons do you take?
How do you sustain running lower tier maps with all your voidstones socketed? I see many people running these lower tiers because of how hard the league mechanic is, but I don't quite understand how they wouldn't run out of maps.
Also, I'm looking to try and put together this build, what would you say are most important pieces of the build for it to function?
same question
Ahhhh I knew I missed an important detail. You take the stones out after they proc the sextants - so you're able to sustain maps.
5head @@Goratha
@@Goratha newer player here, what do you mean by 'proc'?
@@RocketFoxProductionsyou use the sextants on the voidstones. After you got your desired mods from the sextants you are free to remove the voidstones, the mods from the sextants will still apply. That’s how he’s able to keep sustaining low tier maps
Thanks for this vid !
Kudos from Brazil =)
Do you have the filter you used in this video availble? the ones I see on your profile do not look like the same filter from the video.
Thank you Goratha. I drop mb today while doing your farming strategy. Thanks for sharing
Hey goratha, in your POB can we chance the mirage archer for something else? The mirage archer for this spire strstegy gets in the way a little. Thanks
It is kinda offtopic,but im so happy to see your textures are flicker when there is too much thing going on the screen,i was started to worry that my GPU is about to give in,but it seems like an engine limitation.
Also,neat guide,too bad im late to the party,haha.
Why is the lootfilter not showing vaal orbs? Imported your filter to filterblade but it wouldnt let me add Vaal Orbs as they are not even on the list to add through search function???
they thank you. doing it like what u did and today i just got my first x6 divine and brother gift.
and the build is kinda survive able even with 6k wisp.
though i need to make my dmg bigger a little bit,. right now im using HH idk if that good or not
Incredibly interesting, but missing some extremely critical information:
Are we supposed to try and avoid killing the spires up until a certain point? I'm noticing there are times where my spires will indicate via the minimap that they're spawning tons of monsters, but it's NEVER once been remotely near what I'm seeing from yours. (This is with me using +proj on map, +% rare monsters on map, identical atlas tree, gilded scarabs, sextants etc..) And other times where it seems a spire isn't spawning at all?
I am running 112 quantity, and even more rarity, + distillate + gold flask - I'm about 30+ maps deep with this strategy and have no gotten 1 'loot explosion', am I unlucky or missing something?
Basically it spawns mobs in waves, if you kill it too fast it won't spawn all the mobs. There seems to be HP thresholds where it will spawn more.
@@GorathaAh, that’s what I suspected. I’m doing this as LA, so it seems I need to walk away until it’s decently off screen to avoid killing it. It was feeling like I was killing it after it spawned mobs and the mobs were just disappearing, but it could be because they’re dying so fast since it’s a t7.
great Video just like to know if you have a link on how to level your character to that point
7:56 you would save 2 points if you will go from the cryptic gateway to beyonds, not from the left side, actually.
I have been farming this for about a day and a half and I feel like I'm just getting the same bubble gum currency and loot? Following this to the T and although there is absolutely a fuck ton more of loot it is always the same low tier garbage . I have had a couple of maps pop off with scarabs and a few divs here and there but am I doing something wrong ? Strat is great just don't see the "good" loot
I don't know man...either im unlucky or strat doesnt work as it should. I've ran like 8 maps ( 1000+ chaos orbs in order to prepare them) so roughly 110-120c per map...i barely earned 500c, so im near 500c minus...and a shhhhhhhhit ton of time wasted.
I got HH in just one day following this strategy. Highly recommended!
Hey thanks for the video absolutely love the build so far. One this i struggle with tho is damage. When mobs are double/triple empowered it can take minutes just to kill a rare, do you have any tips about that? (My bow is 1k edps with chance to poison)
same haha and i just cant figure out what iam missing
same D:
@@allways28 @mapredible9165 @masteurconan I know it may sound obvious but check if you have Caustic Arrow OF POISON, the new transfigured gem, I didnt have it and wondered why I deal no damage lmao
@@pedator9514 thanks dude I already had my eye on that gem for my next upgrade. ill make it prio
@@pedator9514 Yes i do, Caustic arrow of poison 21 20
I'm sorry, but why would you run in your atlas tree deli chance if you use sextant OR deli orb? Am I missing some secret mechanic?
I dropped the nodes, because yeah, but if you can't afford to deli orb or sextant every map they are good.
Are there any modifications you would do to this strategy for a character without magic find?
I’m running this with zero mf and it still just dumps currency. Not near this juiced level, but it works just fine without.
I am so noob i didnt get most of the strategy. So it's basically getting the most rare monsters on our maps right?
what i do wrong ? 25 map and no divine...no 1 :( scarabs, sextants, 50q 280r, about 5k wisps ... its just bad luck ?
Hi guys/goratha, so i am going to attempt my first ever MF build (what you have basically). Wanted to ask, if you can give advice on levelling the build and should this build be able to do all content or is it specifically for MF?
maybe if possible a question about the build you use: all together resistances are way more than needed. even if I dont use purity of elements it is more than enough. Can anybode tell me if and why it makes sense to use purity of elements anyways? Ok nice mode at the watchers eye, but is this worth the 35% mana reservation? could I use Herald of Agony instead for example!?
No ailments can be afflicted on u.
Which of the filters do you run normally on cemetery or do you change mid map?
a question i have about the spires is how do you know when youre good to start attacking the rares/spire? is it as soon as the abysses it shoots appear on the minimap? or should i run away and let more mobs spawn from them before attacking? thanks for the video btw, having a ton of fun with your build and this strat
You'll want to hit it to 50% ideally, and then run away and let it spawn mobs.
It has different thresholds for spawning them, and if you kill it too fast it won't spawn them.
@@Goratha gotcha, thanks for the answer dude
Thanks so much for the guide! Is there a trick to dealing with the abyss rare monsters with blade hands that are invulnerable until they take a swing? They are ruining my runs and hard to dodge with the lag...@@Goratha
Thanks for the video! Extremely helpful! What are the ideal major and minor for the Pantheon with this build?
I use Solaris and Shakari on poison maps / ralakesh otherwise
@Goratha - Have you encountered maps where you should be getting at least 2 or 3 abyss through scarabs, map device, and sextant, but only get 1 abyss?
same here
Same here
This happens if you get too many mechanics on the map
If you try to get Legion , Breach, Alva etc
You can't get multiples Abyss
It's how the game is design
Which is better on CJ between Calamitous and Tempered Arrowheads? Ty
Cant figure out how to not one shot the spire with fulcrum chieftain
Question: Why use Purity of fire and not purity of lightning to counter the lightning coil?
or even purity of elements for elemental ailment immunity? (if that fits, 50% instead of 35%)
It doesn't fit
And the first one I think it because his watcher's eye
Thanks so much for that Guide. I dont get the +1 Projectile from the Atlas? Ofc +2 From maps but what does he mean with more projectiles from Atlas? @ 2:50
u skilled a lot of map modifier effect which gives u 4% increased effect of modifiers on map each
10 maps into this strategy….holy crap! Glad I stocked up on sextants, thanks m8!
I have a few questions. How do you generate rage for the berserk gem? In the woods ascendency why do you take the gear with no gem nodes? Also the Mark passive of the same tree, does it have a use? should we just go barkskin?
Rage tincture, I'm currently using a rarity one... but you can actually get both mods on the same one.
Thanks I was using a poison mf tincture ill swap!@@Goratha
Is this buyable strat in standard non-affliction league as well?
I must be doing something wrong, I've followed everything here but when I run maps with scarabs it is almost always a loss especially if I roll the maps for add proj., 7-12 chaos drop per map, a TON of uniques, 6-12 six sockets, and random bubble gum currency. I'm generally getting between 3-8K wisps and even when I get over 2K of each color its the same. I have around 40Q and 200R. What am I doing wrong?
Probably just sample size, but your rarity/quantity could be a bit higher too.
me too man. ive got good mf gear with 55 quant and over 225 rarity using all the scarabs and sextants even getting like 2.5k wisps each and sometimes more and just not really seeing the resuslts outside of one hinekoras lock.which is a really good find its just really it outside of the occasional single divine and exalt every 5-8 maps or so id so which doesnt really add up to profit.
Same here. I've burned through all currency accumulated on another build and still nothing, lol. Proper atlas setup, scarabs 59%IIQ, 208% IIR. 2,5k-5k wisps each time. Would probably have a mirror now if I just run Sanctm instead of wasting currency for this strat.
Amazing video, build and strat. Can you please tell us what filter we can use, or is there one that we can follow somewhere? Thanks, making adjustments from ballista variant today...
Just go to filter blade
can you share your filter for valuable map uniques only? filtering all the non valuable uniques in maps seems like torture (regular filters show boss uniques bases but those would show here and never be valuable)
just a quick question can we run any t7 map or should it be cemetry?
So far I am getting big loot explosions, just no good currency conversions at all (also no scarabs aso), sometimes I get 1k+ alterations stacks but not a single divine in full juiced maps....it feels awfull like that sadly when you have full screens of loot but nothing of value at all in 20 maps (120% quant maps 80+ rarity and 50+ packsize on top of my 60-80 quant and 120-150 rarity).
Most of the time I am not getting purple+yellow juice at all when running in the league mechanic.
same here, but i do focus on getting good juice, still no valuable drops at all :(
so i think it all depends on the jungle juice, in 10 maps i got maybe 1 div and nothing significant and i was about to give up, then i went into one more map and i managed to get 2k+ yellow and 2k+ blue juice and some purple(less than 500), and that map i dropped 3 div raw, 1 voidborn key, immutable force(1.8div), my map had 41% pack size - 158 quant- 95 rarity(with atlas passives) and i added beyond from map device.
honestly i care alot about consistency and if a strategy isn't rewarding me for 5-6 maps straight i get bored fast(maybe that's my mistake but anyway)
thanks for the video, looks like so much fun. almost ready to start this strat at ssf) few crafts and leveling left)
how did you gather scarabs ?
@@burakahmettr8193 you can reroll scarabs through harvest
I ran 20 Maps exactly Like this and lost Money doing it.
It seems its highly RNG based, i never got a divine conversion or any t1/t0 uniques..
Only thousands anf thousands of Trash uniques and bubblegum currency, around 3000 Alteration for example from conversions.
I now have to sell all the cemetery Maps i dropped to get my currency back
You're doing something wrong 100%
yeah im struggling a bit with it too. ive made like 1000 alterations but only 2 raw div after 3 hours. 2 fortunate cards lol. i came back to comments looking to see if it has been nerfed or something.
@@Tuga12 your advice was very good. the wisps are the key. 2-3k is not enough.
@@Tuga12 i can never find more then 4k whisps,i reesrched and watched crouchingtunas Tutorial on how to max whisps.
I do exactly as He showed and still cant get over 4k max
Do you still recommend beyond sextant at 200c a sextant? Rather then Kira’s craft it and miss out on 1 abyss?
Do u have a filter and a budget build for this or only possible on high investment?
5:47 bro dropped a resonance cascade
With wandering path active, does unending nightmare, speaker of the dead, and endless tide even do anything? Aren't they notables? Or is there some exceptions? Sorry I guess I don't 100% understand how that works.
Keystones /=/ Notables
Keystones still work, notables don't
I thought mageblood could only drop from lvl 80+
Why cemetery?
Do you have to be careful not to kill the spire or is it guaranteed to spawn a certain amount of rares?
Is the spire impeded by terrain? Is it important to run open layouts to ensure that the spire spawns as many rarest as possible or will the spire be smart and spawn rarest where it can for example in tight quarters like carcass
the spire shoots projectiles in every direction. if it cant shoot them in a certain direction, it wont.
so yes open layouts are important.
and yes you have to be careful to not 1shot the spire. it stops spawning rares after 20-30 seconds.
cemetery has brothers stash and gift cards and is just a good layout.
mageblood can drop from level 75+ content. magic packs and rares always drop loot as atleast +1 level. so a magic pack drops 75+ loot and rare mobs drop 76 loot in a t7 map. so yes a mageblood can drop in a t7 map as seen in the clip. just not from white mobs.
there are what so ever a few uniques that require level 78 to be dropped.
Damn you're a legend bro thanks @@snaxximan5737
@@snaxximan5737 You just answered like 8 questions i had! Thank you!
thanks man i got my first mirror ever this league thanks to that strat
this look sick! thanks for sharing
Do you use the caustic arrow from ur chest and from ur bow? or u use 1 for single target and 1 for multi?
For maximum single target, two CA's is best. One in the manaforged, and one self cast.
not sure what i am doing wrong, 9 maps in and not seen anything above a chaos orb or lucky unique rolls like 4 ventor rings (all bad rolls)
i think i am barely breaking even or potentially losing money
same map, same gear (maybe -10 rarity over all), same pots, same scarabs, not killing the spire and letting them spawn, chugging divine pot while killing, ilvl76 cemetery, rolling for recommended sextants
wildwood trying to get as many purple/yellow as possible
i'm not seeing any conversion really, maybe like 60 alteration orbs if I'm lucky
Is this strat doable if I don't have the money to buy many gilded abyss scarabs (let's say I have 1 div so I can buy, maybe, 7 or 8)? And having only two watchstones? Or at least can I get started on this strat somehow?
So... i just spend 50c on a couple gilded sextants, specced into abyss, T7 map ... and i'm getting abyssal troves ... what gives? I thought you said spires only if its a gilded.
Yep, I've never got a trove with gilded scarab, you must be using rusted or polished.
How do you apply withered on enemies in this build?
PF ascendancy
What large cluster jewel can I substitute for the current? It's like 12 div
Fantastic strategy !!! I would just like to add a few things from my own experience ) I first wanted to buy the sextants and was quite irritated because of no /lack of response .So I bought 128 sextants for 2 div and started rolling ( the usual sextant rolling method ) and I was surprised to see the result. I kept beyond and abyss for me and sold anything that cost more than 7 c . I actually made 1 div profit and everything got sold within ,say, 15 minutes at the most . Thought I was perhaps lucky,so did the same thing again . And the profit was even more this time. I got 8 abyss and 7 beyond sextants from these 2 runs ,I also kept 25% magic monster pack size ( 13 ) and the rest what I sold ( master missions except niko ,conq maps,harvest,strongbox,legion,harbingers) gave me net 2.5 div profit. Awesome ,thought someone could benefit from this hence sharing with your audience .
sextant rolling has always been profitable but its very boring and tedius to sell all the sextants.
so you are getting paid for being inconvenienced.
Just buy sextants (compasses) on TFT. Super easy and can buy in massive bulk if you want
hey, goratha, im trying to run beyond on map device, due to the cost of Beyond sextant. but I lose the abyss on map, is it fine? another thing playing tornado shot kinda sucks cause we destroy the spire almost instant. Ur build is actually good for it. if we leave spire and come back is fine? or we need to kill mobs for them to spawn?
the beyond is fine on map device, you do lose an abyss but its okay probably - also yeah you need to let the spire die slowly if possible (it is hard for me even if they dont get juiced)
@@Goratha yeah, I've been actually using windripper to get lower dps and take advantage of some iir/iiq. Abyss gilded going crazy right now in softcore. Your build is reaching the softcore league to. For me since I don't have HH to farm all this t16 the mechanic is nuts and giving alot of profit. Thanks man!
How many adds spawns cycles does the spyre have? 3?@@Goratha
how do yo open delirium woth the node? do you buy orbs ? or is a chance only ?
Hello, may I know your graphics settings for thí. I often have fps drop when doing this strat, my computer uses 3060.
hey so if i dont use the scarab what nodes to i take ? for the sure two 10%inc chance for spire ones, but what about the 10%chance to get a abyssal depths ?
that "logic" that spawns a spire insdead of a depths should work too right ? so i take both ?
@@Tuga12 i know but that dosnt answer my question : D
@@Tuga12 is my english that bad ? the map is too low to spawn a abyssal deep thing so it will spawn a spire insdead or no ? some nodes even say "chance to lead to spire if didnt lead to abyssal deep" so my question is: does it work the same with this nodes as it works with the scarab and is it worth to take the 20%inc chance for abysss deep too?
so were guaaranted a sire every abyss? I'm not getting a syre every abyss at all and when I do my mirage archer just one shot it?
4:18 what's the conversion mechanic? why would uniques sometimes be converted into currency?
It's just something that can happen sometimes with some rares. It's very uncommon though so getting as many rare monsters as possible ups the odds a lot.
what character level are you? or which level is best to be, cause there is drop penalty
Can someone tell me how he is getting Rage in order to use Berserk?
Thanks in advance.
From the Tincture. The specific one he uses gives a 12% chance to generate rage on hit of a rare or unique enemy.
what is "PROG" you keep mentioning, i dont understang. Please help
Which attack skills do you use? In PoB I see you have caustic arrow (of poison) and lightning arrow?
@@Tuga12 Ty
Hey!
Can tornado shot do this? Or I will just one shot the spire?
Thanks
About how many maps would you recommend running/setting up initially to likely guarantee profit?
4 because thats how many sextant uses you get. there really isnt any gamble to running those maps. you arent hoping for a big card drop or certain uniques or anything.
@@snaxximan5737there definitely is a gamble aspect. if you don't get purple juice + one other and get 1.5k+ per, you're screwed most likely.
goratha one question how you deal trying to no kill the spire asap with the poison and the hh?
Just have to be really careful and aware of when it's about to spawn, generally I can hit it once it has juice and it'll spawn the waves. I tend to run off screen as well so MA doesn't kill it.
can i start this build as a new player within 10 divines ? or u just need to have more than what i have to atleast get some reasonable gear. 😅😅
I know it's not the point of the video but i'm really confused about your build, how does having a tribrid bow help you for CA? Don't most just use widowhail and a big quiver for most of their scaling damage? I ran something similar with widowhail and a better quiver than yours and was spreadsheeting 400k? I'm probably missing something but just curious if anyone can clear that up for me
Other than that, great video. :)
I've just realised what I *think* is the answer, thought i'd leave it here incase anyone else was struggling with the same question. I didn't realise you had the tincture that allows all damage to poison which makes perfect sense for having ele stacked bow for this build then.
Great video, well done.
Hi . Im newbie i have a question . How u can keep divination distilate uptime ? I follow your build and when i hit monster with leech hp/mana.This one keep stop duration cannot uptime 100% like u
A question. In pob, in the calculations section on the physical damage received, with the headhunter I get the conversion of the taste flask, but with the micro distell belt it does not. I wanted to see how much the 30% increase is with the belt. How odd. Do you know what it is due to?
Not sure about your specific issue but you can go into config in PoB and add custom modifiers. Example: "30% increased ..."
just make sure it is worded the same way it WOULD be worded on the gear
Thanks, I know what happened to me. She didn't put the bottle in its place. Fifth place in POB is the lowest and I didn't know it, although it was pretty obvious. Kroximatuz solved it for me@@lenelie3051
HEllo, do you have an atlas tree with 7th gate ( for abyss ) ? Since i'm SSF i can't really use the scarabas i want haha
This tree has 7th gate though?
Hi! Quick question: How do you get your life to rebound so fast? Leech?
Storm Rain of conduit + LGOH
@@Goratha I see. Thanks for reply!
Hey, is the unique conversion mechanic from altars or atlas passives?
How necessary is delirium for this strategy? My build struggles a bit with it and significantly slows my clear.
Probably ok to drop it.
I honestly thought you had fake comments on your video... Everyone is like "I drop my first mirror". And then I gave it a go... Wow. Just wow!❤
Guess I'm a lot less lucky than others in this comment section. I've run about 20 T7 cemeteries, all with +2 proj - cost me all the alch and scours I had :p.
Was wearing one near-perfect Ventor's and had div flask on permanently.
I never got the holy trinity of wisps, at most 2-3k of 2 different colors. (it feels very bad when you're not rich, invest this much only to run around into dead wispless ends btw)
Had about 4-5 raw divine drops.
I had 0 valuable cards drop, unless Goratha's loot filter filters those out which I don't think it does (I eyeballed it quickly in FilterBlade).
You constantly have to be careful not to die from the invulnerable spire monsters moving at mach 10 and you have to make sure not to kill the spire. It doesn't seem to make much of a difference for me, whether I kill those extra 5-6 rares that spawn. To be fair, this tactic does kind of make the mapping more involved and fun in some ways.
Your experience may vary here, I had 0 difficulty in killing juiced up mobs, but that's at the cost of having to be scared of phys damage.
I would put the starting budget at about 30-40 div with the current scarab and sextant pricing, because if you have RNG/wisps like me, you'll run out of money loooong before you see any returns on investment. I'm assuming you're aiming for div/winged scarab explosions and HH/MB drops to get returns, which I obviously haven't seen in any substantial way.
tbh I'm very close to giving up on the league right now, because it gets tedious to have to farm back all that invested currency in other ways, to try and have another go at this.
Was fun to try and join the MF train though.
Thanks for the strat Goratha & Tuna and I wish anyone who read this far all the MB drops in the world.
Hi, you need just tri-ele bow in this build or with poison damage included?
damage isnt the problem running T7s 🤷♂️
you mention projectiles , do you NEED a bow to do this ? or can i run this method on my flicker strike aswell? do i NEEED to be able to shoot projectiles ???
your projectiles dont matter. its the monster projectiles.
@@snaxximan5737 dope ty, so i can run this in standard then aswell?
@@aidenobyrne79 you are buffing the spires with this leagues current mechanic, which gives it extra projectiles, so you won't get as much loot as this. :)
What was your budget for this? Would love to give mf a start but most builds I see say I would need 100 div to get started.
Hey Goratha. For your manaforged set up, have you tried just more caustic arrow of poison?
Yep! It's probably the best single target option for the build.
Note, this is (I think) the first league in which spending real money can impact gameplay.
It is a bit convoluted and probably not worth it but: Private leagues can be created with "mobs have +2 proj", this would actually impact of much stuff you drop.
Would it be worth it? Probably not given that you're playing groupfound at most, however it's crazy to think that it's possible.
It works but its not worth it, every other content is painful with 3proj and you would have to roll your own sextants
From your POB link, how do you generate rage?
Somehow divination distillate can’t recover fast enough for me. I have to switch to a normal divine health flask to recover the life. Anything might be wrong? I have both the flask mastery (4% recovery) and master surgeon.
So i only need beyong sextants, reliq and abyss scarabs? I wonder how expensive they are currently in sc trade.
So I gotta sacrifice a vectors gamble ring will it damage my drops badly if I were to drop one? Cause my build gets bricked if I don’t though idk if i should just try crafting a ring with mama regen/life per sec and increase in rarity/quantity
Should I get a spire from every abyss in a map or only one?
Every abyss, if you aren't you either failed it or don't have gilded abyss scarab.
Hey. Im very interested in making this build but dont know how to start. Do you have a suggestion as to how to start?
There's a full series on the build if you want to check out how I played it early on.
@@Goratha i have some divines but have no clue to get to where you are lol
@@Goratha i got like a 100 divines now. Lets see if I can make the switch
You may have answered this already somewhere, but why do you have the Eldritch Gateways allocated? Seems unnecessary. Am I missing something? Thanks!
NVM, I see it's for the Seventh Gate! Got it!
What kind of budget would be needed to get this rolling? Currently sat on about 100 div plus gear from an old build I could liquidate.